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To anyone complaining about generalizations: 99% of people in the world are exactly the same in behavior. The only difference between men and women is what we need in a relationship (that goes for romantic, family, and friends).
That means 99% of women behave exactly the same in similar situations. You like to think you're different. You like to say it, too. But reality says that while you're ridiculing some other chick for being a slut, you'd be exactly the same if you were in her shoes
So 99% of men behave the same exactly the same?
@AJC997 As far as basic behaviors, and given the same situation, yes.
Well I don’t agree with that at all. People are individuals
@AJC997 when you've seen the exact same behavioral patterns over and over, influenced by exactly the same conditions, you start to understand that we're all just individual iterations of the same thing. Part of the human condition is desperately wanting to believe you're special and different.
Some people are confident and some aren't. The difference is ability. If you know you can do something, you're confident at it, if not, you're not. Period.
We all get excited about something new and then lose interest after a while. We all have trouble finishing what we started. We all tend to overanalyze even when we know the best way is to dive in.
We're really all the same. The difference is in the conditions under which our minds operate. Why does improving looks through surgery make people more confident? Why does getting stronger make them more brave? Because the conditions changed.
Did you know that winning causes a boost in testosterone levels, which assists in future victories? And losing causes a decrease in T along with a rise in cortisol, which makes you weaker. That's the reason for getting back on the horse.
We're all basically the same. Change the conditions, and you get a very predictable change in behavior
The bar is much higher for us and it will ALWAYS be much higher for us. It’s unfair but it’s how it’s going to be.
I think men need means to SAFELY ventilate their frustrations. They can talk to close friends, counselors, unload on GAG, etc. But we can’t complain publicly without losing face.
That’s why you see so many so called “jaded” guys on GaG. Women And white knights quickly dismiss them “incels” but they are really just average guys who are getting screwed by the system.
It certainly is ok to be frustrated with women. Relationships are frustrating
The problem is that men really do not understand women, and with that comes frustration, anger, all the things you describe. When you're really clear about what drives them, their motivations and thought processes, then instead of taking exception you understand and accept. You learn how to deal with their proclivities, you don't stoop to their level.
Also kind of true. But sometimes you have to go through those frustrations before you learn about how women think and their motives. That's one of the places that taught me.
And all women are like that? Stoop to their level? Why would you even want to be with them then?
I mean if you think like that
@AJC997 - Yes, all women are like that. There's even an acro for it - AWALT
Which gets instant reply from the the snowflakes and their white-knghts that NAWALT - or 'not all women are like that'. Except they are. Just varying degrees. ;)
Oh, and if you really want to learn about what women are and what makes them tick without having one rip your head off and shit down your neck-hole, go here and read:
www.therationalmale.com
@Browneye57
Ok so if all women are like that? They have a problem- or to men they have a problem. What is the benefit of being with them? Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth
@Browneye57
Tomassi was divorced wasn’t he? And lost all his assets?
@AJC997 - For many it is. But go back to my first post. With understanding comes acceptance.
A tiger has stripes - you don't dislike a tiger because of it's stripes. Well, maybe you do, but likely it has nothing to do with the stripes. It just is what it is.
When you get a more clear picture of why women act and do what they do, you become more accepting of them. The weird shit is just seen as well, 'that is what women do'.
Have you ever studied MBTI? Personality typing? One of the greatest benefits is coming to an understanding of personality types and what drives their actions. When you gain that knowledge you gain acceptance for those action. In other words, they're acting or being that way because of what and who they are. Instead of being offended, you chalk it up to them just being what they are. You accept it.
People in general, but particularly men, need to develop a sense of 'outcome independence'. This is where you come to an understanding that no matter what happens you'll be fine. This is the ultimate freedom to say and do as you see fit, without worrying about what will happen. You dump the burden of concern for what someone else will think, or what will happen, you just know you'll be fine.
Next you learn that you can't change or fix people. It's not your job, and it's not your responsibility. Let them be in charge of their own life, just concentrate on your own. We've got way too many busy bodies that think they know better than you do how to live your life. They just don't. And neither do you.
Back in the hippy days it was called 'live and let live'.
@AJC997 - I wasn't aware of Tomassi losing everything. Got any links?
Women are humans with free will to act how they want just like men, so yeah it’s ok to get upset if they act bad. If all women have a hive mind of behavior then... they’re all the same
Well I thought he lost everything, that’s why he seems like a cynic, but maybe he just got divorced
@AJC997 - I don't perceive him to be any of that - cynical, divorced, or lost anything. So I was looking for some evidence to back up your claims.
Women are solipsistic and hypergamic by nature. It's just the way they are. They are wired that way to ensure the success of their specie, their offspring. However it can produce some really horrible actions that appear completely opposite to the interests of any man. It's a very basic difference between the genders.
@Browneye57
Fuck well I guess I am looking for a fairy- a compassionate, affectionate woman who bakes desserts and you listen to each other’s problems at the end of the day
@AJC997 - If that's what you want then make it a criteria. TELL them that's what you want. Hold to that. There are PLENTY that will, will worship the ground you walk on.
But you have to be WORTHY. What are you doing to make yourself worthy of a woman doing that for you?
My girl does, she cooks and loves on me, spoils be rotten. She never got the nag-gene. ;)
@Browneye57
Yeah it would be long term where we worship each other until the end of our lives
@AJC997 - Exactly. Until you meet her, you have a lot of work to do, so get busy. You have some growing up years to do, enjoy them, work hard, follow your goals and aspirations, make it happen, become a huge success. Low and behold, when you do this you gain the confidence you need, and some really pretty and sweet girl will come along and want to follow you, partner up with you, and share your life. You have to be WORTH it.
@Browneye57
I will try my damndest to make myself worth it to a sweet and caring girl. But one last thing is I do NOT want her to be better looking than me.
@AJC997 - Women are ALWAyS better looking that men. Why they're called the 'fairer sex'. ;)
@Browneye57
That’s just shameful for the guy
It great mytake. I asked my current boyfriend and he also has bad experience with some woman that did cheated. by the way PDA part of the austim spectrum. I been through jerks and cheater.
What is pda?
I need to be treated like a little girl from a Disney movie. Cause my boyfriend knows that YEEAAA, I'm smart and strong but I'm so clumsy and dumb. He thinks its funny how a person that is strong and smart is ALSO an idiot and a baby crying all the time. Lol I need a man in my life and I WILL NEVER pretend that I can do it all my own. He helps. I don't want to be like a guy. It's hard. Boo. 👎😌 I like feeling girly.
I'm not frustrated, I'm on the verge of death of here.
The people who I am supposed to love are destroying me.
Would you like to talk about it?
@AJC997 Thank you for your concern, I appreciate it.
It's just that I can't take it anymore.
Tonight I'll tell them that either they let me breathe or I'll move out.
My family has an empty apartment slightly afar, I'll use that.
I'm getting physically sick there.
Who are the people you’re supposed to love? Your spouse you mean?
@AJC997 My girlfriend and my sister.
What is the problem you have wit them? If you don’t mind me asking
@AJC997 They are possessive, jealous, want to micromanage my life - my girlfriend is a jealous and a violent mood swinger, my sister is a sociopathic control freak.
And you think them being women is a contributor to their behavior? If you’re frustrated with their actions and you’ve already told them your feelings and they haven’t listened, then I would say back out of the relationships
@AJC997 I don't know if being women contributes to it, they are just being awful.
Well then do yourself a favor and get away man, if they’re harmful to your health then you should cut contact, if you haven’t tried reasoning with them already
@AJC997 Tonight there'll be the showdown, let's see how it will go.
Let us know because we care!
I think it is OK to go through the grieving process. No man or woman can tell you how to feel. Also, not all women are nice Finally, if you know yourself and you know something is off then take the steps to correct it whether it's through therapy or simply talking to people who care. Tc
Many women on here intentionally troll men. I had a woman block me simply for telling her that video game playing is not her controlling and being in control like tennis. It involves machine and no moving around.
Because g@g has stupid censorship rules, I can‘t mention her name but she is fat and likes cats and in her late 30s.
Well, obviously it’s okay to be frustrated with people who have hurt you, regardless of their gender. That’s basic human nature.
Let's be honest most men will not be good with women, women won't find most men attractive. What those men should do? Well they have to focus on their life and goals and pay some sex for relief.
If you are shorter than 170 cm, If you don't have masculine traits at all, If you don't have muscular body little bit (i don't say too much i'm saying normal geneticaly fit body), if you don't have minimum average face then you will have problem with women.
Yeah sorry dude lots of men who don’t fit the stereotype of macho get with women and have relationships. If you genuinely believe that, I don’t know what to tell you because I see all types of people in relationships when I go outside
@AJC997 because life is diverse and complex thing BUT it doesn't change the majority. What women desire on a man is obvious. They like height, they like strenght, they like masculinity, they like status, they like good looks. Now not majority can have all of these. People have little bit this little bit that so if you add that up you will get the conclusion most men are not that attractive for women. I would say 30 to 35 % of men are on attractive.
Side.
What you see those people and sometimes because there are a lot of desirable women and lesser attractive men, women date with average guys out of necessity.
Women don’t date with average guys out of necessity. Average women date average men. People fall in love with someone. It’s nothing special. I can tel you it’s just normal people going about in everyday relationships. This has been happening for the last century now.
@AJC997 I agree but if you give the chance average women they would prefer attractive guy.
I am above average in looks
@AJC997 then u shouldn't worry 😀
I'm not very above average though, just slightly
@AJC997 doesn't matter. What i'm saying if you have minimum standarts you have a chance but if you are below the standarts you will have a problem.
What is minimum standards supposed to mean?
@AJC997 Ok roughly 30% of men are too short or too skinny or too chubby or too ugly those are bottom of male hierarchy on women's eyes.
Roughly 40% of men are too nice, timid guys. they don't have any masculine traits so those are average folks and women don't prefer them much. These are what people call the beta males.
Then there are top 30%. These folks are the ones women compete for. They have above average height, they are more masculine (confident, tough, strong persona) and they are strong looking enough (shouldn't have to be muscular can have naturally wide shoulders, fit body etc. ) and they have mid or above average face.
I exclude the things like money or status but if you look at based on physical aspects this is how women brain works.
So you’re telling me that 70% of guys are without dates. 70 fucking percent? And this was all throughout our history? How is this not a national crisis? Did most women just die alone? Were they all just unhappy? I understand some women have high standards but ALL women are like this? either you just read too much lookism or you’re not being serious. You and I both are in the bottom 30% then.
I don’t believe this because I see unattractive guys with kids and wives all the time. If this were actually true the human race would die out quick because there aren’t enough guys in the top category
I bet you’re just a troll because I see this kind of information spread all the time online probably to make guys feel hopeless
Even the fat ugly women only go after the top 30%? I don’t believe that, there would be something said about this if it were true
So basically 70% of men are dateless and single and will die alone and 70% of women are also single and will die alone because there’s only 30% of men that are worthy
@AJC997 No i forgot the mention roughly 60% women go for top guys and other ones go for mid section but they compete for quality ones. Overweight ugly girls don't have much chance in 50% of men.
You can't change this. It's like law. If you are not in top 30% you should go for women that are 4 - 5 number on looks.
@Mamamialetmego
I’m a 5-6 in looks, 6 in looks I’d say. But like a 3 on height and 4 on body. Probably with everything combined I’m a 3 out of 10, bottom 20th percentile.
@AJC997 Don't lose hope work on your confidence. Being confident alone will make you above average. Have some masculine traits. And go for women that are same or below your height. Also learn to be comfortable with women then you can get some.
@Mamamialetmego
You can’t fucking take it back now. No confidence won’t do shit. Being comfortable doesn’t do shit according to you. I’m undateable to most women because of my height. Better to just destroy my hope now instead of hanging onto some false belief that I could actually get a date
@AJC997 of you go for women that are below your height you have a chance man
@Mamamialetmego
How do you explain that earlier this year a taller girl was interested in me?
Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing but if someone's a prick it's ok to get frustrated at them regardless of gender.
Sorry if u get frustrated at me for not reading the whole thing lol
The teenagers never read the whole thing lol. I didn't expect differently.
I have a short attention span lmao
We are told to treat women as equals... therefore we SHOULD be treating them like adults and not delicate children. We should be ok to criticize them, call out their shit, and be frustrated with them. If they are "strong and independent" as they claim, then they will be able to handle some negative things without resorting to some snowflake meltdown.
It's completely fine to be frustrated with the opposite sex because I tend to not want to talk to guys sometimes
It's hard to not be frustrated at the opposite sex in general, I see where you are coming from especially considering how indifferent men feel about women nowadays, I liked the take
What do you want me to say?
No, it absolutely is okay to be frustrated.
Women simply aren't adults and demand that not being an adult is some kind of "right" that the world owes to them because they are women.
Stop focusing on them then
@AJC997, who says I do? An entertaining diversion is not a focus.
Women are adults, men are adults, stop generalizing
@AJC997, awww, how CUTE, a butthurt little snowflake is trying to be a generic white knight! Bad news, Shirley, it won't get you laid.
Ok sure take it how you will. Clearly your bitterness has fucked up your life. Have fun going mgtow friend
@AJC997, mgtow? Sorry, you inbred moron, but I'm not mgtow. I just understand the fundamental limitations of a woman. You can't expect a dog not to be a dog, a crow not to be a crow, or a woman not to be a woman.
And a man will be a man
@AJC997, and the insane conflict that ensues is the entire reason to keep going!
The ride IS the goal, and it's a hell of a ride.
The saying “can’t live with them can’t live without them” didn’t just magically come out of thin air 😂
Same with men. My friend has this shoe saying about men she tells me sometimes. I wish I could remember it but is something you need a shoe (men) but...
I can't remember the second part.
You do realize men say and do these things too, its not just women
You do realize you just echoed one of the parts I noted in the Take, right? "or will acknowledge it but only if they can point out how "men are the same way,""
If I had a boyfriend and I was mad about something or moody I don't know, well... I think that if he just fucked me I would feel so much better, and probably not be mad anymore. A good rough fuck👏🏻
Haha nice 😄