Yes, I can and have been friends with women. Women seem to be better at being friends with a man then the other way around. I think that I must fall in love too easily.
I had a male friend and got mad at me when he found out I was seeing someone. Then told me he wanted to date me thought it was strange since he told me a million times, he would never be interested dating me only want to be friends.
Another anecdotes. I'm just saying. But i doubt that is the case for the rest of your male friends. you're only cherry-picking on that one "friend" you're talking about
@Curmudgeon Like really is that all their or your time is for? You must have all the time to spy on her confirm she's spying on you or not. Oh the irony. Maybe speak for yourself tho
And commitment doesn't mean you can't have friends. I'm saying "you can't have friends" instead of saying "you can't have friends of opposite sex" is because the gender isn't always what's after when making friends. If you ask me why I have female friends, i can just say it's for thesame reason why i have male friends. Now does that make me bisexual? Saying yes would be a no true scotsman fallacy.
Why does everything have to be fuck buddies according to you? Maybe just going to control yourself and you go crazy whenever you see women. That's not the case for everyone else though so you can speak for yourself. You want me to prove that guys are not only looking for fuck buddies? Ok. If you look around you don't see them doing that most of the time so i can freely use absences an evidence
" Ok. If you look around you don't see them doing that most of the time so i can freely use absences an evidence"
"absence" is the keyword buddy. you dont know what these so called "friends" do on the down low and often times their actions will scream it loud enough, but of course is gonna look/sound subtle to naive folks like you that why bother arguing this with you
I'm aware friends with benefits exist but why do you are shown that that is the case for every male and female friendship? I mean sure there is always going to be any of them fantasizing about their female friends but does it mean there really going to have sex or even if they do, do you even know who? If you want to claim over time their accent will speaks louder than words then tell me how long doesn't even take? I don't think anyone has the time to spy on anyone just to make that confirmation unless you yourself are a low life. So if you're so ignorant you don't have to argue
" I don't think anyone has the time to spy on anyone just to make that confirmation unless you yourself are a low life."
if you're s/o has 1 or multiple guy friends it won't make you a "low life" if you keep your guard up, I think I rather a low life over a cuckold any day.
"If you want to claim over time their accent will speaks louder than words then tell me how long doesn't even take?
this all depends on how smart you are and how easy you pick up on cues. so far judging by your whole post and mentality you sound extremely naïve and you probably won't find out till the last moment.
" I mean sure there is always going to be any of them fantasizing about their female friends but does it mean there really going to have sex or even if they do, do you even know who?"
no kidding, for example could it be a coincidence that almost all the women I tried to just be friends with online have all ended up sending me naked pics of themselves months later? or could it be a coincidence that those who I tried to just be friends with me in person all ended up cuddling with me when we were alone just watching a movie together?
"I'm aware friends with benefits exist but why do you are shown that that is the case for every male and female friendship? "
because as I mentioned above this is what my experiences along with all the other male's experiences have dictate. no woman will just be friends with you without at least wanting to fuck or become intimate with you sooner or later. hell I even had a few of these so called just friends chicks in the past who even went as far as getting jealous whenever I would find an actual girlfriend
Maybe you would keep your guard up because you yourself cannot be friends with a girl but however not everyone can relate to you. Just like how you say only one guy keeps your guard up, unfortunately not everyone is insecure. Also i'm not even saying that will never happen i know there are cases that it will happen that she might cheat but that's not always the case for all. Unlike you i am not being one-sided here.
You really like to call anyone not you're just because you don't agree with them but you know i can also call you insecure just because i don't agree with you. That's why you are so presumptuous in your junk to your own conclusion so quick. So this is basically like you are presume in anyone to be guilty until proven innocent. Otherwise they would be naive for presuming them to be innocent until proven guilty.
Sorry to break it to you but you're giving an anecdotes because i can also say i am also been friends with women and then never sent me nude pics also because i never asked them. In the end it's just anecdotes for you have your own experience and i have my own and i can always use other experiences as a counter argument to your one-sided claims. I also used that sister example. Just because she is a girl it means you're going to stop being her sister because you get turned on by her? But really incest is not so common actually. You would be thinking it's rare to get turned on by your sister, but guess what other guys also feel about the other friends? You may just be talking about that specific kind of friend that guys cannot be friends with but that's not really the case for the rest of his female friends to you just like to generalize that all of his friends are like that.
". I also used that sister example. Just because she is a girl it means you're going to stop being her sister because you get turned on by her?"
ok buddy, I dont think you should really be turned on let alone ACT ON the sexual attractions you feel for those who have the same DNA as you.
"Sorry to break it to you but you're giving an anecdotes because i can also say i am also been friends with women and then never sent me nude pics also because i never asked them."
or maybe they didn't sent you naked pictures or show you there intimate side because they were never attracted you to begin with. but you know what they say; when you are not a priority you are just an OPTION. so I wouldn't be surprised if those women ghosted on you less than a year later or never spoke to you again after they found an actual boyfriend.
" So this is basically like you are presume in anyone to be guilty until proven innocent. Otherwise they would be naive for presuming them to be innocent until proven guilty."
yeah buddy, hopefully your friends and family will call you a CUCKOLD loser ones you choose that "innocent until proven guilty" method of your. me I live by that quote "where there is smoke there is fire"
"Maybe you would keep your guard up because you yourself cannot be friends with a girl but however not everyone can relate to you. "
logically speaking, only those who dont mind being cuckolds will never relate to me
Oh you want to talk about siblings having the same dna when that's how everybody actually spread in the first place. And if you want to talk about evolution because they had no other options before, i can also talk about how guys evolved to not get sexually attracted to all girls.
Or maybe not because there is really no way of telling because realisticaly, you can never read anyone's mind. Ok speak about priorities, then when i prioritize my work, does that mean games are next my options? Really what can i gain from living my work for my hobbies? The way you are thinking of people in their social connection is as if your objectifying them that they are just options. That is a strawman argument if i ever heard one.
But they never did unfortunately for you because they are not narrow minded unlike you. If i have to take your quote where there is smoke there is fire literally then what about dry ice smoke? So how would really mean not everything is always that case. You're not even being specific about the smoke. If you want to be specific about fire smoke then i can be specific about guys who are actually a cuckold.
And logically speaking, just like your no true scotsman fallacy, only insecure a narrow minded people like you will never relate to this. And by the way you think i am the only guy who disagrees with you so yes if you want to talk about experiences and i can also use to those guys who agrees with me and their experiences an example
I always walked more with girls, but to be honest, at least from their part there's always attraction. But one can chose not to do anything about it or keep it at flirting level.
But jokes aside, it's hard to find female friends and a girlfriend that play well with each other. Suddenly they are assuming even their friends want to pork you, much more yours. Which is why it's a good idea to have lesbian friends.
The sexuality here doesn't exactly matter because there will always be girls you still can't be attracted with even if you're so close. I even used that sibling example. Also not being attracted to certain women doesn't make you any less of a heterosexual because you're also not attracted to guys.
West, not USA. Yeah, I know nowdays "being straight doesn't minimize your lesbianism" lol! Yeah, nowdays "lesbians" are a mess.
Now, you hang around with terf lesbians and spend the whole day saying "I told you so." Though, the lesbian friends I maintained from the feminist tragedy were all non-feminist, my only problem with them is that they still chase feminist assholes. Well, except family...
You think i meant that one but ok let's go with that one. But I was trying to say is that mental illness is much more of an epidemic in the west which is why people tend to be more insecure and anti social making them less open minded about male and females being friends.
Then if you like to assume then I can say, no wonder why most women don't have friends because most of them are BI meaning they can't be friends with anyone
And you obviously can't speak for yourself. You're the kind of person who becomes a simp for befriending a girl. But that's not the case for other guys.
If you wanna simp, more power to you. I'm not here to tell you that simping is good or bad. Merely, that it exists and it exists in vast quantities. All you need to do to prove that men and women can't be friends is ask any woman to call any man on her friends list and ask him if he wants to hook up that very night. She'll have a success ratio of greater than 95%.
Except i'm not talking about simping here but you. If you have to bring it up, that's why im here to say speak for yourself and I don't mean anything bad either. If you say that's what women would say if I ask her, that's just an anecdote. Because i can easily do the same thing saying I did asked women and only a few of them said men likes to hook up. But still that's just an anecdote and you haven't met most men and women in the world.
I don't need to meet most men and most women. Most people are similar enough in the ways that count. And this is one of them. Men and women can't be just friends. Women keep men around as back up plans and many men are willing to live with that arrangement, and they'll jump at any chance to hook up or become the main squeeze.
Then no one needs to believe that notion of yours saying they're automatically simps for befriending the opposite gender. Just saying saying so doesn't automatically make you truthful. "'m talking about true friendship not the kind of "friendship" like "waiting for her to agree to date him". But really those guys are just assumed to be gays so that no true Scotsman fallacy just gives it that illusion that makes it look like straight men can't be just friends with women. Even tho there had be lots of men claiming it's true that they truly are friends, they just get doubted and just assumed most of the time even without any real proof. If men have to prove they're just friends, they can always use absence as an evidence. Something you can't see."
It's because you assume that all women we are actually friends with are those we want to fuck that's why you just like to call it friendzone. So how about if i ask you how can bisexual have friends?
Just because you're think so, what does not how to do with anything? We are still attracted to any gender despite the "mental illness" causing it but why are they still friends?
notwoke… I wouldn’t waste time talking to a young man whom have not had a very very serious romantic relationship… and thinking it’s okay to be her best “gay friend” while that girls is dating another dude… come crying to him when she has issues… Young kids … hope they learn … some may not leanr and happy being girls friend zone… because of low self worth and think they are her hero…
@midnightmoon05 Or that's just your silly little excuse just to run away for not having any real point. Also for the record, I'm not gay and she's not even crying to me when she has problems but i'd still help her out IF she asks for help. Ok i'll just cut ties with her and for a silly reason, it's because she's a girl like nothing else like it's her fault. I guess that's how you deal with people like what how shallow you are. So yeah you go "not waste your time" and go back to your safe space and let the grown ups talk.
Also it would be an ass move if I don't talk to her as if I don't know her just because she's a girl. I guess you're that kind of person which is so your era.
Young and innocent…. it's the perfect world to have the cake and eat it. I can share my number with you… call me when you have a very very serious gf… of 2-3 yrs… I am assuming you are not able to get a real girlfriend? I wish I am wrong.
I have been on gag for a long time… met a few gaggers and talk to some… still talk to them often… I am an open book… As a woman… I am being honest with you… You have no value in any girl who wants to be serious with you… You are not gay… and you want a gf… By handing out with another girl who has a bf… Her boyfriend sees guy as her gay BFF or whatever She tells her bf… she is not interested in you and that you are her “sister”… Get yourself out of that spot… Good luck
I would love to hear your story at that time.
Good luck looking for a woman who will respect you.
@midnightmoon05 Oh puhlese. You don't know and you're already assuming no woman would ever respect me. Why does friendship always have to involve giving numbers, taking them on a vacation, hugs and kisses or etc. Really I guess that's what friendship is according to you. So you don't have male friends for that reason but you probably have female friends who you cuddle with, or any of those relationship stuff you're talking about. If that's the case for you, I would assume you're a lesbian or bi. I treat my female friends just like how i treat my male friends. I guess you're just living under a rock not knowing how socializing works.
@midnightmoon05 I don't care if you've been in gag for a long time. Even if you're Einstein, you should know better. But in the end, that's just an anecdote.
"You have no value in any girl who wants to be serious with you…" <-- how do you even know who i'm really friends with? That's a hasty conclusion right there. Did I say she's the only female friend with a boyfriend I have? Did I even say I'm treating her like how her boyfriend treat her? You see, i never said any of those yet you already assume i'm trying to take them. We're still friends in face book but when was the last time we chatted? Do you even know? What if I told you it was like a year ago when she asked for some advice her boyfriend can't figure out. But after that, did we bang? Maybe in your case. How sad.
If you feel so bad about it, is it even affecting me? Yes? Maybe in your delusions. Again in reality, you're no where near where I live to gather all info about me so yes keep dreaming.
Also because of how you view me, you'd also be that women who won't respect anyone just because they have a friend of their opposite sex. Well I don't care, because you seem to be that girl or person who just don't respect anyone's life anyways.
@midnightmoon05 Another thing. You don't even respect yourself. What happened to your "I don't wanna waste my time" excuse because for whatever reason you feel old and tired to debate or whatever? But here you are making a whole "poetry" anyways. You sure you know what you're saying?
@midnightmoon05 Like I care? That's still an anecdote. I also gave you one so how come you ignored it as well?
I'm gonna rephrase everything here. "How about no because you have nothing to do with my life and all you’re doing is just making hasty assumptions. You also assume I lost respect of my manhood but did I say I wanna smash her because I found her attractive? Really why must every girls need to be attracted by me to respect my manhood? The reason why I’m not getting a girlfriend yet is because my business is a priority and I can get a serious girlfriend which is a girl who im really attracted to not like my female friend who has a boyfriend who isn’t even my type.
I’m not even interested about your life and what you’re giving is just an anecdote. I can also say I know people who are over 40 who also has friends with the opposite gender. They had been loyal to their wives and husbands as well and to top it off, they’re older than you. So what does me being younger than you have to do with anything when 40 year old morons like you exist? That’s pretty much every boomer’s go to argument as an excuse to losing creditability. Whether you buy it or not, it’s just an anecdote after all.
So in short, your notion is no men and women have a "good" friendship (which you just like to misconstrue as platonic friendship) otherwise they might catch feelings for each other. Then that would also mean no men and men or women and women have a "good" friendship otherwise they might just be gays or lesbians. So in conclusion, good friendships don’t exist then because of all the assumptions people make. So how about this, can bisexuals have friends?"
Facebook friends? How often do you truly spend time with them in real life?
Just so you know… I was in college between 18-22… I played those guy friends like they were my sister.
Again… listen to a woman… how we see guys.
You don’t know anything about how women think… I have a job and a family, and my partner who we will get married in the next few months…I come here from time to time to kill time… and see so many lost souls in here daily … thinking they have true “friends” here.
I call , talk to these propel… I meet them in real life…
I am not interested in debates. You can live the life choose.
I have greater responsibilities to raise my kids and my job.
Last word… don’t let females play you.
If you wish to talk in person… I am open. Let me know your story in the next 6 months… that you have a girlfriend. to care and love you. Hug you hold you, there for you… and you to her.
Every time there's a reunion we meet. And the last time was 2 years ago but she still actively commenting on my post and i do the same and again i am not the only one she is a good friend with and vice versa so we're not the only ones being kinda active with each other.
No i don't listen to morons i listen to people think. If you expect me to listen to you, how come you're not even listening to me? Like what i said those are anecdotes and i already know people who has way better life than you. I don't care about your anecdotes and those are still logical fallacies.
If you have greater responsibilities like having kids then you can go ahead worry about them making their lives miserable with your own little delusions. So why are you still trying to convince me when you already know i'm not buying it because i have also proven a point with youve been dodging all alone?
@midnightmoon05 Seems to me you just don't really read anything but continue to repeat your delusions.
As I said. "The reason why I’m not getting a girlfriend yet is because my business is a priority and I can get a serious girlfriend which is a girl who im really attracted to not like my female friend who has a boyfriend who isn’t even my type."
When we want what we want, we can do it. I don’t really care if you have a girlfriend or if you are being call best bestie by other girls… you live your life and learn the life experience you need. I am here to answer a question to tell you don’t waste time with having girls around who can use you. I have a full job, a family, a serious partner for over 5 years. and also runs a successful business for over 14 years. if you are truly such a catch…let me know after you get a gf… we can talk then. And no… no time to read long stories… I’ll follow you… I’ll be here for a long time to check things out from time to time… 2 yrs… let see how it goes.
@midnightmoon05 But where did I say I'm taking her on dinners, giving her money, making me her emotional punching bag or whatever before you accuse me of being led on? If you have a full time job then you should know better. But in the end I still do care because I don't know who the heck you are to be making hasty assumptions about me. Can you prove it? You had all the time to tell me what evidence you have yet you chose to go full anecdotes based on your story. That's not how claims work
When you have a gf… we can talk… At this point … you are still a child. Grow up a bit more when you have to deal with a real woman in a romantic relationship. Me got things to do…bye…
Like what i said i don't need to talk to you when i already have better influencers in my life instead of listening to someone like you who can't speak for themselves and can't stop interfering with people's lives.
Again with that "you're a child to your argument is invalid" arguments. Really for a 40+ year old you should know better. But after all morons like you can come in any age.
So if you want to give me that advice, how about if i advise you to actually grow up and act your age? If you have more things to do then you have no point being here. You just give something that i can easily debunk which is why no you're using that excuse to "actually have something to do" when you're just trying to run away because you're losing your credibility. You already said you wouldn't waste your time but this is the second time. Are you sure you know what you're saying?
I come here to kill time… you live here… jump when I respond… go out… see the world… meet real people… online life can only work for those who have no life… bye
Lol that is the third time you said goodbye and i'm still going to predict your going to come back just out of desperation. I mean it's not my fault your life sucks that you don't know time management if you accuse me of having no life being here. So do i being here to kill time but i'm not looking for excuses like you do using life just to run away when you know you can just come back if you have spare time.
I have lots of female friends and I'm a very straight white guy. I have a very narrowly defined taste in women and if they fit that definition I likely would not be friends with them. Or it would be hard
That doesn't really explain how someone with a girlfriend is friend with another girl for the same reason why he is also friend with another guy. They are unattractive to you yes but you cannot say no one can find them attractive.
Because you don't have to expect it from all guys.
"But even if you talk about most guys having that 1 specific female friend he can't be friends with, it doesn't mean it's the same feelings for the rest of his female friends where there are more than 1 of them so those female friends they don't have feelings on outweighs the female friend they can't be friends with so it turns out it's not so common as you think. So if they're talking about that kind of girl, that may also be not the same for other girls. So in an interview, they may just be talking about one girl as a example, people can easily generalize that all of his friends are like that as it gives it that illusion.
And one more thing. All heterosexual women have at least 1 or more crushes on a male friend as well but it doesn't mean it's the same for the rest. So that's not only a man thing. It's a human thing."
No, it's not. We will never be friends, we will never be equal. YOU destroyed the social contract between men and women. YOU did. FOH with that bullshit.
Fuck you and society. I'm declaring war. I see shit for what they are so you're wrong where I'm living under a rock, b*tch made rigga. You're just as much a problem as the fucking b*tches you worship, and you will be personally be dealt with in an appropriate manner when the time comes. I don't wear rainbow colored glasses like your simp ass does. Get real.
Then you can just leave. Really who's forcing you to live life like the other when you can just be staying at the wilds or at the zoo? And where exactly is the worshiping bitches part? You made that up. If you have a problem with the world, maybe it's just you. And no one forced you to live either. You're like 36-45? Lol your life is obsolite
Oh speak for yourself. We're not really someone who lives under a rock who only think of sex every time. You forgot youmans are social beings in the first place which is what made society workout but if you don't like that idea then go live in a jungle and fuck whatever girls you want. Good luck finding any
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Yes, I can and have been friends with women. Women seem to be better at being friends with a man then the other way around. I think that I must fall in love too easily.
I agree it’s possible but it’s very unlikely they will stay friends for long
Do you actually wait and see for you to confirm? Not sure how you have all the time for that for all people in the world
I had a male friend and got mad at me when he found out I was seeing someone. Then told me he wanted to date me thought it was strange since he told me a million times, he would never be interested dating me only want to be friends.
Another anecdotes. I'm just saying. But i doubt that is the case for the rest of your male friends. you're only cherry-picking on that one "friend" you're talking about
If she wants to be my orbiter, OK. I’m not orbiting her.
And what does that have to do with orbiting?
It has everything to do with it...
@Curmudgeon Like really is that all their or your time is for? You must have all the time to spy on her confirm she's spying on you or not. Oh the irony. Maybe speak for yourself tho
That's hogwash if you want to ever get and stayed married.
Marriage is toxic anyways and loving someone has nothing to do with marriage.
Commitment does and if you love you commit fully and legally. You live in never never land.
https://youtu.be/SOodSpimXVk
And commitment doesn't mean you can't have friends. I'm saying "you can't have friends" instead of saying "you can't have friends of opposite sex" is because the gender isn't always what's after when making friends. If you ask me why I have female friends, i can just say it's for thesame reason why i have male friends. Now does that make me bisexual? Saying yes would be a no true scotsman fallacy.
I disagree with a fury passion. unless you're talking about "fuck buddies" which that too can have its consequences
Why does everything have to be fuck buddies according to you? Maybe just going to control yourself and you go crazy whenever you see women. That's not the case for everyone else though so you can speak for yourself. You want me to prove that guys are not only looking for fuck buddies? Ok. If you look around you don't see them doing that most of the time so i can freely use absences an evidence
" Ok. If you look around you don't see them doing that most of the time so i can freely use absences an evidence"
"absence" is the keyword buddy. you dont know what these so called "friends" do on the down low and often times their actions will scream it loud enough, but of course is gonna look/sound subtle to naive folks like you that why bother arguing this with you
I'm aware friends with benefits exist but why do you are shown that that is the case for every male and female friendship? I mean sure there is always going to be any of them fantasizing about their female friends but does it mean there really going to have sex or even if they do, do you even know who? If you want to claim over time their accent will speaks louder than words then tell me how long doesn't even take? I don't think anyone has the time to spy on anyone just to make that confirmation unless you yourself are a low life. So if you're so ignorant you don't have to argue
" I don't think anyone has the time to spy on anyone just to make that confirmation unless you yourself are a low life."
if you're s/o has 1 or multiple guy friends it won't make you a "low life" if you keep your guard up, I think I rather a low life over a cuckold any day.
"If you want to claim over time their accent will speaks louder than words then tell me how long doesn't even take?
this all depends on how smart you are and how easy you pick up on cues. so far judging by your whole post and mentality you sound extremely naïve and you probably won't find out till the last moment.
" I mean sure there is always going to be any of them fantasizing about their female friends but does it mean there really going to have sex or even if they do, do you even know who?"
no kidding, for example could it be a coincidence that almost all the women I tried to just be friends with online have all ended up sending me naked pics of themselves months later? or could it be a coincidence that those who I tried to just be friends with me in person all ended up cuddling with me when we were alone just watching a movie together?
"I'm aware friends with benefits exist but why do you are shown that that is the case for every male and female friendship? "
because as I mentioned above this is what my experiences along with all the other male's experiences have dictate. no woman will just be friends with you without at least wanting to fuck or become intimate with you sooner or later. hell I even had a few of these so called just friends chicks in the past who even went as far as getting jealous whenever I would find an actual girlfriend
Maybe you would keep your guard up because you yourself cannot be friends with a girl but however not everyone can relate to you. Just like how you say only one guy keeps your guard up, unfortunately not everyone is insecure. Also i'm not even saying that will never happen i know there are cases that it will happen that she might cheat but that's not always the case for all. Unlike you i am not being one-sided here.
You really like to call anyone not you're just because you don't agree with them but you know i can also call you insecure just because i don't agree with you. That's why you are so presumptuous in your junk to your own conclusion so quick. So this is basically like you are presume in anyone to be guilty until proven innocent. Otherwise they would be naive for presuming them to be innocent until proven guilty.
Sorry to break it to you but you're giving an anecdotes because i can also say i am also been friends with women and then never sent me nude pics also because i never asked them. In the end it's just anecdotes for you have your own experience and i have my own and i can always use other experiences as a counter argument to your one-sided claims. I also used that sister example. Just because she is a girl it means you're going to stop being her sister because you get turned on by her? But really incest is not so common actually. You would be thinking it's rare to get turned on by your sister, but guess what other guys also feel about the other friends? You may just be talking about that specific kind of friend that guys cannot be friends with but that's not really the case for the rest of his female friends to you just like to generalize that all of his friends are like that.
". I also used that sister example. Just because she is a girl it means you're going to stop being her sister because you get turned on by her?"
ok buddy, I dont think you should really be turned on let alone ACT ON the sexual attractions you feel for those who have the same DNA as you.
"Sorry to break it to you but you're giving an anecdotes because i can also say i am also been friends with women and then never sent me nude pics also because i never asked them."
or maybe they didn't sent you naked pictures or show you there intimate side because they were never attracted you to begin with. but you know what they say; when you are not a priority you are just an OPTION. so I wouldn't be surprised if those women ghosted on you less than a year later or never spoke to you again after they found an actual boyfriend.
" So this is basically like you are presume in anyone to be guilty until proven innocent. Otherwise they would be naive for presuming them to be innocent until proven guilty."
yeah buddy, hopefully your friends and family will call you a CUCKOLD loser ones you choose that "innocent until proven guilty" method of your. me I live by that quote "where there is smoke there is fire"
"Maybe you would keep your guard up because you yourself cannot be friends with a girl but however not everyone can relate to you. "
logically speaking, only those who dont mind being cuckolds will never relate to me
Oh you want to talk about siblings having the same dna when that's how everybody actually spread in the first place. And if you want to talk about evolution because they had no other options before, i can also talk about how guys evolved to not get sexually attracted to all girls.
Or maybe not because there is really no way of telling because realisticaly, you can never read anyone's mind. Ok speak about priorities, then when i prioritize my work, does that mean games are next my options? Really what can i gain from living my work for my hobbies? The way you are thinking of people in their social connection is as if your objectifying them that they are just options. That is a strawman argument if i ever heard one.
But they never did unfortunately for you because they are not narrow minded unlike you. If i have to take your quote where there is smoke there is fire literally then what about dry ice smoke? So how would really mean not everything is always that case. You're not even being specific about the smoke. If you want to be specific about fire smoke then i can be specific about guys who are actually a cuckold.
And logically speaking, just like your no true scotsman fallacy, only insecure a narrow minded people like you will never relate to this. And by the way you think i am the only guy who disagrees with you so yes if you want to talk about experiences and i can also use to those guys who agrees with me and their experiences an example
I've actually been best friends with two boys for over six years and we're still close friends now
Indeed and most of the friends that I hanged out with are female
I always walked more with girls, but to be honest, at least from their part there's always attraction. But one can chose not to do anything about it or keep it at flirting level.
Your attraction is on certain girls. The rest of your female friend outweighs those certain girls you are attracted to
Sis before hoes? lol!
But jokes aside, it's hard to find female friends and a girlfriend that play well with each other.
Suddenly they are assuming even their friends want to pork you, much more yours.
Which is why it's a good idea to have lesbian friends.
The sexuality here doesn't exactly matter because there will always be girls you still can't be attracted with even if you're so close. I even used that sibling example. Also not being attracted to certain women doesn't make you any less of a heterosexual because you're also not attracted to guys.
Of course. But certainly helps more when it comes to partner jealousy.
Seriously, I had girlfriends losing their minds of chicks so deep in the bro-zone that it was almost a buddy cop movie.
Not sure if you're from USA or the west tho. Are you? Because I have news for you
West, not USA. Yeah, I know nowdays "being straight doesn't minimize your lesbianism" lol!
Yeah, nowdays "lesbians" are a mess.
Now, you hang around with terf lesbians and spend the whole day saying "I told you so."
Though, the lesbian friends I maintained from the feminist tragedy were all non-feminist, my only problem with them is that they still chase feminist assholes. Well, except family...
You think i meant that one but ok let's go with that one. But I was trying to say is that mental illness is much more of an epidemic in the west which is why people tend to be more insecure and anti social making them less open minded about male and females being friends.
Oh... I get it.
But well, that was true since I was young, don't know if it's much worst today.
I don't worry about what others say. Since I have been friends with women just fine
Of course it's easy, if you're not a degenerate porn addict of a man who takes care of himself decently.
Yes, there is no problem in a guy having female friends.
Men can easily be friends with women cuz most men are gay.
Then if you like to assume then I can say, no wonder why most women don't have friends because most of them are BI meaning they can't be friends with anyone
You need yo ass curb stomped.
@Mister_Hangry You need to be leashed. I see, you're that same person who just went anonymous here recently. Good job revealing yourself.
Yes, there a lot of simps in the world. Also in the news, water is wet. Zebra has stripes. Sun rises in the east.
Incase you don't realize, this my take don't mean SIMPs. You're comparing your assumptions to something obvious that we can just see.
Yes, I obviously see simps.
And you obviously can't speak for yourself. You're the kind of person who becomes a simp for befriending a girl. But that's not the case for other guys.
If you wanna simp, more power to you. I'm not here to tell you that simping is good or bad. Merely, that it exists and it exists in vast quantities. All you need to do to prove that men and women can't be friends is ask any woman to call any man on her friends list and ask him if he wants to hook up that very night. She'll have a success ratio of greater than 95%.
Except i'm not talking about simping here but you. If you have to bring it up, that's why im here to say speak for yourself and I don't mean anything bad either. If you say that's what women would say if I ask her, that's just an anecdote. Because i can easily do the same thing saying I did asked women and only a few of them said men likes to hook up. But still that's just an anecdote and you haven't met most men and women in the world.
I don't need to meet most men and most women. Most people are similar enough in the ways that count. And this is one of them. Men and women can't be just friends. Women keep men around as back up plans and many men are willing to live with that arrangement, and they'll jump at any chance to hook up or become the main squeeze.
Then no one needs to believe that notion of yours saying they're automatically simps for befriending the opposite gender. Just saying saying so doesn't automatically make you truthful. "'m talking about true friendship not the kind of "friendship" like "waiting for her to agree to date him". But really those guys are just assumed to be gays so that no true Scotsman fallacy just gives it that illusion that makes it look like straight men can't be just friends with women. Even tho there had be lots of men claiming it's true that they truly are friends, they just get doubted and just assumed most of the time even without any real proof. If men have to prove they're just friends, they can always use absence as an evidence. Something you can't see."
men dont have platonic friends, we have women we haven't fucked YET> Somewhere we took a wrong turn and ended up in the "friendzone"
It's because you assume that all women we are actually friends with are those we want to fuck that's why you just like to call it friendzone. So how about if i ask you how can bisexual have friends?
bisexuals have a mental defect
Just because you're think so, what does not how to do with anything? We are still attracted to any gender despite the "mental illness" causing it but why are they still friends?
notwoke… I wouldn’t waste time talking to a young man whom have not had a very very serious romantic relationship… and thinking it’s okay to be her best “gay friend” while that girls is dating another dude… come crying to him when she has issues…
Young kids … hope they learn … some may not leanr and happy being girls friend zone… because of low self worth and think they are her hero…
@midnightmoon05 Or that's just your silly little excuse just to run away for not having any real point. Also for the record, I'm not gay and she's not even crying to me when she has problems but i'd still help her out IF she asks for help. Ok i'll just cut ties with her and for a silly reason, it's because she's a girl like nothing else like it's her fault. I guess that's how you deal with people like what how shallow you are. So yeah you go "not waste your time" and go back to your safe space and let the grown ups talk.
Also it would be an ass move if I don't talk to her as if I don't know her just because she's a girl. I guess you're that kind of person which is so your era.
Young and innocent….
it's the perfect world to have the cake and eat it.
I can share my number with you… call me when you have a very very serious gf… of 2-3 yrs…
I am assuming you are not able to get a real girlfriend?
I wish I am wrong.
I have been on gag for a long time… met a few gaggers and talk to some… still talk to them often… I am an open book…
As a woman… I am being honest with you…
You have no value in any girl who wants to be serious with you…
You are not gay… and you want a gf…
By handing out with another girl who has a bf…
Her boyfriend sees guy as her gay BFF or whatever
She tells her bf… she is not interested in you and that you are her “sister”…
Get yourself out of that spot…
Good luck
I would love to hear your story at that time.
Good luck looking for a woman who will respect you.
@midnightmoon05 Oh puhlese. You don't know and you're already assuming no woman would ever respect me. Why does friendship always have to involve giving numbers, taking them on a vacation, hugs and kisses or etc. Really I guess that's what friendship is according to you. So you don't have male friends for that reason but you probably have female friends who you cuddle with, or any of those relationship stuff you're talking about. If that's the case for you, I would assume you're a lesbian or bi. I treat my female friends just like how i treat my male friends. I guess you're just living under a rock not knowing how socializing works.
@midnightmoon05 I don't care if you've been in gag for a long time. Even if you're Einstein, you should know better. But in the end, that's just an anecdote.
"You have no value in any girl who wants to be serious with you…" <-- how do you even know who i'm really friends with? That's a hasty conclusion right there. Did I say she's the only female friend with a boyfriend I have? Did I even say I'm treating her like how her boyfriend treat her? You see, i never said any of those yet you already assume i'm trying to take them. We're still friends in face book but when was the last time we chatted? Do you even know? What if I told you it was like a year ago when she asked for some advice her boyfriend can't figure out. But after that, did we bang? Maybe in your case. How sad.
If you feel so bad about it, is it even affecting me? Yes? Maybe in your delusions. Again in reality, you're no where near where I live to gather all info about me so yes keep dreaming.
Also because of how you view me, you'd also be that women who won't respect anyone just because they have a friend of their opposite sex. Well I don't care, because you seem to be that girl or person who just don't respect anyone's life anyways.
@midnightmoon05 Another thing. You don't even respect yourself. What happened to your "I don't wanna waste my time" excuse because for whatever reason you feel old and tired to debate or whatever? But here you are making a whole "poetry" anyways. You sure you know what you're saying?
Did you miss that part I was married? Have kids. Am in a serious committed romantic relationship?
Did you ever have a girlfriend? How long?
@midnightmoon05 Like I care? That's still an anecdote. I also gave you one so how come you ignored it as well?
I'm gonna rephrase everything here. "How about no because you have nothing to do with my life and all you’re doing is just making hasty assumptions. You also assume I lost respect of my manhood but did I say I wanna smash her because I found her attractive? Really why must every girls need to be attracted by me to respect my manhood? The reason why I’m not getting a girlfriend yet is because my business is a priority and I can get a serious girlfriend which is a girl who im really attracted to not like my female friend who has a boyfriend who isn’t even my type.
I’m not even interested about your life and what you’re giving is just an anecdote. I can also say I know people who are over 40 who also has friends with the opposite gender. They had been loyal to their wives and husbands as well and to top it off, they’re older than you. So what does me being younger than you have to do with anything when 40 year old morons like you exist? That’s pretty much every boomer’s go to argument as an excuse to losing creditability. Whether you buy it or not, it’s just an anecdote after all.
So in short, your notion is no men and women have a "good" friendship (which you just like to misconstrue as platonic friendship) otherwise they might catch feelings for each other. Then that would also mean no men and men or women and women have a "good" friendship otherwise they might just be gays or lesbians. So in conclusion, good friendships don’t exist then because of all the assumptions people make. So how about this, can bisexuals have friends?"
Facebook friends? How often do you truly spend time with them in real life?
Just so you know… I was in college between 18-22… I played those guy friends like they were my sister.
Again… listen to a woman… how we see guys.
You don’t know anything about how women think…
I have a job and a family, and my partner who we will get married in the next few months…I come here from time to time to kill time… and see so many lost souls in here daily … thinking they have true “friends” here.
I call , talk to these propel… I meet them in real life…
I am not interested in debates.
You can live the life choose.
I have greater responsibilities to raise my kids and my job.
Last word… don’t let females play you.
If you wish to talk in person… I am open.
Let me know your story in the next 6 months… that you have a girlfriend. to care and love you. Hug you hold you, there for you… and you to her.
Every time there's a reunion we meet. And the last time was 2 years ago but she still actively commenting on my post and i do the same and again i am not the only one she is a good friend with and vice versa so we're not the only ones being kinda active with each other.
No i don't listen to morons i listen to people think. If you expect me to listen to you, how come you're not even listening to me? Like what i said those are anecdotes and i already know people who has way better life than you. I don't care about your anecdotes and those are still logical fallacies.
If you have greater responsibilities like having kids then you can go ahead worry about them making their lives miserable with your own little delusions. So why are you still trying to convince me when you already know i'm not buying it because i have also proven a point with youve been dodging all alone?
*all along
Have you ever had a girlfriend?
@midnightmoon05 Seems to me you just don't really read anything but continue to repeat your delusions.
As I said. "The reason why I’m not getting a girlfriend yet is because my business is a priority and I can get a serious girlfriend which is a girl who im really attracted to not like my female friend who has a boyfriend who isn’t even my type."
When we want what we want, we can do it.
I don’t really care if you have a girlfriend or if you are being call best bestie by other girls… you live your life and learn the life experience you need.
I am here to answer a question to tell you don’t waste time with having girls around who can use you.
I have a full job, a family, a serious partner for over 5 years. and also runs a successful business for over 14 years.
if you are truly such a catch…let me know after you get a gf… we can talk then.
And no… no time to read long stories…
I’ll follow you… I’ll be here for a long time to check things out from time to time… 2 yrs… let see how it goes.
@midnightmoon05 But where did I say I'm taking her on dinners, giving her money, making me her emotional punching bag or whatever before you accuse me of being led on? If you have a full time job then you should know better. But in the end I still do care because I don't know who the heck you are to be making hasty assumptions about me. Can you prove it? You had all the time to tell me what evidence you have yet you chose to go full anecdotes based on your story. That's not how claims work
When you have a gf… we can talk…
At this point … you are still a child.
Grow up a bit more when you have to deal with a real woman in a romantic relationship.
Me got things to do…bye…
Like what i said i don't need to talk to you when i already have better influencers in my life instead of listening to someone like you who can't speak for themselves and can't stop interfering with people's lives.
Again with that "you're a child to your argument is invalid" arguments. Really for a 40+ year old you should know better. But after all morons like you can come in any age.
So if you want to give me that advice, how about if i advise you to actually grow up and act your age? If you have more things to do then you have no point being here. You just give something that i can easily debunk which is why no you're using that excuse to "actually have something to do" when you're just trying to run away because you're losing your credibility. You already said you wouldn't waste your time but this is the second time. Are you sure you know what you're saying?
I come here to kill time… you live here… jump when I respond… go out… see the world… meet real people… online life can only work for those who have no life… bye
Lol that is the third time you said goodbye and i'm still going to predict your going to come back just out of desperation. I mean it's not my fault your life sucks that you don't know time management if you accuse me of having no life being here. So do i being here to kill time but i'm not looking for excuses like you do using life just to run away when you know you can just come back if you have spare time.
I have lots of female friends and I'm a very straight white guy. I have a very narrowly defined taste in women and if they fit that definition I likely would not be friends with them. Or it would be hard
A straight guy and a straight girl can be friends, but ONLY if one or both of them are ugly...
That doesn't really explain how someone with a girlfriend is friend with another girl for the same reason why he is also friend with another guy. They are unattractive to you yes but you cannot say no one can find them attractive.
Completely agree. I have women friends and we have a great time together.
This really needed to be said? Wow. Many people really seem to degrade or care only about themselves.
And who said you need to read it?
I mean you can be ignorant, Mr. DarkWinter. But really that's no one's problem if you can't speak for yourself.
You missed the point of my comment, didn't you?
Yeah and you're complaining about how "unnecessary" my mytake is.
I am in support of your article, you imbecile.
Well you could have said it better. While saying it is unecessary, which is why i imply you're ignorant about ignorant people about this.
That's fine, but in a realistic sense,... that's not something to be expected from every guy.
Because you don't have to expect it from all guys.
"But even if you talk about most guys having that 1 specific female friend he can't be friends with, it doesn't mean it's the same feelings for the rest of his female friends where there are more than 1 of them so those female friends they don't have feelings on outweighs the female friend they can't be friends with so it turns out it's not so common as you think. So if they're talking about that kind of girl, that may also be not the same for other girls. So in an interview, they may just be talking about one girl as a example, people can easily generalize that all of his friends are like that as it gives it that illusion.
And one more thing. All heterosexual women have at least 1 or more crushes on a male friend as well but it doesn't mean it's the same for the rest. So that's not only a man thing. It's a human thing."
No, it's not. We will never be friends, we will never be equal. YOU destroyed the social contract between men and women. YOU did. FOH with that bullshit.
F*ck you.
You speak for yourself. And it's no one's fault you live under a rock. I live in a society
Fuck you and society. I'm declaring war. I see shit for what they are so you're wrong where I'm living under a rock, b*tch made rigga. You're just as much a problem as the fucking b*tches you worship, and you will be personally be dealt with in an appropriate manner when the time comes. I don't wear rainbow colored glasses like your simp ass does. Get real.
Then you can just leave. Really who's forcing you to live life like the other when you can just be staying at the wilds or at the zoo? And where exactly is the worshiping bitches part? You made that up. If you have a problem with the world, maybe it's just you. And no one forced you to live either. You're like 36-45? Lol your life is obsolite
*Obsolete
Funny that you censored bitch, but not fuck or shit...
Oh speak for yourself. We're not really someone who lives under a rock who only think of sex every time. You forgot youmans are social beings in the first place which is what made society workout but if you don't like that idea then go live in a jungle and fuck whatever girls you want. Good luck finding any