Why do so many older men with nothing going for them think they’re automatically desirable to young women?

[Anonymous]

I often hear, “She’s used up any nobody wants an older woman. Older men are very desirable though!” When I really don’t see that being the case, other than when grooming high school girls or freshly graduated teenagers. The only young twenty women I know who want older men only want those older men if they’re wealthy… which in case they get called gold diggers.

Somehow these older men think it’s the age that makes them more desirable and don’t process that it’s the money; then they’ll get upset because they’re old without much money… thus being less desirable than young men for many reasons. Young men also like an older woman with money just the same. But the thing I notice is older men (and sometimes women) go younger and younger to try to seduce a teenage minor because her peers are hardly to compete with financially and they’re easier to manipulate.

I understand why young women are more appealing, it’s the same reason why men my age are more physically appealing. But it doesn’t mean older men and women aren’t sexy in a different kind of way… but I wouldn’t date a 40yo broke man while I would date a 21yo broke man. A man may date an emotionally immature 21yo but he wouldn’t date an emotionally immature 40yo woman.

it’s not even usually successful older men making this point, because they’re not desperate to prove themselves to anyone. They know they’re desirable and can have a desirable woman. It’s emotionally immature poor older men who want to say, “older women are yucky but older men are automatically desirable to teenagers” the only time that’s even true is when it’s a teenager whose already been groomed and damaged… so leave her alone please 😂

it’s just gross that they don’t realize how gross they are. I’m fine with a 21yo dating a 40yo… I just don’t understand why these older men who have little going for them and a beer belly think they’re somehow more desirable than a woman their age. A young woman doesn’t want an older man to have kids with unless he’s wealthy. She’s trading off kids having their father for longer, and a good protector, as well as a higher risk of Down syndrome… that’s not young and virile dudes! Young men and young women are more desirable and older men and women are only going to be desirable if they have something else to offer that makes people overlook their negative.

[alina177]

Well they creep me out. So many other younger women I know. May be a very rare few actually want them if not for money

[Cheaterssuck]

I'm 52 and they creep me out too. I don't know why they think a younger woman wants them, especially the ugly old men. It's always been a huge NO for me.

[myTake Owner]

@Cheaterssuck yeah older women barely even want them 😭

[strateguy632]

to ali, content rare", do u remember prenups? its not for money. read book "Jennifer fever" many young girls want the old guy. despite the author lady "jealous style" last page, the contents told the stories.

[strateguy632]

@Cheaterssuck to che, content 52", that means you are SAME age as the older guys... n they "still creepy"?

[BlackJeep]

It's true, older women do not want us older guys. And it's a complete mystery to us when younger women slide into our DMs. But it happens all the time. I used to suspect other motives so I would tell them I'm newly divorced and just lost half my money. I'm in a long term age gap relationship now but I dated women a lot younger because it was easy to find a date if I wanted to go out. But I still don't understand why anyone would want to date me

[Ptrmbrs88]

Says the thot who is showing her tits in her profile pic. As the saying goes, "If you're not selling, then don't advertise"!

[Guy13]

Yep, I agree. Not all people are the Same but all people believe they are special.

[Cheaterssuck]

Honestly, I don't believe all people think they're special, maybe all men do but as a woman, I don't think I'm special at all.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@Cheaterssuck What would you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?

[strateguy632]

to che, content special", except those with low self esteem syndrome, be "somebody important so be yourself."

[BoopBoopBeep]

@Cheaterssuck Then you are the exception. Stop 30 woman on the street and ask them to rate themselves you'll get 29 "10s" and a good woman that's already married.

[veganrogue]

You mean the beer mug I got for my 50th that says, 'You're a special snowflake' is a just a lie?" Seriously, so many people are downright delusional.

About 7 years ago, when I was 45, I met a 22 year old medical student in a Facebook group where I was an admin. She initiated contact with me. I do look a younger than my age, but it's obvious I'm no longer a young buck. In any case, we were together for about 3 years, at that time, she wanted kids, I didn't so we went our separate ways. I used to work with a bunch of young 20 somethings at that time. I heard a conversation that went like this: Alice said, "Debbie what did you do this weekend?" Debbie replied, "I went on a date with a guy I met on Tinder, he's a bit older but I had a great time." Alice asked, "What is a 'bit' older?" Debbie replied, "46". Alice gasped loudly and said, "That is so disgusting! A guy that's twice your age! Eewww!" Then all the other girls in the office joined in and almost started a riot. I bit my lip as my difference in age with my ex was even more extreme. I thought they were going to bring out the pitchforks and chase me around Times Square! These same girls who thought I may have been in my 30's, and thought I was chill, flirted mercilessly with me and I even dated a couple of them after I parted ways with my ex. If they only knew that I was their father's age after we slept together, they would have had a conniption.

On one other instance, I met a girl on the train to my dad's funeral. Seriously. She was an 18 year old au-pair from Germany. I knew she was young but not teenage young. I was in my late 30's at the time and we went out for a bite. Our conversation was effortless, we laughed and for a minute, life was colorful and vibrant and not wrapped in funeral shrouds. It felt like we we've know each other all our lives. When she found out my age she freaked out! She literally got up from the table and left. Obviously we had chemistry, but it came down to perception of age.

I do think I'm more desirable at my age as a man, I'm in shape, I have a good career, I'm comfortable in my own skin, I know exactly who I am. I'm the most confident I've ever been and have a hell of lot more life experience to guide me down my path. I don't however think I'm automatically desirable to a specific age group of women. Honestly, I don't think in terms of, "I'm this age and she's this age". Obviously if their profile lists an age preference like, "NO GUYS OVER 30", I'm not the type of asshole to waste my time with someone who obviously isn't into older guys. Perhaps I'm delusional too, but I get way more interest from younger girls than women my age on the dating sites I'm on. I never lie to them, use recent pictures with my correct age, but in person, if nobody asks my age, I don't see the need to volunteer it. We are all adults. I see what you mean by these creepy as fuck older guys that have "nothing going for them". If they're a loser, might as well date a younger hotter loser...

Now what if Brad Pitt (59) and George Clooney (62) (or whatever your Hollywood heartthrob du jour would be) were poor, but just as charismatic. Would you date them? Old and poor but hottish?

I think that for a lot of the older guys, the way they feel doesn't match the way they look. They may still feel strong and virile but obviously the years have done their damage resulting in a dad bod and bad jokes. Their inner dialog is saying, "Bro, you got this, go talk to that hottie over there" and unfortunately you young ladies have to deal with the reality of the situation. It doesn't help with online dating and social media. Everybody is 'anonymous' online. People do and say shit they never would have the balls to say to your face in person. Pre-internet (I know I'm old) there weren't any guys (that I can recall) pulling out their cocks on the street and showing it to the first pretty girl they see. But that's exactly what they do online! As a result the creeps just got creepier. And it's also easier access. To "talk" to as many women as you can swipe in 5 minutes would take 5 months in person and a lot of drink/dinner money. So not only is the creepiness itself amplified, but the volume of said creepiness increases because it's too easy to be an asshole online.

Until the end of time there will always be men in the autumn and winter of their lives chasing after the beautiful spring and summer flowers. No matter how old or how much of a 'loser' the guy may be, there's always remnants of the hard-bodied young lion that could pull any girl he chose when he was your age. Not an excuse for their behavior, just a theory on what makes them tick.

[Deliciouscookies]

I completely understand where you're coming from. As you said, it's often about the money or power dynamic rather than any genuine attraction. It's unfortunate that some men fail to see this and instead believe that they are inherently more attractive even when being older.

While I believe that age can certainly be attractive in certain ways, such as the confidence and life experience that comes with it, and ss you mentioned, emotional maturity, financial stability, and other positive qualities are all important as well.

And of course, it's never okay for older men to pursue minors or engage in inappropriate behavior with young women who may be vulnerable or easily manipulated. It's important for everyone to be respectful and mindful of the power dynamics at play in any relationship or interaction.

Overall, I think it's important for people of all ages to recognize their own value and attractiveness beyond just their age or any other superficial factors. And it's important to approach relationships with respect and consideration for the other person's feelings and well-being.

[DarkLegacy]

It is perfectly ok.

[strateguy632]

to del, content money, whether wedding or not we can exclude money either way, if for money the prenup document would dter gold diggers, if not wed, then not share bank account, he chooses what to give not her stealing ftom his wallet.

[Levin]

Well, I just think men engage in inappropriate behaviour in general. I've had *men* grope me in nightclubs. Lucky not to get a fist to the face. They're just pieces of shit. So it's not just you or girls, love.

I don't see why there needs to be a gender and an age war. People need to take care of their emotional and physical health more. Relationships are based on more than age - emotional connection, maturity, and you know, not Darwinistic and materialistic orientations all the time. I don't care if a girl is not super-hot, but there needs to be some form of a connection.

Age is often times meaningless. In my late teens I was a mess. I had no confidence. I was getting a protruding belly. Now I have a six pack. I can confidently say I can run rings around the 20yo men in my work. They're generally a mess. Completely out of shape, too. Spend their lives on their phone. The same applies to a lot of women in their 20s. Ego is completely out of control and many of them are at least 14kg overweight. Or they post annoying messages on this website asking for a rate every day which drives me insane. A retard is a retard irrespective of age.

[HighValue]

Older good men that go for young women are often stronger, more intelligent, more wise, make better life decisions, know what they want in life, etc. More than most young men. So in fact the high quality older men 30+ not 60+ age, often have multiple better qualities than many young men.

Where as the majority of women have bring much less to a relationship than a man does and the older she is, she loses her ability to have healthy kids SIGNIFICANTLY sooner than men do based on actual biology/science and statistics.

Plus, statistics prove that men are better at raising happy, healthy, emotionally stable kids than women. 89% of all convicted criminals in the USA are from single mother households, where as single father households don't have that problem.

Also, more women in the USA have an immoral promiscuous past which makes them undesirable to ALL ages for a good family oriented man.

[strateguy632]

to high, your name is appropriate for your detailed and very well presented reply. it is detailed enuf to be a good mytake here, if you wanted to copy it.

[Sleeper07]

I agree with you typically these old dudes who are ugly as fuck be talking shit saying women are 304s and shit like that.

Now there are attractive and more successful older men, but it's wrong to say men age like fine wine. This concept only applies to men who take good care of themselves.

Typically this is predominant in the Red Pill community where figures like Rollo Tomassi who doesn't get girls, and other old ass dudes who lost their looks a long time ago, spread bullshit to desperate men, and then desperate men soak it all like a sponge.

[Pegases]

I think its based on what each gender tends to prioritize when dating. Men tend to prioritize physical attraction, which tends to fade as women ages, and women tend to prioritize a mans resources and status, which tends to increase as a man ages. So both younger women, and older men do often tend to be attracted to each other for this reason. I think it is also the reason why it was socially acceptable for women to marry much older men centuries, and even decades ago. This has changed a bit though, because only recently have we as a society understood the danger in such dynamics. That being said, I think often, men use a woman's age to make her feel less than, in the same way that women use a mans penis size or lack of money and/resources to make him feel less than. Both genders have truly trash people amongst them.

[strateguy632]

the answer is called "jennifer fever" that means not only the old man preferd the young lady but the lady sometimes is attracted to the old man and since jennifer fever is real and occurs therefore "older men" think we at my age are desirable to younger women. furthermore despite our gray hair silver hair and wrinkles... the "ev olutionary factor" is on our side meaning the women is attracted just due to her subconcious nature to "extend her species" which means she will be attracted to older men who are still child able in contrast to women that are near meno pause nature of a man is to prefer younger so that is why older men are more attractive than older women.

[strateguy632]

about the accusation in asker, "gold digger" dont forget PRENUPS, think of jeff dunham n in the past charlie chaplin etc.

[andreasderjuengere]

I don't quite see the difference between a young non-achiever and an older non-achiever.

Aren't BOTH made of loser material?

Same as a youngster has the right to try getting laid, there's nothing wrong if someone older does the same.

''You'' are free to not join in and pick someone better (guys like me, as one example :D ). There's nothing more to interpret into this, I think.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Even at my age, I have men who are over 60 hitting on me and its GROSS. Go find Grandma and call it a day already. Men always want younger women because they think it makes them somehow superior if they land one. The truth is it doesn't. It makes them shallow, immature and unrealistic.

[Gingerbread_GB]

Ok. First I want to say not all old men are creeps. From a young woman's perspective maybe it seems that way because you hear more stories about creepy old men hitting on young girls. What you don't hear about are normal old men just living their normal lives.

Now as to why these old men think they are attractive to young girls is also pretty simple: They are stupid. They KNOW they are not attractive to young adults, so they go younger, thinking younger girls are more gullible.

[Trapgoose]

I have no illusions of being attractive to anyone. I work the blood out of my hands, pay bills, try to enjoy my art, books and video games. My photography endeavors keep me fit. But at the end of the day I know none of this will be enough.

Despite people being surprised that I look 10 years younger than age, it doesn't mean anything. Actually, it makes them less inclined to talk to me, despite all the fun conversations I would share with them. It hate saying it to myself, but I'm glad I accepted my ugliness, whether it's on the inside or out, I don't have the energy for to care anymore. Looking for love is depressing

[aaron210419]

These man are delusional, and it does seem to becoming more common. It's just like the women who believe they deserve to be with a millionaire simply because they are pretty.

[myTake Owner]

Except it’s more like ugly women believing that 💀 it’s not even successful men who are the ones preaching this!

[aaron210419]

Yes very true, a large majority of women believe they are a 10. Personally I think rating people is extremely shallow but so is thinking you deserve something simply because you're pretty. Attitude plays a huge factor in whether I find someone attractive.

[myTake Owner]

Broke old men and ugly entitled women… a match made in heaven

[aaron210419]

Good luck telling them that

[TooHot2Care]

Bro , you just HAD to use that image from teeth using the scene that made me want to not only vomit but kill the guy in the screen, but I cooled off knowing EXACTLY what is about to happen to this little fucker.

Alright, so it's very simple: Brains gotta cope.

Just like women who are overweight and have bad attitudes tell themselves "men are too weak to handle them."

[rachel776]

i like that actress

[Filthy_Immigrant]

well let's be honest, a lot of young bimbos love to flock to these losers because they they believe these same slimeballs have money and are easy to manipulate the fuck out of.

but I'm not sure if these same slimeballs noticed it that they are getting used or probably dont care cause they just want to feel victorious having a young bimbo next to them

[Anonymous]

Your problem is not so much that there are all these older men thinking they’re automatically desirable to young women. It's that older women are clearly viewed as less desirable. It's a well established fact that women are most desirable before about 28. It's also a well established fact that is not the case for men. That's because of thousands of years of evolution that has programmed humans to find women most desirable during their prime reproductive years, and to find men most desirable during the years they are most capable of providing resources and protecting their families. That's why older men are desirable well beyond age 30 while women are not.

[myTake Owner]

Most young women want a man around their age, unless she has a lot of baggage and daddy issues or if she’s a gold digger.

[Opinion Owner]

Most younger women eventually end up with men similar in age, but that is mostly because of social pressures. When younger, many women are promiscuous with older men before choosing a mate similar in age to settle down with, but it's a compromise.

The research unquestionably shows that women's desirability declines steadily from age 20 onward, whereas men's desirability increases into their 40s.

[myTake Owner]

It’s because most women want a man around their age; maybe up to five or six years older LOL stop living in your delusions

[ElGato31]

Men's desirability does not increase into their 40s. Most men older than 38 look used and depressed too, they are most likely divorced, have a few kids, probably ED too. NO THANKS.
As the OP says, those who have money, their money, is desirable for women who want money without having to work for it. But again, only their money is desirable.
Most men who spend their time on YT watching these red pill channels have their ego comforted by this. "Women don't want me, but they hit the wall at 25, and I will be desirable at 40" Hehehehe. They will wake up soon or blame women of being picky etc.

[myTake Owner]

@ElGato31 damn girl wanna start a podcast? 💀

[ElGato31]

Nah, I'm just sharing my wisdom here hehehe
Although, do you want a collab? :D

[myTake Owner]

@ElGato31 I was just joking that we should lol great minds and all that

[ElGato31]

I was joking too. 🙂 But yeah, a good take 👍 I argued about this many times.
I still remember when I was 18-20, men older than 25 either seemed ancient or invisible to me. Why would I want to date someone who could be my father? But guys never believe this.
It's probably an ego thing.

[myTake Owner]

@ElGato31 if anything a 40yo woman has more luck getting a man than a 40yo man… just less are looking 🤷‍♀️ Cuz more of them are married

[Red-Blaze]

I think some that say it just got to the "I am too old to give a f***" age
they just willing to shoot even if chance is low becouse nothing to lose

But honestly dont think I ever heard someone say that

[Siri137]

Yes, all of this is true, but they're not chasing me (thankfully) so I've got nothing to complain about :)

[KrakenAttackin]

The reality is once women are done riding the carousel they want a man who can provide resources. Older men tend to be the more established and wealthier demographic.

[findacure4wokeness]

I've met some women that liked broke guys 30 years older then them. I don't know what they had in common really. I've had old ladies hit on me when I was in my early 20s and it creeped me out.

[acidburnone]

no idea lady, but for some reason so many young women always trying to get my dad and my mom just smacking them away