Do you consider men who play BETA PROVIDER game on women as scumbags?

[Anonymous]

So it's known that some women like to switch over and find a different type a guy attractive later down in life. For example in college/high school she may have been attracted to the hot, popular guy who likes to party and have fun but coming down to her late 20's and beyond want a stable, less fun guy, who has a job, and willing to commit and possibly have children in future.

Now some men who may have a chip on their shoulder for women not wanting to be with them when they were younger, prettier and more fun but are coming to them now that they have a nice career, house, and place have decided to use the beta provider game.

The beta provider game is where men either actively or passively use women's hopes and dreams of finding a reliable guy to settle down to their advantage. These women can range from girls wanting to settle down and marry now but the guy she truly wants to be with isn't ready yet so she goes for you instead to single mothers looking for a meal ticket.

The beta provider game works by going out on dates with these women and giving the illusion that you will be a good provider. Dropping hints in casual conversation that indicate that you are willing to commit, you have nice paying job, and you like kids or willing to have kids. Stuff likes this in subtle doses. The beta provider game also tends to use the nice guy persona more so that the cocky asshole that younger women gravitate towards.

The beta game is a lot slower and usually takes several dates before he can bed these women. However, once he beds these women he quickly loses their number and move onto the next.

So in summary the beta provider game is like danging a carrot of being a good provider over women's faces and using it to get sex from them. Once you get what you want you discard them and move onto the next.

Yes

No

[Curmudgeon]

"The beta provider game is where men either actively or passively use women's hopes and dreams of finding a reliable guy to settle down to their advantage. These women can range from girls wanting to settle down and marry now but the guy she truly wants to be with isn't ready yet so she goes for you instead, to single mothers looking for a meal ticket."

So "catch as catch can" applies to women as well as men.

[Curmudgeon]

And could it be that immature and foolish women grow up and wise up, just like men do?

While it is wonderful to see former snooty bitches get their comeuppance with age, really, that only applies to the women I actually have known since those formative years.

Any random woman off the street? I wouldn't be so presumptive. I have no idea what she went through until I actually learn about her.

[Bandit74]

It's a scummy thing to do but I can understand how they ended up that way.

[Curmudgeon]

Why is it scummy on the man's part? Like the lady, he is looking for the better deal.

[Bandit74]

@Curmudgeon
I was just referring to the leading them on part. I dont think its nice to make someone believe you want something serious with them when you really just want to fuck them and then move on yo someone else.

[fauchelevent]

They shouldn't lead someone on, that's rude and disrespectful and just a waste of time but their not wanting a serious relationship isn't bad.

[Summeroflove]

No and they aren’t all “betas” the truth of the matter is that shitty women will use good men. A lot of men are unfortunately taught to put up with shitty behavior, to stay in one sided relationships, and if a relationship goes wrong it’s your fault.

I will say a lot of men do get used because they buy into this mindset. Providing got your family isn’t bad at all but a woman who doesn’t appreciate that doesn’t deserve to have a decent man. But some women will fake it until later on.

These ungreatdul deadbeat whores will NEVER and I mean EVER be happy even if they marry into money. They will never have enough. You will never do enough for them. You’re not working hard enough but when you’re working 70 plus hours a week they're saying you’re neglecting them.

If you find a woman who genuinely loves you she won’t cheat. But if you find someone marrying not for love she’s going to cheat on you all along the way. A lot of times with bums and losers…. Until she finds someone she thinks is a step up from you. She will leave or if something happens to you and you’re not able to provide anymore. She will leave. Despite her wedding vows.

That or she’s very careful for a while when cheating. But after a while she’s brazen and gets caught. Many cheaters and abusers and users. In their narcissistic minds believe if you’re not smart enough to figure it out you deserve it.

[fuqthegovt]

To each their own. I don't date in the traditional sense anymore since Backpage is cheaper overall (even if they are $200 an hr). I used to do the beta thing (weird name for it) in my 20's and got the "player" reputation and a lot of drama following me that I got tired of (not that hard to do in a smallish town of 5-10,000 after doing that for over a decade). Now instead of beta provider I prefer "independent providers".

[FromAshes]

There are many assumptions being made here, its like a negative ad against guys that are kind and have stable income.

"He has money and is respectful = beta provider! Here's why these beta providers are scumbags!"

[Jager66]

Nah, anyway a man can get laid without being a criminal is 100% legit and considering the Risk/Reward ratio of relationships and dating for men this is probably one of the smarter ways of operating. Kinda shitty it's come to this in my opinion.

[Unit1]

No, not really.
It's payback time so to say. It's obvious, that gold diggers are getting involved in that.

[Marinepilot]

They are in my opinion because they gave their looks and sex when they were high value. Now that they're damaged and used goods, they expect a nice guy to rescue them and their kids. FUCK THAT SHIT !

[Anonymous]

It's time guys started using women's needs and desires to our own benefit like women do to us.

[PCNotForMe]

Yes, everybody knows Overwatch is where it's at

[frozenhorizon]

Some are some aren't.

[alaindiazaran1991]

No, it's just payback time

[Anonymous]

so sick of this alpha beta bullshit.

[Anonymous]

I think it's understandable actually

[Anonymous]

Women have always been considered scumbags.

[gagfrenzy]

they have a lot of respect actually lol

[Anonymous]

No, I completely understand why they do it.

[Anonymous]

It's no different then playing any other game

[Anonymous]

No those women deserve to be used and thrown away.

[Anonymous]

I say good for them.

[Opinion Owner]

Those women don't deserve genuinely good men.

[Anonymous]

nope