Why do 'car guys' hate Honda so much?

[BlackParade]

I don't understand the stigma against Honda. Why do people who claim they're 'car guys' hate on Hondas. A lot of people know nothing about Honda and just call the company shit. Do people not recall Ayrton Senna, the greatest racecar driver ever who drove a Honda and compete with McClarens and Ferraris? Do people not know Honda is one of the biggest companies in the world? I just want to know why you guys hate Honda.

[DJmattness]

it's not a direct hate at honda, they produce great commuter cars, but rather a hatred towards the ricers who have ruined Honda's reputation. It seems as though most often it's ricers who take hondas and do dumb shit to it that shouldn't be done to it. Also, ricer exhausts

[BlackParade]

They create great performance cars as well. NSX, civic, S2000?

[Redstang88]

Hondas are good cars, I don't think anyone would argue that. There just aren't fun.
They're a great plain-jane grocery getter, but that's all they are. Anything beyond that is pretty much a lipstick on a pig endeavour.

[BlackParade]

Civic type R (spoon), nsx, S2000?

[Redstang88]

I'll give you the S2000, but it's still a 4 banger.
And a Civic is a Civic, whatever the engine it's still fwd. And I believe the NSX is too?

[BlackParade]

So you don't really know much about Hondas 😂

[BlackParade]

Okay

[BlackParade]

What's wrong with a 4 cylinder engine? "not enough power"? 😂😂

[BlackParade]

And what's wrong with fwd? 😂😂

[Redstang88]

Yes, exactly.
And everything is wrong with fwd.

[BlackParade]

Like what? I see tons of people putting down amazing times on the nurb with civic. And in autocross

[Redstang88]

I don't do corners. 1/4 time is the only thing I give a damn about.
And fwd still isn't as good as rwd, if it was race cars would be using it.

[BlackParade]

There are race cars that use fwd 😂😂wow straight lines 😂😂

[Redstang88]

Name 1 race series that uses primirialy fwd.

[BlackParade]

There are a few 24 le mans cars that use fwd

[Redstang88]

I said primarily, not one off cars to draw media attention.

[BlackParade]

The point is fwd. I don't prefer.. But it doesn't mean the car is bad 😐

[Redstang88]

No it doesn't, it just means it doesn't work as well for going fast.

[Anonymous]

Strangely enough, I have heard the exact same opinion by an acquaintance of mine who really likes cars.