After coming on this site for a while now, I have noticed an increasing amount of males who are so far from the normal male way of thinking! Male feminists! Who would have thought? Anyway, It comes across to me that the only reason they do this, is to try and get female attention but this to me is totally pointless as any female I have ever known does not find this type of "man" attractive, what are your thoughts on "Soy Boys" in general and do you find them attractive?
I'm sure that there are many guys like this, but I also think that there are other reasons.
As you probably know men today have lower testosterone levels on average than men of previous generations. 1 in 4 men today have low testosterone. This is for many reasons - endocrine disrupting toxins in our environment, estrogenic foods especially in processed food, chemicals in the water especially for example from the female birth control pill, sedentary lifestyles. Soy is one of the most estrogenic foods that's found in most processed foods, as well as being the main protein source of vegetarians and vegans - thus the name "soy boy".
Testosterone affects both the body and the mind. Low testosterone is linked with many health issues, including depression and anxiety. Men with low testosterone also tend to be physically weaker since testosterone is what helps is to build muscle and strength.
These men I think as a result of low test start to think in a more feminine way. They become more emotional and sensitive, and they reject masculinity because they can't fit the standards of being strong whether physically, mentally or emotionally. They might even go further by claiming that men who are masculine are the weak ones, as I see one of the girls has tried to do. Pretty backwards if you think about it - wanting to be strong is weak, being ok with being weak is strong... Yeah right.
I think many of them just genuinely think this way, not just because they want to get women with it.
Lmao. The type of boys that men just want to put a skirt on them. The ones scared of everything masculine. I am guilty of being a alpha Male so sue me. It doesn't mean I don't know how to be nice and care about others just means for the most part I may not really care. I spent 20 years dragging people's asses out of dangers from burning houses to crushed tin cans of cars. The shit I have seen would make most of those pussies puke in a toilet for the rest of their lives. Would I do it again yep you bet your ass I would. Would I have joined the Military tried 4 times 3 before 9-11-01 and once afterwards Army, but ACL reconstruction surgeries are a immediate no go for the U. S. Military. Hell I have a advantage back then the only pain I feel is nerve damage.
I call them Soy Boys because that Fake to me. I have attracted to men who agree with feminism and Equality, but not feminist. Now the men on here that tend to go all Anti Man and Pro Woman those are So Boys to me because they are lying to score points with us women. I always give them Thumbs Down. It's like their getting a Cyber Laid, pretty sad!!! Plus Men, remember you shouldn't hate on your own kind!!! And I'm not saying you should be all Bros Before Hoes but when a guy is making a Jackass stmt put them straight, but don't side with us women on issues because you think it's what we want to hear or score points with us. Be the Real Deal...
I've seen very very few male feminists on here. Or "Soy Boys". But I do see a lot of men calling other men cucks, or white knights because they said something they don't agree with. I'll side with a Soy Boy over an emotional douchebag that likes to call himself an alpha male anytime.
well, i was hoping you'd understand what i meant but ok i'll elaborate more. I personally think that "masculine" guys aren't actually masculine. They're just trying to be masculine to fit into the society standards and are afraid to seem to weak and shut any "soy" boys down when they meet one. So i'd rather be with a "feminine" boy than with a guy who tries so hard to be tough bc that just looks depressing lmao
and i don't think "soy" boys are bad. I feel like girls can relate to them in a way, can be understanding when it comes to feelings and nice, for "masculines" i feel like some are try hards lol
Ah you see this is something a lot of girls dislike when guys say those kind of things. Boys who are "soft" can't help how they feel. They're not wrong for who they are and i really do blame the society and the parents raising men in a certain way and bring down others who seem different to them. Just let them be, i'm sure they've been through "you're so feminine man up" situation so many times and you don't need to remind them
I am just being serious, would you really want to be in a commited relationship with a man like that? If you do, then fine! In reality I see women wanting an old fashioned man who is traditional and knows how to protect his partner.
I don't know what it's like to be in a relationship so it wouldn't be fair to judge, but do you honestly think a woman would be okay if her partner shammed a "soft" guy?
Yes, from what I see - a lot of women go for that bad boy image where guys treat everyone like utter shit! that is not what I think guys should be like either but they definitely shouldn't be becoming feminists lol
Girls who go for the "bad boy image" live way too much in the twilight fantasy world. They wish to have a guy who's 'bad ass looking' and act like a dick towards the other people but ooooh so soft in the inside and they need to understand that this is the real world not some book fantasy. It hardly happens in the real world and don't get me wrong i hate feminists with every fiber of my being whether it's a woman or not, equal rights are fine but feminists are like fuckin snowflakes to me
I don't think never being in a fight, being non-athletic, and committing to the first girl you have sex with necessarily emasculates a man. There's nothing wrong if you love someone & want to marry them, or just don't want to attack people, or don't care about sports. We can talk about why sometimes there's an underlying pathology behind these things, like yes some men who have their first sex at 35 might get married to a woman just because she's his only chance in his head, but I don't think that person isnan indictment on all who marry those who tske their virginity. They could just be very religious, for instance. Fighting also is not inherently manly, I have seen some real bitches of men get over-sensitive & try to start fights over some of the most superficial shit, there is no inherent worth to wanting to lay hands on a person.
This slang word seems like what some pretentious macho asshole hurls at people they dislike & disagree with in much the same fashion people on the extreme left do with the term 'nazi', only the nazi's used to be a genuine threat at one point. I think there are healthier ways to attack the radical left that don't make you look like a knuckle dragging jock strap sniffer. I'm not one to say gender roles are just totally bullshit, but I view this as just naked conformity enforcement designed to target people who just do shit you personally don't like.
This is just embarrassing, fighting doesn't make you a man but if you are confronted then it is the manly thing to do! stick up for yourself and your family/girlfriend/friend whoever - those who stand by or run away are pathetic! I really didn't think the issue was as widespread as this, here is hoping this app is just full of lefties and that is the issue, not that all men are growing vagina's!
No, when you are a grown man & always reach for violent solutions in confrontations you're just... stupid. I'm not saying you shouldn't ever do it, but only as a last resort.
That is what I just said, if you are confronted with a situation and to protect yourself and family you have to fight! a real man will stand up and protect - too many "men" these days would run away and leave their friends/family to get a ass kicking!
Well nobody is saying fuckin' just, "Leave the fam man they have legs" you're imagining this as a position from people. It sounds like you're just bemoaning cowardice by attacking more feminine men.
Man, I won't lie - it makes me cringe every time I see some guy on this site sticking up for feminists and women's rights when they actually clearly have more rights within the system than men! I have no idea why they do it, other than perhaps they think this is a way to get close to females.. that is my issue! I don't really care about being super masculine etc etc, just be a man, even if you are slightly on the feminine side.
Well, I'm not a fan of the one sided approach to gender politics that says it's more important to complain about scantily-clad women in video games & ads or the existence of rape than it is to address the very correctable issues of fathers being snubbed by the court system or the sundry other MRA gripes with some validity. This is not the way to attack That problem though, as to attack these men who are being no help by associating them with pathetic femininity you aren't just making people feel hostile & even more like they're taking on some big patriarchy, you're also acting as though femininity is some villainous thing & feminists take note of that. They know how to use that rhetoric against you by painting you as a relic of 'toxic masculinity' to the unthinking masses.
I also don't think it's always an attempt to get back at females. Sometimes it's just that they're angry with the fact that more masculine males are better at attracting women they like, so they're trying to make everybody else go down with the ship so to speak. Or, they might have really hostile mothers or sisters who don't reward non-feminist thought or expression with affection, so it becomes a staple of their minds. Or it could be so many other reasons, but you can't just assume "Oh they're trying to get laid by putting on pussy hats & yelling 'down with patriarchy"
hahaha honestly, I just couldn't see any other reason for doing it! That is why I asked the question, in the hope someone may come forward and actually explain WHY!!
I think it very peculiar that "the masculine men" I have encountered on this site very often thinks that if another man has a different opinion than them and this opinion is similar to what some women might have then they are Soy Boys, feminists, etc. That it is unnatural and that the "Masculine men" always know what the truth and true world order is and there are no room for nuances.
Furthermore, it is more often claimed that this can only have the purpose of getting closer to the women on the site/app which won't work since women do not want that.
It never seems to occur that it could actually be different points of views and a desire to discuss.
Whether some one wants to label me as a soy boy or not I really do not care - but I for sure find nothing appealing in the way the "masculine voices" are heard so better a soy boy than that kind of masculinity.
I think they're fine. They're sweet, kind, and I'd hang out with one of them! Heck, I might even date one. They're better than those guys who think they're so 'manly' by tearing everyone else down and lifting weights.
I don’t agree with their views but I think they are victims of succumbing to societal pressure which makes them adopt sycophancy towards 4th wave feminism.
They were raised by single moms. A whole crop of them. Girlie-men. Soft, weak, crappy in bed, and they cry a lot. And the women loathe them. We keep hearing, 'where have all the good guys gone?' LOL
It's estimated that 33% of children are raised in Fatherless homes: www.fathers.com/.../
"An estimated 24.7 million children (33%) live absent their biological father. Source: U. S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, “Living Arrangements of Children under 18 Years/1 and Marital Status of Parents by Age, Sex, Race, and Hispanic Origin/2 and Selected Characteristics of the Child for all Children 2010.” Table C3. Internet Release Date November, 2010."
And this affects the development of the child, leading to higher levels of cortisol (the stress hormone) and lower levels of testosterone:
”the presence or absence of father was related to the cortisol and testosterone levels of boys, but not of girls… As adults, father-absent men had higher cortisol levels and lower testosterone levels than their father-present "
Yes, both girls and boys benefit from having a father, but the results for the boys are far worse. Girls may have 'daddy issues' but the boys just become completely lost - they have no mentor, no one to emulate, nothing to show them what a real man is, does, and is for. Unless they have a strong grandfather or uncle, or his mother finds another suitable father-figure for the home. Even then, she will tend to hamstring them, they are fierce defenders of their mother-role and view all others as interfering with that.
So yeah, coupled with the FI shoving their drivel down our throats, the colletive wisdom for making men boys is virtually gone in today's society. Instead we have these weirded out kids, that can't talk, spend too much time on video games, don't like or are afraid of girls, and even thinking they would rather they actually WERE a girl.
One of my three, the youngest, is a boy. And he turned out great. He's sensitive, but definitely a man, and highly successful.
... And you are taking to a single mom with a son :/ Well, either I'm blind or too much focused but can't see anything like that in my child... Very strong, military - focused character. But, yeah, generally, it can be the truth
They exist alright, perhaps you are one of them hence not realising their existance! Whether I am beta, alpha or whatever is of no difference to me, i am happy with who i am and your poor attempts to rile me show me how happy you are with yourself :)
It may be effective for some women, but not all. There are certain types of women that just go for the softies because it makes them look and feel strong.
You guessed wrong, im all for equality, which women have.. im unsure what muslims have to do with anything! Unless you are a bigoted feminist of course!
No, I'm just against all kinds of bigotry. I would have thought that as a fellow soy boy you'd be the same and that you'd know that Islam is the religion of peace.
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