+1 yBecause the point of being alpha is to get what you want and not have to compromise as often and for others to follow you because they respect your ability to perform more than their own. Obviously you can't have two people constantly fighting about how to do the dishes, finances, raise the kids, when to initiate sex, sweep the floors, decide when to go out and what to cook for dinner etc. Alpha people need someone who puts up with their type A neuroticism and desire to "control everything." Alphas think they are so good at getting what they want but they usually suck at compromising. Beta people are seen as lazier but they are better at compromising and are better at "enjoying life" than trying to control it. So an alpha women, is better with a man who is less of a control freak about as many things, but that doesn't make him any less successful or ambitious. It just means he's more willing to be the first one to say I'm sorry, kickstart communication after a fight, and appreciate her ability to run a tight ship, rather than impose his own opinions about how things should be done. I'm kind of alpha so I've learned to date guys who are more relaxed, and willing to let me do things my way (cook, clean, finances). They can still have input and help me with clarify how to do things and I listen/respect them, but they don't expect me to "adhere to his will" like an alpha might. There are some things I am not got at, and I genuinely respect when someone else is capable of doing it better than me. There are things I specifically let my partner shine at, but yeah, people need to balance each other out, not constantly compete with each other for attention and control.
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you don’t have to constantly fight in order to duscgss things. That’s a normal way of reaching decisions so when result affect everyone involved. no one person is going to be able to appropriately make utilageral decision that’s why you have collaboration.
If you’re a control freak that’s fine you know who you are but it’s odd to justify it by claiming otherwise there is constant arguing. You could just learn how to work with people... and people naturally face a final say when they have the experience / knowledge to warrant it. Not just an aggressive manner.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI'm not sure about that. I can be quite strong and opinionated… but also a bit meak when I don't care. A friend of mine is rather… a push over. When I give him advice he does as he is told. I know I couldn't live with that. I need someone who is just as strong as I am. I don't want to walk all over my partner I'd feel bad. I just want to be equals, we can argue and discuss over our opinions without one being the underdog and the other being the alpha. Of course, it will be hard, but I've Always taken the tough road in life.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ySometimes I think it is a subconscious way of finding alternating polarities. Lets face it, to a certain extent two Alphas are not going to work well together. Most Alphas are very self centered. That is what allows them to do the things they must do to achieve success and get what they want. Two people in a relationship with self centered POV's are not going to get much traction. You need to have at least one side maintaining the partnership goals.
The unhealthy and extreme variation of this psychology forms with Narcissists and codependents. They seek each other out as they require the enabling of each other to function.21 Reply- +1 y
That's a good answer. There's definite downside to alpha guy. Very big downside. Any true feminist can't really be happy with guy like this.
The "alpha" thing is stupid in my opinion. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Who's to say someone is "stonger" than someone else? In some ways maybe.
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@Tripper27 Yes I know, and I think it's stupid lol.
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+1 yPassive men tend to search for figures to follow, usually someone who will take on the role of a stern mother. It’s a weird thing mixed with fetish and likely past relationship issues with females.
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Totally true, I can say that as an absolute passive and submissive boy
Define "strong".
True, that in nature, the higher status male tends to end up with the higher status females. HOWEVER, physical strength hardly plays a part in this among women, often on the contrary - muscular or endurant hard working women are mocked sometimes.
Either way, what I think many women simply don't understand is that measuring strength is not an intersexual thing. You are a "strong", or high status woman? Great for you, you will probably find an attractive partner.
But don't come over into the men's division to prove your worth. Do you want to compete with us? Because shocker - I don't feel sexually attracted to people who I want to beat most of the time. So unless you want to be treated as a man (arguably not exactly romantic), don't compare your strength to our strength. The moment you do, you intrude on our turf, and you will stop being attractive, and become an opponent.
So yeah.
Regarding weak men being attracted to strong women - my best guess is that these are women who DIDN'T take my advice, and came over to the men's competition - and since they can't get far around here, they make do with what's left, that is, weak, metrosexual guys who already have a tendency to be submissive.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI don't think strong women attract weak men. The fact that you refer to alpha males and females is just nonsense. That does exist in humans, and honestly it doesn't even exist in most animals, it's just a myth.
The thing is that women who usually call themselves "strong" usually have certain characteristics. Such as more driven, bigger personality, more ego, more stubborn and won't say no, they don't like relying on other people for help. These aren't really attractive qualities.
Then there is what men want and find attractive. Men like a partner who makes them feel wanted and needed. A "strong" women doesn't really want that. Men want a woman who is easy to get along with and will make their lives easier and not more difficult. A "strong" women probably isn't going to be like that.
So a lot of guys don't want "strong" women because they just aren't what they want. So why would guys want to be with them. That is why those women end up with "weak" men. It's because those men aren't really catches themselves and have trouble getting women so they don't have as many options.00 ReplyMy personal theory is that we model ourselves after our own parents quite a lot, and of course we also inherit their genes, so... Anyway, if a girl has a strong mother and a weak father, that will be her model for romantic relationships, and she will expect men to be like that and expect her role to be strength. It's the same for weak men, just the other way round. So basically, if a woman has a weak dad, she won't consider a weak guy weak. She will just accept his weakness.
Whereas if she has a dominant dad, she will think weak guys are pathetic and boring.18 Reply- +1 y
Interessting view, could also go for siblings maybe. I have a dominant older sister that used to be really limitless, so i often go for asshole guys.
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@Amandaå123 Maybe. I have no idea :)
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Yeah just reflecting xD
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@Amandaå123 Sure. It's kinda funny. So your sister was a "bad boy", and now you like bad boys...
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Yeah now i fall for bullies lol, I dont see how its so funny though sice its pretty close to your own theory
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@Amandaå123 I dunno, it's just to me it makes more sense with the parents, 'cause they're in a romantic relationship. A sibling relationship is different. Unless you live in bumpkin country, maybe.
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It is acctually well known that sibling order effects who your compatiable with, that is if your the youngest then your more compatiable with someone who's an older sibling but never mind be narrow minded go ahead mericans are known to be stupid so
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@Amandaå123 Lol what? That escalated quickly. I'm not American. Interesting about sibling order. I didn't know that. Are you the youngest, since you're so assertive?
Think about it: if a person is dominant, they probably LIKE being dominant. Meaning that a dominant guy (probably) wouldn't WANT to be with a dominant girl as it would just lead to power struggles and arguments. Same thing goes for women who are dominant. Additionally, if you're submissive for whatever reason, you probably want someone else to be in charge (there's a variety of reasons this could be), and therfore you look for someone who's dominant.
If you're a dominant girl, it might make sense to either be looking for a submissive guy or a guy who wants to share the responsibilities in the relationship. In my opinion, most guys are looking to share the responsibilities anyway.21 Reply
+1 yA woman can be alpha when it comes to her career or her friends. But in a relationship, there always has to be a submissive partner otherwise you will both be arguing and trying to be in control. Alphas like to lead and you can't both lead. One has to be a follower. Imagine two train engines trying to pull the same car. One forward and the other backward. You'll never get anywhere just stressed metal. If one engine goes forward and the other starts pushing, you work as a team together instead of against each other.
40 ReplyFirst, you are stupidly ignorant of "animal" mating behavior. The whole "alpha male" and "alpha female" thing only applies to a SMALL SUBSET of social animals that does NOT include humans. Have you ever even taken a class in behavioral biology? Where did you come up with the stupid crap that you believe?
As for strong women ending up with weaker men, it sounds like you have seen bossy bitches ending up with nebbishes because strong men are turned off by immaturity and bossiness, which stupid people mistake for "strength".
Strong men want strong women, but strong men are also mature and balanced. They do NOT want some sort of parody of a "strong" woman who thinks that just throwing tantrums and yelling is "strength".30 ReplyI know what you mean I work a hard physical job and you could say I'm pretty tuff for a woman. I'm mainly more attracted to less manly men as I feel like I can look after them and they will listen to me. When I'm with a more alpha male type things it usually end in flights because we're constantly arguing who's wright.
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+1 yI don't think that's necessarily true. It has been a long believe that the male is the head of the family and truthfully in the times we live in that's not entirely the truth. I guess that when a woman is capable of taking decisions and show's the dominant attitude within her is something that a male can really appreciate (at least the opened mind ones) but obviously, when this thing is brought to extreme and the female is also the Mather, the father, the provider and guardian of the family then there is definitely a problem. To my mind there should not be a time when a woman can say stop. I think that when things are going very sideways then exact actions have to be undertaking.
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That's what I'm saying and as a result it should not be surprising that strong womans end up with weaker men. Also I'm not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing, just that if one person, be that men or women is almost solely responsible for the household, then there is definitely a problem.
1. The Alpha theory was disprove by the same scienciest that came up with it.
2. You can't have two alphas in the same pack this isn't teen wolf. They may both come off as two alphas to the outside but one is the Dom within the family and most of the time it's the lady.10 ReplyThis is just not true. There are strong men with weak women, strong men with strong women, weak men with weak women, weak men with strong women.
In animals monogamy isn't really a think so the alpha animals will beat out competition to get to each other.
I think it can be a very rewarding thing to find your physical and metal equal as a partner.00 ReplyIts not that they attract the weaker.. they chose willingly that type of men whom are weaker. For obvious so many reasons. Mostly its like that but still i won't generalise because some strong woman still want the male to be even stronger and predominant in his presence as a virile man!
00 ReplyYou hear that guys? Let's grab our cudgel and go hunt for a wife.
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+1 yThat "alpha" title is just that, a title! It's a bit pretentious too. A person can be good in some areas, but not all areas, they can believe they are though, which is a false perception. If you dig deep enough you'll find any "alpha" person has huge flaws like anybody else.
I say people should play to their strengths. Why should I get in the way of somebody's abilities, that are better than mine, just because I declare I'm an "alpha"?20 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Regarding the update, absolutely yes! Most dominant men want to lead the relationship; he doesn’t want to “ fight for the steering wheel”.
So those type of men seek a woman that is submissive in that facet (relationship leadership).
This woman can still be independent & have a career with high level goals; this does not mean she has to be a stay-at-home wife. She just has to be comfortable trusting the lead of the man.10 Reply
+1 yThe Alpha female in a group is rarely ever with the Alpha male, because the Alpha female doesn't want to be submissive, she wants to be independent. So if you have two alphas come together, you have two fiercely independent people trying to have a romantic relationship. It just doesn't work, there's always going to be conflict.
A woman needs to be willing to let her alpha male take charge if he is going to be an alpha.10 ReplyBecause its always easier with one decison maker than two, always. Im not saying its better or worse, nor it should be like that or not, but thats how it is. Also people tend to build on previous experience when it comes to relationships and sex. And since a dominant persons previous experience, statistically speaking, is most likeley to be with mostly submissive persons (since they are less of a challenge; less resistance) thats probably what the dominant person will be looking for
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+1 yOpposites attract.. And the alpha female\alpha male thing has been debunked.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../are-alpha-males-myth-or-reality00 Reply Depends on what you mean by strong. My grandmother was one of the strongest women I ever knew, both physically and mentally. My grandfather was also strong mentally and physically, but as much as they loved each other they clashed often because even as old as they were, they STILL couldn't come to an agreement on many things.
00 ReplyThey're submissive. Two dominant people will butt heads constantly creating strain on the relationship. Men prefer not to be stressed and will try to avoid stressful situations if they can. Weak men however are submissive by nature so that's what you'ee gonna find. It's not that strong women attract them more, they just attract dominant men less
00 ReplyIf 2 strong people are in a relationship it can cause problems as they are constantly fighting for dominance.
Most alpha males don't like being challenged for dominance and alpha females don't like men getting a 1 up on them.
Humans are different to animals as the females don't see intercourse as necessary for survival. There are plenty of humans on the planet and reproduction is the least of everyones worries, so the strong pair up with the weak as they for relationship hierarchies easier.10 Reply
+1 yThat's a common misconception about how the "alpha couple" works. It's usually one who's socially dominant and one who's socially submissive. That's why dominant women tend to attract submissive women, and dominant women tend to attract submissive men.
00 ReplyBecause most people want a partner who complements them, not mirrors them. We look for qualities in a partner that help fill the gaps in our own. A dominant man has little to no interest in a dominant woman. Those two will clash, not mesh. A dominant man wants a woman who will allow him to be dominant. Dating a dominant woman may as well be dating another man.
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+1 y"Animal way" to remind you not many species uses the alpha and beta shit humans made up which is most likely the thing you're talkimg about. The guy who said wolfs had the alpha and beta thingy later on saw what he mistakenly perceived as the biggest being the leader or as an alpha as he wrote but after another study he did he saw that it just how their family was and even males in our human species have been the one to one lead the family and hunt but I guess we're animals too so...
00 ReplyIt's an ego complex. Some women need to dominate and some are submissive it all depends who you are attracted to.
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You are right.
+1 yit's not whether or not someone's week or it's just someone's more equipped to deal with certain situations and the other one's more equipped to deal with other situations at least in my relationship I'm weak and some areas where he is strong and vice versa
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+1 yI think this all alpha and beta thing is over rated and stupid.
And no. Im strong and go only for strong guys , not p#ssies. I dont babysit.40 ReplyI suppose anyone would be attracted to something that seems successful and or strong, probably stems from evolution, as in picking mates that increases chance of survival and them being fit to be a mother and take care of a child.
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+1 yIt's a thing of dominance subconsciously. The weak feel they need someone strong to protect them and are willing to give themselves to that person. The strong like control and weak people give it to them for protection. Generally speaking of course, i know you probably don't think of it but it's what happens subconsciously due to human nature. Of course there are a few exceptions
00 ReplyGenetics is all it is. Chemicals in the brain that tells you what you are attracted to and what you aren't attracted to. Someone that may seem like they are alpha to one person may just look like a tool to another.
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+1 yPolarity is the reason.
"Masculinity" and "Feminity" are not attached to a specific gender. There are plenty of feminine men and masculine women.
Even in homosexual relationships, one person plays the masculine role and the other plays the feminine role.
For raw sexual attraction to take place, this polarity between two people is very important. That's the reason why strong (masculine) women often attract weaker (feminine) men.13 Reply- +1 y
@OatsnWhey If it's all about testosterones and estrogen, then how come we have "strong" women and "feminine" men in our society?
Its simple an a dominant does not seak out another dominant they will go for the submissive and the submissive ones want to be dominated.
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+1 yStrong “alphas” are usually goal oriented and are careful with their time. They want to get laid that’s and be taken care of by washing clothes cooking house cleaning. He needs to be able to focus on his objective and socialize with people who can help him get where he wants. The last the he wants to do when he gets home is spend quality time listening to some stressed out bitches problems. He needs food, sex, clothes ready for the next day and time to concentrate on his agenda.
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+1 yYou probably aren't as strong as you think.. or maybe your definition of "strength" is the kind that is more likely to attract the insecure men than the strong ones.
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+1 yI agree with the finding a person who has personality traits you lack your subconscious attracts you to them because you feel a lack of them
10 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Funny you're calling a man weaker but we all know a definition of a weak man to a women is a nice guy. The asshole is the STRONG man to women. How sad
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yUm a strong woman who loves strong men. I can’t stand a weak man! I hate push overs
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+1 yBecause he was attracted to her I suppose. We choose people who we think are compatible and will be great partner to reproduce with.
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+1 yGreat question. All weak men have some how been emasculated mostly by giving up when times got rough, so they fold up like little b***** and look for a mommy figure to cuddle him like a liitle 5 year old boy.
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+1 yIt's not that strong women attract weaker men. It's that women like to feel stronger by having weaker men who won't stand up to them any typical strong male behaviour is seen by strong women as misogynistic and they don't tend to be able to handle it
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+1 yWell there is few strong women and few strong men. So the chances for strong women to find a strong men is lower. Also strong people is like a magnet to weak people. I think that is the reason for that.
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+1 ythese are not absolute. humans aren't alphas and betas. not even animals are that simplistic.
10 Reply Those aren't strong women. The strong don't attack others unprovoked.
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+1 yNo, every alpha man wants an alpha female who is submissive only to him.
In general quality people are hard to come by, keep looking.00 ReplyYou are that strong woman that can't find Prince badass charming?
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Asker+1 yPrinces don't exist.
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You are right. You also have alpha and beta all mixed up probably. All great minds in history that shaped mankind where most of the times so called beta's. And this alpha term comes from the alpha wolf? If I remember correctly the scientist that introduced this therm wanted it to be removed from all his books. Because he made a mistake. The alpha wolf was just de daddy of the wolf's. There is no such thing as an alpha wolf. These days the world is not a jungle anymore. We would be better of working like ants. We shouldn't fight each other. But if you want to live with someone who does. Your call. I'm sure you can find someone. You can change yourself in a submissive being.
1.5K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I've found strong women only want men stronger than them, aka they only want men taller than and making more money than them.
Not the fault of men that women are so selective on superficial traits01 ReplyTwo people being dominant in the relationship doesn't work as well as one partner taking a backseat to the other.
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+1 yI was with a dominant woman once. We ended up fighting every day so... it can't work for me like that.
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+1 ySame reason big trucks attract small dicks: compensation
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You sound like the kind of woman who calls everything a guy does an "insecurity."
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Not at all. I just hate those guys with the jacked up trucks and take shots at them wherever I can.
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Ah. What's wrong with em?
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I spent most of my life in central/northeast Florida, and they were everywhere in my school parking lot, blasting that shitty modern pop-country, revving their engines when you walked by to try to scare you, being all around douchebags. I made it a point to start shit with them frequently.
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Are you attracted to small penises?
+1 yI've noticed this as well, i suppose its the opposites attract thing.
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+1 yShows dominance in the relationship and makes them feel more powerful that's why a lot of both dominate couples dont last cause they but heads
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+1 yThey don't. They just look for men they think they can take advantage of.
33 ReplyBecause you have something they cannot obtain for themselves.
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+1 yStrong women don't attract weaker men. Men in general are going to look at any and every woman
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+1 yWell, why do people date outside of their race? Why do people date the same sex?
We live in a different society these days, the "rules" change by the generation.00 Reply
+1 ySo you're attributing strong to dominant and weak to submissive?
20 ReplyI believe that the strong personality is attractive on its own. most people want to feel that they have one person in which they can leave the difficult decisions and at best they want someone to push them to their best
00 ReplyOne way:- they might be machochists☹️☹️. 😂😂
2nd ;- there is a reason why people say.. she is ur better half.. u search for ur better half.
Meaning u look for someone who can fullfill what u lack in life.
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+1 yAlpha men do not want an alpha woman. too much of a power struggle. how do you know you're an alpha woman?
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+1 yBecause women don't care about who a man is, only what he looks like. So everyone searches until a man with abs finds a woman whose personality he likes and everyone else stays alone
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