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Trending & News Continuing: for two and a half years-even when she would attempt to speak to me I would bore holes through her.
Another female friend did to me one of the worst betrayals of all. I had befriended her following my survival of the Indian Ocean Tsunami of 2004-she had appealed to me because of her interesting demeanour. In any case, I was at a very low ebb emotionally and was suffering post-traumatic stress syndrome and to that end, maybe in a moment of weakness, needed somebody who was sympathetic to that. The friendship seemed on a whole pretty good given the overlapping of mutual interests and the like; however it soured when she ultimately left overseas and upon deciding to return here-having talked it up to me and wanting to meet-did not even attempt to do so. I learned she did come back but only for a "f*** buddy" who had ruined her relationship with someone (driving this poor guy to attempt suicide) and did not even have the common decency to write an email at least stating she had come but couldn't see me-that was all I asked. Suffice to say I was bitterly disappointed but the kicker was when she wrote a pathetic one-line email apology for abandoning me. Initially I accepted it but upon further reflection rejected it and in no uncertain terms expressed the extent of my displeasure.
Following these bitter experiences-of which I neglected to mention there was one, when I was 12 where everything was invaded and which changed my demeanour/attitude permanently- I had been very cynical and came here seeking advice on how to rectify this. On a whole I have, barring a couple of exceptions-stupid girls who blocked me for whatever reasons they could conjure up-have been very blessed to speak to a great many girls who have gradually enabled me to let go of my rage and sense of rejection and become somewhat more positive, I'm indebted to them, albeit I'm still hesitant and self-conscious-but this will also be corrected in time.
I apologize for the essay(s) but I felt it maybe prudent I offered my experiences thus allowing people to appreciate how one person can be compelled to hate females.
Don't apologize. You seem very intelligent, I'm impressed! I hope you find a great girl, you deserve it! By the way, you are not ugly.
Thanks to you both; I appreciated your comments. I think all in all it was just down to some bad luck I experienced what I did; or, it was all character-building and I to see the benefits in the near future.
Thanks again
I like that you haven't given up on our gender entirely. Some of us are decent people. It speaks a lot to your character that you're on this site to try to change. Compared to a lot of the guys I've seen on this site, you're awesome.
i agree with strbryshake and I apperciate that you havnt gave up on us completely... everyone is different.
I stumbled on this question months late, but this was amazing. GaG is mainly stupid fun, but you know, I _have_ learned some good stuff here, I hope most of us have. It was amazing to read what you wrote.
Instead of caving in to defensiveness, how about expressing gratefulness to the Lord above that she revealed herself to you before you made a lifelong commitment? We (men) need to learn how to let it go--"control" should not and will never be a part of a loving relationship. Further, the need to control someone unmasks your fear of losing--a very negative approach to living life.
I do not believe men actually hate women. When you ask me what I think of 'women', I think of a negative image because whenever someone discusses 'women' in general, it's either a man complaining about women, or women complaining about how women are so much better than men. So when a general question like that is asked, all the hell of battle of the sexes breaks loose.
And by the way I am totally against any kind of gender superior crap. Battle of the sexes is disgusting and sexist.
So I think if the responders actually thought of real women in their life, while there are the ones that hurt them, there are also the ones they love and forgot to mention. I suppose it would seem anti-male to talk about how great women are. Imagine if there was a question the same about men and the women started going "Men are so amazing, and we love them. They are such caring beautiful beings who are so good at fixing broken things...etc." Think what reactions that would get from angry feminists.
So newsflash: feminists are not the only humans who don't want to appear submissive to the other gender.
Feminists have also had another part to play in this. If a man said "We love women, women are tender and soft. They are such beautifully emotional beings who care for the home and hearth and children," then they would appear to be anti-feminist and oppressive to women.
So in short, there are two stereotypes to choose from: the traditional woman and the feminist woman. The former would make the man seem like he is an asshole, so the latter is chosen, but the latter is portrayed as unfriendly toward men, so they are not going to be friendly to her either.
And yes, they will choose a stereotype because it's a stereotype question. In reality, there is no one set of ideas that can characterise all women, same with men. Some are nice, some are not, etc.
Hope this helps :). WE DON'T ALL HATE YOU REALLY!
most stereotypes, sadly?There's a REASON the stereotype exists in the first place, LMAO
oh, NO... not each and every one you meet will fit whatever stereotype exists for them, but... always a majority do, ha ha
I'm not bitter, I'm just a REALIST... men spend/spend/spend... do/do/do... and women just sit back and rake it all in... financially, presents, favors, emotionally... THEN they typically discard us for a richer, more slave-like replacement, LMAO... not ALL, but... *most do*
yeah most of THE ONES YOU ACTUALLY WANT LOL
Honestly, I think there are a large amount of men who behave badly and a large amount of women who behave badly. There's a large amount of PEOPLE who behave badly.
We're all shaped by the same societal pressures. We live in a world where everything is telling us to be superficial, materialistic, competitive. To look out for ourselves and to be willing to step on whoever it takes to get to the top. But we don't want to seem like bad people, so we lie and justify our actions so that we have the guise of being good, caring, selfless people.
It becomes a male versus female thing because:
1. Men and women have different social pressures to behave in certain ways, so these bad behaviours may take different shapes. It leads to men having a better understanding of the actions of other men, but not understanding the actions of women (and vice versa).
2. A huge goal for most people is to find a significant other. We tend to have higher expectations for a partner than we do for friends, so you're willing to overlook more about your same-sex friends than about potential romantic partners. What I mean is, most people are happy to have lots of friends, but are only looking for one significant other---so that one person has to be the "right" person. You don't have as high expectations for people of the same sex because you don't want as much from them, but you do look at members of the opposite sex much more critically.
People are really good at holding other people to high standards, but what they need to do is to start holding themselves to higher standards. Look critically at your own behavior and think, "Would I want someone else to treat me this way?" Try honesty instead of game-playing. Try to be empathetic to the people around you. If you're looking for a certain quality in a partner, take a look at yourself ask if you have that quality yourself. You want a partner who is honest, confident, loving, trustworthy? Be that person yourself first.
Sorry, I mean "take a look at yourself AND ask if you have that quality yourself."
Well, I admit that I have had issues with men myself, like every other woman out there. Most men don't see what a wonderful person I am, don't bother to really get to know me and don't see me as worth more than a good time or a FWB. Since I'm abstinent, it's just one more reason for men to reject me. Because of the way I'm built, men assume I'm this undercover whore or tramp who goes around hooking with every guy I meet because I wear sweats and don't dress up or wear makeup and keep to myself; the truth is I am always alone. No one approaches me and when I approach guys, they assume I just want to hook up and I don't. Even the average and below-average looking guys want a woman who looks like she's in the running for the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition cover or centerfold spread and while I am attractive, I'm not attractive enough to be seen with, so they want to take me out late at night and sit in the back of some dive and hide me and walk ahead of me so no one thinks we're together. I have more self respect than to let a man treat me like that.
A lot of times people tend to treat the next one they meet based on how they themselves were treated by the last one--remember the girl who "laid down the law" on the first date about how she wasn't going to put up with cheating or lying or laziness?--and that isn't right. I used to do that, but I stopped; however I no longer date. Dating is supposed to be fun, but I don't find it fun for a man to ask me for sex on the first date. I don't ask for money on the first date. That's tacky. Just remember that not all women hurt or mistreated you; judge them not on the merits of others, but on their own.
Okay I know exactly what you mean. I mean my dad was very hostile showed much hatred or disdain for me and my mother, and abused us, etc. I asked myself this question in general many times. The thing is, I try not to view it as "men" that hate women. It's just individuals that are guys, that maybe the woman they are with or whatever, it's just not meant-to-be, or working out, life is just so unpredictable. Women can be opressed by their husbands, but not every husband will do that, which I know that. But I grew into this world, thinking I did something wrong, with the way my father treated me, etc. But I'm saying the hatred can be controlled by the person who bears it, even if it derives from another source. So women or men that both show hatred or disdain for someone is control of their actions. We all have a choice. Even though women and men are very different, we are still the same in so many ways we both hurt and we can both love. People just have to try to see the whole picture, than just their part of the whole picture. We got to look and both women and men's point of view based on the situation, we have to justify the means. I found this question very interesting, and I hoped somehow I contributed my opinion in a good way to this question.
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I can't generalise but I can speak for myself-I used to hate women, with an intense range that was all-consuming. As to my reasons- I was subjected to monstrous treatment from childhood where I was told constantly by females that I was unattractive and would never attract anyone or make friends with females; I was made to feel worthless and that scarred me emotionally. As a precocious child I had no one to relate to and females in my age bracket were extremely judgmental and would either ridicule me or avoid me completely.
Subsequently, in high-school I had no relations with them given my school did not go co-ed until senior high-there were momentary interactions with them but nothing tangible giving how transient they were; but one memory sticks in my mind-of a "dance" if you like where I was goaded to go and saw I was one of the pathetic few without any female interest. In senior-high I attempted to be personable but was rebuffed because of slanderous lies against my person whereby it was alleged I was a psychopath intent on massacring people at the end of high-school and so forth; my preference in music did me no favours either but that is symptomatic of the average, stupid, judgmental teenage girl. There was also a further altercation whereby said stupid teenage girls misconstrued a conversation of which they were not privy to, nor were being spoken of, I was having with friends in a class and I was vilified also. To that end I avoided any social activities with them like one would Bubonic Plague and I didn't go to, use the American turn-of-phrase, proms or anything like that.
Going onto university I again attempted to make friendly relations with females but these were spectacularly disastrous given their immaturity, duplicity and dishonourable acts; one changed completely believing I had "made a pass" at her for congratulating her for getting a job, mind you I was wholly aware of her being in a relationship -in which case she then had the temerity to think I was avoiding her and jeopardising my education as a result, when I was merely in another class on another day-suffice to say I was furious when she SMSed me that and I responded that "the smallest of my farts deserved more attention than her"-crass I know but effective; her latter act of trying to appeal to me through a mutual friend purporting to like me as a friend saw me further enraged and I summed up the situation to him as "friends don't do that to friends"-I never forget the date it all happened-May 23, 2003.
Another would use me for her benefit in Japanese and ultimately attempt to step all over me-there was a situation where I had not heard from her for a time and being the chivalrous, and idiotic boob I was, SMSed her asking how she had been etc.-she rebuked me stating that I was "not her boyfriend" to which I was naturally bemused and angered by this. She attempted to apologize and I accepted-wary of her intentions. She then attempted the same tricks and I ignored her
If it hasn't already been suggested, how about seeking some professional therapy to resolve these burning, apparently unforgivable injuries to yourself?
I hate a lot of them because they have ridiculous standards that a lot of us can't measure up to. They flirt with us and when we ask them out they reject us. I also hate the fact that a lot of them are unapproachable. I hate the fact that I don't understand what a hot woman's motive is when she starts a conversation with me and try's to get to know me. I'm not hot or cute, so I assume that when a hot woman starts a conversation with me it must mean she wants to use me for my money. I want women to make it clear to as to why they are talking to me and not some better looking guy. I hate that there's so many good looking women that dress slutty to the point that when I see a good looking woman that is dressed conservatively I automatically assume she must be a woman that's trying to hide the fact that she's a whore. I hate that we are usually the ones that have to ask the women out. Men have been doing that for many decades. Its time that women start asking us out.
Also you women need to stop judging us so quickly. You women have to keep in mind that if a guy is talking to you and he comes off as not explaining himself very well its probably because you make him nervous or has poor social skills and you women should give the guy more time to get to know him.
Hey I understand. I used to be very angry at men because they have such high standards when it comes to looks. I am a mediocre looking woman, so I don't stand out. When I'd ask men out, they would always say no because they wanted a more attractive woman. But I learned men have had these high expectations since the beginning of time & I need to accept this about them. I no longer have a beef with them & accept that I might never find a guy.
I don't have the best social skills myself, so a lot men are turned off by that. I don't blame the men for being turned off by this though, I'm the one with the problem. I've learned it is pointless to wish the opposite gender would change, all I can do is love myself & no guy can do that as well, so be it. I have no ill will towards men, & know their desire for good looks is a subconscious & they don't realize it half the time.
I feel bad that you think this way about all women. Don't assume that every woman who talks to you is doing it to be mean. She may genuinely be interested. I am always attracted to the guys who are less generically attractive, because I assume that they are nicer than the "hott guys" (which is a stereotype, I know.) Some women might think you seem nice, which believe it or not, is desirable. And you need to pay less attention to the way a woman is dressed, because it doesn't accurately describe
or represent her personality. girls usually dress for other women, because they are the ones who pay attention. I have blond hair, and if I wear pink, it doesn't mean I am a dumb wanna-be barbie idiot. I have straight A's. I'm sorry if women have been mean to you in the past, but not every woman is bad. I've been hurt be countless men, (friends, boyfriends, and family members) but I am not gonna say all men are terrible. people can suck regardless of their genitalia. but don't forget the good ones
thanks :)
Women get just as nervous as men do. I feel that too many mediocre looking men don't bother with mediocre looking women. Stop looking for a hot chick and start looking for a cool chick and your luck will change. Hot chicks are usually used to being beautiful and getting what they want tht they are high maintenance. That or they spend way too much time on their appearance and way too little time on other things. They are too self-centered and entitled. Go for a nice girl wtih averge looks.
@polyglotmom I don't go for hot women. I don't trust them. I stated above that a hot woman started a conversation with me. I prefer a woman that's above average looking that's CUTE.
you seem to have a negative perspective bout women and not to get a psyciatric on ya but you can't think just because they are talking to you they want your money. some women like me are very sociable and just enjoy meeting new people. its not always looks that do it. for instance if you were alone and I walked in and decided to start talking to you its probably because you look freindly or I feel I can do that.most of us women don't really get why its so hard for you guys to approach us (continued )
There are reasons for some men to hate woman, specially when they are hurt or deceived by a woman they loved. I do not hate woman in general, but my attitude towards the whole womankind changed a lot after my girlfriend/fiancée left me. She, her mother, her aunt, my mother and my sister been so Racist and Feminist, and they all disrupted a good relationship because of their arrogant and stupid actions and words.
I no longer find woman to be trustworthy and intelligent. Woman are generally, selfish and ungrateful. To be honest, I don't remember any woman to be grateful to anything. They just forget. They can't think about others' feelings. Woman take rash decisions without analyzing to all the critical details. Besides, as a fact they have a smaller brain.
Unless a woman has children, I have seen that they would just have sex with anyone they could find, and pretend that nothing happened. Being extremely Feminist and not Feminine at all, woman often do things that are not so appropriate to any civilized man or woman. Sometimes I find it disgusting.
I do not want to put my trust and love on a woman who would later deceive me and hurt me. But at the end, to find that all the woman nowadays are like that.
wow if I had gone through all that you've experienced, I would hate women too. but please don't think that all women are bad. I have been in the opposite situation, where all the men I've known have hurt me. I try not to think that all men are terrible. there are good people out there, they are just very few and far between.
SOMEBODY GOT ROASTED N TOASTED... Dude, I feel so bad for you... that's terrible what happened... but you need to know- most women are NOT like that sorry POS you just had exorcised (mercifully) from your life... I bet you hate women now... but those feelings will change once you get tired of being alone (or beating off). It's not as bad as you think it is.
wow chill dude, don't have a fu(king cow. Men and women are both good and bad and everything in between. Try to temper your hate. It's self defeating.
your trippin dude no not all women are like that I've been cheated on abused constantly lied to npt thought of etc but I don't go around saying all men are selfish pricks that will just f*** anything in their path anyway they can. it would be childish really to just categorize women like that. you've obviously built a wall. I know its hard what you went through and I can relate but please don't go and catergorize ALL women to be like that at least say most...even tho I am one I hate most all of em!
Dirtybikegirl - This question is closed, why are you leaving comments all over the place, I don't want to have to keep coming back to this question. Pay attention to updates next!
Most women these days act as if they should be worshipped simply for owning a vagina. They have no real interests; they mostly just gossip, badmouth people, and waste time in general. They're usually very fat and frequently unhygienic. They can't cook, clean or do anything of value and truly believe their guy should do all that just to get sex. They spend most of their copious free time planted in front of a television letting their mind atrophy and their butt expand.
The results of this are clear. Divorce rates are up, marriage rates are down, and women -- not men -- are complaining about difficulty marrying. Rather than growing up, white women are looking more and more toward minority races for guys who will pedestalize them, as white guys are increasingly aware, and sick of, the "Princess" routine. It's particularly disgusting when you see women in their 60s and even 70s still acting and dressing like teenagers. "Cougars", they've come to be called, though I just call them disgusting. Grow up, seriously.
Yeah you can't have a black and white answer from a grey question like that. Depends on the female role models the men have in their lives. Also, men will generally answer that question based on the women they meet in their lives. Usually, we don't meet nice women in general. Same as women don't meet nice men in general. That's why men think all women are bitches and women think all men are dogs. It's how we eventually meet the right person because we have so many not so right people to help us know what the right person will be when we eventually do meet them.
Also, that question is a pretty loaded question as AdamBH gave and observation of. If you answer it in one way or another, you're going to be labelled as either chauvinistic or "whipped" and a poof. That question, in itself, is probably why guys are got so negative to her about women. It's a dangerous question that makes us have to choose a side about how women should be and that's not fair for any guy. But I do see where she is coming from with that type of question and I don't think she meant it to be a loaded one. Guys aren't very cut-n-dry as society would lead people to believe.
Most of the guys on here are bitter and angry about their lack of success with women have this dislike/hatred and bitterness towards women.They whine and complain about their failures yet do nothing about it.I'm referring to the guys on this site,not all,but a majority
Do you think most men don't actually feel this way then, it's just the men on this website who are woman haters?
Most men don't feel this way...hence why those guys are able to have relationships with women,have girlfriends/wives...yet the same guys who answer in a bitter manner about their dislike towards women don't have girlfriends/wives...wonder why
well, even women are so cruel to each other.
...and why do some people believe one sex hates the other? When assembled in groups (where the likelihood of groupthink increases at a rate proportionate to the numbers) men and women can be quite bold and prejudiced; individuals tell another story, I assure you. In lieu of hate, supplant the word with "disrespect," and I think you've nailed it.
There have been situations during which a woman may have voiced how much she hates this-or-that about men, and when I managed to get her away from her group of eager male-detractors, I asked her if she really meant what she said--in most cases she did not. I'm not naïve enough to disregard that she may have been acquiescing because she may have felt somehow intimidated by me, but I choose to believe she was being forthright.
Slightly off-track, what I do find most puzzling is how consistently North-American women commonly express such a negative view of men (who they as a group have already rejected time after time) who seek companionship overseas. The responses from the North-American women I've asked about it are breathtakingly brusque and (yes, frankly) bigoted or racist. Responses from foreign or non-native American women generally have been "que sera, sera" and allow a man, like a woman, to pursue his path to happiness. Interestingly, the most vituperative (and defensive) responses have come from women who are highly educated and in high-paying or high-esteem jobs.
So, if I may engineer your question a bit, I'd phrase it this way: "What specifics contribute to the common displays of disrespect among North-American men and women?"
Hi, I'm a man and I'm older and educated in psychology. Men don't understand what their problem is with women. It takes an older person to understand. Believe it or not things used to be different and men liked women a lot more. I'll use a comparison: The government used to be liked by the American people and you would be called bad names by everyone if you said anything bad about the Govt. "a Commy" Then came legislation...laws to make the laws easier to enforce, raises. Soon we have 5000 federal laws to obey...Guess what most of America hates American govt..and they don't even want to talk about it anymore. You can't legislate respect or love...We did the same with women...laws to protect, make more money on and on..(I'm not saying they weren't needed, or good or bad..I try my best not to have an opinion, I like facts.) This "love" has to be given or there will be resentment. LOVE AND RESPECT CANNOT BE LEGISLATED. So take what you will, but you will not have both, most of the time. There will be abuse by whomever has power. When you legislate a new set of rules it gets complicated and few men have the capacity to understand that. They didn't hardly understand it before . Right...there was a problem, that's why we made some changes. You expect them to be able to digest a change like what has happened? If they are young they don't know what has happened but their instincts tell them that something is not right.. What did God design them to do ...We have not made any physical changes in man. They are like a boat out of water.
I disagree that "most of America hates American govt..." I find where people "hate" or distrust government is among those who haven't taken the initiative to actually study how our government is supposed to function.
well at least most women in U.S. think superior to men which they are socially and legally. in general they are just scum, they refuses to responsibilty for there actions, they lie about stuff like being raped and ruin people lives, lie about a guy beatin them, minipulate feeling and people to get what they want, ect. men aren't perfect either but in general are nothing like females in the U.S. yes this a generalization based on my whole life (not just my personal expiriences) and not stereotype. I have a close female friend so obviously there are exceptions.
I'm an American woman who grew up with boys and always loved hanging around men. Men are so much fun (if you're not dating or married to one, lol). I have 2 boy and just love their boyness. I don't feel superior to men. I get disgusted by the games that a lot of Am women play, how they screw over men in family court and feel entitled to sit home and collect their man's money. Please realize that not all Am women are like that. There are a lot of us cool chicks around.
i agree with polyglotmom I was raised with guys and barely have any gfs at all I hate women like she describes but there are drama queens like that. I personally would never do that to a man make him work and take half his sh*t to me if I didn't work for it its not mine...just goes to show how being raised with guys makes you that much more prepared fpr all the things chicks do to them...and how not to do that to your man. I love men but I love to hate em too...( in a good way)
I'm married to a Venezuelan woman, so my experience is not mainstream. Most guys I know resent, dislike, or hate women to some extent though.
Maybe it's because they are mostly venal shopaholics who worship Don Trump and Israeli paratroopers and Obama's drones. They REALLY like drones, of course.
Sorry, but this is more or less how most guys feel, even if most of them are not going to admit it on a forum like this.
Be honest, what about women? Aren't they generally MORE hostile to men than we are to women? That's my experience, in general.
Sure it's not true among minority communities with a different culture, and that's a lot of people in the US. But among the dominant media culture in the US, no doubt it's mostly hostile, and that runs in BOTH directions! Don't blame it on guys, the women are at LEAST as hostile...probably more so, in my unscientific surveys.
Good for you exceptional women...
I don't think most women worship Donald Trump, Israeli paratroopes & Obama drones (whatever this is)... Are you sure you're not confusing us with some weird chicks you dreamed about last night?
As you said yourself, anonymous, nearly ALL the guys responding said they disliked/distrusted/hated women. A lot of the women obviously know this and don't dispute it, either.
So this response of yours is just plain dishonest.
Dishonesty is another reason most guys don't like most US women, you know.
How in the HELL is my answer dishonest. And you don't need to call me anonymous, I'm TheCheshireCat.
The guys on this site hardly prove that the question asker is dishonest. Sure, I would say that any hostility is mutual, but this is a relationship advice site. That means the majority of people here are probably having problems with relationships; it seems to draw the bitter, man/woman-hating extremes. That's a poor representation of society as a whole. The guys I know aren't nearly as resentful as you make them out to be, Martyfellow, and the women aren't as horrible either.
Look at what EVERY guy here says. If you can..
I've decided you're on drugs...
ALL of us, plus all the ones too scared to post, all of us are on drugs. Interresting.
De Nile isn't a river in Egypt.
"Martfellow is a lunatic", is a river in Egypt :P
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This is a great site to let out our frustrations as well as our progressive thoughts. The guys that are posting hostile responses likely have no real experience with women (meaning they haven't gone through a relationship where they really learned something about themselves as well as about the opposite sex) I've hated men... we all have. But, with my experience, I've learned you have to take the bad with the good and appreciate your differences to the opposite sex rather than dismiss them. I could say 50 bad things... or I could turn them into 50 things that make us different and instead list 50 more good things that I love about men. They just need to get over themselves a little... they are probly just frustrated... or else they wouldn't be on this site in the first place.
I just think that Men and Women are different. Difference scares some people. Difference pisses others off. Some appreciate difference, others are afraid of it and the rest just plain don't understand it.
This is why you cannot generalise as everyone's opinion is going to be slightly different.
Ask a guy that is scared to death of women and you are going to get a totally different answer to a guy who appreciates women.
Ask the same guy who used to appreciate women but got f***ed over and his opinion will likely have changed all because one women f***ed up . Its a sad fact but that is how it is.
You just got to trust that the geniune women will change the perception of the guy who got burned and that they learn the truth. .. . that the world may be full of hoes but you got to believe that it is also full of wonderful women who are waiting to be treated with dignity and respect and are waiting to treat a man in equal fashion. Don't give up on either sex. We are out there.
The thing about asking questions like that is answering is optional. The results are so biased because you can decide whether or not to answer and those who decide to answer usually have a very strong opinion on what they're saying. Take surveys on receipts for example, if you had a really bad experience you might go out of your way to take the time to go to the website and complain (same if it was amazing) but if it was just so-so then you're less likely to take all that time and effort just to say it was OK. If you want the honest answer guys probably aren't gonna answer rambling about how much they love women, women probably wouldn't do it either (atleast I wouldn't).
Good Point!
Hey, I answered that one! :D
My answer to that question should make it clear why I hate women. I hate liars, cheaters, attention-whores, bitches, teases, etc. and that's all women are.
Most guys however don't feel the same as me. Most guys like girls.
Oh Eddy...
That's a very general over bearing question. Quite a few men hate women, but quite a few women hate men. They're called feminists.
Both sides have many reasons, but really the big ones stem from a hatred of the other biological nature. For example:
The men who hate women for the most part think women are materialistic and greedy, and only want them for their money. This is an exaggeration of women's biological drive to seek one partner who is financially stable who can take care of her offspring.
The women who hate men for the most part think men are domineering animals who only want them for sex. This is an exaggeration of men's biological drive to seek many sex partners to spread his genes around.
So, if both sides just accepted the others' natural drives, then the whole world would be blue skies and gum drops.
I know you said its closed but I think I could give you some real answers...and I wouldn't say I hate women...but I will say that...I distrust many of them and have negative view of many of them and I could tell you why if your intetrested and don't want to hear just simple answers like "o their mad because they got cheated on" etc etc...its more complex than that...I would say I resnt a lot of women for some reasons but I would never claim to hate an entire gender simply because of problem with some of them. of course, some of the problems I have with women seem to be with MOST women, that I've encountered in my life. So, if you give me the go ahead, I can write another answer here...or You could message./friend me so I could talk with you about it over chat.
At one point you have to take a very critical look at yourself if relationship continuously fail.
Look at all the responses from guys sayin how they love women! I will post a question saying the same thing about women and I bet that a lot of women say a lot of negative sh*t about men. Why don't you women love us as much as we love you? Us men are willing to go to war and die for you! And you treat us like assholes just because we want sex! Well what the f*** do you want from us? God made us to need sex. Would you rather we didn't want sex?
Yeah, but a lot of guys said they hated women too. If you look at the answer above yours, you'll see a really sexist guy's answer.
Modern Love = Control, domination/intimidation, and power...ah, l'amour!
A lot of guys on here have had bad experiences with girls, that's why they're on this website, to ask questions in order to understand us better. Most of them just whine about us though.
LOL
Hmm... one might say that the women here have done the same... asking a question and complaining that all men hate women... and how big of pig every last man is because of a few bad apples.
I love women, BTW. ;-)
men hate women probably for the same reasons some women hate men:
1. they lie
2. they cheat
3. they lie under pressure
4. they are conceited and arrogant, and self centered and manipulative
5. they steal and they complain way too much if they don't get their way
blah blah blah
and some times women do this too.
I try not to ofcourse but I have caught my guy doing this sh*t.
dang, people get some morals! stop doing gay sh*t.
these guys are just jaded from past failures with women that they don't yet realize are actually their own fault!
when you take responsibility for your own life and what happens to you, you don't hate anyone.
Thank you
exactly how I would of put it
not all of them I think, but most of them.
'cause they think of a woman as a sexual partner...
and maybe because woman are very emotional, immature and impatient and they hate it...
BUT IN SPITE ALL THAT, THEY
ARE FORGIVING, LOVING, CARING, AND FAITHFUL..
ONCE THEY CHOOSE YOU, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE YOU..!
Actually, women mature faster then men...
Jager66: I think that both sexes display their emotional immaturity on a daily basis.
as great as those later qualities are, they end up very spoiled and stupid because you end up being loyal, forgiving and faithfull to the BIG COCK ASSHOLE GRUNT that got his penis in the door by being a prick. Your emotional nature did not let you see the perhaps awkward at times desperate nice guy who wanted your cooch. So now the good guy's turning bitter and jaded, and the well-played asshole PUA is being forgiven. Shaking my daamn head.
because we love them, and it makes us weak, and when you surrender to that weakness and fully love a woman, she feels that weakness, and she is attracted to power. Can't love a woman, but we want to, that's the curse.
Personally, I love women. Seriously, I'm kindof "girl-crazy." But that's just me. I can't stand some women, but that's because either they're really annoying or because they've hurt me in some way. However, I still like being around them because, well, I'm girl-crazy.
I myself have never had much luck (no luck) in the dating department,for that reason I have decided to stay single. But I don't hate women,not a single ill thought. However, I'm disappointed in their seeming lack of common sense when it comes to relationship-decision making (like my sister for example).
"Men" <- Generalizing. Quit it. Seriously. It's a two way street. Some guys do. Some girls do. Not every single damn one of us. There's about 6.5 billion men in the world. When you say "men" you talk about every single one of them. You're not helping anyone by creating a bias in your mind or others.
cause women get everything their way, and they are spoiled... women are always using their "weak and feminism" image to get in the easy way. and women could hate, tease, bother, humiliate, degrade, criticized, us but we can do shyt back
haha I enjoy this question
its not that we hate women. but we hate women who think they all that
who think they can scrape by life living off there parents or bf/fiance/husband forever
i only hate women in general cause I think they all crazy until proven different haha!
but that doesn't mean I haven't met someone that changed that and more?
honestly women hate men just as much. we live in a hateful world! haha
this is too funny
as crazy as it may seem I think most women called it on themselves. Many women need to respect themselves b4 anyone will respect them. That does not excuse some guys behavior in any way. The sleeping around and everything that SOME do is too much. Respecting yourself speaks volumes to anyone else. Besides that some guys are jerks by nature and I think they follow thier friends or what they think is cool. GUYS LOVE TO IMPRESS THIER FRIENDS! A lot of guys still get what they want regardless of the disrespect they have b because most women let them! As result they continue. You have to respect and love you first!
sorry but I personally love women and those guys were just being d***s
You are awesome!
I don't. I just don't like people who identify as women or men, usually. 'Cos I feel its outdated. Women are boring, girls are cool.There's a lot to be read into that, I feel, and nobody was reading anything into it judging by the down arrows, hahaha. I tend to say things in abstract ways, see.
LOL, one time when a girl asked everyone to stop posting, I got everyone on my friends list to make answers, and comment on everyone elses. She didn't say anything though, haha. She was a bit more mature than I am.
Are you really Cheshire?
It's because those who answer questions online is not an accurate sampling of all males. Only those with an axe to grind will bother responding to such a question. Most normal guys wouldn't bother. And the vocal but small minority will always be the loudest in such situations.
Just like every time someone asks a question regarding race, crazy racists will crawl out of the woodworks. Some of these people like to specifically look for certain topics just to trash it.
Men hate women because of past experiences and they let their judgment be clouded and tainted. It's ridiculous. It's like letting one bad apple spoil the whole barrel or however it goes.
..the exact same reason why women hate men.
irykiryk- People can't handle the truth, so they downsize it
so true.. and vice versa.
i loooove women. I don't see how anyone could hate women. they are beautiful and funny and awesome. sometimes their drama is annoying but that's the only downside.
because women can cheat on men and justify it in their minds
And, so can men... What's your point?
there is no way to justify it hun if you cheated you cheated there's never an excuse because if you didn't like the person your with enough to cheat on them then you shpuld of just broke up with that person I believe...and I'm not saying you in generall just sayin
This is the internet, the place where whackos and nut jobs gravitate to each other and reinforce their own twisted views in isolation and anonymity. You should never, ever read something on the internet and assume it reflects the opinion of an entire group of people.
Well I hate "bitches" ... and you know whom you are in this forum, right? Come out of your anonymity for a change...eh? eh? Not gonna happen, is it?
Well, there you have it, Miss Anonymous. So many god-damn anonymous female questions on this forum because women are afraid to let themselves go. For chirst's sake, this is the post-feminist era -- just let your labias hang out like a man's penis...all the way to the floor. Be proud of it. Stop hiding!
I'm the TheCheshireCat, so take that!
By the way, great way to deviate away from the question & complain about something that doesn't really matter!
AAWWHHH! Have I just being kicked in the balls or did I run into a wall? I can't remember. Something about "CheshireCat..." then BAM! Black out! What the fork happen? Did someone steal my wallet? Why the hell am I wearing diapers? And they're soiled! Jesus-H-Christ, this better be my defecation!
Are you on drugs?
i think you mean 'why do men on the internet hate women'. they are a different kind of man, the ones that write those things hate women because they're nerdy computer types who were never looked at by the pretty girls in high school, and they want revenge!
I'm the one that answered I like them a lot but I don't trust them. It is because of past experience and observing others' relationships also. I'm sure there are plenty of women out there that don't trust men (always thinking we just want sex) so don't judge me too harshly.
Believe me, MEN DON'T HATE WOMEN LOL. They may some carry grudges, but there's not such thing as men hating women and if there is something' s really deranged about them.
Sounds like someone got trolled.
Most men really don't have that negative opinion of women. This is the internet though... It's funny when someone takes offense to something.
Not all guys hate women.Probly a lot of guys have been hurt by women that's why they say they hate women.I never hated women but how I view women has changed a lot after dating my ex.I really do not trust them any more.I do think women have to much power and us guys really can not say or do much,I lost a child because the women that I dated turned out to being a lying cheating whore.
unless you learn from the experience, and learn what women really want (there are some great articles on this site in the article section) and how they think, you will set yourself up to be used/cheated on again. its human nature to take advantage of people who let themselves be taken advantage of. I'm sure there where tons of red flags in your relationship that would have let you know what was coming if you had paid attention.
we are jealous how you have an easier, unfair advantage when it comes to attracting a member of the oppossite sex
fair enough, but remember, it's only easier for the good looking girls, the average & below average girls have just as difficult of a time in finding partners.
still, it's easier for you girls since we guys always have to initiate, you have everything handed to you on a silver platter
Uh, yeah right! I don't have anything handed to me on a silver platter, I work my a** off to make a living & no one helps me. Also, no man ever comes unto to me, & so I've had to initiate only to get rejected. You brought this up with the wrong girl.
Bullsh*t, even decent looking women only needs to walk into a bar in her skirt, she would be picked up. Comeon do we still need to debate about this? It is so obvious that women get guys much much easier than men getting women. Oh and also, since men are still expected to pay for dinner, our wallet limits the number and times we can date per pay check. Don't give me that women make their own money...but they still won't pay for dinner.
I'm a mediocre girl Frankie, & even if I wasn't, I wouldn't flaunt my stuff like I'm a sexual object, I have self respect. You've never meant me, you don't know how hard I work. I have to work harder than you because I have to make up for not being tall or big muscles. I'm the hardest worker at my job & I work with a lot of men. They would tell you I don't depend on any guy to take care of me, I do it all myself.
girls can get a boyfriend standing still
Not always true. Girls can easily hook up, but many guys don't want any more than that. I work my butt off and always supported myself. Not having the look, very few guys would approach me for anything more than a roll in the hay.
girls always judge us guys for our social skills, conversation skills
the questions closed
still, it's easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than it is for a guy to get a girlfriend
I know you have more to say, but I'm closing this question.
i feel like I wrote what she did... I ain't ever had sh*t givin to me especially from a man...
I don't hate woman, though I don't really trust them.
thats easy we ant to be treated with equality. we gave it to you when you asked for it so now its your turn.
why? I want to answer what are you going to do about it huh?. This is why I don't like women, stop being so controlling!
i don't think they hate us but I think some lose respect for women cos of some of the crazy stuff they do
We don't hate them just a lot of girls like to play some games and most men don't like to be played with.
I get you
i hate society in general, not only women. You may say i´m a misanthropist.
i like tour answer.
the guys who said negative sh*t said that out of frustration because they can't get laid. they've probably delt with a lot of rejection from girls.
Men hate women when he gets cheated by women and has ruined his life because of that gender.
i rated you because of your avater... the ICON
check out some of the articles on this site, and you will understand better why this happens
I don't. But why do some women hate men? A few bad experiences shouldn't shift what we feel as a whole towards the opposite gender, easier said than done, but that's what I feel.
I do not hate all, I hate some. Generally, I get annoyed about moodiness or nagginess, and especially about mind games.
yup yup see but not all women do tht I am a women and let me just say I am very blunt and believe mind games are just a waste of time and of coarse some women are moody and naggy at times but not all the time depending on what type of women you hang wit..yup
If I only got 1 word to describe women, then I would go for "ungrateful".
This comes out of numerous experiences, personal but not only.
Many women describe man with one word, "selfish." It's not nice to generalize...
its really not nice because you could ask anyone I know and they would all tell you how grateful I am about everything looks like you havnt found any good chicks you must live in vegas because all these chicks out here are f***in wack..cept some of us
I don't hate women but I really hate generalizations such as this that women make about men.
Don't we all hate generalizations? I think she was just responding to the overwhelmingly negative, generalized answers men had made to the other question, so I wouldn't judge her too harshly for asking a generalized question in return. At least she had an example to back her up- though she might have phrased her question differently, I'd still consider it a valid one.
its not that we hate women, its just that no one trusts women, and women never say what they mean
no it's all women's fault, they never say what they mean
It's true. Women can get away with things men could never! There are things that I could generalize about women...like they get sympathy way more than men. They get all types of help from guys and girls and the government. You could just imagine with that power...most women wouldn't mind taking advantage of them...hence...we have most women disrespecting men and calling men names. NO this is not being general, this is the trend!
We're not ALL like that, & those people are A**holes! Thanx for the generalization... made me feel like a piece of crap...
They want sex, for one. I only hate sexually promiscuous women, or any woman that's ever had sex outside a committed exclusive relationship,cheated, had casual sex or a threesome.
That's different, usually men love those kind of women, & ignore the nice girls...
but I love chix like that!
What's wrong with not wanting to date hos? Seriously from these rhumbs down yous think I was Hitler
questions closed, please no more comments.
I hate women and how hard I can f*** their tight wet pussies.
P.s. I don't care if "Question is Closed", from my experience when things are closed they can easily be opened. ;)
They want you all to take your heads out of your asses and stop being stupid.
Because many women are just sluts they gotta figure out to only sleep with one guy in their whole life like geese do!
And what about the male sluts who think they have some special right to sleep with as many women as they want?
who ever said that is right. men always do that. they think its awsome that other guys have had sex with a whole bunchof girls but when it comes to girls having sex with lots of guys you call us sluts...dont get it at all
It's a different context with men. Most women are looked at as sexual prizes to most men. Have you ever seen a Pickup Artist selling books and DVDs geared towards helping women find men to date and have sex with? No.
Most young women can walk into an establishment, party, or wherever and have every man in that environment fantasizing about her. Now, the same DEFINITELY does not go for most young men. You get the point.
Women are called "whores" when they sleep around because they abuse that power they have over men. Men can be called whores as well, just in different capacities. For example, men who are addicted to popularity over advertise themselves can be called "fame whores" etc. Most men can't really exercise the power to entice most women to sleep with them. There is a stark contrast between men and women when it comes to sex. Have you ever seen a lot of male prostitutes for women, ugly or not? NO.
First of all if your gonna say something like that. Don't be anonymous and also isny it guys who are always tryin to get laid?
Besides if that's the way its gonna be men should stop trying to get girls to slee with them
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