Been seeing here a lot of this type of guys and they are always obsess with traditional gender roles, and chivalry, stuff in that kind of line. That being complemented with trying to blame women for their lack of succes hinting that if we lived back in the day they would be the shit when in reality they would probably be even bigger losers. By niceguy i don't mean a guy that is nice i mean a guy that acts nice to try to get u to sleep with him but when u don't gets mad at you.
Why are incels and niceguys so obsessed with gender roles? And blaming women?
They're obsessed with gender roles and returning to the past because the average men really did have it better back then. They wouldn't have been even bigger losers.
I get it, nice incels are annoying and everybody hates them, they're easy targets for ridicule. They annoy the fuck out of me too sometimes. But they become that way for a reason. Most people don't really think about those reasons, they just say "lol nice guys/incels are such losers" and that's it. That's the only reason you'd say that.
If it were true, their numbers wouldn't be increasing.
In the past the dating scene was actually easier for the average man. They didn't have the technology we have today - cell phones, computers, the internet, the transport. To add to that they were much more strict morally, there was no sleeping around. People mostly met people from their area. Women were encouraged not to sleep around, to save themselves for the right guy. Guys had to prove themselves to the woman by being a gentleman. If all went well they'd get married. It wasn't perfect of course, but that's how it worked.
The dating scene has completely changed. Now we have cell phones, the internet, transport etc. We've also become much more liberal when it comes to the morality of sex. People sleep around more, they have sex quickly a lot of the time within the first couple of dates, cheating is more common because sex is easier to get for those who can get it, people have tons more options, people wait until much later to settle down as they explore their options, failed relationships are much more common etc. That has all changed.
The people who do best in today's dating scene are people who understand the above and how to make it work for them. The ones who fail are the ones who don't. Both men and women. Attractive people have a bit of an easier time, but they too still struggle to find good people if they don't understand all of this.
With incels and nice guys in particular, the reason they struggle is because they still try to act like we live in the 50s. All of their ideas about the way relationships should work come from that time, because back then the way they act did work for men. They don't just act that way and think that way for no reason.
Many people, women especially, will criticise the PUA community and the "redpill" community for example. However, as much as I agree that many guys in those communities are absolute douchenozzles, those communities came about as a way for men to learn to adapt to the modern dating scene. It comes from nerds mainly analysing the dating scene, what makes certain people successful today, understanding the psychology behind it all. Some of those guys actually do know what they're talking about and the things they encourage really do work. I know this because I had success with it myself.
In general men are taught a whole lot of bullshit about all of this, and that's why those guys struggle. Not to mention that our culture is almost obsessed with encouraging men not to be masculine, which also makes them less attractive. If they're not taught the old 50s bullshit, they're taught to be overly-sensitive, effeminate pansies which doesn't work either.
The reason they blame women is because it's mainly a result of feminism and the feminisation of our society. Not all women are feminists of course, but that's the reason.
I think both suffer from a false sense of empowerment and entitlement. The "nice guy" helps women so he could sleep with them, and if he doesn't succeed he may become an incel; angry, bitter because he can't get a girl, spending all his time bitching about how cruel women are, even advocating that women be raped or murdered.
We'll as a nice shy loser i can explain it easily and happily do it Mylady (bows) you see all nice guys are fit into two categories A guys who don't know better and treat females horrible or act nice without any morals and category B guys who know everything whos personally are so nice and genuine it come off aa creepy asf to the point where not females could or would ever like such a man, so when you're. A nice guy you cannot win you either know everything and fail or know nothing and fail basically we are the born beta of the ape group is say born because its in our genetic we are born with less dark traits then a alpha making us kinder honest sweet caring non manipulative the exactly the thing you don't. Want and think is boring me personally i was born with - 17 i was born a legit saint i help trillions of people daily but i shall and we alway be neglected pussy and female companionship simple because i a. To kind to the point it's creepy there is so much more information on this but i suggest you research your own biological and you shall understand exactly why females hate nice guys and always will you like asshole and bullies and don't lie to yourself us nice guys always speak true and get hated for it so enjoy the rest of your day Mylady <3
We also blame females because it's there fault we are obsessed with gender roles because we like the idea of husband and wife kids etc because it was back in a religious day where every male had a female counter not 1 male has 15 trillion girls and 15 trillions guys have no female
Mylady people like us do exist we protected and sever mylady every day until we die... We also die age 40 from surcide but hey for every Mylady that dies. More will take his place
“... we lived back in the day they would be the shit when in reality they would probably be even bigger losers.” I like this statement because it is completely true for men and women. Because what we have now are bunches of educated egos out there that can’t do real things in the real world when they attempt to apply their degrees. Most of them haven’t experienced tough times or working in the trades to learn real skills before going off and obtaining a degree and lack any applications capabilities. However many “fluff” positions have been created to give these losers of today jobs to justify these worthless degrees. It is amazing how bloated and top heavy this inverted pyramid of managers have become over real talent. If we were “back in the day”, most of these high level “fluff” position careerists would be shoveling coal, serving up soup lines, or making babies. All of this stuff on this site or across the internet related to these kinds of subjects is spoiled rotten individuals that have too much time on their hands because they have no life objectives or ambition. However, don’t worry, something big and bad will happen that makes everyone cling onto life and restore their appreciation.
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Feminism is seen as something associated with leftist movement. Sometimes in modern version they are seen as a political tool of censorship. I support women's right to work, her equal opportunity, social, political equality. But I would want to support my woman financially. If she wants to work in addition that's her choice. I am loser but I understand being nice to other doesn't entitle me to sex or love.
Gender role and blaming women for everything is stupid. You can be a perfect man but deployed in a war in foreign country for years, distance ruining your relationship. You can be a perfect man but your male boss is an a**hole. Putting you in bad situation. Ruining relationships. You like this girl and she seems cool with you too initially. But you got toxic jealous 'friends' saying bad stuff behind your back. Slandering your reputation. You like a girl and she likes you too but there is another jealous guy that will beat you up or might even kill you. I don't know what utopia they are talking about in past? When in ww2 men died by millions? When kings and knights used to have hundreds of concubines? Was it really too much better?
It's because they grew up in a generation where blame-shifting was the norm - they never had to take any responsibility because it's always someone else's fault. In this case, it's women's fault.
That's complete bullshit, of course. For 90% of incels, it's their own fault (perhaps 10% have legitimate issues outside of their control that make it difficult to get women). They just don't want to have to do any work or change their thinking or take risks and fail - it's easier just to blame everyone else.
It's like someone who wants to be a pro athlete, but never joins a team or practices - because that's work, and it's hard, and they weren't born with a ton of talent - and they blame the team owners or coaches for their lack of success. The problem is really their own lack of effort and their inability to change their thinking.
Women complain about these clowns on here quite a bit. I'd say it's a reaction to supposed feminism (cultural Marxism) and the nasty attitude these communist women have. These men seem low IQ they can't quite figure out what is wrong with so many women and blame women for these problems. The actual problem goes a lot deeper but they lack the intelligence to understand that. Another thing I've notice is that there seems to be something genuinely wrong with a lot of these men they seem to thin they have a right to a mate when obviously no one does.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. RIght because women don't do the exact same thing. There is a major difference between incels and guys who are trying to make sense of women's hypocrisy. WHich group exactly are you talking about? True incels are men who hate women because they can't get laid. That's the vast tiny minority of men. I can get a girl friend VERY easily but a lot of girls out there are not what I want and more and more are a mess that will just bring stress into my life.
Fuck that, there's only one true way to be a man... as lovimg as can be, the girl knows she's free,,. nice unfortunaly is insecurity that once shows its face and the girl sees that red flag and he's exposed he uses his strenght and fear to force reactions he wants to live an illusion at her expense... but.. once a guy passes her limit, oh she's gone and look who it is.. my nice guy... the men dont mean to hurt... but he learns
Why bother with any of this? Women already get what they want till they don't like it anymore, this is nothing new. Whether a guy is an incel or not it won't stop matter in the grand scheme of things. The real question should be " should killing incels be legalized as a form of sport? ".
Hahahaha this makes me laugh, but i agree r/niceguys are something else. I hope i wouldn't be classified as this tho. Rejection is a part of life, i try to take a lesson from it & then laugh cuz most of the time i just did something stupid XD and that's funny as hell
Its because they have zero clue how women operate.. Somewhere a girl said she wishes she could find a nice guy... and they think that means an ass kissing turd farmer like they are
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