Why do girls assume that all guys are bad?

[Anonymous]

Why are they cautious around men in public? Why are guys always the bad guy?

[1truekhaleesi]

Oh I dont know. Give me a sec.

Making excuses for their buddies who are predators and rapists.
The fact that people, well actually just men, tried to make April 24th a holiday for raping women.
Elliot Rogers.
The fact that incels exist.
60% of police beat their partners.
Personally, I've had two cousins on both sides of my family viciously killed by the men who claimed to love them.
I know a lot of men who prefer to take their anger out in violent ways. It's literally a meme for a white guy to punch drywall.
The fact that you don't know who the bad guys are until it's too late.
Literally every woman I know from coworkers, my sisters, my mom, my cousins, my roommates, and all my friends, have a story about how a bad guy. Ranging from making her uncomfortable, groping her, rape and murder.
Loads of women have at least one bad story of a bad guy, but guys still wonder where all these bad men are.
I can't walk down the street without some guy getting too friendly. I have a fake engagement ring for this reason and it actually works.
My dad told me at 13 to always be on high alert as a woman. My brothers didn't have that conversation.
The thousands, upon thousands of untested rape kits because cops just don't fuckin care about rape.
If you go to police about a stalker, the police just take notes and leave. Stalker rapes her? She gets an invasive exam done by strangers to gather evidence and then police stuff the rape kit in the back of some closet and forget about it. Stalker kills her? Police all of a sudden act like they always gave a shit about this woman.
Brock motherfucking Turner and his shitty ass parents.

[grega239]

I never heard this excuse. People get their had kicked in for that. like it happened a few months ago here. Some guy tried to snatch a little girl and the police were running around trying to find him. Well the police didn't but a mod did.

Where was this holiday suggested?

Wtf does Elliott Rogers have to do with men? He was a self centered cowardly bitch who could accept rejection.

Tldr:
Yeah there are men who are scum but why am I the bad guy?

[1truekhaleesi]

@grega239 no one said you're the bad guy. Women don't know who bad guys are until it's too late. You think Eliot Rogers is trash? Congrats you're at least a decent person however he has plenty of supporters. Can you name any women killers who went on a shooting spree like Eliot Rogers and had a manifesto to go with it?

[JDavid25]

-Who makes excuses for their rapist buddies? Somebody who a little too much SVU? LOL..
-Who tried to do that? 😂😂.. That would have never happened in a million years.. You realize men have mothers, wives, daughters, sister's, aunties female friends, etc.. 🙄🙄..
-You do realize Elliot Rodgers killed mostly guys right? He killed 4 guys, 2 women.. So much for "Incel"..
-Most "Incels" are not a threat to anybody.. For one reason or another many guys have a hard time getting laid.. It's not a crime.. Even some women are "Incels".
-Those statistics don't line up.. LOL..
And well I'm sorry you bad your loved ones have been through some bad stuff, but a lot of that seems exaggerated TBH.. But go off..

[grega239]

The same can be said for women. You do t know which one is gonna fuck you over until it's too late.
Of course he has supporters. They're probably just as useless as he was.

Valerie solanis. Not only did she write a manifesto she wrote a whole book.

[1truekhaleesi]

@grega239 Thee difference is that you don't know if a woman will cheat on you, we worry that a man will kill us

[1truekhaleesi]

@JDavid25 You're a lost cause. You can look literally look up all this shit. Multiple videos went viral tiktok about national rape day. My Facebook was filled with reminders from other women to not leave my apartment. Why do we have to be someone important in your life for men not to hurt us? It shouldn't matter that I'm someone's daughter, someone's sister, or someone's girlfriend. I'm a human being. Isn't that enough?

I can easily find men that make excuses for their predator buddies. The same ones that say its in our heads. These men also say things like "I've known him forever. He wouldn't do such a thing. Are you sure you didn't have too much to drink? Did you imagine it?" to women who tell them their buddy is a predator. Or the people who make excuses for their celebrity idols like Drake and Paul Walker.

[grega239]

I don't know if a woman will cheat but women somehow know if a man WILL kill you. How do you know that it WILL happen

[1truekhaleesi]

@grega239 That's the thing. We don't know until we're dead.

[grega239]

Neither do I until my heart get broken

[1truekhaleesi]

@grega239 And you act like I've never gotten my heart broken or been cheated. I've had two cousins murdered and police didn't give a shit. Also, ACAB.

[JDavid25]

Well you made the claim so you should provide the proof in my eyes.. But I looked it up.. And from what I read "national rape day" is to "stop people from raping" basically another "bringing awareness day" for rape victims.
"My Facebook was filled with reminders from other women to not leave my apartment."
That means you and all the women you know might need some help for all the paranoia you are going through..
"Why do we have to be someone important in your life for men not to hurt us?"
Oh please you could pass a thousand men on the street and not one would have hurt you let alone look at you the wrong way.. Men hurt other men before they hurt women.. But you misunderstood the point.. Men have all of those things, and you think most men wouldn't be against something like a national rape day? 😂😂😂.. Yeah right..
As for the last part.. You do realize women have made plenty of false accusations right? And for amazingly petty reasons.. Those guys are probably defending their buddy from false accusations.. But at that same token I could say "I could find many women who laugh and even clap at a man getting his nuts cut off or ran over by his crazy ex girlfriend".. I mean that literally happened on live television.. Or joke about a man getting raped in prison..

[1truekhaleesi]

@JDavid25 You are so pathetic and it's sad. MeN won't dO SUcH a THinG. Shut the fuck up. Rancid piece of cuntflesh.

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[JDavid25]

😂😂😂😂.. Since you can't really combat anything I said you resort to ad hominem like the little big that you are.. Go sit down or take a nap somewhere.

[JDavid25]

The little girl that you are***..

[1truekhaleesi]

@JDavid25 well I could totally use a nap right now.

[JDavid25]

Good I hope you slept that funky a$$ attitude away..

[1truekhaleesi]

@JDavid25 Nope still a bitch.

[zollo]

Ha ha I definitely think like this. Not so much "all men are bad" but all men are sus until proven otherwise. Men are just scarier. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Even with normal friendly customer service interactions I try to be short and sweet with some of the male customers that start to get a little too sweet. It always starts out like
C: "Oh, you have beautiful eyes"
Me: Thank you :)
Takes order
C: "If I had a girl as beautiful as you I'd be so lucky"
Me: Oh, thank you. 😬 You're payment total will be...
Pays
C: "Me and you should hang out some time"
Me: ... Alright have a great day sir😬😬😬
And It almost ALWAYS older men. My sister gets the same thing but worse. She's the same age as me but she looks younger and she gets hit on by so many guys (which are also mainly older men which is even creepier since she looks younger) One of them bought her a snickers today, which I know doesn't sound bad but it's kind of the implication that he's a customer that comes all the time and he wants to buy her something because she's pretty and he might expect something in return. Ugh I don't know, men kind of suck lol. But at the same time obviously not all men suck, but when you live in a world where you always have to look over your shoulder it's better to be precautious than to be the next girl in the newspaper.

[roxbby]

Exactly! There are just enough creepy men out there that you’ll fear every one of them. Men are a lot stronger so if you end up being alone with the wrong one, you’re kind of screwed...

[DaMack999]

This is the mentality women grow up believing from T. V and social media. That ever man is only after one thing. But some guys can be creepy that's true. If someone can be his daughter definitely no no. But a guy around your age 3 or 4 years older. You ladies still reject them on the basis his co worker or friend.

[Crazybeeguy]

The reason why older men go for younger women, older men are more mature than young guys. When I was your age, I dated older women. I didn't have mommy issues. I enjoyed having important conversations about life, they weren't one dimensional. Plus, I treated them with love and respect, help heal the wounds and missconceptions about men. Some men hit on younger women to see if they can attract them. Women do this too, to feel young again.
Also, I would watch some shows my female friends would watch to see how they were being brainwashed. Many of them were about rape, the women being victimized it was very emotional. With guys it's scary until too late, is a B. S excuse. There are too many signs that say he's toxic but love blinds people, we are all susceptible. I have had a female friend that was abusive, I cared for her like she was my sister. She would be always spending all her free time with me, I enjoyed spending time with her. It was not always bad, just some times it was. Sound familiar? Everyone that knew the both of us including her sister were telling me she was toxic. I didn't want to believe this, I know abuse when I see it I recognize the behaviours. Then I let it go, I don't think all women are like just because of her. I just know some are like that. The thing about a customer buying her snickers and might expect something in return, does your sister like him? Also, guys that expect something in return, how? I bought you a snickers so you are my women now? I don't understand that.

[zollo]

@Crazybeeguy I don't know why everyone keeps bringing up be "brainwashed" into thinking this, my whole comment was purely about REAL LIFE experiences. These older men aren't "mature" they're properly old, like they could be my dad old. The whole buying a snicker thing is a nuance and it's hard to explain. It's kind of like how the "nice guy" troupe is, a nice guy who's always friendly to a girl and is at her every beck and call but when he inquires about a romantic relationship with her he losses it and suddenly she a bitch and a whore who would sleep with anyone but him. Obviously you can be a nice person and not have these ulterior motives but you're only a stranger to the people you meet so there's no way to know if you're that way or not. Especially because there are regulars that come back and keep being overly nice and try to buy you things. It's just the implication of "you know that I still have the complete right to reject you even though you're trying to butter me up right?" that some won't understand.

[Crazybeeguy]

I understand that, those guys are unhealthy.
I have been rejected by female friends. It is what it is. The guy needs to move on.

[WhistleForTheChoir]

So this is a pretty contradictory and seemingly counter-intuitive thing, but the male gender role was originally buily around the expectation of violence. As violence has become less necessary, the men who want to prove theyre the most manly have to do it through unnecessary aggression, bullying, chest-beating, etc. And they aren't going to stop, because the behavior is reinforced. Gender roles are meant to tell us how to act, and following your gender role will make you appear more socially adept, even if its an anti-social gender role. As these men have ramped up their posturing to prove they are the most dominant or protective or whatever, the expectation of mens behavior has gotten lower and lower. Unfortunately, the expectation of how men are SUPPOSED to act has also followed along. So we notice men who meet our expectations more. You see what you expect to see. Thats called confirmation bias and it affects EVERYONE. And most often when a man isn't following this gender role, he is viewed with suspicion (e. g. “No one is really that nice,” where 'no one' means 'no man', because we all accept that other genders can be that nice.) At best, he is seen as kind of socially inept.

[Lynx122]

Well if i was surrounded by people stronger and bigger than me I'd be pretty careful too.

[Qdbrown]

Young women always fall for the bad boys, and the bad boys treat them badly, and they assume all guys are like the guys they are attracted to.

These women don't give average guys the time of day, and pretty much ignore them because they're not exciting. They also can find a 1,000 reasons why they ignore the average guys, and try to find the next bad boy to mess them up.

If you see anything negative on their online dating profiles that say no games or bad behavior, are openingly admitting that they get played all the time. Who plays them? The bad boys. This also means they have been well used and abused. So you average guys are having to deal with these damaged women. And when they get older, they start looking for you average guys to help them pay for their lifestyle and kids they are now raising.

Avoid women with bad attitudes, especially after 30. When. Their options dry up, they start to seek you average guys to be that special man.

Don't be that special man. Run. Find a quality woman.

[KathaKomben]

Whats all this babbling about bad boys? It’s funny cause you could change the She to He and the bad boy to baddie and the shit fits perfectly.
So you mean guys who have more exciting lifes and are more attractive than you? Isn’t that something young men also look for in a woman? And only when they get older they lower their standards or date woman that are way to young for them?
You just sound like someone who’s searching a place to let all your frustrations out.

[Crazybeeguy]

@KathaKomben I have a female friend that is 23, I give her support and listen to her, I just generally care for her. I am not sexual with her, but she wants me to date and marry her. She has had said bad relationships, what do I do? I am 36, so am I to blame for her liking me? Should I stop being her friend or treat her like crap so she loses interest? Wouldn't that scar her? I didn't persue her. I give her a positive male role model in her life, so she does NOT grow up thinking all men are users, rapists, abusive. It is terrible the idea of the norm are these behaviours.

[KathaKomben]

@Crazybeeguy
Do you really think i, or any cautious woman believes every man is a rapist? I said: woman have to be careful. It’s a fact that some men think less of woman and therefore have no problem hurting them. That, you can’t disprove.
You are 13 years older than her, and act like you don’t know what to do in that situation, please. She was 7 years old when you turned 20. Get a grip.
Maybe your situation is different to the norm, that doesn’t disprove my points tho.

[Qdbrown]

@KathaKomben wow, all ready starting up with the shaming language. Doesn't matter, bad boys, or even baddies. Same bucket.

And I am an old guy. I have seen some stuff. Wisdom talking here. Exciting is not cool when it comes with drama, especially if you're paying for it...

[Qdbrown]

@Crazybeeguy dude, if it's not sexual, and she friending you up, and if you're not acting like a real couple--Run.

You're an orbiter. You're a special friend. Women have chores for special friends. Kind of like servant kind of chores. If she is not giving you her all, she never will. Go find a quality woman and let your friendzone go. You're giving more than you're getting. Don't simp to that.

[KathaKomben]

@Qdbrown
I did get a bit angry and felt the need to become insulting, and i’m sorry for that. Will work on that

And like i said, men and woman have more similar problems to one another then they actually think they do.

Oh yeah, the old wise man. 😂
You know, i work at a retirement place here in germany, and let me tell you, age means NOTHING in terms of intelligence and understanding. I have fully healthy 85 year olds that still think we’re in the 1940s, doing the hitler salute, being racist and sexist and acting like literal monkeys. While having a “sane” mind and not one problem with dementia.

But experience, yes, valid.

Can you try to write your last sentence differently so i could understand? Sorry but i’m kinda lost here 😅

[KathaKomben]

@Qdbrown

But he did say it’s just a friendship tho. Why does he have to run when he stated he wants to remain friends with her, and SHE is the one pursuing him.

[Qdbrown]

@KathaKomben hey, age serves many differently. If you spent a life not learning, you have not lived a proper life.

Of course what some people crave, is to return to the time they most miss, even if it was the worse of times. When you're not there, you only know what the history books say. For these older people it could be more than you understand. Imagine being younger and with parents, and relatives. That might actually be the impetus.

As for drama, a woman eaten up with will cause problems. They will get started with everyone around you, and will be a miracle if attorney and the justice system doesn't get called in at somepoint, much less your reputation called into question.

[Qdbrown]

@KathaKomben because it's a mismatched friendship. He is not being sexual or marriage partner. She has other plans. It has a friendzone quality to it. Most guys will sleep with any woman if given the chance. Even heavy and not the best looking. She wants marriage, and she has not landed him? Something is very wrong. Time to walk.

[Crazybeeguy]

So, what you are telling me is that men and women can't be just friends? by the way she is real cute, I am not overweight. I am 5' 11" 155lbs. I am not ugly, but I am not the greatest looking guy. I don't have a big belly, my orignal problem is I never sat still, I lived in many states. I am only 13 years older, your statement is the reason why I never dated her. I told her about the age differences, being an issue. Also, that same age difference I met another girl from Germany who liked me. She saw how healthy I was for her and appreciated it. I understand many women are afraid of men. That's why I am a firm believer in empowering women, so they can defend themselves. That including empowering them on an intellectual level, to learn what behaviours are unhealthy from men.

[KathaKomben]

@Crazybeeguy
Are you talking to me or the other gentleman? 😂 Because i very much know friendships between man and woman are possible, even with one sided sexual attraction involved.
I just said you should be able to take the right decisions and you are the one with the responsibility (in my opinion) in this situation, because she is still very young.
I’m very happy for you that you are a good looking guy, never protested that.
I just know from the experience of my parents that a marriage with such a great age difference (in their case 16 years, he married my 21 year old mum back then) and especially when she is barley in her 20s, its gonna be very hard for both sides. More i cannot add.

Good luck with your female friend, hope you two continue to have an equally beneficial friendship. :)

[Crazybeeguy]

@KathaKomben now I'm curious what kind of issues? If you don't mind talking about it or you can PM me. Or not tell me at all.

[KathaKomben]

@Qdbrown

I agree with you on the first part. 100% correct.

But your views on relationships seem kind of close minded, and you seem to separate woman from men too much.
And you assume you know every single outcome there is in relationships, but every human being on this planet is so different from one another, you can’t generalise situations like that.
Thats why i commented in the first place!
But honestly you’re not hurting anyone with your opinions (not like some other elderly gentlemen i know ;) ) so like anyone else you are entitled to your own opinion.

[Qdbrown]

@KathaKomben yes I do, even after they ride off happily after. Or in these modern ages, pose as accessories in people's lives.

[KathaKomben]

@Crazybeeguy yeah sure! I’ll write it on here if someone wants to know that as well.

First you must know that my Mum is Mexican, was born there, grew up there, you get the point. When my mum was 21 years old, she moved across the ocean for my father, who was 37 at the time and who wanted her to live in a much “better” environment, Germany.
1st problem. I think my father sometimes treated her a bit... hmm... a bit like a child, you know? Took other woman in his age more seriously than his wife, well, thats how she sometimes felt. She also had to learn German, and that’s really not easy so she was already kinda stressed, and then he “always knows anything and everything better”, no chance my mum could correct him on anything, a bit of that mindset you have with a younger student for example, and he was also very protective. In general he was a more serious and less social individual while my mum was a bubbly loud young woman who was excited because of all the “adventures” she and her husband are gonna have while living in Europe, while my dad just wanted to have a family and settle down.
Long story short.
That father-daughter, Mentor-student dynamic many couples with a big age difference have never completely goes away, which causes frustration, first in the older, more mature guy, and then in the woman, who had so many dreams and expectations and who had to learn the hard way real life is not a Disney Movie.

Well, at the end, my mum and my dad became best friends until he passed away in 2012.

I am also very sure they stopped being intimate with each other for quite a while. A bit weird for me to say but just the truth.

Of course the situation of my parents is very different from your own, but maybe these experiences helped you figure something out. :)

[KathaKomben]

@Qdbrown
Yeaaaah

You know, you have a way of writing...
it’s kind of a challenge for a foreigner to understand.

Are you referring to something in the part where i said “woman were seen like accessories or additions to men”?
I believe that was the case for a long time in history, am i wrong?

[cth96190]

Because women are by nature risk adverse, although, at the same time, women are typically dangerously lacking in situational awareness and threat perception.
They are also usually petulant children, who act out without a thought of the consequences.

Feminism has told women relentlessly for the past 60 years that men as a whole are the greatest threat to female safety and welfare.
I am no longer willing to deal with the hate and general delusion that grips most women. Unless interaction with a female is necessay while I am working, I will avoid females.
Women, fish, bicycles and all that.
We were not wanted. We heard women say that.
Women said that they wanted to be left alone. We heard that, too.
Okay, bitches, you are on your own.
This karate black belt, former soldier and licensed bodyguard will not do a damned thing to help you, unless you are the client or a fellow Deplorable.
I will take my toxic white male masculinity and fade into the darkness.
If you have a problem, call on the spirits of Andrea Dworkin (all sex is rape) and Valerie Salanis (kill all men).

[KathaKomben]

You know woman were firstly allowed to vote only 100 years ago?
Before, woman were seen as a accessories/additions to men.
It is a fact that women are the ones mostly raped and assaulted, by men. In such a situation, every second of awareness and distrust is important to protect yourself. My point is, even if a woman acts cautious while walking by you at night, why would you get mad about it and feel offended, when you know about the risks for her? You should be sad your fellow humans are at a point they need to be so careful and cautious just to not take any chances. Because there are still men out there who see women as a lower class and treat them as such. Why aren’t you mad at your fellow men who are sexist pieces of shit and rape and beat women how the like? They are the ones responsible for the distrust in woman. But nah, you rather call woman bitches.
Of course not every men is a rapist and sexist you fool, no one ever said that so i don’t know why you feel so personally attacked (even tho “we” are the ones that are called over sensitive)
So stfu about being sick of the hate and educate yourself you incel.

[cth96190]

@KathaKomben
Repeal the 19th.

[KathaKomben]

@cth96190

Good ol‘ murica 🤡

[catrchy]

Well, me personally I don't consider man scary or evil, bad or that kind of stuff, but this kinds of this are taught in family.

My mother, since I was little told me that all men are bad, I shouldn't let a boy touch me. I was playing with a boy once, I was 9 years old and my mom screamed at me: "He could've took to behind that car and took your clothes off" That boy was the same age as me. I am serious, this is exactly what she told me.

My dad always told me about the horrible things men do, abuse, rape, pedophilia, manipulation, etc. Always said to be careful around boys. He never told me that girls can abuse and manipulate, rape too.

And I always asked myself: "Why the fuck?" It's so hard being a guy in our times. My god- If you don't show your emotions you are emotionless and a bad person, but if you do you are a pussy and not a real man. If you are masculine you are considered a chad and a dumbass, if you are showing your feminine side, you are automatically gay. Goddammit- I have so many things to say, but noone will read three pages of me complaining about how poorly guys are treated.

[Ryfyle]

It's probably because no one actually cares, and thats never going to change. Society needs a punching bag.

[Unbeatable]

Read my take "why the world is on fire"

[KathaKomben]

I think your parents were overprotective because they didn’t want any chance their daughter experiences something traumatic.
Maybe your mother had something happen to her, and thats why she wants you to be safe. I know overprotective parents can be toxic and wrong, but they only wanted to make sure you’re always cautious, that’s probably why they told you so many times. Like a forced habit of being careful (hope i could express myself well enough so you can understand my points) Being assaulted in the streets is something that happens in mere seconds and if you are not cautious enough and don’t notice anything before, there’s almost nothing you can do about it after.
Don’t know how men are being a punching bag to society.
No woman ever said men are less masculine if they show emotions. Not. One.
Woman could also claim they are the punching bag of society. I mean my gender DOES get raped and assaulted more often then men, and it’s mostly done by a male. I personally think no gender is the scapegoat, Just be aware of the statistics. Of course Male rape victims shouldn’t be disregarded because of that, but you should be more understanding of why your parents were so persistent on that topic.
Being a proud woman nowadays means for some people you are a feminist monster.
But it’s both ways. People fail to realise that men and woman are more similar than they think. And if we all try to be more understanding to one another, the world wouldn’t be on fire anymore ;)

(This comment is all over the place, sorry!
Have a great day)

[Crazybeeguy]

I would, it's refreshing to see a women recogonize this. There is hope, can you make it 4 pages not 3 though? 😂

[Unbeatable]

@KathaKomben men need better treatment by their parents and community if they are to develop into the leaders the world needs

[Unbeatable]

If you want men to show their emotions more women would end up dead than right now. You shouldn't want men to show their emotion

[KathaKomben]

@Unbeatable

What in gods name are you talking about lmao 😳

[Unbeatable]

@KathaKomben what is anger. Is it an emotion?

[KathaKomben]

@Unbeatable
Anger is a mix of many emotions combined, with stress being on the top. Much stronger than being annoyed.
So?

[Unbeatable]

@KathaKomben Inability to control emotions, which includes anger, is not a mentally healthy male.

[KathaKomben]

Nor a mentally healthy female.
Still don’t know where you’re going with this. Could you be more straightforward?

[Unbeatable]

@KathaKomben Showing emotion is not going to help a man anymore than getting soft is going to help a body builder

[Inexpensivefurniture]

In my experience it's because they've been hurt or known other women who were hurt so many times that they feel it's safer to be cautious/assume bad intentions until proven otherwise.
I'm not a girl but in a small way I think I can understand the fear somewhat. I was abused, so was my mom, my sister, my niece, and at least one of my female friends that I know of. If you grow up with a parade of bad men in your life, of course you will be less trusting in the future. Is that fair to the men with good intentions? No, but it's not a conscious response.

[Slartybartfast]

Because good men are reluctant to approach, and won't unless they think she want them to.

Bad men don't care and will approach anytime, and continue to approach when not appropriate.

For every one women a good man approached, the player will approach 100(not an Exaggeration)

So women think most men are like the guy who approaches 100 women, because that's who approaches.

The more good men avoid women they are unsure want them to approach, the more women are only approached by bad men.

[Peterdivine]

I'd imagine for the same reason guys think all girls aren't worth the risk. In two words: shit floats.

Look up the video from CGP Grey on Youtube called "This Video Will Make You Angry," and now consider all the stories you've ever read or heard about men being rapists or abusers, and consider how they're statistically tiny against the larger male population- and media doesn't care, because outrage sells itself.

... Sometimes I wonder if we really weren't prepared as a species for the Internet. We actually made communication *too* good.

[ZackBan]

I think it's a lame excuse a lot of guys use.

The truth is if you handle yourself well and take care of yourself physically most girls will see you as the exception.

The reality is girls find it easier to say this is a bad guy than to say I don't like him he's not my type and so it becomes a thing that most guys are bad.

There are some girls who are a bit mentally disturbed and truly think that but these girls do guys a favor by staying away because they're generally psychotic

[ChrisMaster69]

Ignoring the rape assault stuff.

in the summer, take a walk through pretty much and city wearing a short summer dress (above knee) and heels.

in a 2 mile walk, see how many times you get cat called, someone trying to touch you (accident of course)

take some like a London tube, count how many times you are rubbed against.

have a male friend do the same, see what his results are...

Oh yeah add up skirting as well..

[RoxyFoxx]

We don't, but there's no harm in being vigilant. Even though the overwhelming majority of men are perfectly good and decent human beings, the number of men who sexually assault women is far higher than the other way around. This has nothing to do with any particular propensity in men, but is simply the result of the fact that on average, men are physically stronger than women and can overpower them easily. So, we avoid strong, young men if we're alone in a dark and isolated place, for example.

[SpiderManFan2002]

When walking alone somewhere and it’s getting dark or dark, I don’t know if a dude is a nice normal dude or a creep so it’s best to be cautious because it’s better to be safe than sorry.


Unless I know the dude from school or college or something then I won’t be cautious because I know him and I know he won’t hurt me, and if we walked together I’d probably feel safer because when another dude is around, the creeps don’t try anything with you.

[Susjsm]

Yeah because women are more likely to be raped by strangers then by people they know. /s

[SpiderManFan2002]

Eh, I love how you comment on something you don’t experience but I guess that’s just you🥰

And all the dudes I know wouldn’t do that to anyone, they respect women and when I walk with them I feel safe.

And the fear is more than solely rape, but then again I wouldn’t expect you to know that

[doopayo]

Me statistically rape the most, sexually assault the most, murder the most. What reasons do us women have to not be afraid of men. Of course it’s not all men, but it’s enough men for us to keep our guard up

[JDavid25]

It's not even most men.. Its a very small minority.. And in fact 1 in 1900 women have gotten sexually assaulted in America..

[doopayo]

@JDavid25 Where are those statistics from?

Because the cdc says that nearly 1 in 5 women have experienced complete and or attempted rape in their lifetime. 1 in 3 female rape victims experienced it for the first time between 11-17 years old. 1 in 8 female rape victims reported that it occurred before age 10.

www.cdc.gov/.../index.html

The national sexual violence resource center also proves this fact

https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics

[Crazybeeguy]

With those statistics, who were the perpetrators? Strangers?

[doopayo]

www.cdc.gov/.../nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

About half (51.1%) of female victims of rape reported being raped by an intimate partner and 40.8% by an acquaintance

Men are responsible for the vast majority of sexual violence in America

90 percent of perpetrators of sexual violence against women are men. Moreover, when men are victims of sexual assault (an estimated one in 71 men, and one in six boys), 93 percent reported their abuser was a man.

[Crazybeeguy]

Hmmm that's crazy, so 90% of cases are from someone they know and trusted them.
Do all men that have been sexually assualted by women report it? Do men think that something that might be an assualt might actually be something else? Like normal behaviour? How many of those women the 1 in 5 are repeated victims? Or by repeated assualts by the same guy? Where are the stats that say how many men that have no history of sexual assualt are new offenders? It's cool that you are a STEM student. I think women should be in that field more often

[Crazybeeguy]

*That should be said How many men have had an encounter that they thought was normal but was an assualt* not the other way around

[JDavid25]

@doopayo The CDC's statistics are misleading at best.. They were based on a telephone survey and broadened their questions to include "force sexual acts" whether they were criminal or not.. Basically it was a bias survey that loosely defined rape and sexual assault to fit a feminist narrative.. The numbers are purposefully inflated.. the NCVS
(National Crime victim survey) estimate for that year was 238,000 rapes and sexual assaults. While the CDC's was nearly 2 million rapes and 6.7 million sexual assaults. And they also were bias in how they defined Male assault and rape.. They only included acts where the male was penetrated orally and anally and not "made to penetrate" by women.

[doopayo]

@Crazybeeguy than check the statistics I sent. If you actually checked my statistics than you’d know that it also includes information on male victims. For male victims it’s also most likely a person that’s close to them as well.

@JDavid25 where did you even get this information from. The cdc never did anything to fit a feminist narrative.

The development of the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey was informed
by the National Violence Against Women Survey, and their an actual organization that works with this type of stuff.

And the difference between the statistics is that the cdc include lifetime rapes so those 6.7 millions sexual assaults where how much a combined group of women over the span of their lifetime got SA’d.

Also, I’d like to know how they where bias when they defined rape and sexual assault for men? You do realize that they are there for all genders and no one here is saying that men don’t get sexually assaulted. We’re just saying that men are more likely to get sexually assaulted by another man than to be falsely accused of rape by a women. Because that demonizes and is used to victim blame a lot of female victims of rape and sexual assault. Even though less than 1% of rape claims are lies.

It’s a problem that needs to be fixed

I’m also still wondering where you got your statistics from in your first comment cause it’s false and I can’t fact check data if I don’t know where it comes from.

We can’t forget that 90 percent of rapes go unreported. Majority of victims won’t even be calculated as a number.

[JDavid25]

@doopayo
https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

[doopayo]

The reason why the cdc got higher results is because they had a higher sample group 240k+ where as the NCVS one only had around 160k groups of people surveyed.

[doopayo]

Of course they’d get lower numbers

[Crazybeeguy]

So, 10% of American men are Sexual assualters?

[doopayo]

Go read literally all the links I’ve sent and that’ll answer your question?

[JDavid25]

No the reason why they got lower numbers is because they clearly defined "rape" and "sexual" assault" as a criminal act and not as loosely as getting drunk and having sex..

[JDavid25]

@Crazybeeguy Don't worry about her links.. The CDC is giving out inflated bias data.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch Here's something to counteract your claims. But in the end, we already know you're just looking for justification to make hasty generalization without even looking at your own gender's flaws.

[doopayo]

@JDavid25 if a person is drunk and someone has sex with them than that’s rape, they can’t consent when they’re intoxicated?

[doopayo]

@Aiko_E_Lara men are more likely to be raped by another man than to be falsely accused of rape. I’m not watching ty videos just send me articles or something if you really know so much about the subject rather than stuff you found on YouTube that fit your narrative

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And this isn't only talking about men raping other men. While women also do rape men, most of the time, they get away with it. But what they are more likely to do is to accuse men for raping which is what the video debunked and you chose to be ignorant of. So how would you know if you're really correct and if im wrong without even watching the video? As it says right there those "false accusation" percentage are those those that are PROVEN false meaning you don't know who exactly is falsely accused and unproven. But there had been many cases of men being accused and freed decades later and that's a long time. www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch like these guys proven like 25+ years later. So yes there could be many falsely accused victim who "only" have been in jail for like 10 years, 5 years, more or less (We all know even a year is long enough by our life span's standards) who haven't been proven false. Also what difference would it make if it's a youtube video that has a collection of links, empirical data and statistics with so many views and not links you found at the last page of google people even barely reach? Can you at least try to prove them wrong? Because I don't presume you're being truthful here.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And you know, I can assume some of them may not even be free and proven to be accused falsely yet. Now tell me, can a man cause damage like that to a woman as easy as women do? If you want to say society isn't equal then sure en.wikipedia.org/.../Women-are-wonderful_effect Here's a psychological study about the sympathy gap of our society.

[doopayo]

I told you to give me articles, not YouTube videos and Wikipedia pages.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Those are articles whether you like it or not. How about if I say give me real articles? Give me a reason why those videos got so many views and likes before you say no one would agree with those articles unlike Buzz Feed and Laci Green's getting so many down votes with their fake news. Also you can prove the video wrong yourself. But I see you can't do that.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But if you really like to pretend that those videos doesn't mean shit because those are just "videos" ignoring what i said saying it doesn't make a difference if those were written articles. Then sure I can just simply copy paste what is linked in the description. But really what's the difference if you just watch the video talking about all of these links?

Sources:
Crime in the United States, 2013 (FBI, 2014): https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr

Worker Fatalities Reported to Federal and State OSHA (United States Department of Labor): https://www.osha.gov/dep/fatcat/dep_f

2013 Hate Crime Statistics (FBI, 2014): https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr

Reporting Rape in 2013 (FBI, 2014): https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr
This is the document Laci falsely claimed supported her 2-8% statistic.

Crime Index Offenses Reported (FBI, 1996): https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr (page 24)

False Allegations of Sexual Assualt: An Analysis of Ten Years of Reported Cases (University of Massachusetts Boston, 2010): http://www.icdv.idaho.gov/conference/
MIRROR: https://atixa.org/wordpress/wp-conten

Criminal Victimization, 2014 (BJS, 2015): http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv

BJS definition of rape: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&ti

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 - Statistical Tables (BJS, 2013): www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fdluc09.pdf#page=24
Note: This document's definition of "rape" only includes forcible rape and excludes statutory rape or sexual acts with people unable to give "legal consent". See page 34.

109 women prosecuted for false rape claims in five years, say campaigners (Sandra Laville, The Guardian, 2014): http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/d

The First 1,600 Exonerations (The National Registry of Exonerations, 2015): https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exo (pages 3, 4, and 6)

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If you have time to read all of your articles then you have no excuse to not watch the video. You're just making excuses at this point.

[Crazybeeguy]

The point that I was bringing to the conversation, was for you to understand how they got their numbers. In statistics you can easily make the numbers look however you want because most people don't grasp the numbers. This was not meant to be a battle of the sexes. On another note, you seem like an itelligent lady. So when you are with a guy to date, just use your head and stay safe, don't let an article make you hate men. Use the information to learn what tricks men use to get laid and be safe.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@doopayo To make things easier for you and your excuses, Here's the time stamp 4:08 you can skip at that part talking about the false rape allegations. But still tho, you never explained how a Youtube video isn't an article. It's the very same thing anyone can do about your articles. The only difference is that a youtube videos filled with summaries of articles has way more views than links you posted.

[doopayo]

You weren’t even the person I was talking to in the first place. And I’m not obligated to debate or educate you

[doopayo]

And only 106 false rapes by women? You’re really using that to say it’s an issue? Men are still more likely to get raped by another man than to be falsely accused of rape by a women. You’re literally proving my point and the thing is it seems like you really don’t give a fuck about male victims because the only time I bet you ever discuss this is to counter argument men disproportionately committing rape and sexual assault

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And explain how can someone ignorant can even educate someone like me.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

After all no one is saying that men don’t get raped by other men and where did I say I don’t care about those. Back to the main post of this thread, of what you responded, a question why girls assume that all guys are bad, can I also say the same thing about you not caring about men’s issues but instead you’re still continuing to prove my point of you making excuses and justifications to just hate men assuming most of them are bad? Also also ignoring the fact that most of the stuff that makes your life so convenient, the laws for rape focusing on women and people who risks their lives for your sake are also men. That counter argument is basically for you as you’ve admitted one time that most men are dogs despite not meeting most men yourself. Hasty generalization is a logical fallacy FYI.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

With those logical fallacies and flawed arguments, how do you even expect yourself to be a "good educator"?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"And only 106 false rapes by women?" Do you not understand what "provably false" means? Those are the "proven" claims that are true. You still missed the part that proven false claims is not a quick process and it takes years, decades and even a life time. Some of them may be already dead when they got proven. As for you just want to be comfortable with your own ignorance such as not even taking time to watch some of the videos i gave. No body also has to read your articles and no body has to agree with you if that's the case.

[doopayo]

Lol ok.. I still don’t care. If you only bring up false rapes when it comes to female victims than you really don’t care about SA at all and just want to fill your fragile ego

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then you don't really care you're wrong it is fine because you still haven't proving me wrong. It also for the same reason you only brought up the provably false claims and women's issues. And with your logic, you just want to fill your ego then. But you won't think that because you like double standards do you?

[Jamie05rhs]

@JDavid25 What difference does it make whether a forced sex act is "criminal" or not? Rape is rape!

[doopayo]

@doopayo exactly

[doopayo]

* @Jamie05rhs

[JDavid25]

@Jamie05rhs The difference is that one is rape, and the other is not.. That's why the NCVS carefully defines and surveys what rape is.. So it won't be loosely interpreted and included in real rapes..

[Jamie05rhs]

@JDavid25 Give me one example of any forced sex act that is not rape.

You can't. Because such a thing does not exist.

[Jamie05rhs]

The very definition of rape IS forced sex. That's what rape is!!

[JDavid25]

@doopayo.. That can't be defined as rape because we don't know if that person consented for sure or not.. Plus most times both parties are usually drunk when that happens.. If a drunk man had sex with a sober woman would you call that rape?

[Jamie05rhs]

If you're too drunk to consent, it's rape.

[JDavid25]

@Jamie05rhs Bro read what I said.. I didn't say anything about forced sex not being rape.. I said they clearly defined what rape is.. The CDC did not.. I specifically said things like drunk sex cannot always be clearly defined as rape because we don't know how to events transpired..

[JDavid25]

@Jamie05rhs If a man was drunk but started getting at a sober woman and they had sex... That's rape?

[Jamie05rhs]

If she didn't consent, yes.

[Jamie05rhs]

@JDavid25 You said, "broadened their questions to include "force sexual acts" whether they were criminal or not."
That is what I was responding to.

[JDavid25]

@Jamie05rhs Yeah sorry I used the Time articles wording for that part.. They use confusing phrases.. 😅.. But yeah the CDC broadened their questions, in a way where drunken sexual acts that may have been consented were sexual assaults.. They asked loose questions instead of being direct like the NCVS which is the gold standard to surveying criminal acts across America..

[doopayo]

If a persons intoxicated than they can’t consent period. They see in an altered state of mind

[Jamie05rhs]

@doopayo is right.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Women have biologically developed over generations to be predisposed to groupthink and devalue the opinion of the individual in favor of their social group. This used to be a means of creating a cohesive and effective family and community but over the past few generations has shifted to creating a strong feminist ideology. You’ll find that even women that actively refute feminism still hold the opinions of their female friends over that of their family in importance. This becomes a problem when most women are actively malicious towards other women that are perceived as more successful.

Its a really interesting area of study and if you get deep enough into it you start realizing certain things about the different levels of leadership capabilities and existence in objective reality between the two genders.

[BrunetteNYC]

Having been hurt/burnt by guys who lie, lots of women become untrusting. This is a natural response to deception/pain. That said, even at times while hurt, I wasn't suspicious of the guys whom I did not like -- just super careful with the ones I did like.

[PeacefulRainDrop]

To me its people... people are bad until proven they aren't.. im not mean but im not overly nice either.. I dont trust people and I have that right.. I mind my own business my trusting self has gotten me very hurt in the past so I view everyone as a threat but give he benefit of a doubt until its proven one way or another

[AdithyaR]

It's simple, cause you never know.
Obviously they know not all men are bad, only a fool would think that.

But when a girl is walking down a street at night alone and there's a dude walking behind her, she doesn't know if he's just some dude trying to get home or a rapist. So the safer option is to assume the latter and take precautions.
If the dude is innocent, he'd just keep going about his life and there's no harm done.

[Blackcupcake]

💯💯

[FilmGuy93]

A lot of it comes from the constant shitposting other women do online about men, negative stories in the media, and the way girls and boys are treated in the education system. From a very young age, women are taught that men are dangerous and should be treated with extreme caution.

[Newhead]

The most trusting girls get used, abused and battered, go on be open and simp for men. You will learn very soon what time it is.

[Alpha09]

Oof, well said. Caution doesn't mean we hate them. Some of us just refuse to be taken advantage of simply because we weren't cautious before trusting someone.

[a12xzc]

This is really strange , as a guy when I want to talk to people online I always choose to talk to girls because I thought that guys are bad and girls are good but this is wrong because there are good and bad in both sides and there are different cultures so there are different guys and girls

[Anonymous]

just because a person’s chance of being attacked by a shark is 1 in 11.5 million, doesn’t mean they will swim in a sea full of sharks. obviously women will continue to be cautious around men even if only a small minority are actually raping/harassing/assaulting women.
but I would like to say that a lot of men don’t even realise when they are sexually harassing or assaulting a woman.

[The_Maphio]

Oh it goes the other way around too.
Honestly, I wouldn't care. If there are enough morons out there who'd rather end up single for the remainder of their lives than keep searching because "oh lawd, failing at love hurts so much!", I'd say that us humans with a backbone should be happy about it. Only decent, stronger people will reproduce and today's sickening society can be fixed in due time.