@Pumpkinspice009 I feel the same exact way! Men have become to effeminate! Where all the muscular hairy guys with beards that ooze masculinity? I like to consider myself quite a masculine guy. And have been disappointed that many woman don't find that attractive any more in fact the like clean shaven dainty guys. I just don't get it...
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Yep, and many women only find masculine men to be attractive, don’t change just because some feminists shit would tell you so
I think to me the problem lies within the fact that we can’t recognize people for being themselves.
and we have TOO much separation in society these days. And the covid six feet apart shit didn’t help either.
people end up having a problem with a guy who likes to moisturize in some cases and have all their underlying judgements on that person. Just as much as another group has all their judgements for someone looking like they survive in the wild.
I remember back when for the most part we all got along.
I don't know what’s happened to us as humans.
but knowing this. It’s all a bit sad.
like what you like. But do we HAVE to hate others for not lurking our same shit? Can’t we all just think that’s cool and that we just learned something about each other and move on from there?
I don't know why we have such discourse in our spirits these days.
Why would anyone have a problem with someone that moistruizes? Do you realize how fucking retarded that sounds? That’s like having a problem with someone that flosses and brushes their teeth and gets regular haircuts. Not everyone finds a unibrow and dry, flaking skin appealing the last time I checked.
@Jintendo18 it doesn’t change the fact that most men don’t moisturize. And think it’s a feminine trait.
Hence the original posters whole thread based discussion we have, and even the picture she included to discuss the kind of effeminate makes she sees as overly sensitive with their mannerisms. Face cream care obviously going to be one of them.
@Jintendo18 anyone quoting a survey or poll might as well just not.
You’re going full try hard mode with this now because for whatever reason the word moisturizer triggered you to some upteenth degree.
Polls and surveys will always be highly inaccurate because you can’t poll the entire world. You only get an insane random number based of an insane random variable of those who showed up for the poll.
Unless your random survey your posting specifically involves all the people here, on original posters thread. Then it’s just kind of not going to hold any weight or gravitate anyone’s opinion, to even be interested in the source material.
From what I see anything masculine gets labeled toxic masculinity and discouraged at all times. Boys get punished for horseplay. They can't talk with each other unless the conversation is examined by a child therapist. Anything a kid likes to do is under a lot of examination, and there's no way for the kid to know if he'll be punished or medicated for it. Bulldozer parents are a huge issue too. Feel bad for kids now.
Women bitched about them being hairy, smelly blah blah blah. We still exist, I don't pluck my eyebrows, I don't wear high dollar cologne, I shave when I feel like shaving. . Most days I smell like my deodorant
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This is just how a man should be, I do agree that feminists are to blame for this
I don't put up with anybody's bullshit, I am who I am and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves. Don't get me wrong, 99% of the time I smell nice, but I don't dress up particular way because people want me to, I'm a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy and that's never going to change. People should be themselves, not follow the crowd
Deliberately corrosive Cultural Marxism , pushed and funded by those REALLY in power behind the shadows worldwide & a constant anti-male barrage from the education systems , the BS controlled " media " , while simultaneously indoctrinating girls / women to view human males with disgust & contempt. My now 15 year old daughter confirms the last point , she even strongly criticized the unfair demonization of boys / men aged just 8. This is a huge psychological warfare campaign.
This is a colossal Divide & Maintain Rule push , creating division / hatred & mistrust , plus weak males = no serious future opposition to their plans. My best advice to everyone is ignore the BS lamesteam " media " and think for yourselves. Sadly most allow the " media " & others to think for them.
oh no, men are taking care of their skin so they no longer all have horrible skin and dandruff and stuff, and doing some really basic things to look more attractive. Whatever shall we do. This must really be the end of masculinity as we know it. Those damn liberals got what they wanted.
Maybe it's plastinators in plastics which are similar to xenoestrogens boys are exposed to due food packaging and micro plastic in environment? Maybe it's media with their "pretty" but less masculine idols? Generally, if I observe boys of my cousins there is a drift in goals of boys. Me in their age, I wanted to be strong, integer and competitive in sports like most boys in my class. I wouldn't say boys of cousin are feminine but they are afraid of taking risks and responsibility. On the other hand they highly cunning to obtain materialistic goods.
There's nothing wrong with making yourself look good and taking care of your skin. That's just basic shit. Many women like men who take time to clean themselves up, to make themselves look good. If you want filthy men who work rough jobs, date a farmer/big-rig driver/mechanic/wannabe cowboy/ garbage disposal worker/ construction worker/ railroad worker/coal miner/... etc. dating society changes with society and every generation, that's just a fact, but if you're looking for something specific, go look where you will find them
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I am from middleeastern. I am just jealous of western girls who can date modern western european men who dont cheat on you, respect you, give you attention, cook and care of the house with you, care of the of kid with you etc. Yes, not all western men are great but at least many young western men respect their partner and can cook and clean their own things.
You can date middleeastern men if you want hardcore masculine man lol. By the way people do skin care for hygienic and health reasons. So it is not feminine. It is also ok if you prefere dominant conservative men but you can't expect that from all men since men are invidual and do not have to be like the men you prefere. Majority of men also do not do Make-up. So i dont understand the question.
Lol people are so dumb. It's satan fault then men use skincare lmao, It's a government or corporate agenda, or it's lizard people or it's because of women.
You see when humans are doing things out there own will they turn to blame it anything else but themselves. But smart people can see the forest from the tree's. The man used skincare cause he wanted to, That's it.
You are aware this is not something that is occurring naturally. In western society, never before has roughly half of society been ok with men kissing in public, with homosexual cartoon shows aimed at kids, with saying all white people are automatically racists and oppressors and the ones that say they’re not racist are subconsciously oppressors and racist. What’s comical about that is…. it’s racism to hold such beliefs. Never before have people burned down the country in a fit of narcissistic rage and committed thefts and order was not swiftly and heavily handedly restored. It used to be people who didn’t believe in God respected the those that did instead of trashing them. We have never had transgender and gay parades. Never before have opened the borders and just let people pour in…with covid…. while telling your own citizens they must get vaccinated, yet no such demands. are placed on the illegal immigrant.
Where exactly do you think this comes from? Am I seriously supposed to believe that roughly half think these things are good. I could easily write a small novel on the odious, bizarre, and morally degenerate things going on.
Yet 20 or perhaps even 15 years ago these things were not even up for discussion.
Life in regards to norms in western society has gone on as it was pretty much from the start…until now. Then suddenly a large section of the population just went polar opposite? Like everyone around 2005 suddenly thought gay marriage was a great idea. Suddenly in like 2019 everything is racist which is an excellent tool to keep people from personal accountability and allows them to blame their behavior on something else.
Where has these demented ideologies come from all of a sudden? And you think a large section of the population just decided to radically change their minds on these things with no prompting from anyone else? And all these changes are almost literally the exact opposite of what God said to do.
You can not care about my God all you like. You don’t get to decide what truth is. Scripture would indicate this is supernatural in nature, you say it’s people doing what they want. You are correct. It is people doing what they want. They’re doing these things because they’re spiritually dead due to original sin. They love their sins and are not willing to part with them. In that sense they are doing what they want, however they are slaves to their master Satan and to sin. Satan is their overlord and sways them for his ends.
Scripture of supernatural matters don't decide the truth it's just what some people decide to follow for whatever reason. Meanwhile logical science leads to answers and truths, and not once did i see a book that said Skin care on men is Satan and why not? because that would never be true.
But you can remain deluded and yes will have to agree to disagree.
Not all of us men are feminine but usually the feminist kinda mock masculine men for decades, also with the raise of the lgbt movement in these years most people aren't technically stuck in arbitrary labels anymore. I actually happened to be a masculine male but I don't mind some traditional feminine activities like cooking and baking, they are a hobby for me but yes I wouldn't pluck my eyebrows though it looks really painful.
Look I don’t care if a guy uses skin care or plucks their eyebrows. Do I do those those things? No I’m a traditional man
But I don’t care if someone else does and I don’t think it makes them less of a man if they do.
Part of being a man is having the personal confidence and security in your masculinity that you affords you. Being able to do things not seem as traditionally masculine.
Scroll up to the dumb broads question as to why toxic masculinity is still so prevalent for an answer… you god damn women just can’t be satisfied… we’re either so masculine it’s toxic or we’re so feminine it’s “where have all the men gone”.
And with that attitude Asker can understand why men don’t need to be powerful or masculine.
You women want control take it you’ll destroy yourselves with it. Women have never been less happy in society then today and yet your more unrestricted then ever… perhaps people are meant to be restricted giving life a certain thrill… either way today’s women can’t be pleased.
Women spent years telling young men that they wanted this stupid shit. Older men like me had seen a whole generation nearly lost to this bullshit before, so we advised where we could not to fall for it.
The boys who grew up to be men, are now for the most part, happily married or paired off. The nu-men... who the hell knows or cares.
@Z3uhh75f That's what I said. But some women tell guys that that is what they want, and since young guys will do anything to get laid, they'd cut their own balls off for a slice.
I'll admit when i was a retarded young feminazi i was likely telling the world i need men to be effeminate basically but here's the catch i was retarded and young and i probably got that opinion from somewhere else.
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@Pumpkinspice009 I feel the same exact way! Men have become to effeminate! Where all the muscular hairy guys with beards that ooze masculinity? I like to consider myself quite a masculine guy. And have been disappointed that many woman don't find that attractive any more in fact the like clean shaven dainty guys. I just don't get it...
Yep, and many women only find masculine men to be attractive, don’t change just because some feminists shit would tell you so
I think to me the problem lies within the fact that we can’t recognize people for being themselves.
and we have TOO much separation in society these days. And the covid six feet apart shit didn’t help either.
people end up having a problem with a guy who likes to moisturize in some cases and have all their underlying judgements on that person. Just as much as another group has all their judgements for someone looking like they survive in the wild.
I remember back when for the most part we all got along.
I don't know what’s happened to us as humans.
but knowing this. It’s all a bit sad.
like what you like. But do we HAVE to hate others for not lurking our same shit? Can’t we all just think that’s cool and that we just learned something about each other and move on from there?
I don't know why we have such discourse in our spirits these days.
Why would anyone have a problem with someone that moistruizes? Do you realize how fucking retarded that sounds? That’s like having a problem with someone that flosses and brushes their teeth and gets regular haircuts. Not everyone finds a unibrow and dry, flaking skin appealing the last time I checked.
@Jintendo18 that’s literally what this entire thread is about.
People who don’t enjoy the lack of gruffness behind someone’s appearance.
I get the message, but the delivery is over the top. My point is that going for a gruff look is not an excuse to be unkempt.
@Jintendo18 it doesn’t change the fact that most men don’t moisturize. And think it’s a feminine trait.
Hence the original posters whole thread based discussion we have, and even the picture she included to discuss the kind of effeminate makes she sees as overly sensitive with their mannerisms. Face cream care obviously going to be one of them.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
huffpost. com/entry/men-moisturizer-survey_n_4413063/amp
@Jintendo18 anyone quoting a survey or poll might as well just not.
You’re going full try hard mode with this now because for whatever reason the word moisturizer triggered you to some upteenth degree.
Polls and surveys will always be highly inaccurate because you can’t poll the entire world. You only get an insane random number based of an insane random variable of those who showed up for the poll.
Unless your random survey your posting specifically involves all the people here, on original posters thread. Then it’s just kind of not going to hold any weight or gravitate anyone’s opinion, to even be interested in the source material.
From what I see anything masculine gets labeled toxic masculinity and discouraged at all times. Boys get punished for horseplay. They can't talk with each other unless the conversation is examined by a child therapist. Anything a kid likes to do is under a lot of examination, and there's no way for the kid to know if he'll be punished or medicated for it.
Bulldozer parents are a huge issue too. Feel bad for kids now.
Women bitched about them being hairy, smelly blah blah blah. We still exist, I don't pluck my eyebrows, I don't wear high dollar cologne, I shave when I feel like shaving. . Most days I smell like my deodorant
This is just how a man should be, I do agree that feminists are to blame for this
I don't put up with anybody's bullshit, I am who I am and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves. Don't get me wrong, 99% of the time I smell nice, but I don't dress up particular way because people want me to, I'm a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy and that's never going to change. People should be themselves, not follow the crowd
As you should
Deliberately corrosive Cultural Marxism , pushed and funded by those REALLY in power behind the shadows worldwide & a constant anti-male barrage from the education systems , the BS controlled " media " , while simultaneously indoctrinating girls / women to view human males with disgust & contempt. My now 15 year old daughter confirms the last point , she even strongly criticized the unfair demonization of boys / men aged just 8. This is a huge psychological warfare campaign.
This is a colossal Divide & Maintain Rule push , creating division / hatred & mistrust , plus weak males = no serious future opposition to their plans. My best advice to everyone is ignore the BS lamesteam " media " and think for yourselves. Sadly most allow the " media " & others to think for them.
Yeah you're right they're out to get you lmao. Fking MAGAts
oh no, men are taking care of their skin so they no longer all have horrible skin and dandruff and stuff, and doing some really basic things to look more attractive. Whatever shall we do. This must really be the end of masculinity as we know it. Those damn liberals got what they wanted.
Haha I don’t why grooming is so feminine
Maybe it's plastinators in plastics which are similar to xenoestrogens boys are exposed to due food packaging and micro plastic in environment? Maybe it's media with their "pretty" but less masculine idols?
Generally, if I observe boys of my cousins there is a drift in goals of boys. Me in their age, I wanted to be strong, integer and competitive in sports like most boys in my class.
I wouldn't say boys of cousin are feminine but they are afraid of taking risks and responsibility. On the other hand they highly cunning to obtain materialistic goods.
There's nothing wrong with making yourself look good and taking care of your skin. That's just basic shit. Many women like men who take time to clean themselves up, to make themselves look good. If you want filthy men who work rough jobs, date a farmer/big-rig driver/mechanic/wannabe cowboy/ garbage disposal worker/ construction worker/ railroad worker/coal miner/... etc. dating society changes with society and every generation, that's just a fact, but if you're looking for something specific, go look where you will find them
I am from middleeastern. I am just jealous of western girls who can date modern western european men who dont cheat on you, respect you, give you attention, cook and care of the house with you, care of the of kid with you etc. Yes, not all western men are great but at least many young western men respect their partner and can cook and clean their own things.
You can date middleeastern men if you want hardcore masculine man lol. By the way people do skin care for hygienic and health reasons. So it is not feminine. It is also ok if you prefere dominant conservative men but you can't expect that from all men since men are invidual and do not have to be like the men you prefere. Majority of men also do not do Make-up.
So i dont understand the question.
Lol people are so dumb. It's satan fault then men use skincare lmao, It's a government or corporate agenda, or it's lizard people or it's because of women.
You see when humans are doing things out there own will they turn to blame it anything else but themselves. But smart people can see the forest from the tree's. The man used skincare cause he wanted to, That's it.
You are aware this is not something that is occurring naturally. In western society, never before has roughly half of society been ok with men kissing in public, with homosexual cartoon shows aimed at kids, with saying all white people are automatically racists and oppressors and the ones that say they’re not racist are subconsciously oppressors and racist. What’s comical about that is…. it’s racism to hold such beliefs. Never before have people burned down the country in a fit of narcissistic rage and committed thefts and order was not swiftly and heavily handedly restored. It used to be people who didn’t believe in God respected the those that did instead of trashing them. We have never had transgender and gay parades. Never before have opened the borders and just let people pour in…with covid…. while telling your own citizens they must get vaccinated, yet no such demands. are placed on the illegal immigrant.
Where exactly do you think this comes from? Am I seriously supposed to believe that roughly half think these things are good. I could easily write a small novel on the odious, bizarre, and morally degenerate things going on.
Yet 20 or perhaps even 15 years ago these things were not even up for discussion.
Life in regards to norms in western society has gone on as it was pretty much from the start…until now. Then suddenly a large section of the population just went polar opposite? Like everyone around 2005 suddenly thought gay marriage was a great idea. Suddenly in like 2019 everything is racist which is an excellent tool to keep people from personal accountability and allows them to blame their behavior on something else.
Where has these demented ideologies come from all of a sudden? And you think a large section of the population just decided to radically change their minds on these things with no prompting from anyone else? And all these changes are almost literally the exact opposite of what God said to do.
You are aware i don't care for your god or satan Bs. It's called people doing what they want, not satan or god. Personally accountability learn it.
Imagine having a brain were men use skin care = Satan. Thank god i ain't u.
You can not care about my God all you like. You don’t get to decide what truth is. Scripture would indicate this is supernatural in nature, you say it’s people doing what they want. You are correct. It is people doing what they want. They’re doing these things because they’re spiritually dead due to original sin. They love their sins and are not willing to part with them. In that sense they are doing what they want, however they are slaves to their master Satan and to sin. Satan is their overlord and sways them for his ends.
We will have to agree to disagree.
Scripture of supernatural matters don't decide the truth it's just what some people decide to follow for whatever reason. Meanwhile logical science leads to answers and truths, and not once did i see a book that said Skin care on men is Satan and why not? because that would never be true.
But you can remain deluded and yes will have to agree to disagree.
And i do wonder where in the bible or these so called scriptures it say's wearing skin care = bad lmao.
Not all of us men are feminine but usually the feminist kinda mock masculine men for decades, also with the raise of the lgbt movement in these years most people aren't technically stuck in arbitrary labels anymore. I actually happened to be a masculine male but I don't mind some traditional feminine activities like cooking and baking, they are a hobby for me but yes I wouldn't pluck my eyebrows though it looks really painful.
Look I don’t care if a guy uses skin care or plucks their eyebrows. Do I do those those things? No I’m a traditional man
But I don’t care if someone else does and I don’t think it makes them less of a man if they do.
Part of being a man is having the personal confidence and security in your masculinity that you affords you. Being able to do things not seem as traditionally masculine.
Pfft. I don't do that shit. I don't even wipe after taking a crap! Masculine AF.
As you should 👏🏻
Society has made it unpopular for men to be men and not be effeminate.
Talk shows like the view and other women led shows criticise males who are anything but soft, emotional or groomed.
Not everyone feels this way, but the optics on what women want via social media and TV and magazines lean towards a softer fella.
Again, not all people feel this way, like yourself, but I feel there is social pressure on guys like girls to look a certain way
Scroll up to the dumb broads question as to why toxic masculinity is still so prevalent for an answer… you god damn women just can’t be satisfied… we’re either so masculine it’s toxic or we’re so feminine it’s “where have all the men gone”.
I’m done with women… you can’t be saved.
With that attitude I’m sure you won’t be missed. 🎻
And with that attitude Asker can understand why men don’t need to be powerful or masculine.
You women want control take it you’ll destroy yourselves with it. Women have never been less happy in society then today and yet your more unrestricted then ever… perhaps people are meant to be restricted giving life a certain thrill… either way today’s women can’t be pleased.
Women spent years telling young men that they wanted this stupid shit. Older men like me had seen a whole generation nearly lost to this bullshit before, so we advised where we could not to fall for it.
The boys who grew up to be men, are now for the most part, happily married or paired off. The nu-men... who the hell knows or cares.
Fags blame women
@Ksiw3fiss Such bitterness... yummm. Put that in my coffee.
Effeminates are disgusting
@Z3uhh75f That's what I said. But some women tell guys that that is what they want, and since young guys will do anything to get laid, they'd cut their own balls off for a slice.
Lmfao well those aren't men i want ir respect. They need to grow hair on their nuts already.
I'll admit when i was a retarded young feminazi i was likely telling the world i need men to be effeminate basically but here's the catch i was retarded and young and i probably got that opinion from somewhere else.
What they fuck you talking about? Stop dating fags.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/fhKdpKrF3xMThat's what happens when a devil worshiping "red shoe" frilly BLM pulls a gat on an average white guy...
Love it. I need him.
@Gt68hgt so you can strap up and fuck his ass, you'd turn this guy into a peter puffin fairy in a week guaranteed.
Because femoids bitch about guys being, shockingly, guys and call decency toxic.
This is just sad, even sadder that men actually pay attention to what they say
Nope, Thanks to feminism and leftism actively trying to destroy men.
Sadly agree
Why do women no longer have the femininity/dependent/nurturing/home-oriented to them?
I think the real question is: why do you expect people to follow this traditional bullshit? Just let people be themselves for crying out loud!
Lol I am not, I’m strongly against feminists, I’m a sub and like how everything was back then
Yea of course
You dummy, I’m only a sub to my hubby not a fag stranger like you, get a life pussyman
Also fuck off before I block the shit outta you, faggot