Could be true. But I don't know in general. Being a guy who's not good at typically "manly" stuff. It's harder to be acknowledged but that's nothing to be generalized.
This is something you really need to experience to "get," but yes; we do believe it. We have life experience with it. Men are free to do whatever they want, but it comes at the cost of having no one care what happens to us.
@Cheechee4me See, this is the kind of thing we're talking about; the first place you went was dismissal of my feelings. Have you ever considered the possibility that maybe what we're saying is just... I dunno... true? That maybe when a man opens his mouth, it's because things have become unbearable, and despite the culture of emotional suppression for men in Western society; the men have needs? As women like to say; have a little more empathy.
I had a lot of empathy until men like you stopped having any empathy for anyone else but yourselves. Now go sit in a corner alone and listen to Coach Red Pill persuade you you’re the only one who has problems. dismiss enough and eventually you’ll get dismissed.
@Hallo626262 no actually I’ve had a pretty rough life. I don’t want any sympathy though. It’s made me a more compassionate person. That’s why I have very little time for people who consistently root for one gender or group to fail, be hurt or downgraded. That’s what men are doing online now. It’s okay though- keep defending only one side. You’ll just continue to prove my point. I stand up to bums all the time who would like to see me dead just because of my gender. To be homeless, to commit suicide just because of my gender. It’s absolutely unacceptable. It sickens me.
Despite how hard my life has been, I still consider myself very lucky for the few things that I have. While all I hear is ungrateful, oblivious brats. It’s just too damn difficult to give a shit about anyone but yourselves.
@Cheechee4me non of what you write makes any sense. Men have way higher rates of suicide and homelessness. You started with being one sided. You need professional help.
@Hallo626262 I have already given you proof that men do not have the highest suicide rates. Shame on you for being okay with anyone committing suicide. Especially if it’s just because it doesn’t fit your agenda.
@Hallo626262 no sorry Halo, I haven’t. I backed my stats up with the source. It’s a very well respected source. But just keep telling yourself you’re the victim of society and shut out everyone else. It never turns out very good in the end though.
@Hallo626262 no sorry it wasn’t random. It was backed up by stats. You’re just upset because you’re a victim who met a survivor and felt shame for their selfishness. You’re also not taking into consideration with male suicides on how boys are raised. It’s fairly old fashioned in fact. Guys are raised around and taught how to use guns more so than women. women are raised to be kinder and gentler. So really you’re blaming society for having old fashioned standards on raising girls and boys. Why do you people never think? I could resort to name calling because your arrogance and lack of thought deserve it. I won’t though.
@Hallo626262 why are you so okay with others committing suicide? Why would you want ANY group to have higher suicides? You dismiss and dishonor the deaths of others all the time. Why do you expect it will be any different for you? See this is why I don’t like people anymore. They blame and are selfish. It’s a vicious cycle. They complain about the same things they do to others everyday. Grow up.
@Hallo626262 yes I absolutely did give evidence. I quoted the articles and the source. Then another user quoted and provided even more data to prove my word as accurate. I’m not sure if you’re mentally ill or what. However, it’s very clear what I’m saying is true. If you aren’t mentally ill, you don’t even deserve to be considered human due to your selfish ideas.
Unconditional love means you find something inherent to the person So charming that nothing... could ever make you doubt your love for it. I think only men are capable of unconditional love because like you said it is a dangerous thing. Fire is dangerous too, and its also a miracle.
I think that’s ridiculous. And I’m really shocked to hear Chris Rock saying that. Maybe he was being funny.
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Statistically speaking, it's true. Women are more likely to divorce in general as well as the risk of a divorce happening if the wife gets a raise at work but not the other way around.
The red pill is a joke. They talk about how it's the "hard truth" when in fact it's literally the easiest thing for them. If you believe the red pill, nothing, literally nothing is the men's fault.
They are single? Red pill tells them it's because women only like toxic men. Their date went wrong? Is because women always trick men for free food. They cheated? It's not their fault. It's because their woman didn't satisfied them. The woman cheated? It's because women can never truly love a man.
It's never EVER their fault. Perfect example here. If they believe women can never truly love them, they have no reason to be vulnerable and an excuse to treat them as they like. Because in their heads, doesn't make a difference, they will never be loved anyway.
Yes. Believe it or not, men have more responsibility in society and your value is determined by what you can provide for others. That's just the way it is.
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Absolutely the truth.
Lost my high paying job, wife was gone with it.
Men are disposable utilities for women to use and discard. I'd been better off if she had poisoned my coffee.
you're better off without a woman like her
Could be true. But I don't know in general.
Being a guy who's not good at typically "manly" stuff. It's harder to be acknowledged but that's nothing to be generalized.
This is something you really need to experience to "get," but yes; we do believe it. We have life experience with it. Men are free to do whatever they want, but it comes at the cost of having no one care what happens to us.
Yeah okay. Probably don’t even know how good you have it.
@Cheechee4me See, this is the kind of thing we're talking about; the first place you went was dismissal of my feelings. Have you ever considered the possibility that maybe what we're saying is just... I dunno... true? That maybe when a man opens his mouth, it's because things have become unbearable, and despite the culture of emotional suppression for men in Western society; the men have needs? As women like to say; have a little more empathy.
I had a lot of empathy until men like you stopped having any empathy for anyone else but yourselves. Now go sit in a corner alone and listen to Coach Red Pill persuade you you’re the only one who has problems. dismiss enough and eventually you’ll get dismissed.
@Cheechee4me you're the most priveleged being on earth.
@cheechee4me Nobody is dismissing you. We're asking you to pay us that same courtesy.
@Hallo626262 no actually I’ve had a pretty rough life. I don’t want any sympathy though. It’s made me a more compassionate person. That’s why I have very little time for people who consistently root for one gender or group to fail, be hurt or downgraded. That’s what men are doing online now. It’s okay though- keep defending only one side. You’ll just continue to prove my point. I stand up to bums all the time who would like to see me dead just because of my gender. To be homeless, to commit suicide just because of my gender. It’s absolutely unacceptable. It sickens me.
Despite how hard my life has been, I still consider myself very lucky for the few things that I have. While all I hear is ungrateful, oblivious brats. It’s just too damn difficult to give a shit about anyone but yourselves.
@Cheechee4me non of what you write makes any sense. Men have way higher rates of suicide and homelessness. You started with being one sided. You need professional help.
@Hallo626262 I have already given you proof that men do not have the highest suicide rates. Shame on you for being okay with anyone committing suicide. Especially if it’s just because it doesn’t fit your agenda.
@Hallo626262 oh it makes perfect sense. You just don’t want to listen.
@Cheechee4me you just wrote random bullshit that's factually wrong.
@Hallo626262 no sorry Halo, I haven’t. I backed my stats up with the source. It’s a very well respected source. But just keep telling yourself you’re the victim of society and shut out everyone else. It never turns out very good in the end though.
@Hallo626262 no sorry it wasn’t random. It was backed up by stats. You’re just upset because you’re a victim who met a survivor and felt shame for their selfishness. You’re also not taking into consideration with male suicides on how boys are raised. It’s fairly old fashioned in fact. Guys are raised around and taught how to use guns more so than women. women are raised to be kinder and gentler. So really you’re blaming society for having old fashioned standards on raising girls and boys. Why do you people never think? I could resort to name calling because your arrogance and lack of thought deserve it. I won’t though.
@Hallo626262 why are you so okay with others committing suicide? Why would you want ANY group to have higher suicides? You dismiss and dishonor the deaths of others all the time. Why do you expect it will be any different for you? See this is why I don’t like people anymore. They blame and are selfish. It’s a vicious cycle. They complain about the same things they do to others everyday. Grow up.
@Cheechee4me you never gave any evidence go away with that bullshit and I really don't care about US specific things anyways.
@Hallo626262 trash human.
@Hallo626262 yes I absolutely did give evidence. I quoted the articles and the source. Then another user quoted and provided even more data to prove my word as accurate. I’m not sure if you’re mentally ill or what. However, it’s very clear what I’m saying is true. If you aren’t mentally ill, you don’t even deserve to be considered human due to your selfish ideas.
Unconditional love means you find something inherent to the person So charming that nothing... could ever make you doubt your love for it. I think only men are capable of unconditional love because like you said it is a dangerous thing. Fire is dangerous too, and its also a miracle.
If a man loved unconditionally there wouldn't be divorces or dogs tossed out like trash. Or kids flat out abandoned by their fathers and even mothers.
*if people loved unconditionally
fixed it for you
I'd say parents love their kids unconditionally.
Maybe most kids love their parents unconditionally. Outside of that our relationships have conditional love.
No one is loved unconditionally. You gotta get a better understanding of what unconditional love is.
I think that’s ridiculous. And I’m really shocked to hear Chris Rock saying that. Maybe he was being funny.
Statistically speaking, it's true. Women are more likely to divorce in general as well as the risk of a divorce happening if the wife gets a raise at work but not the other way around.
I’m pretty sure that’s not how statistics are used
I've got both of them right here
www.sciencedaily.com/.../150822154900.htm
www.bbc.com/.../20200121-why-promoted-women-are-more-likely-to-divorce
Dogs are a yes I’ll very late abort a child before getting rid of my dog
No. No one loves unconditionally. Unconditional love is a myth. Not even God loves unconditionally.
I don't agree with it. Not even children are loved unconditionally these days because some mothers kill theirs before they are even born.
Since when has an unborn baby ever been a child
It was a comedy show! It's not to be taken seriously.
And the idea that men are not loved unconditionally is completely wrong. Of course we are.
Well I hear a lot of red pill male accounts saying the same thing
Me too. They all parrot the same things.
The red pill is a joke.
They talk about how it's the "hard truth" when in fact it's literally the easiest thing for them.
If you believe the red pill, nothing, literally nothing is the men's fault.
They are single? Red pill tells them it's because women only like toxic men.
Their date went wrong? Is because women always trick men for free food.
They cheated? It's not their fault. It's because their woman didn't satisfied them.
The woman cheated? It's because women can never truly love a man.
It's never EVER their fault.
Perfect example here. If they believe women can never truly love them, they have no reason to be vulnerable and an excuse to treat them as they like. Because in their heads, doesn't make a difference, they will never be loved anyway.
i think the only people that should be loved "unconditionally" are babies/young children.
Men who have been unsuccessful with women think that. Not all children and dogs are loved that way
I’m lucky to have all three. That I will love unconditionally forever
Yes, I believe it and agree with it I remember that special and that joke specifically,
Yes. Believe it or not, men have more responsibility in society and your value is determined by what you can provide for others. That's just the way it is.