How Is it true that only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally, and men are only loved under the condition that they provide something?

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MCheetah · Accepted Answer

Because us men are the worker drones of society and literally always have been. We had to fight bears, die in wars, die in unsafe factories, and get killed in any other number of ways, just so the women could survive long enough to give birth and the children could survive long enough (assuming the mother didn't die by childbirth) to have the kids grow up and do it all over again, ad nauseum.

I'm not belittling our struggle by admitting both women AND men have had a sh*tty time for literally most of human existence. The modern day and age of science and technology is less than 100 years old. It's not until only the 1940s or 50s did society ever get to a point where the average everyday man could go, "Yeah, I think I'm good!" in regards to survival and being able to actually live an easy life for the first time in civilization.

... And even THEN, it was only in rich Western countries, like the US. Much of the world even in 2021 still has a pretty miserable existence, although places like India, Brazil, rural China (not the CCP B. S in Beijing), etc, are quickly catching up to modern 21st century technology, convenience and medicine.

Women got their "sexual revolution" in the late 1960s, where they were told they didn't have to marry a man or be a wife in order to life an okay-ish life (even though being a wife still made their lives far easier than a man's, and generally most women who don't end up with someone end up becoming unhappy and bitter after the age of 40). But men never once got their revolution to be free and allowed to do what they want.

Even MGTOW is seen as "toxic and misogynist" to the biggest retards in society, even though it's literally the male equivalent of the 60s women's lib movement and would be playing into these dumbass feminists' "goal" of "dismantling patriarchy," as MGTOW men opt out of the male gender roles of being a provider to women and children, and usually don't even have kids. If feminists weren't dumber than pig sh*t and contradictory and hypocritical in everything they do, they'd be LOVING the idea of men going their own way as it's completely complimentary to the goals of third-wave feminism. It would make their lives easier. But fortunately, feminists ARE retarded, hypocritical and dumber than pig sh*t, so it doesn't matter much.

But in general, we're in their weird transitional period in human history where women no longer have to serve their traditional gender roles of being a wife and barefoot in the kitchen, but men are still expected to serve theirs. I expect we'll get our chance soon enough, once all this woke bullsh*t finally dies and feminism finally dies with it.

But until then, still expect society to follow the double standards of men being the workhorses and treated like sh*t 24/7 as that's out traditional "gender role," while women get to sit on their asses and "Yes, slay queen!" all day long, until Millennial Karens finally start dying out because no one wanted to breed with their miserable asses and the women who do have kids are happier, more family oriented people who'll lead society into a brighter tomorrow.

And yes, there WILL still be kids and families and stuff; just like women's lib and feminism didn't kill off the nuclear family in the 1970s. So don't worry about things when men finally get to opt out of being the slaves to society that we are, and robots (not women; as if I'd say that!) are doing all the hard work in society that men traditionally would have had to do.

TL;DR: Society still needs men, doing men's work, even if we don't still need every woman popping out babies for our species' survival, anymore.

How Is it true that only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally, and men are only loved under the condition that they provide something?

And look on the bright side: Things are in reverse in the bee society. Male bees are useless and whiny nothings of creatures who get pampered left and right, while all the females do all the hard work in the hive, and never get a day off, and the queen is the slave to all of them.

rjroy3 · Accepted Answer

What's to say men don't conditionally love women for sex/affection? Would you love a woman who wasn't showing you affection and not sleeping with you? If so, I'd question why you're pursuing that woman at all.

If not, is this not conditional love?
True unconditional love is rare. Additionally I'm going to use a quote from I forget who and I'll probably butcher it still but it's relevant.

"Love is 9/10th in the Lover and only 1/10th in the object"

The experience the feeling of love emanates from inside you. The object is only about 1/10th of that Love. You could have that exact same feeling and experience with another person.

Most people develop their Love for someone they have something to gain. That gain could simply be companionship, love, affection and this is what most people call love. When the only thing you ultimately want from them is the love/affection/companionship.

But it's more than that for damn near everyone. For guys we want companionship, love, affection, sex, the girl to be a certain standard of physical attraction, usually some degree of chef.

Women want guys love, affection, companionship, attention, protection, resources, sex. We all want something. The end value is choosing partners who want the same thing as you and loving them not just for your benefit but for their benefit aswell.

hi_it_is_me123 · Accepted Answer

How many of you do love single mums or women in their late 30s or old or fat or ugly or mental ill or non virgin (/promiscuos) women unconditionally? Whenever there is a question about single mums, many male gagers trashtalk single mums. You dont have to date single mums but stop hating on them. I also saw some men on gag who would leave their partners when their women dont shave anymore. So where tf is your unconditional love? Stop lying. Be honest! I would not love anyone unconditionally and i dont expect anyone to love me unconditionally but i dont lie. Stop selling women a lie. You can have preferences but if you say you would love someone unconditionally, then this means you would love a woman whose past does not matter even if she abused her exs. This also means that you have no preferences.
So another mgtow/redpill bullshit.
In conclusion, unconditional love means that you love someone no matter what. So this means you would love someone even if this person cheats on you and abuse you as I said before. Be also original. I have seen this bullshit topic among gag males/ youtube mgtow incels ten thousand times on gag.
Then no self respecting person should love anyone unconditionally.
I will get hate again. Nowdays telling facts makes you get dislikes. You can hate on me, i dont care but i can't stand this mainstream lie by mgtow incels who are no different than feminazis.

SillyDaffodilly · Accepted Answer

It's what society has been spoon fed for centuries. Choking down the b. s. that men are of no worth unless they contribute, work themselves either to riches or death. That they are not allowed to be seen as weak like crying or having "feminine" emotions. Men are just as emotional as women. They feel the same crap we do and because they are raised to not be wimps or express themselves with any sign of weakness they have built up aggression by repressing how they feel because they were raised that way. Later on down the road they get in a relationship and like in all relationships, they feel safe and comfortable enough to begin to let go of some of this and show that darker side by allowing themselves to cry releasing years of pain, confusion why they shouldn't be allowed to let go like this, and really open up. In most instances it creates a stronger bond in your relationship but there's always a cold one out there who was also raised that men are not to be seen being "weak or fragile" a shame them even more. Societal pressures to be strong, family pressures of success, relationship pressures for higher income and the perfect guy is really what's making the suicide rate of guys higher than girls. It's not fair and it's truly sad.

Brainsbeforebeauty · Answer

First you saying men aren't loved unconditionally is false... Second to act like women don't provide "anything" is also false... So this whole post is nothing but a falsehood🤷

AmandaYVR · Answer

God, no!  I appreciate men who provide nothing for me except friendship. And that alone is valuable.

aWes0MeNeSs · Answer

I don't know if I believe that. Maybe for some people, but I know there are definitely a lot of people who feel unconditional love for their male partners and family members.

Screenwriter · Answer

Women loved unconditionally? I don't think so. Dogs aren't either If a dog barks too much, it's back to the rescue organization. If it pees all over the house and no training stops this habit, or it bites everyone, it's outta there.

There are always "conditions." An animal needs to be cute and pleasant. A woman should look good on your arm and be able to carry a conversation.

Children? The worst transgressors! It's hard to love a crying baby that wakes you every night because of colic. You tolerate it because the colic isn't an affront to you personally, and it will pass.

The unconditional part is, you brought this kid into this world, so you'd damned well better support that child to the best of your ability to give it a good start in this world.

But there are always conditions and lines that you can't be pushed over. It happens they are different for every person.

Adam1978 · Answer

No one is loved unconditionally. Just with low expectations. You don't expect much out of a dog. But there is situation where the dogs actions would lead to you terminating it or get ride of it. There is always a line. Unconditional love is stupid so no one has it. Human has higher expectations out of their partners.

Qdbrown · Answer

Most guys don't believe this until they are forced to leave their home and the family court takes it all away, to justify to give to the kids, but it generally always goes to your Ex and her new Chad boyfriend so he doesn't have to work while he bangs your Ex, and your kids have to fend for themselves.

CookiesAndCream2 · Answer

@roy_ricky09 ... Oh I forgot women & children who are abused either mentally, physically, or sexually - starved, beaten, raped, etc. - are "loved unconditionally". Dogs who are beaten, abused, drowned, kicked, buried alive even, etc... they're "loved unconditionally" too.

Society, which says the opposite, must be so completely backwards in your mind.
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Love is conditional.

PinkMichae · Answer

If any of that was true women, children, and dogs would never be mistreated, neglected, abused, disrespected, and on and on.

Point is no matter your race, gender, and age, it won't stop you from being loved with conditions and not unconditionally.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Biology. Women have innate value through reproduction (women are far more invested in it then men are), children and dogs both act on our innate desire to protect (as do women) through neotenous biological traits. Men don't have those (or at least not nearly as many as the other three) and we have no innate value so we have to produce in order to be valued and loved.

Starrisunset · Answer

This isn't true, at least not in the situations I've experienced or seen. I've seen situations in which the man sits home while the woman works, takes care of the family and pays all of the bills. While I don't agree with either person having to provide everything, I've seen it happen both ways.

Azura_88 · Answer

Women are only loved in a condition : if she is well behaved, caring, keeps low tone while talking, is calm and not aggressive and most importantly gives painful BIRTH to a child.
I will say only children are loved unconditionally : They can be abusive, demanding, violent, jealous and have bad intentions but will still be loved like they're something precious.

oddwaffle · Answer

Sort of. Men without job, work, education, looks and money tend to kill themselves.

You know what happened when a working guy turned into a cripple? The 1st thing to go away is his dignity then his pride. If he can't somehow prove to himself that he isn't worthless or that he is more than just his body then he will loose his life next.

Prof_Don · Answer

Because that is how males are in every species. We have to establish ourselves, define our sense of self, and contribute to society somehow, in order to be seen as valuable.

Women bear children so they are valuable in themselves.
Children are the future adult citizens, so they are valuable in themselves.

K-I-S-S · Answer

As a guy i can see why it may seem to be so.
There are plenty of good women out there that expect very little from men.

Majority of cases men are expected to a certain level to be a man and etc. Not very drastic extreme but it is biased towards it.

Birdlegs · Answer

You should specify “in today’s society as a whole” that’s a macro scale thing everyone will nitpick and talk about the micro scale

kannettava · Answer

Love is never unconditional. Even dogs who probably aren't capable of love themselves are required to give company and obey their owner in order to be loved.

he-takes-a-part · Answer

Its changing with time
Hopefully with women in workforce and getting voting rights they have started to realise the hardships mens face so now its changing in this era. You have an observation and that is definitely the reality even today but yes with time its changing.

ohshee · Answer

Because men are so far back in time you have to thank God for making a dog reason why he gave man a dog was to teach him how to love unconditionally otherwise women and children would be just like the r in 2021 and men would still be cavemen

Anonymous · Answer

Children are loved unconditionally as a matter of biological necessity. Everything else is conditional. Love is an emotion, and as with all emotions it's an unconscious situational reaction, not some mystical force.

Romantic love is a product of physical/chemical attraction and behavior that's beneficial to you. Period. Once the person is no longer a benefit or no longer fulfills your needs, love vanishes. Men and women just have different needs to be fulfilled by the other

karaspara · Answer

I don't think that's true at all I love my son , brother and father unconditionally and that's just for a start

JesseJayNeak · Answer

Yes, it's true. Motherhood is way more valued than fatherhood. Baby girls are more valued than baby boys. And a woman's emotion is more valued than a man's evidence. No matter how much you spin it, if you're a man you can't win. You'll have everything against you

J2ohhhhh · Answer

How contradictory it is that the historically more dependent ones would be only able to love unconditionally? Ancient Greeks said that true love can exist only between two men. I think in 2021, as women get more independent they also learn to love without interest, but the greeks had a point.

Bee-Hatch · Answer

No its not true. If you believe that you've never been in a good relationship

FictionalCharacter · Answer

I try to give men the same love and emotional support as a woman and child. But they really don’t like that. They just want their own space and be left alone.

Anonymous · Answer

Pah!

That might not even be true for children and pets like cats and dogs.
I have personally known girls and mothers, who sack in child support money for themselves, neglect the kid, don't work and act like everybody owes them something. As for pets, they have kept them when they were young and cute but neglect and forget about them as soon as they grow up.

Be careful!

Massageman · Answer

It's possible for none, any, or all to be loved unconditionally.  Regardless of sex and social stature, many relationships do come with "strings" attached, that is , a conditional relationship.

Interstate · Answer

Any female who says this to you isn't somebody you want around. She is obviously a user, and isn't somebody you need in your life.

Loveydove · Answer

It’s not…. Not sure who told you that. Maybe try finding the right woman and she will make you feel unconditionally loved 🥰

Hanrej · Answer

I don't know about that. I think we put conditions on our love of women as well.
And no dog would ever recieve unconditional love that bites a Child. (bang!)

I suppose in a way not even children recieve unconditional love since we all expect them to one day shoulder responsibility as adults.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

It's perhaps because traditionally a man is expected to be good for something - not only ''being there''?

loveslongnails · Answer

Your premise is NOT true as I see it, so I can't make any sense of the statement to answer it.

Alwayreckles93 · Answer

A wife should always live her husband. If she lives her husband for another man then clearly means that she isn't ready to be a wife.

mobiusforniner · Answer

I know some dudes who sit on their asses while their wives are making the money... so...

Miristheiss · Answer

False. Children are loved unconditionally. Adult relarionahips you are loved conditionally.

Anonymous · Answer

It is false because men are never loved merely tolerated

Rebecka33 · Answer

Good point however in my situation I provide by working providing half income.

Andres77 · Answer

It can seem like that. It's very circumstancial.

Anonymous · Answer

Men don’t respect that which they didn’t have to earn through hard work, effort, and sacrifice.

SuccessfulHornDog · Answer

Because they are all cute and we are... not so much

Dchrls78104 · Answer

The reality of life in America, as far as I've heard.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Yes. Men are only loved for as long as they have utility, provide resources, and have an appropriate level of social status.

NoLookingAtSoleil · Answer

That's kind of how they condition men in the 'developed' world - to be denied acceptance unless they accept - and glorify - slavery

yourbabygirl921 · Answer

I don't know in my culture it's very patriarchal and men are favoured and bias

MadameAphrodite · Answer

For me this situation is reversed lol. I love unconditionally and am taken advantage of because of it

Anonymous · Answer

Absolutely true, and anyone that tells you otherwise is lying because they have an agenda.

Goatmeal · Answer

Yes. Otherwise the way society treats men would be completely unacceptable.

OddBeMe · Answer

Also, why is it ok to just be moral to get into heaven?

Babygirlsweetheart1 · Answer

Men are the leaders. I want to be a cherished loved pet to my future man. He has to provide fully.

Jayded1 · Answer

I have never heard this and it doesn't make much sense to me. I have never seen this. Also, cats > dogs.

Twalli · Answer

Dogs are the only beings that can love unconditionally. Generally all it requires for their love is food. Food can be virtually anything it will eat.

PeacefulRainDrop · Answer

Not true for my man and my close friends

Anonymous · Answer

This question again? Really?

SupremeWarlord · Answer

Men are loved unconditionally by their mothers, wifes and kids :)

Aquariusmystery · Answer

I don’t think that’s true.

boggboss · Answer

I dont think they are loved unconditionally lol

WowwGirl · Answer

Because men should be the leader and provider

Anonymous · Answer

It  isn't  true.

Archerer · Answer

No, it's only dogs.

grega239 · Answer

Very true. Always has been.

red_knight · Answer

I guess that question answers itself

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