Do you think dating is unfairly harder for men?

[Anonymous]

Think about it, a guy hitting in a girl is seen as bad. A guy approaching a girl on the street or supermarket is seen as wrong.

On here I’ve been criticised for being single. Which is weird when you read the first statement.

I agree it’s unfair for men

I disagree

[PrettyPriya]

Criticized on this site? Hmm, this is your first question. Anyhow, how is it unfair? You are saying it is because you cannot approach a girl while she is just trying to mind her own business and shop for groceries? That is a bit backwards.

What is unfair is that we have to be hit on all the time just going about daily life. Your example is very poor. If you had said "approach girls at a club" that is different. You have to look at the environment.

Why do you think anyone (male or female) would want to be hit on at the market? Same goes for the damn gym. Why is it that we are subjected to advances while trying to do everyday things?

This question sounds like a "woe as me" post. Why don't you just approach girls where it is acceptable instead of bothering us when we are just trying to do our weekly shopping?

[Asker]

But guys don’t hit on you anymore like that as we know we can get done for making conversation

[Asker]

Did you approach your husband or did he approach you

[PrettyPriya]

I am not married. I approached him. I was the one that asked him to have lunch for a first date.

[Pot8o]

It's so fucking easy to complain when you never have to make a move yourself. Most women are such massive cowards they would be incels if they were born male.

[PrettyPriya]

@Pot8o Can you not read? I asked my now fiancé out first.

[Agape93]

Seems reading comprehension isn't his strong suit. And they wonder why I dont date idiots

[Pot8o]

1) For you it was a choice, for guys it's a necessity
2) It was ONE dude
3) It was a dude. Guys are thirsty AF, you're facing a minuscule chance of rejection

[Agape93]

Oh cry me a river. Verdammt, you guys bitch about having to put forth effort but us rejecting a guy can get us killed or worse.

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 sounds like we need the waaambulance for this sob story.

[Agape93]

Or a rescue boat with the river of tears he's making

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 🤣🤣🤣

[Agape93]

Shit, dudes complaining about having to do the bare minimum is annoying as fuck. Entitled little bitches

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 If women don't like violent guys, maybe they should stop targeting them like a fucking heat-seeking missile. Whenever there's a high-profile murderer who gets sent down, he gets swamped with prison fan mail from horny women. Whenever there's a bully or gang leader or dictator, you can ve absofuckinglutely sure that women just love him and want to jump on his dick.

[Agape93]

We don't target them you dolt.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 You sure AF do, I've seen it my entire life. That guy who beheaded a journalist on his submarine had THREE adoring girlfriends attend his trial. One of them was a fucking female corrections officer who had fallen for him while he was awaiting trial. A 16-year old girl struck up a relationship with him.

If you want personal experience, I know a guy who is a Nazi sympathizer and thought the Utøya massacre was a good thing. He is the most popular guy I have ever met with women. He's been with hundreds of them. He has had multiple stalkers.

[Agape93]

Good for them, that's called mental illness, something you're familiar with it seems. Mental illness or being duped by a psycho does not mean we target violent nutjobs like you people keep claiming.

[Pot8o]

Domestic violence cases are the deadliest callouts for police officers. You think those chicks ended up with the violent tattooed asshole by accident? They fucking sought him out, and every time people tried to convince them to leave him, they refuse.

I'm tired of being a good guy only to see women enthusiastically breed with complete jerks and send the world further to shit.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 So what you're saying is women are overwhelmingly mentally ill?

What I'm telling you is fact, and you can stay in your dumbass arrogant feminist echo chamber or you can admit to yourself that maybe you don't know shit about what it's like for men to date women, and you can fucking open your mind like we have done when patiently listening to your feminist screeds our entire lives.

[Agape93]

No, as i already said, that's called being duped. Tricked. Bamboozled. Fooled. Nobody seeks out abuse you half wit.

Fun fact, no good guy calls themselves good guys, only entitled shit heads do. Actual good guys are just good guys and don't need to advertise it.

You seem to think this is a debate, it is not. I'm telling you you're wrong. It's not up for debate

[Agape93]

Nope, I'm not saying that. That's just your empty head trying to mix the truth with your bullshit.

Oh boo hoo you fucking baby. It's not hard to ask people out. Sure you get rejected, that's life. Suck it up. Your life isn't at risk by asking someone out, getting called a creep or being rejected. Fucking child.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 Lol you can't handle the truth, so like every idiot feminist ever, you double down on the shaming. You hate toxic men, but when men express that dating is difficult, you aggressively shame them for showing these emotions, for being weak. Well, you have gotten exactly what you want. You're more likely to be asked out by psychopaths because psychopaths don't have feelings, so they're not too weak for you. Enjoy the dynamic you yourself created, you dumb cunt.

[Agape93]

It's called perspective. At worst you get your feelings hurt, at worst for us, we can be raped and murdered because idiots like you can't handle rejection

Enjoy your lack of sex. Verdammt I wouldn't blame women for not being with you.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 Women have had thousands of generations to breed rapists and murderers out of the population. Yet you all flock to true crime and villains in romance novels and tattooed bullies and then you cry about the world you built. So dumb. That's what happens when you use your vagina as a GPS.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 And newsflash: Those toxic guys you love making babies with kill more of us than they do of you. Men are far likelier to be murdered than women are, but they probably skipped that in gender studies.

[Agape93]

You can't breed out behaviors you stupid shit kicker lol that's not how it works. Seriously, go back to school, you need it

[Agape93]

Most of those who rape women are men, most murders of women are men, most murdered pregnant women are by the spouses they trusted. Don't try and flex kid, you won't win.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 Please stop broadcasting your ignorance. Behavior is majorly genetic.

[Agape93]

Lmao no, no it really isn't 😆 behavior is learned by socialization. Behaviors are learned.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 Lol this is what happens when you get your knowledge of biology from sociologists.

[Agape93]

Far better than your knowledge of biology from the University of straight out of your ass. Get an education kid. At least I passed my science classes.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 I'm clearly more knowledgeable on this topic and you're parroting ideology. Which is fine. As a woman you don't need to be smart to survive and reproduce.

[Agape93]

You say you are, but you seem to think behavior and actions are genetic, which is not at all the case.

[Agape93]

But hey good job showing us how you actually view women. Typical incel nonsense.

[Pot8o]

@Agape93 It is the case, your ideology just didn't tell you this, because it turns out your ideology is really shitty at modeling the real world.

Lol back to the shaming. Feminists: "stop harassing us". Also feminists: "hahaha you loser you can't get laid".

[PrettyPriya]

@Agape93 wonder if he can provide some actual facts to back up his claims. Like accredited sources or studies, rather than some rubbish opinion.

[Agape93]

He can't because it doesn't exist lol this is what happens when education fails people, they make shit up or read it on some blog and think it's true.

[Agape93]

Sooo news sites, not actual accredited sources.

[Pot8o]

www.sciencedirect.com/.../S0191886913012245

[Agape93]

And a link to a study pointing it out to, again, either being tricked or having mental illness. Evolutionsbremse

[Pot8o]

www.jax.org/.../the-genetics-of-violent-behavior

[PrettyPriya]

LMFAO 😂😂 I'm going to mute this post. I can't watch anymore of this nonsense. Pointing to a few individual cases to generalize all women. Pathetic 🤣

[Agape93]

Lol for the best. He keeps cherrypicking shit without reading it xD I'll be doing the same, I've had my laughs for the day

[Agagagagaga]

“ Why don't you just approach girls where it is acceptable instead of bothering us when we are just trying to do our weekly shopping?”

Where is it “acceptable”? Is there a designated “ask me out” location that men should be aware of? If so I’m sure the men here would all love to know.

[LazerBean]

I've been hit on, and I've also been approached randomly. Neither of those things are bad, and I have never heard a woman in real life call those things bad.

[Anonymous]

Yes and no. My only real complaint is women don't understand that guys have to work just as hard for bad women as they do good women. And so there's no indication which they are when you meet them. So after about 10 bad women you just don't want to do it anymore. The problem with women today is feminism has twisted gender roles. So now women say they want equality. But still hold wanting men to fill traditional roles. It's thoer having thoer cake and eating it to attitude that pushes guys to the point where they just decide there's nothing in it for them anymore.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

Not sure becuz we're better equipped for it as guys. Complaining because men and women are held to different standards when men and women are so different from each other seems weird 2 me. I don't see why people are complaining about double standards when men and women are so different unless they don't think they're so different.

[Pot8o]

It seems weird to me that we have a society where three times as many men kill themselves, yet we still talk as if men are privileged and have it better.

Wouldn't they choose to stay alive if that were the case.

It's just a bullshit feminist narrative, and for that reason I'm tired of the status quo.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

@Pot8o Yeah but I also read that women attempt suicide way more often, like 2x to 3x more. They just suck at it! It's like they try to overdose on pills or slash their wrists while a guy blows his entire head off with a shotgun.

I'm just down for us guys though. We step it up. Gung-ho! Who cares if the world is unfair? Man tames the world. The world isn't supposed to tame man. The man tames the unfair world; he makes it the way he wants.

[Pot8o]

Yeah, but to me that reads like they just want attention, which is fine, but how come guys can do their research on methods and women can't?

[ZXCwWRQWz]

@Pot8o Women got all sorts of problems of their own. But I think if a man is to be defined by anything beyond muscles and athleticism and a specific type of wisdom and intellect, it's ultimately in responsibility. Man takes responsibility for weaker men, women, and children in a crisis. Women usually only take responsibility for children in such situations (although they can supersede men in the nurturing type of protection).

I don't find that a problem. I didn't design the universe. What I was born with were muscles and shit and a gung-ho mentality and male ego, and I don't take any shame in that. "Toxic masculinity", WTF.

But I see guys nowadays and they don't even wanna hold doors open anymore for women because they encountered some dumbass feminist who interpreted it as a sign that women can't open doors when that's the last thing such a guy intended, and he probably even held doors open for guys 7 feet tall. That's just what guys do. We're awesome.

But the guys who say they stop opening doors for women are weak. Why let some rare dumbass feminist allow him to abandon his masculine values? That's weak AF. Just laugh off her stupid ass and keep holding the doors open. That's what man should do if he's really invested in being a good man, a protector, a conqueror.

Let women bitch all they want. Don't let their bitching change your instincts as a man.

[Pot8o]

Why should I conform to a traditional gender role when women don't? I have taken responsibility for women, and it's never been a good deal for me.

Right now guys are bravely dying in Ukraine to protect women. Is that a good deal for those guys? I don't think so. The women they're protecting will forget about their sacrifice and find some asshole to procreate with.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

@Pot8o It's probably not a good deal from an external perspective but the guys defending Ukraine got an internal deal. If fighting and dying for shit isn't its own reward then it becomes all about winning and less about fighting. It's like only participating in a sport if you're bound to get a trophy. Most people don't unless it's some feminist-dominated sport where everyone gets a participation medal.

[ZXCwWRQWz]

@Pot8o It's that internal reward that makes men. Like John McClane in Die Hard. That's totally unfair! Why is a random cop -- let alone on Christmas Eve when he's supposed to be on vacation -- stuck in a building having to save hostages from a terrorist takeover? He's not even on duty. This is supposed to be his vacation and he has enough shit going on trying to get back together with his estranged wife. But this is a situation where he turns his back and the world turns to shit, so he faces it. And it's not fair, it's not fair. It's extremely unfair but he accepts how unfair it is and tries to make the world a better place and takes responsibility for it, and he succeeds. That's badass (even if he failed). He doesn't complain about how unfair it is because he's not concerned with measuring the world or his life in absolute terms; he's thinking about how to relatively make both better.

[boggboss]

I simply don't see the point of comparing it to fairness or not the world ain't fair why expect dating to be so just work with what u gor as complaining about it won't help

[Summeroflove]

Both men and women have advantages and disadvantages. If a woman is one sided. I loose interest pretty fast and move on to someone else

[JustinTheGreat]

Men hitting on women or approaching them is not seen as wrong unless the way you do it is inappropriate 🤷‍♂️

[TroyDT2]

Approaching women is seen bad by whom? That is what I always do.

[Yyyyu]

Personally approaching is not bad. It is just they should leave after we say no.

[BLP11520]

From what I hear and read i thinking dating right now is hard for both... way to much emphasis on sex and not developing relationships.

[IHateBeingaMan]

never was a fan of it

[Anonymous]

Ya but there is no such thing as fairness

[Anonymous]

Yes I do, but what can we do about it?

[Agape93]

Nope.

[Iron_Man]

Yes it is