Do you blame Andrew Tate for teaching young men toxic masculinity?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I don't agree with everything Tate says and I understand some of the things he says may be a bit absurd or rude. But this notion that he's a toxic male ruining the minds of young men to hate women is stupid. Andrew Tate never advocated for guys or men to beat women or treat them like shit. He never said a woman should just cook and clean at home and not have a career. He calls out feminism and it's bullshit. You want to find the truth about feminists, listen to the responses, replies and post women or fake accounts of women posing as males talk with pro-feminist extremist talk. Andrew Tate is probably the top 15 or top 20 men out there receiving hate out there. Tate said ideally he wants his woman to be a stay at home mom where he takes care of her. But you know what behind closed doors I don't truly know what he's about. He may be abrasive but he's straight forward and he discusses things in a logical, thorough way. Tate is not racist. I've seen women who are feminists that are racist towards Muslims and those same women who support those racist females don't seem to care. But women nowadays are more catty, more manipulative, play the role of I want my piece of the pie but also feel sorry for me BS. Women these days want the best worlds -- I want the status of women should be treated in traditional ways (ex: chivalry, to be courted, get attention) but I also want to be a ball breaking, independent woman. A female's personality in today's era is awful and women just believe anything they read or see on television so it distorts her mind. As a guy, I want a loyal, pure woman.

She can have her own job, her own life, if she wants to spend time with her family or have a girls night that's okay. But I don't want some drunken ho of a girlfriend or wife to be doing stupid shit. If a girl reads this thinking I am being Mr. Oppressor, you will want the same thing with a guy that he doesn't do stupid shit. Here's the thing, women like to be controlling and society normalizes that in TV sitcoms and movies, when men do it he's viewed as a psychopath. No one should be controlled. Fuck the equality bullshit. Because if women can't take accountability, don't bring up equality then because both won't coincide with each other.

DaveJord · Accepted Answer

No, I do not think you can think you can blame any one person for speaking their truth.

Bottom line, Western Society was created by white males... that's just a blatant fact. Now white guys are not perfect, and we fucked over a lot of people along the way and in that regard, history is against us. Or is it? Nobody in that lives in a Western Country are trying to pack up and leave, they all live under the protection and freedoms that have been fought and paid for in the blood of young peoples of all types, but none more than white guys.

At the end of the day, all our heroes and role molds have been canceled out or silenced... no body promotes white males as role models any more... that's just a fact. Everyone can come out in public and take pride in their culture and heritage these days, but white guys... when we try, we are condemned as racists, sophistic, homophonic...

I love how they successively labeled it as toxic masculinity, when in truth it is positive masculinity. It literally not okay to be man and proud of it, hetero and proud, white and proud. But it's okay for everyone else to be proud of who and what they are, and not only proud of it but mainstream it. White opens his mouth and he is silenced by the outrage, by people addicted to their own insecurities and outrage.

AmyHew1tt · Accepted Answer

I blame society more. He's one of the only people telling guys it's okay to be a (biological) guy, even if he's doing it kind of wrong. They need someone as a strong example as much as anyone, and no one else better is stepping up to the mark.

jennifer_bloom · Accepted Answer

No man or woman is perfect but Andrew Tate likes to exploit the imperfections and failures of others for personal prestige and financial gain. He adds no value to society, he just makes money promoting hate and disrespect.

FilmGuy93 · Answer

The part that really sucks about that whole situation is that no one wants to talk about the fact that if Andrew wasn't talking to those young men, no one who was any better would be in his place. Because that's what allows an Andrew Tate to become famous; he's speaking to people that society has chosen to ignore.

The thing about role models is that we have to work with the role models we're presented in life. A young boy might grow up in a place where his only role model is the neighborhood crack dealer/pimp. And like most human beings, that crack dealer is going to get some things right and some things wrong.

Not an ideal situation, to be sure, but that boy's alternative is nothing and nothing is a hell of a lot worse for him than the mentorship of a crack dealer. That's the kind of situation those young men are in, when it comes to Andrew Tate.

Anonymous · Answer

I think he's right in a lot of his statements. I think it's great that he encourages men to be masculine, it's really needed with the pandemic we have of feminine men in 2023.

He's a whole better rolemodel for men than a lot of male celebrities.

BUT, some things I do not like about him is that he encourages men to have multiple women which I think is wrong. He also tells men that they are losers and not real men if they're not rich. I think that's completely wrong as well. How much money you have doesn't determine how much of a man you are in my opinion.

Another thing I don't like about him is that he is very materialistic. He wants a lot of women, and the most beautiful ones, he wants a lot of cars and the nicest and most expensive ones, he wants a lot of money etc. To me it seems like he's mostly focused on the materialstic things and not on God. I think it's wrong that he teaches his sinful ways to men and says it's the right lifestyle.

I do not like how he blasphemes God either. For example he said once that if God sent him to hell he would simply refuse, meaning that he thinks he's more powerful than God. WRONG.

I also think he's a male slut (pimp). He said in a podcast or interview (same thing? I don't know) that he has slept with over 600 WOMEN. 600? That's disgusting.

Overall, the real sigma and masculine man is Jesus. That's the best rolemodel and the person men (AND WOMEN) should strive to be like. Not Andrew Tate, Christian Bale or any other sinful human.

Lionman95 · Answer

I don´t think Andrew Tate is the problem because even if he was he is just the tip of the iceberg. The problem I rather see that we live in a culture where you probably make good amount of money telling guys how to be a man.

Andrew Tate is the most entertaining of them so he´s well known but the problem is rather a social problem. Many guys don´t have healthy rolemodels in their life growing so they look for something else.

Another aspect is for me personally that it sometimes doesn´t seem clear what part of masculinity isn´t toxic.

inhua · Answer

no absolutely not. people are looking to scapegoat this problem which isn't really much of a problem anyway onto someone else rather than look inwards to themselves.

fact of the matter is andrew tate isn't teaching anyone anything new or revolutionary that we didn't already know. the difference is there is a famous person now at the forefront of manosphere who speaks in a way that most people are simply too soft to handle the truth. this is how he does it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3DLQAByqQcY

keep in mind andrew tate preaches stoicism and free thinking thus if he's brainwashing young men to be free thinkers, is that really a bad thing?

NathanDavis · Answer

truth is... only an inadequate, immature, incompetent person would ever listen, entertain and actually believe any controversial and right down stupid that guy has to say

it is NOT true that he is molding youth, it is not true that he is teaching new generations, it is also NOT true that that normal, sane and competent people out there are changing their minds and becoming toxic masculine men

the truth is that only someone who is already an idiot... it is going to watch this way more famous idiot and they are NOT learning, they were already biased and then they're just reaching for the echo chamber that they so desperately need in their online lives

tiajoka · Answer

Blame him? Lots of men were being stupid long before Tate… But i think he normalized it and has been misleading men. There’s a toxic narrative being spread by the media; I fully agree. But Tate just takes the men who say, “Im not like that dont feel like that and this makes me feel bad” And turns them into the kinda men they were offended to be compared to in the first place. Better to turn to Jordan Peterson or a pastor, or someone whose actually moral and good, and promotes healthy relationship with a man’s masculinity and his role in society and his family as a man.

Anonymous · Answer

They keep demonizing and ruining every male role model that comes along and it causes each consecutive one to get progressively more and more vocal, controversial unapologetic and abrasive. Even outside of male/female relations. Remember when George Bush Jr. And Mitt Romney were “fascists”? That brought about Trump. Remember when Jordan Peterson was “literally Hitler”? That brought about Andrew Tate.

On a side note, women seem to be demonstrating far more “toxic masculine” traits than I see in the majority of men these days.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

The question is weird. I don't begrudge Tate for his grift. If a bunch of dudes are willing to give you money and support simply for telling them how to be masculine, make that money while you can. Shoot, I would do the same thing, if I was being sent free money.

This term "toxic masculinity" is weird. I don't know who created it or really understand what purpose.

When I think of the term, I divorce it from all the political nonsense it is used for. And I think of it simply in terms of what men are supposed to bring to the community/society that they live in. They are supposed to provide, bring stability, and create this environment for families to survive and thrive.

Toxic masculinity would seem to be the behaviors/beliefs that destroy stability or prevent families from being able to survive.

But not many folks seem to be able to talk about things in a rational manner.

TheUniqueOne96 · Answer

No.

People have been crying about toxic masculinity before anyone even knew who he was.

I'm not saying I agree with everything he says, but he's basically telling men to be traditional, think logically and be the best they can be.

Anyone who questions or calls out the modern feminist crap will be called all sorts of names.

He's even says men should protect and provide for women and given some of the deluded standards some women have, you can't say they don't agree with those parts, because they're 'old fashioned', despite not being traditional themselves.

Whilst I'm not traditional myself, tradition has worked for many throughout the years and I do think most will be happy with it, although the exceptions also have the right to live their life how they want too e. g. homosexuals, unmarried couples, childless couples, etc.

abc3643 · Answer

Do you mean the recently arrested for human trafficking so he could sexually exploit 6 women Andrew Tate? THAT Andrew Tate should be executed or, at minimum, spend the rest of his life in prison in Romania where he'll eventually be sexually exploited, if you know what I mean. I don't know if they have Vaseline in Romania, but he's going to need it. Here’s how to beat toxic men like Andrew Tate Without urgent intervention we may end up with a lost generation of young men

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

I put no. I mean compare it to the messages being sent by some rappers, that a lot of my peers seemed so obsessed with when I was younger. It glorified shit that will get you in jail fast... sort of like Tate is right now.

Tate's message had more to it than just pure evil-sounding shit.

ShadezMcgee · Answer

I don't know much about Tate or care about him, but no. I wouldn't blame him alone because there are plenty of other YouTube users that said the same things.

Keishio · Answer

For all the recent things that have come out about Andrew Tate it doesn't take away the fact that there was some truth to some of his statements. Some were total batshit but that's a matter of opinion

bean2k21 · Answer

I blame GaG. Their algorithm favors questions from pinkos, which exploit stereotypes about the male gender. The penis size questions, like the one asked by @purplepoppy today are intended to emasculate and humiliate us. In addition, they have suppressed my religious belief that I am the Lord and Master of my slaves and own their vagina as property.

Anonymous · Answer

No, I don't. The things Andrew Tate says and teaches are just encouraging guys to respect themselves and do the things that make them strong, confident and valuable to women and society. The only reason he is accused of "teaching young men toxic masculinity" is because he doesn't toe the feminist / liberal party line.

So many males today are raised to be soft and un-masculine, and a society without masculine men is one that is heading for disaster. We as a society need to stop shaming men for being masculine. We should be encouraging masculinity, not discouraging it, because a strong, healthy society cannot endure without it, despite what feminists and liberals believe.

Tate is part of a movement to combat the effects of feminism and revive masculinity in the face of very unfavorable odds. It is in the interest of ALL of us, whether some of us realize it or not, that the efforts of Tate and people like him succeed.

Lynx122 · Answer

There's literally truckloads of grifters who make a living off young men who are frustrated, disillusioned, having trouble in life, not doing well in dating etc. And a lot of them wanna get you to vote conservative too lol. I never heard of this guy everyone started talking about him. But 10 years ago there were people doing the same thing already.

douride2 · Answer

Why is besides one article in the news where this guy is arrested & charged. GAG is the only place I hear about this guy?

Subarugirl · Answer

I blame Tate for taking toxic behavior and relabeling it as masculinity.

TacosRAwesome · Answer

in my opinion men who are interested in Andrew Tate and similar already have an inner toxicity.

jshm2 · Answer

Eh... he's going to regret that video, as Andrew Is getting convicted for various crimes, where those teachers are not...

The issues with Andrew isn't his "teaching" but the fact he got where he got, through illegal and nefarious means. But tried to preach "do as I say, not as I do."

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