What would you do if the woman you were with wanted to abort an unwanted pregnancy. Would you try and stop her? How? Would you leave her if she aborted it?
+1 yI feel like most anti-abortionaists are hypocrites (not all but) a lot od the time.
I feel that if you view baby as an extension of a females body (1 entity who has her own rights) then the female can of course decide what to do with her own body - or chose to engage in a healthy medical procedure that could potentially be life saving ahead of time if she choses to - its a no brainer.
And the other camp that views the female, and the embryo (or what could be non-scientifically considered a "fetus" later on after several months) as a separate entity with its own set of rights.
In the 2nd example of 2 entities each with their own set of right existing - we have to treat it as such.
If ever I needed access to someone elses body to prevent my own death (say I needed a persons blood, bone marrow, kidney, uterus, etc) if the other person provides consent - no problem. But if I as a person go in and organ harvest a kidney, steal bone marrow, or occupy part of another persons body without their consent AT ANY TIME - even if they initially agree to allow me use at the stsrt but change their mind halfway through the process of whatever it is that person is consenting too to have their body used for (permanent or temporary - could include consent to sex, organ transplant, blood donation, or to have part of her body in use by another person - that first person has a right to take away that consent to their own body to the other person at any time - doesn't matter how inconvenient that is to the other person or not - tough shit for the second person if that's inconvenient).
Thats all there is to it. So I am of course pro-choice as that is the only rational choice in my opinion (and legally in Canada, most of Europe, and slightly under half of the states in USA). Its just the redneck states that can't seem to figure out that woman are people and have a right to equal rights as the males in those states. Someday they may get there - but 2023 is not that year yet.
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Currently is around half of the states in the USA since the overturn of Rowe v Wade - which will most certainly be turned back within 10 years as nearly every country outside the USA views that as one of the dumbest things we've seen a developed country chose to do in ages - I find it irrational that so many people in the USA would actively campaign and vote in congress / senators to make it illegal for a 9-12 year old girl who may have been raped by her father or close family friend - to have to carry the rape baby to term - even when trained medical doctors are telling the child and the care takers of set child and police enforcing this lunatic law that this will with 100% certainty kill the little girl who is pregnant way before it is safe/healthy to be so & the baby will with 100% certainty still die anyway. How can people in the states possibly think that is the best system they can possibly strive to achieve as a society?
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Alternatively - in rest of the developed world where science is practiced and education is taught in school past a "Jesus made the world in 6 days from a floating sky daddy narrative" - a simple medical procedure from a trained doctor can revent the girl from having her life desteoyed feom something she it too young to even consent to - or did not consent to most times - and she can live. What happened to "all life is sacred" the so called Christians love to preach? Or is it just the lives of males who are sacred in the eyes of a christian? - they're mostly hypocrites much of the time. They're all against it until it happens to their little girl. Then they sneak across to a state where its legal REAL quick.
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Missing the point. You can never revoke care from a child. Just because you gave birth a child under no circumstances can you just not feed it because you no longer consent to feed it. Nor can you kill it to not have to feed it. The only way to remove your responsibility is to give it to another party to care for. While a baby is inside you, that is not an option.
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@21Cowboy21 I really wish to fuck you abortin zealots could entertain the idea that people can be opposed to abortion for non-religious grounds. Yes, moron, that means that even atheists can be pro-life.
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I'm for abortion, but I'm not for abortion being readily used as a recreational contraceptive. A man, knowing he deosnt want a child, should not test the waters by leaving it in, plain and simple. If he does, he has no reason to be mad about what a woman does with a child he didn't want to begin with. After all, its he that didn't pull out, or that chose not to use a condom. Next, modern women seem to be increasingly sexually reckless as a result of hook up culture, and the various new ways women can prevent pregnancies. Too often, women don't take into account how horrifying an experience it is to have an abortion. We know its not a good thing, because an abortion isn't something you would give someone else as a gift, but so many women in the west have become so detached from the fact that an abortion is killing something that would otherwise grow to be a fully functioning human being, that its being abused left and right. So I can see why there are now men that are anti Abortion, because of that unfortunate fact alone. I don't know off hand the percentages, but it's staggering how many women have abortions today simply because they can. That being said, most people that are anti abortion, often don't base their stance on the full picture. Abortion has to remain avialable to women because of the obvious grey areas such as rape, and the multiple other instances that preganacy can go undetected until its too late for other options. Plus, I dont believe every woman should be a mother just because she's capable of having a child. Lastly, I wouldn't put myself in the situation you described, because I'm aware of how many women use children as way to gain leverage over a man. But say I did get a girl pregnant, wanted to keep the child and she didn't, I would leave if she aborted it because the baby would be the only thing keeping me there.
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Related but unrelated;
Abortion should be treated like murder. Illegal unless you have a really good reason. Especially with how hard it is to get "accidentally" pregnant and how small the percentage of abortions that are done for rape or life saving is.
And if you abort a baby your partner is willing to have sole custody of; you are a vile, foul piece of 💩.
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@marish01 Thanks 😊
The fact hardly anyone does is why there's this false perception that we're some unified front for abortion as women. When that couldn't be further from the truth.
That's also how they make it a "women's issue" instead and everyone issue. Since as far as I know, everyone is born and more than women are involved in the process. - +1 y
I agree they are a piece of shit , selfish pieces of shit , I knew a girl that got raped and she wasn’t sure if she wanted to keep the baby or not , she decided to keep it and she said it was the best decision she ever made , she couldn’t live with the fact that she was going to murder her baby and now her baby is the love of her life , How does someone honestly live their whole life knowing they murdered a child? It’s not the babies fault on whatever happened to her , if she clearly doesn’t want the child then put it up for adoption
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+1 yI would hope he would. One ex and i talked about a hypothetical rape situation and he told me that if i DID NOT abort that he would leave. Like okay, bye because the baby wouldn't have been going anywhere. He was against abortion but for it in cases of rape. Im against it no matter what 🤷♀️
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1.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Tough question. I am not religious but there is an aspect of a life being snuffed out that is hard to totally ignore. My own resolution is to think, as a guy, I don't have skin in this game and I abstain myself.
If it was my child I would have skin in the game. If I saw myself being with this woman for the long term my view would most likely be stronger to having it. If I saw it as a not so long term I might feel relief. I might not think she would be a good mother.
Overall I would see myself as having some say but not the casting ballot.
As to leaving or staying I think this situation would put the relationship in stark relief. The decision might be we should not be together after all.
10 Reply687 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I'm the father? Hell yeah , Id leave.
Abortion is not just something that everybody some how just " gets over " , the aborting individual female will never get over it , she might not realise that , but that's the facts , you are destroying a life , possibly because of your own short comings , selfishness , or financial , under the gize of " It wasn't the right time for me " , sorry that absolute sht , also there is no way that its just in the hands of one person , too many others are to suffer.
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u +1 yUnlikely at my age, but. . .
You are talking about a current abortion and not an abortion she had in the past?
If so, and you are asking about her aborting a child that she conceived with me, yes, I would break up with her if she killed my child. I could never forgive her for that.
If so, and you are asking about her aborting a child that she conceived with someone else, yes, I would break up with her as soon as discovered she had sex with someone else. I could never forgive her for that, either.
10 Reply 1.7K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I'd have to, I've seen what was is like, it makes me sick I wouldn't be able to be with someone who so casually threw a life away. I'd never be able to look at them the same.
And I'm not shaming the women who do get them it's their right to get one if they want but it's also my right to not want to be involved with someone who gets one.
And there are situations where it may be a valid option such as the mother dying during the birth or the mother and child dying during childbirth if the child isn't aborted. Situations like that are different and understandable.
But to be used as a general form of contraceptives' because the child is a inconvenience or something like that I just find that sickening.
Like I said it's their choice but it's also my choice to not want to be with someone who did that for that reason.
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+1 yI think most women would have a very , very good reason if she wants to abort a child. I am for a women to have the choice. However, even when I have had animals ( my pets) get pregnant, I just could never abort the babies. I guess if I was the father or I heard of another couples case, I would try heaven and hell to convince them or my girl to keep the child. If the mother does not want it, they can put it up for adoption. But killing an innocent baby just seems like a waste. I have just not been able to do it. But in the above case it depends on the reason the girl wants to abort the child, if the reason is valid i'll stay, or I would be shocked and probalilly leave the girl.
00 Reply5.5K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. If by some strange fluke or twist of the imagination that I found myself in that position, she would not be wanting abortion as we would have a shared worldview.
Terminate the child terminates the relationship because I sleep next to a premeditated murderer who thinks abortion is a birth control tool and means like that horrible Singer who came up with this to eliminate the growth of a particular rac50 ReplyIf there were a medical reason why, such as the mother dying as a result of the pregnancy, then no big deal, in most other cases, I wouldn't be on board. I would prefer to give the child up for adoption. If my wife chose to abort the child l, I wouldn't leave her, but things would be quite rocky and I wouldn't likely try to have any other children.
10 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. To me it would come down to the context of her relationship with me. And whether or not she promised before hand to keep it or not. If I was to end up the god father or the literal father and she didn't at least give me the heads up about the aborting it. I'd feel like its a gross overstepping of communication and I'd probably drop her like a burned loaf of bread. there's a certain level of trust that has to go both ways.
00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Most would it's not really a subject one just suddenly changes their mind on unless they are actually dickheads who only care about it effects them so they all sudden say "Oh but this is different." just to promote her girlfriend getting one yet they've said the whole time they are against it.
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+1 yYes.
There’s no reason to abort a baby, the only reason any woman should be aborting a baby is…
if she will die trying to carry the child
She’s a minor under 16
She was raped
Or the baby has serious health problems.
You don’t just abort a baby because you don’t want it, you can give the baby up for adoption, abortion is not a contraceptive method. If you aren’t ready for a child or don’t want one use protection or don’t have sex.20 Reply801 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. First off I have that conversation on the first date
i date before marriage.
but yes is she lied and killed my kid I would dump her, I’m part of the creation aren’t I? Especially I’m marriage. even if I’m not married I would rather be a single dad and have her leave once the. Baby was born I would raise that kid as single dad
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+1 yAbortion SHOULD be legal as long as it's not used as just a means to get rid of a baby you weren't planning for. By that, I mean, you fuck some guy, get knocked up and just dance off to the abortion clinic to have the kid removed and, the next chance you get, you fuck another guy, get pregnant again and just trot off to the clinic again for another abortion.
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+1 yI am NOT anti-abortion, I did NOT leave a woman twice who aborted my unwanted child. It was the most painful times in my life!
If I had known before the abortion I would have tried to stop them by talking to them.
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+1 yThis is a very touchy subject. There needs to be standards or rules.
If a 12 yr old girl gets raped, either by family member or stranger, it should be a CHOICE. If its a "just because reason" then no. They have to live with the consequences or give baby up for adoption.
Everything in life is a choice. The government, no matter what party, should stay out of people's medical lives and personal decisions.
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+1 yIm fairly certain they would, as they are anti-abortion.
If a woman I'm with decided to abort our child, I'd stay but I would have to understand why.
My stance is, abortion should be treated as a purely medical issue, between a woman and her doctors (that are trained and legally obligated to act within strict ethical guidelines).
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Very well said - its really. between the woman and her doctor (s). There is such a variety of complex medical issues than can arise even within a solid family unit wanting to have a child it would be insane to pass a law forcing every single woman (with punishment of 1st degree murder charge) to carry every single embryo/fetus to term - wether the fetus was stillborn, missing half/most of its skull/brain, etc.
1.7K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. If it was my baby then yes I would leave her , if it was someone else’s baby , I would leave her , she doesn’t have to kill a baby if she doesn’t want it she can put it up for adoption
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThis qs would be fit if divorces were low and couples stayed together forever as they should. Nowadays no women and men want step kids around that’s a factor why women abort bc they realize they will be single.
If I’m already properly married and having sex in marriage I would always keep the baby even if it’s the 8th one00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI'm not anti abortion.. But I would leave if she aborted my child.. It's her body her choice, but I actually want kids, I'd not pay for the abortion, and I'd definitely leave her if she chose that against my wishes. If she has no respect for me and what I want she is unworthy of me.
10 ReplyYour question is confusing. I'm not sure if you are saying she wants to abort an unwanted baby she has with me or with someone she cheated on me with. Either way though the answer is simple, I'd leave her.
20 Reply1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Yes if I were the father I would want the baby. In the case of rape I would not force a girl to carry to term if she did not want to. However in the case of incest if it was consensual then she should carry to term. If not consensual then it is rap and charges should be filed
00 ReplyYes, even if I didn't want kids, that's still something I don't agree with.
I agree a woman's body is her own she can do what she wants, even abortion but I still think abortion is wrong and murder, so I wouldn't date someone who does that.
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+1 yAbsolutely not. Pregnancy requires two people. I would definitely live under my responsibility. Fortunately for me, I don’t have to worry about that. I am married, I have three adult children, and got a vasectomy 24 years ago.
00 ReplyOh, we would absolutely be over and done with if she got an abortion. That would be worse than cheating in my book.
30 Reply869 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I wouldn't date or even closely associate with someone who wasn't strongly anti abortion to begin with.
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What is the reasoning for? Just curious to see the same idea from a different angle than my own.
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Rape victims have no choice? Or victims of incest? Have you ever thought of the medical problems a child of incest will not may, will have? I know that most of the time the pregnancy will not finish. The victim will most likely miscarry. But I can't see taking a woman's choice away for any reason.
Remember that in my main comment this subject is very touchy. Im just asking questions. - +1 y
Happens more than you think. I'm not for or against. Its a personal choice. And we as people and governments meed to stay out of it.
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You comparing slavery or secession to abortion? We had secession during the revolutionary war basically. Abortion has nothing to do with that. Its about a woman's personal choice. Thats all. If you still want to be under England then that's your personal choice. My choice is not being under England or the Confederatcy.
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@marish01 where was the choices of rspe victims and incest victims. How would you feel giving birth to your baby brother or sister. Even that given birth to a child you don't want inside you.
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Unless you're a piece of property then i geel sorry gor you. I will not treat a person as a piece of property.
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@marish01 your choice to basically commit suicide. As i have said, its YOUR CHOICE not govt or anyone elses.
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@marish01 Here's another. Would you still do it if the fetus or baby will not survive at all? Or will just give birth to a blue baby or die of necrosis?
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@marish01 yes. No matter what.
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This is why its very touchy. At 18 my girlfriend (18) was pregnant. The baby or fetus wasn't going to survive. She decided not to terminate. Now she's dead. Died of necrosis. Her parents, me, drs all tried to plead with her. If she would have terminated she and i would probably be married and have kids. Or she could be married to someone else and have kids. Who knows. The main point is she would be alive today.
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@marish01 That's your CHOICE. No one else or a govt is making you do it either way. That's my main point through this whole thing. Its no one's business except for the mother's. But people who are against shouldn't judge on other ppls decisions.
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@marish01 So I guess your husband would have to bury you also.
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That's what my ex girlfriend's parents and I had to do.
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@marish01 Here we go again. Its your choice. So don't judge other women who would choose to terminate to save their lives in that situation. Or judge a rape victim who chooses to terminate.
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I support your position or choice. But I will also support the woman who chooses to terminate. Because people and government and bible beaters need to mind their own business. Only decision that should made the one thats pregnant.
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@marish01 If I have misunderstood that point, I apologize.
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Interesting take tha k you for sharing marish. Let me present a different angle to view it - not saying you need to agree on this angel or not - just to consider.
One person should have access to basic human rights such as right to live - I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But my human rights end where anothers begin (ie my right to life ends at a point where it infringes upon your right to life).
So what this means is that if I break into your home - say I am a bad guy - I want to kill/rape/rob you - whatecer the motive - maybe I am simply crazy - if I infringe or threaten you - in any way - and you deem it necessary to kill me in self defence to save yourself not only from death - but harm in general (say I want to chop off your arm - you yave a right to self defence in that case and are not convicted of murder as you are a victim who had to act and had a Right to act in that case to save yourself from harm/death I was attempting to commit on you. - +1 y
In this case the baby is occupying the mothers body and whether the baby intends to or not - if that baby is commiting threat of death/harm on the mother and occupying part of the mothers body without the mothers consent to do so at a specific point in time - the mother has a human right by law to self defence to save herself feom harm when another individual is threatening her - as the baby is doing in that specific moment in time. If that is inconvenient foe the baby - that is unfortunate foe the baby - but it does not allow the baby's right to freedom to infringe upon the mothers right to life. If the baby is in a test tube or separate of the womb on its own and can live - and is no longer a threat to the mother - the baby has a right to its own life in that case. But if it is a threat to the mothers right to life in anyway - the mother has a right to life and is allowed to get medical procedure to act in self defense to save herself from harm @marish01
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@21Cowboy21 and that is comparable to killing your own baby?
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I respect your viewpoint though also and will consider that, thank you for sharing.
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@21Cowboy21 thank you
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@marish01 @21Cowboy21 see its a choice to defend themselves or not. The victim can let you rape, rob, and cut their arm off. Or they can stop you by killing you or stop you some how and turn you over to police. I'll defend someone's choice over anything else. Will not defend a you have too thing.
7.3K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Any man that chooses to leave a woman over an important decision like this doesn't deserve to be with a woman in the first place. Leave and good riddance.
10 ReplyI consider most abortions as being equal to premeditated murder, so yes, unless there were extreme circumstances, I'd leave the woman and divorce her.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI'm not fully opposed to abortion, I support early term abortion (at least as of now, my opinion can change with future scientific and medical revelations), but if she were to abort my (our) baby without my consent, I'd absolutely have SIGNIFICANT issues with that. That's incredibly selfish, disrespectful, and unfathomably inconsiderate. The baby isn't just hers. And we're not talking about an Xbox or a car. We're talking about someone's baby, someone's daughter, someone's son, someone's blood.
00 ReplyYes, I would terminate any and all interaction with such a female.
When a woman murders her own child in the womb, that tells me everything that I need to know about her character.10 Reply- 570 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic.
+1 yHonestly, I supported the decision of a brutally-raped victim to get an abortion.
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+1 yis it "my" child or someone elses? i mean i'd leave either way. but if it's mine, i'd do everything in my power, so she doesn't kill my child.
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+1 ySo the pregnancy is unwanted by both parents in this hypothetical scenario? Regardless, as long as my tax dollars aren't being used, it's none of my business.
00 Reply I don't like abortions but wouldn't go so far as to call myself anti-abortion. That said, if she aborter my child and I wanted it... I can't say for sure what I'd do. I either leave or stay but the relationship would never be the same.
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+1 yBasically it is her decision. If it is your baby also, and you're not married, you should probably talk about the situation. Even if married, and it was not planned, you should still have a serious conversation.
00 ReplyYou want to know if you murder some man's child if he will stay with you? You being serious?
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+1 yI'm pro choice, but I left a woman for this. She never told me I was going to be a dad, she told me I wasn't. Game over.
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+1 yI could never love someone that murdered my baby.
10 Reply871 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. It can't be unwanted if your anti-abortion. Because then you want every kid that is yours.
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+1 yWould I leave her for abortion her child? I would and yes I did.
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+1 yI would leave her. I would try to talk her out of it. If she did it anyways, I'd be out the door.
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+1 ybefore i usually have strong opinion about abortion now i do not
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+1 yAbsolutely, but then again I wouldn’t be getting anyone pregnant to begin with because I’m voluntarily celibate.
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+1 yYes. I have to be with a woman who is pro-life. I can’t live with a woman who says, “My body. My choice.”
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What is the reasoning why? I am pro-choice as are most of my family members who work as doctors/ (and 2 as respiratory surgeons) in the medical professions. I know my background leading to my rational of perspective but curious to hear another perspective to see the same idea from a different angle or viewpoint.
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Abortion is murder. She should always want the baby.
+1 yand the Her Body.. Her Choice.

And the pearl clutcher hate in 3..2..1.. Go...
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+1 yThe reason have to be a serious one like health concern, but to abort a baby isn't something I will go with.
I can't be with a woman like that.
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+1 yI would never even date a girl who approves of abortion.
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+1 yI’ll leave her so fast I’ll leave before she even gets the chance to have an abortion
10 Reply370 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Not anti-abortion here. Her body her choice! I wouldn’t leave her. No worries.
00 Reply536 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I do not support this at all. I would hate the action, but always treat her with love
00 ReplyI would try to convince her about not abort the child but I can't force her about that. That's really sad :(
00 Reply1.8K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. That’s our go-to contraception. I get her nice and preggers, big belly and we go in for an abortion.
I think we’re at about 15-20 now….
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+1 yI don’t understand what exactly makes it unwanted
Can you define what an unwanted child is?
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+1 yIf I was with her the child wouldn't be unwanted.
00 Reply14.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. It better not be my kid I will be infuriated
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+1 yIt depends on if she was young or if it was rape or something like that. But I would date her.
00 ReplyI would discuss it with her her first and don't get into a relationship if she would.
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+1 ySince I'm sterile I'd leave her if she came up pregnant, as she had clearly cheated.
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+1 yI would view her negatively. It's an act a great selfishness. It just shows a sorry girl of low morals and character.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYes, I would leave her. Men have no choice in abortion, but they do have a choice in the kind of women they date.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf she aborted our child, yes, I would leave her.
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+1 yshe killed my child, i am morally obligated to kill her
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