Men can be hoes now?

[Anonymous]

What makes a woman a hoe? She gives men a lot of free sex.

What makes a man a hoe? He is a simp who gives women free money.

I just heard a song about it. It's called kali area codes.

Men are simping so hard some of us have become real hoes! Do you agree or disagree?

[DaveJord]

I agree... but man hoe to me is one of these losers that been freindzone so hard, he would have a better chance getting into and out the gates of Hades before hitting that vag. But he keeps sniffing around like he is her best friend.

So yeah, a simp I guess... but at least simps get laid right? So a man hoe is a guy that does everything for a woman, and he never gets laid.

[Asker]

Yea I feel like it's a spectrum of simping or hoe ing. They blend into eachother. Some guys may be simps but can still get a girl.

The least sex a guy gets the more likely it is he becomes a simp.

Just like the least love a woman can get, the more she tries to buy love with sex. Men try to buy sex with money.

The worst and lowest form of simp/hoe is the man who has utterly given up on female interaction and instead chooses to pay women to see their naked bodies.

[Rapport]

Men have always been "hoes" but the term used for men is just being that called being a "player" or a "fuckboy".

[Asker]

Well that's my point I guess is that I disagree with what you're saying.

I think the male equivalent of a hoe is not congruent with what a female hoe is.

The reason for that is that for women sex is easy to obtain and not for men.

A man that sleeps around is a stud because it's not easy to do.

A woman who sleeps around is a hoe because it is the easiest thing in the world for her to sleep around.

On the flip side, a male version of a hoe is a man who gives away free money to women. The same way a hoe gives men what they want, a male hoe gives women what they want. Which is free attention and resources from men.

I just cannot see the male hoe being a player and a female hoe as equivalent. They're different because the circumstances are different in my opinion.

But this I feel is the root of a lot of the double standards. It's just i guess I agree with the double standard because our circumstances as opposite genders competing in a sexual arena is different.

[Rapport]

I'm starting to see you're point now, it makes sense.

[Rapport]

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[LazerBean]

They've always been able to be hoes. It's just more common for them to be called losers. Anyone who sleeps around is a hoe and a loser, regardless of how much money they spend.

[Asker]

But for men, sleeping around doesn't make us a hoe.

Because all men are hoes desperate for sex. If only we COULD sleep around, we would!

What makes a man a hoe, is paying for female attention. Basically, a man submits to woman's superior sexual power, and on his knees gives her money for no reason other than she is beautiful.

Listen to the song if you dont get it. She says she has hoes in different area codes. Just like the male version of the song implies women he sleeps with, the female version implies men who pay her because she is beautiful.

But that is the root of the double standards we always see right? Why should a woman be a hoe for having sex but a man is not? It seems like it shouldn't matter.

But everyone can clearly see that the way male sexuality and female sexuality interact, causes it to be uneven like that.

What do you think? I'm not proclaiming to be spitting facts. I'm just saying that's how I see it right now.

[LazerBean]

I'm not even going to bother reading past the second line because your logic is already inherently wrong. There are men with morals, and who actually value themselves and have self control. You just can't grasp that not all that men are that pathetic, desperate, and worthless since you are not one of them.

[Asker]

Ok so read it and tell me why I'm wrong.

I'm not some angry incel rager. I'm not going to reply with anger or any emotion whatsoever.

This is all scientific for me.

If I'm wrong than help me see why instead of being mad.

[LazerBean]

Not all men are desperate for sex, easy, have no standards, no self control, and no morals. There are men who are far above that.

[Asker]

I never said anything that could even be construed as saying there aren't men with 'morals.'

All I'm saying is there is a percentage of men out there who are hoes for women.

Men who give their money to women with nothing in return. Just giving it up.

Just spending all their money on simping. It's sad.

Those men are hoes. That is the male equivalent of hoe in my opinion. Not a man who has a lot of sex.

I know that is a double standard but I think men and women live in different contexts.

[Asker]

I'm not even saying this is the fact. Maybe it's all just a social construction.

But given the social construction of traditional gender roles, than what I'm saying applies in my opinion.

But hey, humans have free will. Maybe one day we will all move away from that.

[LazerBean]

Yes you did.

"Because all men are hoes desperate for sex. If only we COULD sleep around, we would"

Someone like that has no morals. That's why older people refer to them as "losers" and look down on them, because they are so morally degenerate that it's pathetic and disgraceful to them.

[Adam1978]

A simp isn't a hoe, a male hoe is the same a regular hoes, he sleeping around with no standards anything goes.

[Asker]

I disagree. I think it's all about sexual competition between the two sexes.

A woman's power is in her sexuality. A man's power is in his resources, both physical mental spiritual and otherwise.

This is in respect to sexual competition, not political power or otherwise.

Men and women desire different things in eachother. The nature of male desire for a woman, desires different things from the woman, than does female desire for a man.

Men crave beauty in a woman above all else. Even if a man settles for a hideous woman, and any other combination of pairings, still, his sexual self knows rhe difference between an ugly woman and a sexy woman.

The same goes for female sexuality but it is different. Women do not crave the beauty of men but the dominance of men.

That's what I think anyways. I think it's mostly biological but translated through society. Women will always desire men with resources (physical, mental, social, spiritual and more), and men will desire women with beauty.

This in my opinion is an inalienable fact. I do not know how to prove to myself that I am wrong about this but I'm always open to changing my mind.

I am actively trying to challenge the ideas I have so that's why I made the post at all. And to learn something hopefully.

[Asker]

So yea point is, I see an asymmetry in the way we think about male and female sexuality. A male hoe and female hoe can have different definitions because our circumstances are different.

[Apple1996]

Men have always been hoes

[DextroShade]

Being a simp is worse than being a hoe.

[Asker]

I would argue that being a hoe is just the advanced form of simp.

I also argue that female hoe and male hoe is utterly different. It's not about sex. It's about giving the opposite gender the things they desire without any requirement.