+1 yWomen are attracted to dominance. They might not like the word "submissive," but that's what they are when they get dominated.
On that premise, they are not going to find some dude that is submissive to her from the start as very attractive. She might use him for money or attention, but it's not going to make her pussy wet. He might give her the world but that not going to earn her respect. And...
It just so happens that guys that don't give a fuck, will check a woman when she's wrong, and put her in her place... can sometimes be a drunk/criminal/abusive... or... just an emotional retard with a violent side.
Think about it. Why was 50 Shades of Grey or that Vampire movie so popular with women? The dudes in those movies didn't act like thirsty SIMP's that are desperate to put the girl on a pedestal and worship the ground they walk on, now did they?
That's my hot take... time for a meme...
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A lot of women are attracted to 'bad boys', as reverse psychology indicates that having the opposite of what is usually nice is seen as a challenge and more appealing, as Mr good can often be classed as 'no challenge', or 'needy, or even 'boring'.
I would advise any good guy to NEVER change. If a woman is not attracted to you for being a nice guy, then that's her loss. Otherwise, you will be changing your entire persona to be someone you are not.
And yes, the right women will eventually come for you.
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+1 yFirst of all, most of us don’t know that they’re terrible people until later in the relationship. Second, a lot of men who think that being nice to women should earn you a place in her heart as anything more than a guy who was nice to her are often also bad people. You can’t do something nice for someone with the expectation/thought process that they now owe you anything at all in return. That’s not being nice, that’s actually selfish. Third, a lot of men who are seemingly good to women are also actually a wolf in sheep’s clothing. ‘I paid for our date, now you owe me sex’ no, no I don’t. ‘I was nice to you so now you need to give me a chance to be your boyfriend’ again, no I don’t. Now, I do understand that not all men are like that, but I’m not naive enough to think that most men don’t think that way either.
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That's what I've heard so many of you say but, even when we TELL YOU the nasty shit he does, you STILL stick with him and refuse to believe us until it's too late!! And then, instead of trying out one of us nice guys who have already proven themselves to you, where do you go? RIGHT into the arms of the NEXT asshole that we just warned you about!!
"Really? He uses chicks for sex? Hmmm! When can I meet him?"
How would you know us nice guys are bad people when you can't even tell the assholes are bad people and you won't even give us half a chance? Why do you give THEM a chance but not us?
That's the paranoia programming you got when you were little telling you that we all EXPECT something from you for being nice to you!! 90% of that way of thinking is utter bullshit!! I do nice things for women all the time and expect nothing more than a thank you! Maybe even friendship! Now, what do the assholes do for you that you feel you HAVE to reward them with your love, affection and pussy?
What about these two guitarist that used to be in my band? Both of them had a woman "at home" waiting for them and they're both out fucking anything they can get their dick into!! They didn't take those girls on dates! They didn't say or do nice things for them! They didn't give them wonderful gifts! All they did was talk the girl into fucking them!! Had those girls talked to me, first, I would've warned them that they are just gonna use them for pussy!! And you know what would've happened? - +1 y
They would've STILL fucked those guys and then miraculously got disappointed when Jason & Frank wanted nothing more to do with them BECAUSE they got what they wanted!! Next day, same routine, different girls!! As long as you girls are dumb enough to fall for it, they'll keep doing it to you!! And, guess whose shoulder they come crying on when they DO get used? MINE!!
But, you ARE naive enough to fall for their bullshit every time!!
It just boggles my mind that you'll ALL give ALL the assholes a chance but WON'T give us nice guys a chance and THEN, come up with all these bullshit excuses as to WHY you won't give us a chance but, that same logic of yours NEVER gets used on the assholes!! - +1 y
@FunkyMonkee how about maybe, just maybe, instead of calling us dumb for going for the bad guys, you talk who ever it is that’s being toxic and tell them that that’s not ok instead of hounding us for shit we didn’t do. We’re not responsible for the way that men act. How about instead of blaming women for men treating us badly, you stop and think “hm, maybe I should be yelling at the guys who are doing these terrible things and not the women who are being treated terribly.” You think we actually like being treated horribly by men? News flash: we don’t, but a lot of guys who do treat us terribly manipulate us into thinking that they’re all that’s out there for us.
And just FYI - guys who really are nice guys don’t react the way that you just did and they don’t need to call themselves the nice guys because everybody already knows it because they’re nice to everybody, even when things don’t go their way or someone disagrees with them. If you have to tell others that you’re a nice guy - chances are that you’re not actually a nice guy. You’re probably just an asshole that only thinks of himself as a nice guy to seem better than the others, but everyone else can see straight through that facade.
How about instead of blaming women who don’t want you for not wanting you, you move the fuck on with your life. Rejection is a part of life. Yeah it sucks but you’ve eventually gotta build a bridge and get the fuck over it. Don’t be somewhere you’re not wanted and don’t be with someone who doesn’t want you. You can’t force someone to like you just because you want them to. Don’t be in places you’re not wanted. - +1 y
I really like how you phrased this and put it together. My boyfriend and I have talked about people in general who are like that. You can’t say that you are a nice person if you are doing something with the expectation of something in return. That holds true for dating and other avenues in life. There are men that expect sex, a relationship etc from a woman just because they did nice things for them and if that someone doesn’t like them back then they’re blind etc for not seeing what a great guy they’re missing out on. I avoid people like that.
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@FunkyMonkee Brah the women probably don’t fuck with you because you’re doing the absolute most. Telling on the next man to a girl about his business is NOT part of the game. Cut that out, grow a pair, & worry about yourself. Doing too much for pussy is not keeping it G.
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@InspiringMind BUUURRRP to you, too!
No idea what you're talking about. - +1 y
The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Why WOULDN'T that be considered, "dumb" when you keep falling for assholes over and over again?
From what I'm told, girls are supposed to be able to see who's a good guy and who's not!! Maybe you should get your radar fixed!
How about, instead of bitching at ME for the shit men do to women, y'all TEACH THEM when they're young HOW to treat a woman and how to be RESPECTFUL? As a mother, YOU'RE their first teacher!! TEACH THEM SOMETHING!! How about teaching your daughters how to weed out the losers and assholes from the nice guys?
I never blamed WOMEN for men treating them badly!! Only for CHOOSING TO BE WITH guys that treat them like shit!! ESPECIALLY when better choices are readily available Did you ever hear of the term, "dating"? That's where you go out with a number of guys over a period of time and FIND OUT which ones are the nice ones and which are the assholes!! Once you find an asshole, you stop dating him and eventually ween yourself down to JUST the nice guys!! Then, all you have to do is choose the guy that suits you best! NOT ANYMORE!! These days, you find some schmuck in a bar that LOOKS like he has lots of money and then you fuck him and choose to be his old lady on the spot!! In that case, EXPECT to get hurt!
I can only go by what I see!! You tend to chase after the assholes so, I GOTTA assume that you LIKE being treated badly!! I mean, you can't ALL be THAT STUPID!!
Okay so, why do you BELIEVE them when they say there's nothing else out there? You have the ability to go check out the landscape for yourself!! You're not a little girl anymore believing EVERYTHING mommy and daddy tells you!! - +1 y
Okay well, FYI, you just defined me as a nice guy!! I've NEVER IN MY LIFE expected EVERY girl I meet to fall into bed with me!! If it happens, it happens!! If not, so what? At least we can be friends! I've NEVER pressured anyone to fuck me!! Every girl I've had a relationship with, it was because SHE felt comfy enough with me to start one up with me! I also never force myself onto anyone!! Not even via so much as a kiss!!
Any girl; that's taken the time to know me will tell you that I AM a nice guy!! Even my guitarists girlfriend, who I was never very close with, told a girl that I may seem a bit forward but I'm rally a big teddy bear. I'm still friends with all of my ex's!! If I was an asshole, they wouldn't want anything to do with me, would they?
I've already gotten over LOTS of those bridges!! NEXT!!
"don’t be with someone who doesn’t want you." You should look in a mirror and say that!
When did I EVER force someone to like me? NEVER HAPPENED!! EVER!! I'm me! If someone likes that, great! We'll see what develops!! If they don't like it, great! That's why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream!! I'm NOT about to FORCE you to buy vanilla if you want chocolate!!
I'm in places where I'M wanted!! If they happen by, that's THEIR problem, not mine!! I never invited them to my house, my concerts, by my side to hang with me! If they wanna do that, that's on THEM!! - +1 y
@FunkyMonkee ur weird
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@InspiringMind Oh , well!! If treating women with respect, even though they don't know how to do the same to me, is weird then, I'm fucking weird!! LIVE WITH IT!!
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@FunkyMonkee get ya game up weirdo instead of being online crying about why women won’t give you the time of day. You ever think maybe it’s cause you’re weird
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@InspiringMind No, I think it's because they're fucking stupid, like you!!
Sensible women don’t purposely go for bad men. Of course we all have our own tastes and sometimes there may be men who are interested in you that you are simply not attracted to. Physical attraction is important. After that we establish whether our views are aligned, whether we are on the same wavelength and if we want the same things for our future. If we are compatible we go ahead with courtship and then eventually get married and have a family.
Some women who seen to go after men who treat them badly regularly may have underlying problems they need to address.
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+1 yI would never intentionally go for a bad boy. There are wolves in sheeps clothing who are very good at playing the goodie. But if i choose someone else over whats in front of me, its simply because whats in front of me is not my type OR my interest in the other person was already greater. I’ve liked multiple people before. If you dont want to be just another crush, just another number, then its best you step aside and let me focus on my main target
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+1 yBecause seeking a woman is a form of softness. Which is good. But it has to be counteracted by some hardness. If you're super masculine in many other ways then go show interest in her. But often men seem like pleasure chasers that are just too soft.
10 ReplyI’ve always liked confident men who are also kind and considerate. A lot of the time I got ‘nice guys’ who liked me and showed more interest in me but they weren’t actually kind. Most of the guys I went for weren’t necessarily bad people (for the most part, some people are good at hiding their red flags) but for whatever reason we weren’t compatible. I’m pretty lucky that I ended up with my significant other.
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You said you a lot of the time you got 'nice guys' that weren't nice, That doesn't make sense.
They were either nice Guys or they weren't.
If they weren't then that's the Guy you chose so in that case you didn't choose the nice Guy at all, did you.
Just because he turned out to be bad, He was never a nice Guy in that case. - +1 y
@Shy_Steve it means that they claimed to be/labeled themselves as nice guys when they aren’t actually nice guys. They just call themselves that to try and convince themselves and other people that they’re better then assholes when they’re not.
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@thatshydork Exactly, I’m glad you understood what I meant
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Fair enough, But most of you Girls are still choosing those Guys in the first place and your ignoring the Guys that would never do that.
https://youtu.be/C9ONWHXCsrk - +1 y
@Shy_Steve your name says all that needs to be said about you. The questions you ask is just the cherry on top. Just be normal & find hobbies & a girl will like you.
+1 yBecause of the thrill. With a bad boy you’re guaranteed to live life on the edge where as a more conservative man could lead you to a dull housewife life even though he loves you.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWomen have a hard time separating illusion from reality. Everything a woman thinks/hears gets filtered through her feelings. Women typically choose the most convincing liar not the best guy typically. If you want to improve you game with women lie, lie, lie, and then lie a little more. Be convincing! That's how thi game is played my man.
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+1 yIf I reject a guy I either don’t trust him or I’m doubtful about certain things or futures with him. If a guy is reliable and trustworthy, I accept him.
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+1 yopposite energies, they are drawn to masculine energy. sub consciously, they are drawn to what is familiar emotionally.
Not all women do, you are seeing a generality...
00 Reply 7.8K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. They don't. Get offline and experience the real world and you will see.
10 Replydefine "worse" like how worse we talkin'?
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+1 yLack of self confidence is a very destructive force in many women's lives.
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+1 yA puzzle I've been trying to find an answer for for at least the last 35 years!!
00 Reply 1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I have found that women want what what they can't have. Stupid? Yes!
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+1 yBecause women are attracted by real men who steal everything. All men are thief.
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If she is full brown whore she will go with full brown thief
+1 ythey like to chase as well i guess
00 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. They have low self esteem
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+1 yCuz that's the guy they're attracted to.
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+1 yMaybe coz they r more confident
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 ymaybe the good guy is boring
00 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Some women are strange
00 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. They're not too bright
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI guess they like a challenge
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