Do men like being treated like crap?

[ManOnFire]

Like in the same way that many women like being treated like a slut and enjoy it when men try to act like they're ignoring her and it makes her pursue even harder. Do men also like this and get turned on by it?

[blueonblack22]

A lot of women will say “yes” to this.

But the truth is men have been conditioned to take more sh*t from women than vice versa in our modern society. And it’s not just out of fear of potential rejection but actual long-term reputation damaging consequences. #metoo extended to unsubstantiated non-sexual abuse allegations a while ago. Women have even pit together social media groups about “guys too look out for”.

But deep down most men hate being treated like shit. Yes some of them had screwed up childhoods (absent/abusive mothers) that can lead to this. But most men have a horrible gut feeling about being disrespected. And deep down most men crave respect more than intimacy/sex.

Anyway most women really aren’t happy either when a man lets them walk all over them. But you are telling men to “man up” when they are bombarded and brainwashed by society to do the exact opposite.

So what’s going on now is some men are giving up altogether. Sure it can be lonely and depressing at times. But it’s then risking being treated like sh*t by a woman and being powerless to do anything about it. But we still have the power to ignore and/or walk away vsz getting angry and (non-violently) yelling at them.

[handsomelad70]

Or they're dating overseas babes.

[meepmeeperton]

No, in fact being remotely nice to a man is all it takes for a woman to get him to start fantasizing about marriage.

Some men like a bossy type of girl with an attitude, or a crazy girl who will be all over the place, but I think part of that is basically "taming" her to be good for you or submit to you in certain situations.

For example my girlfriend can be kind of bratty and demand princess treatment and I do give it to her but when it comes to the bedroom she is very submissive and does whatever I want. She likes being "mean" only to get put in her place.

Other than that she's very sweet and kind and always has been which is part of what made me fall in love with her.

[Anonymous]

I dont even know why some people like to play hard games. I feel like such people is just those who want to play around. Cuz if u truly love the people, the last thing u wanna go though is fighting hard for them. I personally wish if i find a guy that i like, he will be easy on me…

And since u are man urself, i wanna know your answer for your own question

[ManOnFire]

I am definitely not a man who likes being treated badly. And I can't understand men who are into it. I think some spicy stuff during sex is okay, but not to the point of serious abuse and degradation.

[Account]

No just like women don't. But with observation I found that most people do not like constant attention because they start taking you for granted and it sort of diminishes your value in their eyes and it actually makes sense.

[OlderAndWiser]

There may be some screwed-up guys who want to be treated like dirt, but I'm not one of those guys. I told my girlfriend/now wife that I would treat her like a queen, but I would expect her to treat me like a king. That's working out fairly well!

[Billlewis]

@OlderAndWiser Yes, Sir, I appreciate your concern, but I'm not screwed up; I'm in need of this ignominious debasement because if I didn't seek it out, I'd have no idea what it's like to experience. I know that sounds conceited as hell, and I assure you that this isn't my intention at all, but that's an oversimplified summary of the situation, in my estimation.

[Lynx122]

No a lot of men just don't have any options so they have to put up with a lot. Some men probably do like it but they're a small minority. Most men they're either desperate or they were not loved as kids and so they don't expect any better or something like that.

[adventurous-1]

Oh heck no! women are hard enough to try and understand without the games. Being treated like crap is a red flag and a solid indicator that she's a toxic person and it's a lost cause, Don't waist your time or effort on her as she isn't worth it. and its time to move on to a better choice. Who needs that grief in their life?

[FunkyMonkee]

No, but women sure as fuck do!!
He beats me and treats me so badly!!
So, LEAVE HIM!!
I CAN'T!!
Why not?
I LOVE HIM!!

[ManOnFire]

And I never can make sense of their logic!

[FunkyMonkee]

Join the club!
"I want Prince Charming!"
"Hello! My name is, Charming! I'm a Prince!"
"GET LOST, PAL!! I'M LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO ABUSE ME!!"

[elizamichale1]

Oh i hav had many clients who beg to be treated in worst ways

[ManOnFire]

I think that's pretty common, yeah.

[elizamichale1]

And its getting more n more common

[paledreams]

I usually treat people nicely - if people stare bear me or treat me poorly, then I'll give them the bare minimum the absolute bare minimum of politeness 😁😀

[paledreams]

So no, I don't like being treated like crap, lol 😆

[sage2021]

I sure don't like being trained like a slut or like crap. That to me is abnormal behavior.

[sage2021]

**correction**
Treated not trained 🙄

[Anonymous]

only simps and cucks enjoy being treated like crap though I guess it's more like they have no choice or risk being dumped or divorce if they don't give up their self-respect

[Randomdude849245]

Nope. Not even a little bit. If you're rude or mean to me. You're out. However if it's just playful jabs that's fine. I don't have time for anyone's negativity.

[avery58]

I think lots of men and women do because they subconsciously want to win over their acceptance

[ManOnFire]

Like what do you mean win over their acceptance?

[avery58]

It's just human nature to want to be liked, rejection hurts our self esteem so I think that subconsciously they want to feel that they're worthy enough to win over the person's acceptance even though the other person has a crappy attitude...

[ManOnFire]

Mmmm... If someone has a crappy attitude I sure as hell do NOT want their acceptance. But that's just me.

[BCRanger10]

I don't think they necessarily "like" it (though some probably do). I'd say they more tolerate it.

[ManOnFire]

Good point.

[DishLady]

Presumably so since they tend to pick either high-maintenance women or "the crazy girl" over ladies with more substantial qualities.

[ManOnFire]

A lot of guys definitely want high-maintenance women especially who are your definition of Hollywood beauty standards. Most of these chicks are so average.

[DishLady]

"High-maintenance" is basically a difficult, demanding woman, not specifically a commentary on the woman's beauty.

[ManOnFire]

Oh jeez I didn't know that😑. But usually high-maintenance women are also the ones who are conventionally 'beautiful.'

[DishLady]

Conventionally beautiful women can be “low maintenance” bc they have the grace and dignity to do stuff themselves; their beauty also manages itself without extra muss and fuss. They know what to bug a guy for and what not to. Their charm is natural, etc etc.

[ManOnFire]

Nah. Conventionally "beautiful" women are the opposite. They are conceited because they know people see them as beautiful and worship them like Hollywood stars, and they behave however they want because they know most people will let them slide.

[DishLady]

Hmm. Conceited = high maintenance. Natural beauty doesn’t need to be flaunted = low maintenance….

“Worship” isn’t the goal or purpose of a good woman, who’s a natural beauty inside and out.

What you’re referring to is some cheap decoy….

[ManOnFire]

You're confusing the connections. Conceited DOES = high maintenance, and most conventionally "beautiful" women are high maintenance. “Worship” isn’t the goal or purpose of a good woman, correct. But it IS the goal of a conceited, conventionally "beautiful" high maintenance woman, and most of them ARE cheap decoys.

Natural beauties who are NOT conceited and are kind and humble women are a rarity, but they are good women.

We're looking at the same things, but you're not getting where I'm going with it.

[DishLady]

I guess DM when you have a sec and clarify, then. I’m intrigued but don’t like taking up so much space on the public forum. To be continued. :)

[Dongie]

Nope, not me. I can enjoy a fair amount of abuse from the weaker sex, but their must be respect.

[ProbablyClueless]

No. But I think a lot of us have come to expect it though. We are WAY too used to being shat on by women.

[postaldudePL123]

Ever heard of simps?

[ManOnFire]

Nice point.

[handsomelad70]

Not this ol' boy !!!

[DextroShade]

Only losers and weirdos.

[RedInnocent69]

Not as, j h as girls do.

[impalabill77]

I do not. I heard some do.

[OtterMan68]

not real men

[ManOnFire]

Amen.

[NathanDavis]

nobody got time for none of that...

[Billlewis]

Yes, Sir, absolutely. All day, every day 🔥

[legalboxers]

unless your name is "Matt"

[ManOnFire]

Don't get that one, sorry.