Don't get upset because decent women won't date you. If you want a decent woman to date you then change your ways. The only women that will casually sleep with a man that they are not in a committed relationship are a players just like you. If you don't like it tough luck.
You're just making lousy excuses for your behavior. Women aren't cattle dating multiple people at one time is ridiculous. You'll confuse one with the other eventually. Also people date one singular person so that they can better get to know someone. If you're spending the majority of your time dating other women how will you have the time to spend really getting to know that one individual? Its not possible. Just admit to your self that you enjoy the attention of multiple women. There is nothing wrong with that, but...you might want to work on your self esteem though. Because honestly serial dating has a lot to do with ones self esteem. And not in a good way.
Also using frequent divorces in the US or whatever country you live in as an excuse to explain to women why you date multiple women is just that...a lousy excuse.
MANY people have been hurt in past relationships. Many have been divorced from marriages but you know what? They don't use that as an excuse to not date a single person exclusively. Stop making excuses and just admit that you want to date multiple women because you LIKE it and you enjoy the attention you get from multiple women.
A person who is truly looking for a committed relationship isn't going to date multiple women at one time. Its too much work trying to keep up with all those people. Ugh just thinking about it makes me sick! And then you're talking about SLEEPING with these women?
That's gross...really gross. And if any women continues to date you knowing that you date these women and sleeps with them is STUPID. You know you wouldn't seriously commit to someone like that. If so you wouldn't be asking this question you'd probably already have made one of them your girlfriends by now. So why even pretend?26 Reply- +1 y
this is a very immature post. no where did I say I'm upset or that I have any type of problems dating good women.
you have a very ridiculous notion that casual sex makes someone lousy or a player. everyone enjoys sex, and most people don't have such a stuckup view about it like yourself.
im not making "excuses" for any behavior, this is something consenting adults are all agreeing to do and ENJOY.
I hear this flimsy argument over and over, that its "selfish" but the reality is that women are j - +1 y
ust as selfish wanting a long term relationship from a guy while he may not. Why the hell should a guy commit just because that's what SHE wants? That's extremely selfish as well for any girl. I like meeting and dating more than one woman because theyre aren't very many good ones out there. Is it my fault that most girls are not girlfriend material? Fuc.k no it isnt.. The only person that's stupid here is you, venting out some of your own personal bullsh*t to me
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Actually I said in my post that most women who think like you and do the same as you as in sleep casually with the men that they date and don't commit are like minded. And if you're dating women like that then you need to STOP dating and actually analyze what it is you admire/like in a woman and stop focusing so much on the actually company of a woman. If you are finding women that aren't "good" then its something you're doing to attract them. Or something they have that you're attracted to.
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Its easy to say that the problem is me and not the women I've encountered in my life, but then again you don't know me at all or any of the girls I met. You're generalizing and assuming that I've dated good women and that I was the problem. Not at all, most girls are selfish in the exact same way they always claim men to be but since they are girls its "ok". Your not a guy so you can't really comment on our perspective since its totally different from yours
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I wasn't thinking that way at all. I completely empathize with both sexes on this matter. EVERYONE has gotten played at some point in their life. It hurts like hell. And that's where I think most players are born from. It's because they were played at one point in their life so they feel they should do the same since they got hurt by a player. But why label your self as something as bad as that if you don't even feel you have those bad traits?
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Also what's with the negative responses to people who disagree with you? If you're so mature you should be able to respect why other people feel the way they do. You asked a question so you should expect to here both sides of the story. There's what you will like to hear, and then there is what you won't like to hear. You should be respectful of everyone's opinions. The fact that you are throwing insults such as "you don't know what you're talking about" is very much immature. Never did I say that you didn't know what you're talking about. I simply said why I hate "players" and if you don't see your self as a "player" why call your self that?
I don't agree with a lot of people's views on this site, but I respect them because I know that despite our differences we're human and are entitled to own opinions. You like to date multiple women, OKAY. But why even concern your self with women disliking them. If you're not having trouble finding women to go out with you what is there to ponder over? You're DOING IT. Just let it be.04 Reply- +1 y
Take a look at your first answer and it will be clear. You have all kinds of rude remarks and judgmental things based of nothing but assumptions to say and then you wonder why I'm rude to you.. crazy. As for the other people, yes their viewpoint sounds like the typical brainwashed churchgoer who ends up with a cheating wife in a stale marriage. However, they can defend themselves so lets focus what you and I are talking about.
I asked this question as a discussion and I had a lot of good conve
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Look just be honest to the chicks you date, okay? Many women get hurt like that because guys aren't openly honest regarding these things. My ex was one of them, it isn't a great feeling to be played and fooled into thinking you're the only one. Just be honest. Also I wasn't talking about my answer I was talking about the guys post below. It seemed like you insulted them simply because they didn't agree with what you were saying.
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Why did you not read my entire question before you even posted the first time? I said I'm against deception. I'm sorry you got played but that has nothing to do with me.
And yes those guys below are the type that regurgitates their own brainwashing onto others about what you should and shouldn't do and then they have a stale dead marriage where their wife cheats on them because they don't know how to be exciting and fun. Want to go for guys like that? be my guest
+1 yPlayers are extremely selfish and they hurt girls because they're only looking out for themselves.
Fine, date as many people as you want at once. But TELL THEM. Tell them all upfront "Hey, I'm dating 7 girls right now. I really just feel that monogamous marriages are in a terrible state and I'm looking out for myself here. I don't want to be stuck with someone who's not good for me, so I'm dating 7 people at once. I just thought I'd let you know out of courtesy and respect." Then let her choose what she wants to do. The problem with players is that they don't do that. They date multiple people but usually give them all the impression that they're the only love interest in their life. That's wrong. That's called stringing someone along and someone is going to get hurt. If you're going to be a player, then let girls really know how you are and what you're up to then they can't be mad about it.511 Reply- +1 y
hey I'm all about upfront honesty and letting people know where you're coming from. If you said exactly that to a girl she would probably like you for being honest to her.
im def against the deceptive ways some guys have.
i guess I didn't clarify in my original Q that its not about deception - +1 y
lol, ummm most girls would up and leave and go find a guy with a bit more integrity. But at least if you're honest, then it's HER fault she got played because she knew what she was walking into.
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no most wouldnt, I know you would think that but I've seen it happen a million times.
ive seen 2 girls at the same time and was honest with both of them about it. Neither wanted to leave me. I ended up making one of them a long term girlfriend for about 3 years, but in that time I was seeing both I honestly didn't know who I liked more. - +1 y
I guess. I still think it's extremely selfish. I've had ample opportunities to be seeing more than one guy at once for my own selfish desire to see what's right for me but I don't do that because people can get attached. Then what? "Whoops sorry. I want someone else. Bye." ? No, that's effed up. That's asking to create a complex situation where somebody gets hurt.
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If someone gets attached too quickly that's not my fault that they are clingy. I can't change my life to make up for someone elses shortcomings. Is it selfish? I guess so but think about the alternative: dating very few people one after another and then ending up with someone that isn't good for you and living in a bad relationship(cause you didn't meet all your options), which will lead to MUCH more heartache than breaking things off early. Being selfish isn't necessaril bad because you might end
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making another person who matches you the happiest person in the world rather than getting into a serious relationship with someonee you don't even like very much to appease them. Also for the hurt part, how would it be any different if you were seeing one person and then left them? Theyre still gonna get hurt. You can't avoid hurting someone when you don't want to see them any more, that's just part of life.
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It's not about getting attached quickly. They may not get attached quickly and even if someone does get attached in a short amount of time, that does not necessarily mean they are clingy.
If the person isn't good for you, then you can just break up with them. It's not like you're binded to them for life. I think that's just an excuse you're using to make your very selfish behavior not sound so bad.
I answered your question as to why girls hate players. I don't know why you're trying to convince me - +1 y
of something else.
I think someone who does that is selfish and they don't deserve a selfless lover/mate. - +1 y
I totally agree.. I just got played..another girl showed up at the door after a really nice weekend together.. I heard her say "I tried to call you but you didn't answer".. at which he held the door so neither one of us could see each other.. and told her he "had company". This is after he had told me he was seeing others.. but no one "important" just an "occasional date". He also explained that the reason he had to see others was due to his "ego" and self-esteem.. whatever!
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atxgirl123, I'm sorry to hear that, but just be glad he showed his true colors early before you really got attached. So now you know he's a liar and he's got some serious self-esteem problems if he has to selfishly play with girl's emotions in order to feel good about himself. Now does that sound like the type of guy you can rely on? The type of guy who will contribute positive, healthy things into your life? Hell never! Onto the next one!
+1 yThere's a lot of ambiguity over what 'player' means. It could mean:
- a guy who 'plays the game' which could itself mean
- a guy who lies
- a guy who tries to make girls love him in order to have sex
- a guy who acts in certain ways he believes will trigger certain emotional responses
- a guy who is good with women
- a guy who dates a lot
- a guy who knows how to behave to attract woman
- a guy who dates multiple women
- a guy who sleeps with multiple women
- a guy who is only interested in casual sex
If you think of 'players' as liars, you're gonna think they're scum. If you think of players as guys who know how to attract women and are honest about what they want (which frankly with most post high school western women will get you more casual sex then pretending to want relationships) then there is nothing wrong with it. And there is a grey area where a guy tries to play on instincts while at the same time being honest. Which to me is no more wrong then makeup or a pushup bra.11 Reply
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u +1 yWho says the majority of monogamous dating relationships and marriages are in "terrible state"?
As for the "taking too seriously" thing, that's the point of dating. You get to know someone. You learn what you like about them, what you don't like, and if you can be compatible with each other. You don't need to date multiple people at once for that.01 Reply
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+1 yno "players" are guys who try to have sex with as many girls as possible then stop talking to them. there's nothing wrong with dating multiple people to see whose right for you, that's what normal people do.
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Indeed. Players are guys who have worked the kinks out of their way of meeting and seducing girls, and do it in a conveyor fashion.
I was vacationing with this soap actor in Ibiza and most days there'd be a different girl sleeping over with him. And he's not the worst by far - actually a very friendly person, just not very deep - so he's not saying "no" to fans much :). A lot of players have inner hurt or insecurity - while for most normal people the pain of breakup would outweigh the thrill - +1 y
I'm normal and I don't serial date. I date one person at a time. It's always nice to take your time with things rather than be a greedy kid who wants a taste of all the sweets in the jar. Many people get hurt because of this. How many people do you know openly say they are dating/talking to other people. My last ex said he had been talking to other girls when we first started dating. I told him that I was talking to two other guys too. Do you know that he got upset about that? Pfft. players.
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"normal" is a subjective term silly girl. Serial dating is "normal" in my book, and if you want to take your time then do so. Just don't be one of the many as.sholes in the world who try to push your morals onto others. Were talking about CONSENTING adults here, not retarded children like yourself
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1. I'm not saying have multiple relationships, I'm saying go on multiple dates
2. if you put all your eggs in one basket, then yes, your going to get hurt, over and over, because the chances of you meeting one person and that person being perfect for you is a joke.
+1 yNo one wants to be the girl that gets played. Technically though, the guys that are players pretend to be serious about many girls past the stage of getting to know them, making all the girls fall for them and then dumping them all or picking just one. No kne wants to feel led on or rejected, they're awful feelings, that is why people make such a big deal.
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Both!
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It is if there is lots of kissing involved. Doing that with multiple girls at the same time, its like a slap in the face to all of them! You know, the more rare something is the more it's worth and girls expect guys to only show that type of interest in one at a time! Otherwise it's like being told you're not at all special, not worth the exclusiveness of interest.
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Um...
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yTo each their own and above all be honest if that is the way you want to conduct your life and relationships however, consider this: 1) a serial dater (why do you need that many? It could become to difficult to settle into one relationship due to the temptation of the hand in the candy Jar 2) some people are Narcissistic and need supply never really wanting a real relationship with one person (I don't want to get tangled with such a person as they are lacking in basic emotion and empathy) 3) do the serial daters that are dating multiple people really know what they are looking for? Do they themselves have adequate relationship skills 4) are they a sex addict? are they sleeping with all of these and what about diseases? 5) because they are used to having multiple partners and people are they really capable of bonding with just one person then? 6) as others stated.. how do you have the time, money, and memory to keep up with all of those people?
00 ReplyBut I don't think that players would want their girlfriends to see other men. I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too. I mean if you're sleeping around with a lot of girls and those girls don't know about each other how does that not make you a liar? I wish players weren't such dogs because they have so much sexy swag and confidence. :(
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Yeah but a lot of times players mislead girls into thinking they are the only girl they are seeing isn't that why they are called players? And when guys get caught cheating they say don't hate the player hate the game...If you're having a lot of sex and no real connections do it, if you go out of your way to tell a girl that you're also seeing 5 other girls simultaneously, which I doubt, then that's OK. But honestly how would you feel if a girl you were seeing was with other guys like that?
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well I've dated 2 girls at the same time but I've never had the reverse happen to me. plus from the way I know girls are if they like me they generally wouldn't want to see other guys.. but if I was seeing a girl I really liked and she was seeing other guys I would probably feel sick and stop seeing her.
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So if you wouldn't want someone to do that to you than why is it OK to do that to them? First off it hurts your ego or self-esteem to know the person you are dating doesn't think your good enough to just see you and not a bunch of other girls. And secondly it feels like cheating when you care for someone else even if it isn't official. How would you feel if you were just waiting around like a piece of meat for your potential girlfriend to "pick" you? It's kinda degrading to the other person.
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its never happened..
also its not my job to take care of another persons self esteem and ego, that's their own responsibility. If it was my girlfriend who I really liked? that's different. were talking about dating people you don't know that well yet. like within the first few months of seeing someone. - +1 y
To me it's backwards logic that I would have to sleep with them in order to get to know them. I think I would have to get to know them in order for me to have sex with them. My experience with players are that they are cheap and wanna "hangout" instead of actually go on dates that cost money. They like to do things ass backwards. Its like me saying I have to have your child in order for me to get to know you.
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i think you just make sex itself a bigger deal than most people. I mean you're casually seeing someone because you don't know them all that well yet, and that includes hanging out, having sex, etc.
Going on "formal dates" is a horrible way to get to know someone cause it puts all these pressures to be fake and not be yourself. - +1 y
You just wanna have sex you don't want a real relationship, let's be clear about this. And your basically shopping around for the girl who is the best in bed and keep her. That is like me meeting a guy telling him to show me his penis and if it isn't what I want moving on to the next one. Just because I know what someone looks like naked or how they are in bed doesn't mean I know them better because of it. If someone doesn't want to formally date me but expects me to sleep with them is lazy.
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well that's not what I said. I do like relationships, but only with someone I genuinely like and lets face it that's not gonna be the first person, or first few that I meet.
Girls want to jump into a serious relationship so fast its ridiculous. These things take time, and no that doesn't mean I'm just using her for sex , it means I don't know her well enough yet - +1 y
plus I gotta say, its not like a girl doesn't enjoy sex just as much if not more than I do. We are both enjoying each other otherwise we wouldn't be hanging out at all. If that leads to something more, cool, if not then that's cool too. It's impossible to know how things will turn out later, having good times together is all you can do in the moment.
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QA, I must say, you sound like a total pig.
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Isn't sex called being intimate for a reason? I am an independent woman and it sounds like you just want to sleep with girls that don't really value themselves enough to say no, and have little to no self-respect. Because at the end of the day the girls that are what you call "independent" are called sluts because they sleep with anything that moves. And the male slut is known as a player. So I guess it makes sense for the two groups to get together. But don't imply girls with morals are needy.
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I don't agree with promiscuity and you are the most immature you basically just want sex and do anything in order to get it. But people that are responsible and don't sleep with anything with a penis is uptight? I'd rater be considered an uptight girl than a girl that's being played by someone like you. You don't know the girl's perspective most of my friends are like that and they 99% of the time regret hooking up wth strangers, if it's so normal why do girls have to get drunk beforehand?
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omg, I want sex and will do anything to get it? No I never said that so quit demonizing someone you don't know just because they have opinions that clash with yours.
I don't "play" girls, I already told you many times now I'm open and honest about my intentions with all of them.. fu.ckin' A .
I've never slept with a drunk chick nor would I want to, girls can be crazy and I don't want to risk anything in a society that is biased towards women being helpless victims. Fuc.k that sh*t - +1 y
So what exactly is the point of dating around and sleeping around? Besides finding out which is the best lay? You admit that it would hurt you had the tables been turned so why do you continue to do it, just admit that you simply don't care about the girls you sleep with, so when you boil it down it's just you wanting to get off.
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for you to say such things about a person you don't know at all.. extremely dumb.
I told you exactly that I date more than one girl to find the best one for me, and if I like someone enough I would stop seeing everyone else for her. Your trying to demonize me into this stereotypical movie character that is heartless and uses girls and laughs about it. I do care about the girls I'm seeing, and I treat them all with sensitivity and care. I don't go around breaking hearts for fun, I just know how d - +1 y
If that works for you and if that's the way you want to live you're life than live it. If all the girls know about each other and have absolutely no problem with you sleeping with them one night and waking up with someone else the next (which I doubt) then its whatever. But personally I couldn't sleep at night if I lived the way you do. But different strokes for different folks I'm sure you would die if you couldn't sleep with someone before committing to them which is my ideal relationship.
a "player" is male who plays women that why its called a "player" if aren't being dishonest than your are playing anyone and therefore not a player, what you are talking about is often times referred to as gaming. as for your question nobody likes being played that why its a big deal otherwise its just girls being bitter
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+1 yGirls already have a ton of image issues as it is, and when you "play" them it just makes them feel that much awful. instead just make there confidence go up and find someone worth getting instead of an STD for a good F****k.
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Don't hate the player... Hate the game? O_o
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+1 ySeriously, I'm a guy and I don't like players either. They ruin it for guys who are serious about people and life and if that's not enough there is very serious STD's out there. No one has to get intimate with someone to know if you like that person or not, that's just an excuse if you ask me.
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well I have to slightly disagree with you on that, because getting "serious" with someone is a terrible idea. You need to let things go casually and grow naturally. Its one of the most common mistakes people make, getting serious with someone way too fast and living in a bad relationship.
+1 yRelationships were designed to be exclusive and when you like a guy of course it's going to hurt to see him with another girl... it's not fair for the girl if he is dating 5 or 6 girls at the same tie.
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"designed" .. not a very good term to use about something that varies subjectively from one person to the next.
The girl doesn't have to stay with him, it's her choice..
If the guy likes the girl a lot its not like he's gonna want to see other girls. If she's not good for him on the other hand then maybe that hurt is what will drive them appart to other people who are better for them
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yBecause players make people think that maybe they've actually found something special later to be disappointed because they didn't know that you've been talking to other people. That's what's wrong with it. I'm sure if players were honest and said that they were blatantly seeing other girls, they wouldn't have as many girls as they have because most players AREN'T open about how many girls they're seeing.
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+1 yBecause they have low self esteem and respect. Therefore they have none for others
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When you peel off the layers and masks you will find most have had difficult childhood and upbringing. it is a cause for the low self esteem and lack of respect toward women specifically. The cockyness is mistaken for confidence by the naive females. The lack of respect it just that. Respecting women and playing them are contradictory.
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ok well I guess I was confused with the term player. I thought it means someone who is seeing more than one girl, but I wasn't aware it means someone who is deceptive and leading the girls on too. Its definitely possible to respect a few people you're seeing, and you do that by being open and honest with them about where you're coming from.
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If you are open and honest about seeing several women at time then that wouldn't be a player in my book. A player to me is someone manipulative and deceptive. Feeding bs to females to get to have sex. Seeing several women at the same time is promiscuous. I don't fancy that of kind of guy. much like a guy wouldn't like a girl he is with to see several other men at the same time
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^_^
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I really doubt they have low self-esteem, just because they are a player.
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@ mr nameless. Meh read the comments below. Already been discussed
It is because the female players want you to be around while they are playing you... It is just an excuse to justify their actions or if they get with a player she will be free to play him also...
This is why I have a forgiveness but dump policy lol. I forgive you but see ya later lol. I stick to my guns...00 ReplyI don't care if a guy is seeing a lot of people. that's his right. mine too.
if were not exclusive, than were not, exclusive.03 Reply- +1 y
You really are an impressive thread necromancer.
Is it the 'check out similar questions' that draws you in?
girls aren't dolls you can play with . karma that's all I am saying...
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 y"you don't know who someone really is until after you've hung out with them, been intimate with them"
wrong. you don't need to f*** a lot of girls if you want to get to know them better. pathetic excuse.26 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 ysex has nothing to do with knwoing someone's "social mask". I highly doubt you aren't mentally challenged.
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wow you're going to tell me I'm stupid.. that's so mature! I guess you're used to hanging out with kids on a playground while I'm f***ing hot women. You're perspective says youve never seen that animalistic primal slut that yearns to be released from a girl. You're the "nice guy" that they can't ever truly let go around and eventually friend zone or cheat on with a bad boy. Thanks for being clueless about women, it makes my life easier since they get sick of guys like you real quick : )
Opinion Owner+1 y"You're perspective" = YOUR perspective. how am I supposed to take you seriously? thanks for proving me right, retard.
to be honest, there is nothing I love more than man whores. the fact they are so cheap amuses me. real men (including me) have a hot girlfriend. they don't feel the need to sleep with as many girls as possible. girls who are willing to f*** man whores are nothing special. they are cheap. I'd never allow them to f*** me.
Opinion Owner+1 yyou're so helpless. you can't even defend yourself. do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself. I don't know that I have a hot girlfriend? HAHAHA! ! ! you're so retarded... it isn't even funny anymore. seriously, I feel sorry for you. it's not your fault you're mentally challenged. don't worry, I'll leave you alone now...
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