And here we have one of the most dangerous people in the world today. Not only are you a fool but you are also advocating to stop one of the most successful advancement in public health in history.
To start with not all vaccines are toxic, the very fact that you state this means you are being dishonest. It also does not mean how "healthy" your immune system is if you contract a sickness not to mention how such a thing can still spread through a population and infect people who literally can't attain a good immune system for various medical and other reasons.
You also ignore all known data regarding the effectiveness of vaccines and modern medical research. In its place you are trying to push religion and testimonies of random people. You are truly a disgusting human being.
You... don't really know how the immune system works do you?
It's like muscle, if you use it, it gets stronger. It adopts to the environment. If you don't use it then you are screwed. Do you really want to see small pox on your kids? You gotta love that right? Do you know why human population never seem to grow before the invention of vaccines?
Now, I don't really care what you do. If don't vaccinate, you and your family needs to be quarantined for the safety of the community. Why? Because you can carry and spread dangerous diseases.
After all, people kill rodents like nice and stuff because they spread diseases. You are also spreading diseases. Time to shut yourself in a box and not infect and kill kids.
None of the 7 points listed at the beginning of your myTake prove that vaccines cause damage. How soon people forget how things used to be. Only a hundred years ago illnesses that are now largely gone used to kill a great many children. Diptheria, pertussis, etc. Small pox is now virtually wiped out on this planet. Polio no longer maims children for life. Why is that? Vaccinations and the benefit of "herd immunity," which you can thank you own (presumably) good health for. Vaccination has been one of the greatest discoveries and public health advances in medical history. And the fools who choose to withhold vaccinations for their children put not only their own children at risk, but all of the population at risk. We have seen this in areas where significant numbers of parents choose not to vaccinate their kids, or where immigrants become part of the population and have not been vaccinated. There are measles outbreaks in these areas, for example, and that can be a very serious illness.
There is also loads of videos showing the dangers of vaccines and my cousin died taking a vaccine so they don't always do nothing but good. The best good would be teaching people how to take care of their health. Not inject a needle in you full of poisons and expect a miracle.
The polio vaccine is a myth. People in India and other poor countries get vaccinated and still get polio. The reason polio declined is because the sewer and fecal matter got to the point where it wasn't as exposed.
The medical doctor is from New Jersey and he even doesn't fall for that myth.
Off the top it first appears as though we may have been misled about how dangerous Polio really is. When Polio outbreaks were happening in the late 50’s and early 60’s, many of the adverse effects were due to the lack of clean conditions. The truth is over 90% of the cases where people contracted Polio, the symptoms experienced were very minute. Most symptoms included a slight fever, headache, sore throat, and vomiting. The recovery time was 24 – 72 hrs. Once recovered, the person now has a life time immunity to Polio. 5% of people who contracted Polio had less symptoms and recovery time was much less. They would see some sore throat and possibly a fever. Rare cases saw diarrhea. Then we get to 3% of people who had a bit more extreme cases where they may have seen some limb weakness and partial paralysis that would be experienced for 2 – 10 days.
This only happened when areas of the brain that controlled limbs were irritated by a form of viral meningitis. All cases saw a complete recovery and life long immunity. Now we get to the worst cases of them all. Less than 2% of cases saw some form of more serious paralysis. Of that 2% though 50% saw complete recovery over time from the paralysis.
It's all BS stats paid by the medical community. Why do you think there are so many drug commercials on television? They want to trick and deceive you.
If you want to trust the government and the medical field, go ahead. I'm going to trust nature by placing real food for us to eat thereof.
Get a needed full of poisons in you and poof, believe you are immune to it. If your immune system is weak to start with, you won't be saved. And not all people are good candidates of vaccines. Even doctors who agree with vaccines don't recommend them for every single person.
@ClapTapGirl I got two questions that can debunk 99% of conspiracy theories. If it is true, how come no proof has gotten out? For something like this, millions of people have to lie. Do you really expect someone not to write something down, or say something in their last breath? And how does this positively affect the higher ups? The higher ups still get vaccinated.
The higher ups meaning the top 10% in wealth I assume you're talking about. Well, it's because they are brainwashed. Did you know many women like Tom Cruise and find him attractive? He's a Christian Scientologist sect and is against vaccinations, drugs, circumcisions and contraception. He has a daughter named Suri Cruise and she has never been home schooled. Because of that, she must be home schooled but that's okay because parents ought to teach education to kids, not the governmental school system.
Proof is often shut up because they are paid to hush. There is a cure for virtually all diseases but if the mainstream knew it, doctors would virtually go out of business. They'd only be needed in emergencies like vehicle wrecks or house fires. Dr. Royal Raymond Rife in 1979 in Canada found a cure for cancer that was tested on 180 people and 83% of them were cancer free 18 years later.
Source: Cancer Defeated PO Box 1076, Lexington, VA 24450
@ClapTapGirl At the very start is says 'Much of the material presented in this article lacks primary sources to prove its authenticity and accuracy. We've had to rely on secondary sources — in layman's terms, what somebody heard from somebody else.' Sure they believe it's real, but it most likely isn't.
@DonkeyRick69 If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpertrated.
That still isn't proof. You can't know that if a person was not vaccinated that they wouldn't get smallpox because you can't be sure that smallpox would be there if they were not vaccinated.
Canadian physician Dr. Andrew Moulden provided clear scientific evidence to prove that every dose of vaccine given to a child or an adult produces harm. The truth that he uncovered was rejected by the conventional medical system and the pharmaceutical industry. Nevertheless, his warning and his message to America remains as a solid legacy of the man who stood up against big pharma and their program to vaccinate every person on the Earth.
people need to be aware of what they put in their bodies'. people should be aware of what is in vaccines and smart about getting them administered. but you can't deny the reduction in diseases (and near elimination of some) that came in hand with the introduction of certain vaccines.
just the simple fact of the number of people who benefit compared to the number of people who suffer is enough to see that there is merits in getting vaccinated
@jacquesvol unfortunately it is. I've encountered a few nutjobs like that. Meningitis doesn't care about happy thoughts and what a fraudster doctor says
it's been said but 1 child dying from a vaccine is no reason to undo years of disease and illness reduction. 1 child may die but millions if not billions have been saved. that isn't to say 1 death isn't reason to question a vaccine but it is certainly no reason to not vaccinate.
I completely disagree with this. Vaccinations are getting a bad rap based on the overwhelming minority of questionable "scientific" studies. Vaccinations saves lives. Please keep your kids away from my kids... and the rest of my family if you refuse to get them. You are a public health hazard.
Actually, since you posted the question, I obviously do have a right to comment. I'm sorry if it bothers you that people disagree with you. This is not a joke. I go with solid research. Here are some stats regarding what has been happening since so many people have been jumping on the no vaccine bandwagon: blogs.scientificamerican.com/.../
No. I'm surprised at the stubbornness that people who think vaccinations is the answer to life's health. If people were taught how to protect their immune system, they wouldn't need vaccines.
It is isn't a secret that many docs are against vaccines or that the AMA has been accused of corruption. I read the piece. It doesn't address the reality of what's going on in the big picture. In the source I posted, there has been data tracking regarding outbreak rates and the DECLINE of vaccinations. How do you explain that? The evidence is clear.
No it isn't. They were of people who are naturally prone to weakened immune systems. The people who have strong immune systems don't need disease.
You use Africans and other nations as examples. Go to Iowa, Missouri or extremely healthy pastures where people are fed an extremely healthy diet and vaccines are not needed when they go to poorer countries.
Adam and Eve never got vaccines and they were extremely healthy.
Right! That's exactly the course that was taken with polio, measles and a host of other disease. Are you kidding? If the message from the public health community was "just take care of your immune system," and everything will be fine, we would have buried millions more than we did.
Sorry, it's a hard fact that millions have been saved via vaccines. The argument that people from certain areas of the world eating healthy diets and not needing vaccines when they go to other countries doesn't explain pandemics that cross borders in the matter of hours and days. You might want to expand your understanding of public health history. You run a real risk bringing religion into this discussion. We have no scientific proof of an "Adam and Eve," or any medical records from the period even if they did exist.
No. You think taking antibiotics is the answer to health when that hurts health. People have weakened immune systems due to antibiotics. Taking just a month supply of them can ruin your health for 10 years.
Doctors are not trained to tell people how to take care of their immune system and pastors encourage people to eat hot dogs, ice cream and soda.
Real people eat organic, whole, unprocessed and as close to natural food as possible.
Jordan Rubin never had his kids vaccinated and they are healthier than vaccinated kids.
I thought we were discussing vaccines, not antibiotics. That's two completely different discussions. I'm address vaccines. You don't take antibiotics to PREVENT disease. They are prescribed to kill the microbes that cause disease... and yes, many antibiotics are over prescribed.
Did you actually read my post? I did not say that taking antibiotics was an answer to anything. I pointed out the difference between antibiotics and vaccines. I also wrote that I think that antibiotics are over prescribed. I was focusing on vaccines. Now, you are jumping to circumcisions. The test of your hypothesis would be to place kids around folks who have contracted these disease and just feed them only food that "real people" eat - organic, whole foods. If you hypothesis is correct, they should never contract the disease even while being exposed to it. Would you be willing to use your own kids as guinea pigs?
There is more to health than just diet, exercise and sleep. You must also get lucky at the right time of the day when you immune system is not in its tiring stage.
So, everybody supposed to wait until that sweet spot when you "get lucky at the right time"? Seriously? Not gonna take the risk. I ask you again, are you willing to put your kids in a situation of probable exposure... and just be okay because you believe that their immune system is healthy enough?
Vaccines are only needed in emergency situations like drugs are only needed in a life or death car crash. People rely too much on vaccines as if it is a guarantee to prevent. It is not. Vaccinated people still die. Therefore, it's not perfect. Circumcised boys die. Antibiotic users die. All of these are equal in the fact that there is not 100% effectiveness in them.
Do you even have a smallpox vaccination scar? Before vaccinations killed off the disease, three in ten people who contracted it died in a couple of weeks.
@goaded That's a lie. "It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we vanquished smallpox with vaccines when only 10% of the population were ever vaccinated." Dr. Glen Dettman, AMM, BA, PhD, & Archie Kalokerinos, MD, 1986. (p. 36) In the late 1960's and 1970s, Dr. Kalokerinos and Dr. Dettman discovered that some 500 out of every 1,000 Aboriginal children were dying in the Northern Territories. The cause was a type of toxic shock reaction, complicated by vitamin C deficiency, often brought on by immunisation. In a two-year period without vaccination and with improved nutrition not one child died. (p.43).
Less than 10% of the population were even vaccinated then and those that died was because they were past help anyways. Vaccinations doesn't prevent or cure the way you think it does. It may make you less susceptible to get it but never a guarantee you won't get it.
@LettuceSEEK Nobody says vaccinations guarantee you won't get it.
What happens is, the disease is given a much lower chance of transferring from a sick person to a healthy one in an environment with vaccinated people, and because the healthy ones (mostly) don't get sick when they do interact with one of the few that contracted the disease, there are fewer sick people to put others at risk.
By the way, Kalokerinos believed that vaccination schemes have been used for deliberate genocide. Which makes him a nutcase who slandered thousands of medical professionals.
#goaded That's arrogant of you to think all the doctors who has proven vaccinations kills and medicine kills to refute so. You're a true 'atheist' that you think you are and ought to have your daughters molested.
I have more more evidence than you and God didn't create us if we needed to be dependent on demonic things like vaccines.
@goaded That's arrogant of you to think all the doctors who has proven vaccinations kills and medicine kills to refute so. You're a true 'atheist' that you think you are and ought to have your daughters molested.
I have more more evidence than you and God didn't create us if we needed to be dependent on demonic things like vaccines.
@goaded I, @JamielovesKU and @warmapplecrumple knows the real facts about about and you others don't, so you all need to wake up to the facts that I presented in this mytake.
I am only banned because I called @MlleCake a bitch for calling me a moron.
Just like all mods, they think they can treat people as is but when they get treated back that way, can't handle it and act like wusses and block or ban.
Yes, they need to grow up.
Only wusses ban or block people. That's why I'm smarter than all females on this sites and at-least 99.5% of males on this site.
@LettuceSEEK So, you've been blocked by all the females on the site? That's quite an achievement and shows a level of foolishness I've never before encountered.
No they don't. You don't want to read it because you're a fool who will be schooled. Vaccines kill. You're just an agent of Satan to think you need a dependency of toxins to be healthy instead of taking good of your immune system.
@Redstang88 And people who take care of their immune system don't get sick. And the Bible says I am the Lord thy God that healeth all thy diseases. Therefore, vaccinations are unbiblical.
@Redstang88 Christianity is not religion. It is about relationships. No other 'religion' has a Holy Ghost as the comforter. Health is discussed in the Bible.
Build it by eating fermented foods, pro-biotics, whole foods and foods without all these chemicals.
I eat virtually all organic and natural foods with very rare exceptions. I'm 5'4" 134 lbs and am way healthier than other people my age.
re·li·gion noun noun: religion the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. "ideas about the relationship between science and religion" synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More sect, church, cult, denomination "the freedom to practice their own religion" a particular system of faith and worship. plural noun: religions "the world's great religions" a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
Alrighty then, let "god" save you when you get sick. And you will
@Redstang88 Says you who doesn't know what it is like having true peace in your life: the peace of Jesus will allow you to love the man who molested your 5 year old daughter, love the man who murdered your momma, love the woman who spat in your face and love the man who punched your sister. that's real love and only Jesus can provide that love.
Other than the fact that polio has been completely eliminated since the vaccine was introduced is not proof enough. Is there a minute possibility it is some absurd coincidence? Possibly, but come on, weigh the odds. And that's just one disease of the many that can be prevented. I cannot believe anyone tries to dispute the mountains of evidence vaccines work. Didn't read the articles, not going to. I have seen the effects of polio.
NOBODY should EVER have to endure that if it can be prevented, and it can be.
Look up some actual statements from real doctors and people who know what they're talking about. Vaccines are important and if we didn't have them then our lifespan would be much shorter. We'd have many children dying at young ages too. That's why people in some third world countries struggle and die much sooner than we do because they don't have vaccines or even has cures for some of those diseases.
A vaccine is just exposure to diseases in a controlled safe environment. it contains the actual viruses. But hey go rub up someone with polio or tuberculosis and let your body go through the sickeness. If you survive, you'll have a build up immunity and long term debilitations.
What about our animals we give rabies vaccines too? That protects your dumb ass from rabies too. Don't know about you but I don't want no fucking rabies.
Well as someone who was diagnosed with HPV three years I completely fucking disagree with you. I was too old to be a candidate for the HPV vaccination... but I would have gotten it in a heartbeat if I was younger. It would have saved me years of embarrassment, depression, a lowered self esteem, thousands of dollars in counseling fees (my ex told me "tough luck" when I told her about it... she had dumped me three weeks before I was diagnosed), etc.
Now I have to ask women before sex if they are vaccinated for HPV or not. Fortunately most are and things are fine. But I don't need morons like you influencing them NOT to get vaccinated hence giving them an increased likelihood of HPV infection.
Do you also want mumps, measles, hepatititis to come roaring back? You argument is completely fucking asinine. Vaccinations are necessary to avoid suffering and SAVE LIVES!
I will not have my kids be put through it because my parents were against it but if other parents want to do that to their kids, that is up to them. Everybody has the right to decide if it is worth it or not. I think it is possible to live healthy without them if you never go to a country ridden with diseases. I had a cousin who was vaccinated for mumps and he ended up having to be put on a respirator and nearly was killed because one of the ingredients in the vaccine was something he had adverse reactions to.
Our neighbour thought the same until her 3 little girls caught meningitis. Two were saved but one died. They also spread it to another family who didn't vaccinate, they lost a child too.
Go ahead. Eat right and go plunge inside a pool full of aids. Prove us wrong by example. The main reason most atheists are pro vaccine is common sense. They believe what they see. They embrace technology, advancement.
You've shown your true colors: you're not scientific, you're religious. Nobody in the scientific community cares about the illogical rantings of somebody who thinks the Earth is less than 6,000 years old or that evolution is just a lie.
@JustCallMeLeon There is no such thing as an atheist.
It is more to it than eating right. That's just a part of building a strong immune system and vaccines are not 100%. Nothing is. I provided 2 websites that exposes the dangers of vaccines. You just refuse to be encouraged by it because you're stubborn.
The Big Bang is not scientific. To be scientific, a thing must be testable, observable and repeatable. Can the Big Bang be repeated? No. Therefore, the Big Bang is not scientific. Maybe you feel good trashing a weak creationist's points but you're sadly mistaken if you think you'll defeat me with your creation vs evolution debates.
If you look at the ingredients of vaccines you'll find that they have mercury, and they have aluminum and the vaccines are polluted with other kinds of viruses and the vaccines are grown, sometimes on human tissue. So these are vaccines that have elements that are neurotoxic and then of course they have other elements that can set up autoimmune reactions. So those are the kinds of things that we're seeing in the children; we are seeing autoimmune reactions.
autoimmune reactions are due to our society being to cleanly. Go look up the TH2 hypothesis. This is why so many kids have allergies, and autoimmune diseases are on the rise.
@John_Doesnt I proved to you with 101 pieces of evidence the earth is young. Everybody is religious, even you. Atheists are some of the most religious people on the planet. You're too ignorant to understand that. Think I'm stupid, play me in a game of chess and see what's up.
I got it deleted because I called a woman a bitch for calling me a moron. @MlleCake was her name. She's allowed to cuss at me, then I'm allowed to cuss at her.
@John_Doesnt "It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we vanquished smallpox with vaccines when only 10% of the population were ever vaccinated." Dr. Glen Dettman, AMM, BA, PhD, & Archie Kalokerinos, MD, 1986. (p. 36) In the late 1960's and 1970s, Dr. Kalokerinos and Dr. Dettman discovered that some 500 out of every 1,000 Aboriginal children were dying in the Northern Territories. The cause was a type of toxic shock reaction, complicated by vitamin C deficiency, often brought on by immunisation. In a two-year period without vaccination and with improved nutrition not one child died. (p.43).
@LettuceSEEK Immunisation DOES NOT kill people, or harm your immune system. I am a physician. We use some vaccinations to rid the body of poisons a lot the TIME. You ever heard of an anti-venom before? Yeah, it's a passive immunising vaccine. Toxic shock is not induce by vitamin C deficiency nor is it done by a vaccine! It is done by killing gram-negative bacteria, which have intracellular antigens that cause an immune response. This then causes aggressive vasodilation, and results in shock. Shock is a poor perfusion of blood to organs either due to low blood volume, heart problems, or low blood pressure. Toxic shock syndrome is when a woman leaves her tampon in too long, and an infection arises from it. How do we treat Rheumatic fever? We give children a VACCINE! You know how bad rheumatic fever is? It destroys joints, your heart, skin, and kidneys. Which all can prevented with a vaccine...
@howzit2015 I don't put my faith in doctors. Of course you may be for it but there are doctors who does their research. Unfortunately, you haven't.
If I ever had to seek a doctor's care, it would be from a holistic doctor who is against vaccines, drugs and surgeries unless it's the very last option and even at that, your health is just compromised, not cured.
@howzit2015 You, like others, will always discredit whatever people against vaccines like myself, who is a 7th Day Adventist, just because you think they are making up everything and don't do studies.
There are a LOT of people in that category. But I don't vote, and I WANT to see this sick society spiral facefirst into the ground, so them voting doesn't bother me. It's amusing to watch the antics ever couple years.
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And here we have one of the most dangerous people in the world today. Not only are you a fool but you are also advocating to stop one of the most successful advancement in public health in history.
To start with not all vaccines are toxic, the very fact that you state this means you are being dishonest. It also does not mean how "healthy" your immune system is if you contract a sickness not to mention how such a thing can still spread through a population and infect people who literally can't attain a good immune system for various medical and other reasons.
You also ignore all known data regarding the effectiveness of vaccines and modern medical research. In its place you are trying to push religion and testimonies of random people. You are truly a disgusting human being.
You... don't really know how the immune system works do you?
It's like muscle, if you use it, it gets stronger. It adopts to the environment. If you don't use it then you are screwed. Do you really want to see small pox on your kids? You gotta love that right? Do you know why human population never seem to grow before the invention of vaccines?
Now, I don't really care what you do. If don't vaccinate, you and your family needs to be quarantined for the safety of the community. Why? Because you can carry and spread dangerous diseases.
After all, people kill rodents like nice and stuff because they spread diseases. You are also spreading diseases. Time to shut yourself in a box and not infect and kill kids.
None of the 7 points listed at the beginning of your myTake prove that vaccines cause damage. How soon people forget how things used to be. Only a hundred years ago illnesses that are now largely gone used to kill a great many children. Diptheria, pertussis, etc. Small pox is now virtually wiped out on this planet. Polio no longer maims children for life. Why is that? Vaccinations and the benefit of "herd immunity," which you can thank you own (presumably) good health for. Vaccination has been one of the greatest discoveries and public health advances in medical history. And the fools who choose to withhold vaccinations for their children put not only their own children at risk, but all of the population at risk. We have seen this in areas where significant numbers of parents choose not to vaccinate their kids, or where immigrants become part of the population and have not been vaccinated. There are measles outbreaks in these areas, for example, and that can be a very serious illness.
Vaccines do nothing but good. They save millions of lives. That's how diseases like Ebola were stopped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzxr9FeZf1g&ab_channel=SciShowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFPUoIXd80&ab_channel=SciShowWatch these videos.
There is also loads of videos showing the dangers of vaccines and my cousin died taking a vaccine so they don't always do nothing but good. The best good would be teaching people how to take care of their health. Not inject a needle in you full of poisons and expect a miracle.
@ClapTapGirl That wouldn't be because of the vaccine. That would have been because of the needle.
http: //rense. com/general92/polio. htm
http: //www . collective-evolution. com/2012/02/18/the-polio-vaccine-myth-the-vaccine-stopped-polio/
The polio vaccine is a myth. People in India and other poor countries get vaccinated and still get polio. The reason polio declined is because the sewer and fecal matter got to the point where it wasn't as exposed.
The medical doctor is from New Jersey and he even doesn't fall for that myth.
Source:
The MERCK Manual
Dr. Sheri Tenpenny
Off the top it first appears as though we may have been misled about how dangerous Polio really is. When Polio outbreaks were happening in the late 50’s and early 60’s, many of the adverse effects were due to the lack of clean conditions. The truth is over 90% of the cases where people contracted Polio, the symptoms experienced were very minute. Most symptoms included a slight fever, headache, sore throat, and vomiting. The recovery time was 24 – 72 hrs. Once recovered, the person now has a life time immunity to Polio. 5% of people who contracted Polio had less symptoms and recovery time was much less. They would see some sore throat and possibly a fever. Rare cases saw diarrhea. Then we get to 3% of people who had a bit more extreme cases where they may have seen some limb weakness and partial paralysis that would be experienced for 2 – 10 days.
This only happened when areas of the brain that controlled limbs were irritated by a form of viral meningitis. All cases saw a complete recovery and life long immunity. Now we get to the worst cases of them all. Less than 2% of cases saw some form of more serious paralysis. Of that 2% though 50% saw complete recovery over time from the paralysis.
@ClapTapGirl Did you not see the herd immunity part of the video?
It's all BS stats paid by the medical community. Why do you think there are so many drug commercials on television? They want to trick and deceive you.
If you want to trust the government and the medical field, go ahead. I'm going to trust nature by placing real food for us to eat thereof.
Get a needed full of poisons in you and poof, believe you are immune to it. If your immune system is weak to start with, you won't be saved. And not all people are good candidates of vaccines. Even doctors who agree with vaccines don't recommend them for every single person.
I'm not watching your videos just like you're not reading the links to the websites posted about polio myth. No offense.
@ClapTapGirl I got two questions that can debunk 99% of conspiracy theories.
If it is true, how come no proof has gotten out? For something like this, millions of people have to lie. Do you really expect someone not to write something down, or say something in their last breath?
And how does this positively affect the higher ups? The higher ups still get vaccinated.
The higher ups meaning the top 10% in wealth I assume you're talking about. Well, it's because they are brainwashed. Did you know many women like Tom Cruise and find him attractive? He's a Christian Scientologist sect and is against vaccinations, drugs, circumcisions and contraception. He has a daughter named Suri Cruise and she has never been home schooled. Because of that, she must be home schooled but that's okay because parents ought to teach education to kids, not the governmental school system.
Proof is often shut up because they are paid to hush. There is a cure for virtually all diseases but if the mainstream knew it, doctors would virtually go out of business. They'd only be needed in emergencies like vehicle wrecks or house fires. Dr. Royal Raymond Rife in 1979 in Canada found a cure for cancer that was tested on 180 people and 83% of them were cancer free 18 years later.
Source:
Cancer Defeated
PO Box 1076,
Lexington, VA 24450
Link:
https ://www . cancerdefeated. com/new
It cut it off:
https ://www . cancerdefeated . com/newsletters/The-Ultimate-Cancer-Cure-Banned-in-America. html
@ClapTapGirl At the very start is says
'Much of the material presented in this article lacks primary sources to prove its authenticity and accuracy. We've had to rely on secondary sources — in layman's terms, what somebody heard from somebody else.'
Sure they believe it's real, but it most likely isn't.
I love your use of biased sources that aren't even academic sources (studies, research, etc), really proved a point 🙄
One small example is in 1953 the US Aalone had 58,000 cases of polio. In 2016 there were 37 worldwide.
@DonkeyRick69
Also did you know that measles vaccine makes you 13 times more likely to get IBS than those not vaccinated?
@DonkeyRick69
If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpertrated.
http:/ /rense. com/ general92/polio . htm
That's a medical doctor from New Jersey doing the research.
http://www. collective-evolution. com/2012/02/18/the-polio-vaccine-myth-the-vaccine-stopped-polio/
@ClapTapGirl if it's not in a medical journal it's rarely worth the read...
Then believe the medical journal and let them deceive you.
@ClapTapGirl lol okay ciao kiddo 👋🏼
okay. Stay ignorant.
If you block me, then you'll get your account hacked.
@ClapTapGirl lol you got deactivated
Goodness, the internet is such an odd place.
@MaiNameisSunshine
No. I cancelled my own account because I want to take a break from people like you.
@Slant-WING you were posing as a 16 year old girl because?
Now you deactivated that one too. Then you accuse people of being wusses...
Worldwide use of the smallpox vaccine has all but eradicated smallpox.
Says you. How about reading everything in the articles, including the website and videos.
There is no evidence of that.
Of course there is. Smallpox was prevalent up until the 1970s, when the vaccine was introduced, and now it's almost nonexistent.
That still isn't proof. You can't know that if a person was not vaccinated that they wouldn't get smallpox because you can't be sure that smallpox would be there if they were not vaccinated.
Did you even read both websites and watch all 3 videos?
Canadian physician Dr. Andrew Moulden provided clear scientific evidence to prove that every dose of vaccine given to a child or an adult produces harm. The truth that he uncovered was rejected by the conventional medical system and the pharmaceutical industry. Nevertheless, his warning and his message to America remains as a solid legacy of the man who stood up against big pharma and their program to vaccinate every person on the Earth.
What you said is not evidence.
Never mind...
What do you mean?
It's one thing to allow such bullshit as Flat Earthers on this website, but THIS shit will kill people. This anti vax bullshit will kill people.
This article should be removed. Period.
I second this
@vacuumrats isn't active anymore the troll left but his bullshit stays.
I disagree, let the BS stand, with the comments pointing out all its flaws. Maybe people will learn.
@goaded No they won't
The sort of fucking idiot who believes this shit, is already the sort of fucking idiot who only reads headlines and facebook posts.
REMOVE IT.
I can't. Report it, if you want it removed.
@goaded It was reported, I wasn't asking you to remove it, so much as generally shouting it.
Remove this article, its a danger to society.
@Soteris @admins indeed #admins remove this BS please!
people need to be aware of what they put in their bodies'. people should be aware of what is in vaccines and smart about getting them administered. but you can't deny the reduction in diseases (and near elimination of some) that came in hand with the introduction of certain vaccines.
just the simple fact of the number of people who benefit compared to the number of people who suffer is enough to see that there is merits in getting vaccinated
1 child suffering is too many. If vaccines kills 1 person, it's too many.
@LettuceSEEK why do you want millions of kids to die?
@LettuceSEEK too many kids in the world still die daily because they're NOT vaccinated.
@jacquesvol this is true. These anti-vaccine people only learn when their kids die
@DonkeyRick69 I hope that isn't the way they'll finally understand it.
@jacquesvol unfortunately it is. I've encountered a few nutjobs like that. Meningitis doesn't care about happy thoughts and what a fraudster doctor says
it's been said but 1 child dying from a vaccine is no reason to undo years of disease and illness reduction. 1 child may die but millions if not billions have been saved. that isn't to say 1 death isn't reason to question a vaccine but it is certainly no reason to not vaccinate.
I completely disagree with this. Vaccinations are getting a bad rap based on the overwhelming minority of questionable "scientific" studies. Vaccinations saves lives. Please keep your kids away from my kids... and the rest of my family if you refuse to get them. You are a public health hazard.
II bet you didn't read both websites and watch all 3 videos. If not, then you have no right to comment.
My kids would definitely be healthier than your kids. So it should be keep your kids away from my kids.
Actually, since you posted the question, I obviously do have a right to comment. I'm sorry if it bothers you that people disagree with you. This is not a joke. I go with solid research. Here are some stats regarding what has been happening since so many people have been jumping on the no vaccine bandwagon: blogs.scientificamerican.com/.../
You have to know what they said to disagree with it.
www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/doctors-against-vaccines-hear-from-those-who-have-done-the-research
Debunk this.
No. I'm surprised at the stubbornness that people who think vaccinations is the answer to life's health. If people were taught how to protect their immune system, they wouldn't need vaccines.
For every vaccine website you show, I can show an anti vaccine website. You pick the wrong side like all others.
If those people took care of their immune system, they wouldn't need vaccines.
It is isn't a secret that many docs are against vaccines or that the AMA has been accused of corruption. I read the piece. It doesn't address the reality of what's going on in the big picture. In the source I posted, there has been data tracking regarding outbreak rates and the DECLINE of vaccinations. How do you explain that? The evidence is clear.
No it isn't. They were of people who are naturally prone to weakened immune systems. The people who have strong immune systems don't need disease.
You use Africans and other nations as examples. Go to Iowa, Missouri or extremely healthy pastures where people are fed an extremely healthy diet and vaccines are not needed when they go to poorer countries.
Adam and Eve never got vaccines and they were extremely healthy.
Right! That's exactly the course that was taken with polio, measles and a host of other disease. Are you kidding? If the message from the public health community was "just take care of your immune system," and everything will be fine, we would have buried millions more than we did.
Sorry, it's a hard fact that millions have been saved via vaccines. The argument that people from certain areas of the world eating healthy diets and not needing vaccines when they go to other countries doesn't explain pandemics that cross borders in the matter of hours and days. You might want to expand your understanding of public health history. You run a real risk bringing religion into this discussion. We have no scientific proof of an "Adam and Eve," or any medical records from the period even if they did exist.
No. You think taking antibiotics is the answer to health when that hurts health. People have weakened immune systems due to antibiotics. Taking just a month supply of them can ruin your health for 10 years.
Doctors are not trained to tell people how to take care of their immune system and pastors encourage people to eat hot dogs, ice cream and soda.
Real people eat organic, whole, unprocessed and as close to natural food as possible.
Jordan Rubin never had his kids vaccinated and they are healthier than vaccinated kids.
I thought we were discussing vaccines, not antibiotics. That's two completely different discussions. I'm address vaccines. You don't take antibiotics to PREVENT disease. They are prescribed to kill the microbes that cause disease... and yes, many antibiotics are over prescribed.
Vaccines are like circumcision. They are both claimed to be healthy and beneficial but they damage you.
www.patientcareonline.com/.../circumcision-and-vaccines-twins-separated-birth
Did you actually read my post? I did not say that taking antibiotics was an answer to anything. I pointed out the difference between antibiotics and vaccines. I also wrote that I think that antibiotics are over prescribed. I was focusing on vaccines. Now, you are jumping to circumcisions. The test of your hypothesis would be to place kids around folks who have contracted these disease and just feed them only food that "real people" eat - organic, whole foods. If you hypothesis is correct, they should never contract the disease even while being exposed to it. Would you be willing to use your own kids as guinea pigs?
Not never but at a rate lower that vaccines supposedly do.
There is more to health than just diet, exercise and sleep. You must also get lucky at the right time of the day when you immune system is not in its tiring stage.
So, everybody supposed to wait until that sweet spot when you "get lucky at the right time"? Seriously? Not gonna take the risk. I ask you again, are you willing to put your kids in a situation of probable exposure... and just be okay because you believe that their immune system is healthy enough?
The sad thing is you believe vaccines is a perfect system. It's not. Just like social security is a form of slavery.
http://www.mercyseat.net/ssnarticle.html
Vaccines are only needed in emergency situations like drugs are only needed in a life or death car crash. People rely too much on vaccines as if it is a guarantee to prevent. It is not. Vaccinated people still die. Therefore, it's not perfect. Circumcised boys die. Antibiotic users die. All of these are equal in the fact that there is not 100% effectiveness in them.
Do you even have a smallpox vaccination scar? Before vaccinations killed off the disease, three in ten people who contracted it died in a couple of weeks.
upload.wikimedia.org/.../...mallpox_Bangladesh.jpg
@goaded
That's a lie.
"It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we vanquished smallpox with vaccines when only 10% of the population were ever vaccinated." Dr. Glen Dettman, AMM, BA, PhD, & Archie Kalokerinos, MD, 1986. (p. 36) In the late 1960's and 1970s, Dr. Kalokerinos and Dr. Dettman discovered that some 500 out of every 1,000 Aboriginal children were dying in the Northern Territories. The cause was a type of toxic shock reaction, complicated by vitamin C deficiency, often brought on by immunisation. In a two-year period without vaccination and with improved nutrition not one child died. (p.43).
Less than 10% of the population were even vaccinated then and those that died was because they were past help anyways. Vaccinations doesn't prevent or cure the way you think it does. It may make you less susceptible to get it but never a guarantee you won't get it.
@LettuceSEEK Nobody says vaccinations guarantee you won't get it.
What happens is, the disease is given a much lower chance of transferring from a sick person to a healthy one in an environment with vaccinated people, and because the healthy ones (mostly) don't get sick when they do interact with one of the few that contracted the disease, there are fewer sick people to put others at risk.
By the way, Kalokerinos believed that vaccination schemes have been used for deliberate genocide. Which makes him a nutcase who slandered thousands of medical professionals.
@goaded
I guess both sides has their evidence and you pick a side?
Just report this LettuceSEEK freak for having duplicate accounts since his Rat account was deleted, and he claims to have more...
@LettuceSEEK No, one side has evidence, the other has anecdotes.
@Euph0ria I don't block and rarely report people, I prefer to just keep talking until it's obvious they're wrong.
#goaded
That's arrogant of you to think all the doctors who has proven vaccinations kills and medicine kills to refute so. You're a true 'atheist' that you think you are and ought to have your daughters molested.
I have more more evidence than you and God didn't create us if we needed to be dependent on demonic things like vaccines.
@goad. Read it?
@goaded
Did you read it?
@goaded
That's arrogant of you to think all the doctors who has proven vaccinations kills and medicine kills to refute so. You're a true 'atheist' that you think you are and ought to have your daughters molested.
I have more more evidence than you and God didn't create us if we needed to be dependent on demonic things like vaccines.
@LettuceSEEK Grow up.
@goaded
I, @JamielovesKU and @warmapplecrumple knows the real facts about about and you others don't, so you all need to wake up to the facts that I presented in this mytake.
I am only banned because I called @MlleCake a bitch for calling me a moron.
Just like all mods, they think they can treat people as is but when they get treated back that way, can't handle it and act like wusses and block or ban.
Yes, they need to grow up.
Only wusses ban or block people. That's why I'm smarter than all females on this sites and at-least 99.5% of males on this site.
@LettuceSEEK So, you've been blocked by all the females on the site? That's quite an achievement and shows a level of foolishness I've never before encountered.
@LettuceSEEK I didn't see you calling me a bitch. In what way were you banned?
@LettuceSEEK troll
Not even worth reading. Total horseshit.
Vaccines work. Period.
No they don't. You don't want to read it because you're a fool who will be schooled. Vaccines kill. You're just an agent of Satan to think you need a dependency of toxins to be healthy instead of taking good of your immune system.
Healthy people don't need vaccines.
No shit they don't, its sick people that do.
@Redstang88
And people who take care of their immune system don't get sick. And the Bible says I am the Lord thy God that healeth all thy diseases. Therefore, vaccinations are unbiblical.
1- Religion is NOT relevant to this debate.
2- How exactly does one "build a healthy immune system"?
@Redstang88
Christianity is not religion. It is about relationships. No other 'religion' has a Holy Ghost as the comforter. Health is discussed in the Bible.
Build it by eating fermented foods, pro-biotics, whole foods and foods without all these chemicals.
I eat virtually all organic and natural foods with very rare exceptions. I'm 5'4" 134 lbs and am way healthier than other people my age.
re·li·gion
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:
faith, belief, worship, creed; More
sect, church, cult, denomination
"the freedom to practice their own religion"
a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
Alrighty then, let "god" save you when you get sick. And you will
@Redstang88
You lump Christianity like it's Muslim, Buddhism, Sikhism and don't differentiate.
Same shit, different pile
@Redstang88
Says you who doesn't know what it is like having true peace in your life: the peace of Jesus will allow you to love the man who molested your 5 year old daughter, love the man who murdered your momma, love the woman who spat in your face and love the man who punched your sister. that's real love and only Jesus can provide that love.
If that's your definition of true peace I want no part of it.
That's right, #bringbackpolio #smallpoxarefun #yaymeasles
That sounds like a #ThrowbackThursday 😂😂
Lemme get some of them #rabies too
@assley oh yeah those are the best!
So the fact that there have been ZERO cases of polio since the vaccine was introduced is pure coincidence?
People can do what they want with their own health, but those that refuse to vaccinate kids should be shot.
You should be shot for wanting to force vaccines on people.
The evidence was overwhelming. Did you even read the entire articles?
It's speculation. You can't prove that if people didn't get polio vaccines that they would have received polio.
Other than the fact that polio has been completely eliminated since the vaccine was introduced is not proof enough. Is there a minute possibility it is some absurd coincidence? Possibly, but come on, weigh the odds.
And that's just one disease of the many that can be prevented. I cannot believe anyone tries to dispute the mountains of evidence vaccines work.
Didn't read the articles, not going to. I have seen the effects of polio.
NOBODY should EVER have to endure that if it can be prevented, and it can be.
Vaccines has proven to kill people. It is not 00% safe. You're risking your health by receiving vaccines.
If you didn't read the entire articles and watch the entire videos, then you have no right to comment your take until then.
Look up some actual statements from real doctors and people who know what they're talking about. Vaccines are important and if we didn't have them then our lifespan would be much shorter. We'd have many children dying at young ages too. That's why people in some third world countries struggle and die much sooner than we do because they don't have vaccines or even has cures for some of those diseases.
People like you are the reason why we have diseases that were extinct coming back because your a pussy who can't take a vaccination. 🙄🙄
A vaccine is just exposure to diseases in a controlled safe environment. it contains the actual viruses. But hey go rub up someone with polio or tuberculosis and let your body go through the sickeness. If you survive, you'll have a build up immunity and long term debilitations.
What about our animals we give rabies vaccines too? That protects your dumb ass from rabies too. Don't know about you but I don't want no fucking rabies.
Well as someone who was diagnosed with HPV three years I completely fucking disagree with you. I was too old to be a candidate for the HPV vaccination... but I would have gotten it in a heartbeat if I was younger. It would have saved me years of embarrassment, depression, a lowered self esteem, thousands of dollars in counseling fees (my ex told me "tough luck" when I told her about it... she had dumped me three weeks before I was diagnosed), etc.
Now I have to ask women before sex if they are vaccinated for HPV or not. Fortunately most are and things are fine. But I don't need morons like you influencing them NOT to get vaccinated hence giving them an increased likelihood of HPV infection.
Do you also want mumps, measles, hepatititis to come roaring back? You argument is completely fucking asinine. Vaccinations are necessary to avoid suffering and SAVE LIVES!
I will not have my kids be put through it because my parents were against it but if other parents want to do that to their kids, that is up to them. Everybody has the right to decide if it is worth it or not. I think it is possible to live healthy without them if you never go to a country ridden with diseases. I had a cousin who was vaccinated for mumps and he ended up having to be put on a respirator and nearly was killed because one of the ingredients in the vaccine was something he had adverse reactions to.
Our neighbour thought the same until her 3 little girls caught meningitis. Two were saved but one died. They also spread it to another family who didn't vaccinate, they lost a child too.
@DonkeyRick69
So it works both ways.
I hope this is a joke. If people really are this stupid I have no hope for humanity.
Of course the woman whose son almost was killed didn't think it was a joke when she had him vaccinated.
Did you even read the material in both websites and watch all 3 videos or did you already have a predetermined thought?
Of course you're for vaccines. You're a so called 'atheist'. You can't name 1 'atheist' who is against vaccines.
What the hell has the fact he's an atheist has to do with this?
@JustCallMeLeon
It shows that they will go against it due to it hurting God.
Name 1 'atheist' that is against vaccines then. Bet you can't.
Go ahead. Eat right and go plunge inside a pool full of aids. Prove us wrong by example. The main reason most atheists are pro vaccine is common sense. They believe what they see. They embrace technology, advancement.
You've shown your true colors: you're not scientific, you're religious. Nobody in the scientific community cares about the illogical rantings of somebody who thinks the Earth is less than 6,000 years old or that evolution is just a lie.
@JustCallMeLeon
There is no such thing as an atheist.
It is more to it than eating right. That's just a part of building a strong immune system and vaccines are not 100%. Nothing is. I provided 2 websites that exposes the dangers of vaccines. You just refuse to be encouraged by it because you're stubborn.
The Big Bang is not scientific. To be scientific, a thing must be testable, observable and repeatable. Can the Big Bang be repeated? No. Therefore, the Big Bang is not scientific. Maybe you feel good trashing a weak creationist's points but you're sadly mistaken if you think you'll defeat me with your creation vs evolution debates.
http://www.heavennet.net/writings/atheist.htm
You're even dumber than I thought. Now you're just making shit up.
I'm one of the 10 smartest men on this website.
No, you're one of the lowest.
waterfromthrock.files.wordpress.com/.../...rus.jpg
I already debunked that.
apologetics-notes.comereason.org/.../...-myth.html
coldcasechristianity.com/.../
If you look at the ingredients of vaccines you'll find that they have mercury, and they have aluminum and the vaccines are polluted with other kinds of viruses and the vaccines are grown, sometimes on human tissue. So these are vaccines that have elements that are neurotoxic and then of course they have other elements that can set up autoimmune reactions. So those are the kinds of things that we're seeing in the children; we are seeing autoimmune reactions.
autoimmune reactions are due to our society being to cleanly. Go look up the TH2 hypothesis. This is why so many kids have allergies, and autoimmune diseases are on the rise.
@howzit2015 vacuum-rats just got his account deleted so we won't be hearing from him again.
lol wonder why?
"Vacuum-Rats 1 Xper Age: 26
I'm one of the 10 smartest men on this website."
BWHAHAHA! Omg, that's some good stuff! This guy is such a laugh!
@John_Doesnt
I proved to you with 101 pieces of evidence the earth is young. Everybody is religious, even you. Atheists are some of the most religious people on the planet. You're too ignorant to understand that. Think I'm stupid, play me in a game of chess and see what's up.
@howzit2015
I am Vaccum-Rats.
I got it deleted because I called a woman a bitch for calling me a moron. @MlleCake was her name. She's allowed to cuss at me, then I'm allowed to cuss at her.
@LettuceSEEK lol, yeah, that's weird and hypocritical. Kinda knew it was you based on similar writing styles, and similar beliefs/ideologies.
@LettuceSEEK I think you're a common troll because this is my only account and I've been here for 2 years.
@John_Doesnt
Unless somebody hacks your account, then you'll come back.
Do it bother anyone else that this mans vote has the same value or worth as you or I?
does it*
it bothers me greatly. Especially if this man lives in a swing state.
@John_Doesnt
"It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we vanquished smallpox with vaccines when only 10% of the population were ever vaccinated." Dr. Glen Dettman, AMM, BA, PhD, & Archie Kalokerinos, MD, 1986. (p. 36) In the late 1960's and 1970s, Dr. Kalokerinos and Dr. Dettman discovered that some 500 out of every 1,000 Aboriginal children were dying in the Northern Territories. The cause was a type of toxic shock reaction, complicated by vitamin C deficiency, often brought on by immunisation. In a two-year period without vaccination and with improved nutrition not one child died. (p.43).
@John_Doesnt
It's me, dude. Remember yesterday's messages 1 on 1 about the 13 scientists?
@LettuceSEEK Immunisation DOES NOT kill people, or harm your immune system. I am a physician. We use some vaccinations to rid the body of poisons a lot the TIME. You ever heard of an anti-venom before? Yeah, it's a passive immunising vaccine. Toxic shock is not induce by vitamin C deficiency nor is it done by a vaccine! It is done by killing gram-negative bacteria, which have intracellular antigens that cause an immune response. This then causes aggressive vasodilation, and results in shock. Shock is a poor perfusion of blood to organs either due to low blood volume, heart problems, or low blood pressure. Toxic shock syndrome is when a woman leaves her tampon in too long, and an infection arises from it. How do we treat Rheumatic fever? We give children a VACCINE! You know how bad rheumatic fever is? It destroys joints, your heart, skin, and kidneys. Which all can prevented with a vaccine...
Toxic shock syndrome is also due to skin infections.
@howzit2015
I don't put my faith in doctors. Of course you may be for it but there are doctors who does their research. Unfortunately, you haven't.
If I ever had to seek a doctor's care, it would be from a holistic doctor who is against vaccines, drugs and surgeries unless it's the very last option and even at that, your health is just compromised, not cured.
@howzit2015
You, like others, will always discredit whatever people against vaccines like myself, who is a 7th Day Adventist, just because you think they are making up everything and don't do studies.
@LettuceSEEK LOL, omg, you're hilarious. True reflection of the flaws of our education system. Good luck with that, boy.
Okay but at-least I'll be healthier than all those vaccine users. My own sister kicked me in the nuts for being against vaccines.
@LettuceSEEK yeah, cause she's smart and you're a dumbass troll.
She kicked me in heels tho. Was down 13 minutes in pain.
Just because I'm anti-vaccine, doesn't mean I'm lying about it. I can say all the pro vaccine people are lying.
Just report this LettuceSEEK freak for having duplicate accounts since his Rat account was deleted, and he claims to have more...
samhradh_leannan
You don't care that MlleCake called me a moron tho, eh?
There are a LOT of people in that category. But I don't vote, and I WANT to see this sick society spiral facefirst into the ground, so them voting doesn't bother me. It's amusing to watch the antics ever couple years.