THE FLU SHOT: Are you for it or against it?

[DontDropIt]

THE FLU SHOT: Are you for it or against it?

I am allll for the Flu Shot.

Helllll no I don't want that shit.

Updates

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*inserts Michael Jackson popcorn gif*

[7heDubz]

Myth: You can get the flu, or a mild case of it, from the flu vaccine.

The flu vaccine injection contains no live virus, only viral proteins, said Dr. Dennis Cunningham, an infectious disease specialist at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio.

"It's impossible to get the flu, and it's impossible to spread the flu," from the injection, Cunningham said.

After the injection, some people may experience pain in the arm near the injection site, or develop a low fever — this is a reaction to the vaccine, not a true influenza infection, not even a mild one, he said.

"People with this reaction are able to go to work, that is not the case with the flu. With an influenza infection, you're flat on your back, you're exhausted, hot and hurt," he said.

The flu vaccine that is delivered as a nasal spray, rather than as injection, does contain live viruses, but these viruses have been weakened, and so they also cannot cause the flu, according to the CDC.

Myth: The flu vaccine may not be safe for pregnant women or babies.

The flu vaccine is safe for pregnant women, and for babies older than 6 months, Cunningham said.

In fact, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (the leading group of women's health care physicians) recommends that pregnant women be vaccinated against the flu. "No study to date has shown an adverse consequence of inactivated influenza vaccine in pregnant women or their offspring," according to the ACOG.

The CDC notes that pregnant women should receive the vaccine by injection, not nasal spray.

The flu can be particularly severe for pregnant women, because the body reduces its normal level of immune system function during pregnancy, Cunningham said. For example, during the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic, pregnant women accounted for a disproportionate number of deaths. This year's flu vaccine includes a strain of the H1N1 virus.

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Additionally, the rate of preterm birth among women infected with H1N1 was 30 percent; more than double the usual rate in the U. S. of 13 percent, according to the CDC. Other research has suggested the flu vaccine during pregnancy is linked with a lower risk of stillbirth.

Vaccinated women may also lower their risk infecting their newborns, Cunningham said.

The American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC recommend that children over 6 months old receive the flu shot. Unvaccinated children have a higher risk of dying from the flu than those are vaccinated, research has shown.

Myth: Antibiotics can fight the flu if you get it.

Antibiotics only kill bacteria, but the flu is caused by a virus.

There are anti-viral drugs that can fight flu infections, Cunningham said, but they've only been shown to work when they're given with 48 hours of the start of symptoms. "Most people, by the time they go to the doctor, they're past the 48-hour mark," he said.

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For patients hospitalized with severe flu, the drugs may help, he said. But they aren't a cure, and for most people who aren't hospitalized, they may only cut down on the duration of the flu by a day or two.

Myth: You don't need to get the flu vaccine if you got it last year — the strains are basically the same.

There are two reasons why it's recommended that people get the flu vaccine every year, Cunningham said.

One reason yearly vaccination is needed is that the strains of the flu virus that are circulating change from year to year. "It's like the common cold — there's more than one type of virus that cause the flu," in fact, there are hundreds of flu viruses, he said.

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Each year, health officials identify the viruses that are the most likely to cause illness during the upcoming flu season, according to the CDC.

The vaccine for the 2012-2013 flu season, protects against two type A influenza viruses (one is a strain of the 2009 H1N1 virus, the other is a strain called H3N2), and an influenza B virus.

One of these viruses (the H1N1 virus) was also used to make last year's vaccine, but the H3N2 and B viruses are different from the strains used to make last year's vaccine.

[7heDubz]

The second reason a flu shot is needed every year is that the immunity that develops after getting the shot wanes by the following year. "If you get your shot in August, you'll be safe though March, but those antibodies won't be for the next flu season," Cunningham said.

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Myth: The flu vaccine contains thiomerosal, which may be harmful.

Thiomerosal — a preservative that contains mercury — has never been shown to be harmful, Cunningham said. The type of mercury linked with nervous system damage is methyl mercury, he said. Concerns over methyl mercury levels have led to recommendations that pregnant women avoid eating large amounts of certain types of fish, such as swordfish.

In contrast, thiomerosal is an ethyl mercury compound.

Still, because the preservative raised controversy, especially over a now-disproven link to autism, it was taken out of almost all U. S. vaccines starting in 2001, Cunningham said.

The injectable form flu vaccine is available to health care providers in two ways — they can get large bottles of it, which contain many doses, or they can small bottles, which contain an individual dose of the vaccine.

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There is a tiny amount of thiomerosal in the multidose bottles. The preservative ensures that no bacteria will grow in the vaccine, Cunningham said. The individual-dose bottles contain no thiomersal. People concerned about the compounds effects can ask their provider for an individual dose.

The nasal spray form of the flu vaccine contains no thiomerosal, he noted.

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Myth: Getting the flu can be a pain, but it's not really a serious disease, so vaccination isn't helpful.

"The flu is certainly a very serious disease," Cunningham said.

Every year, there are typically between 15 million and 60 million cases of the flu reported, Cunningham said. More than 200,000 people with the flu are admitted to hospitals yearly.

Between 3,000 and 50,000 people in the U. S. die of the flu yearly.

One reason people may not perceive the flu as being serious is that cases of the "stomach flu" are mistaken for influenza virus infections.

"True influenza is an infection of the lungs and respiratory tract," Cunningham said. Infected people may develop a high fever, body aches and nasal congestion, he said.

People with the stomach flu — which is commonly caused by a virus called norovirus — have diarrhea, cramping and other gastrointestinal symptoms. Influenza does not cause such symptoms.

Pass it on: Myths still exist regarding the flu vaccine.

[Qwazihomo]

I like this guy

[DontDropIt]

Thank you but all I asked was if you were for it or against it lol

[7heDubz]

To many people here are against it and it concerns me, with so many people not getting the vaccine I'd just like to put that here so that they can know that they are fucking wrong.

[Qwazihomo]

Lol yeah i noticed it too

[knotme]

I'm in the healthcare field, and I don't believe everything they say. You should take note of that as well. In the case of pregnancy and medication. I would try my best not to put anything in my body while the baby is growing or nursing

[Anonymous]

I vote C. I couldn't care less about it. If I get it, I get it. If I don't I don't. I honestly don't remember the last time I've received any kind of shot. The last shot I've had was a tetanus shot about 10 years ago. I was probably... 10-11 years old the last time I've had the flu shot. Funny thing. When I got the flu shot, I would get the flu at least once a year. Ever since I stopped getting the flu shot. I have not gotten the flu. So, it's been about 13-14 years the last time I've had the flu.

[Anonymous]

I'm against it because it doesn't work well for me, it gives me flu instead of protecting me... I noticed, everytime I get flu shot, I feel weak and after a week, I get a flu so bad... when I don't get a flu shot, I never had a flu, ever.. coincidence? no.. I know myslef/my body/health better..
My dad is the same too, but he don't get a flu, he gets bad whooping cough instead then turns to colds...
I believe not everyone reacts with the same results with these shots so no matter what experts say, I still believe in myself since they don't know how my immune system reacts with it... they generalize their information to all humans since all of us have this "system" but still, we are all unique in terms of how our body responds to it..

[herekitty]

I know the vaccine was created for a reason and it does have a good purpose but persoanally I don't agree with getting the flu jab. I have never received a flu jab and always rely on more natural methods to get through a cold/flu. My mother got the flu jab and so far I have seen nothing good come of it she still currently has a flu. have also spoken to friends and colleagues who claim that the jab has had no effect. Maybe it's good for the little ones and the elderly or for peopel with weakened immunity, but it'll never be my cup of tea.

[DontDropIt]

I hear ya!!

[William_Kendrick]

having kids, i say : get the god damn shot, you idiots. all it is is the virus with its legs cut off... literally.

if you dont think so, then take said sample to a biologist and ask them to study it..

otherwise, shut the hell up and get the damn shot.

[DontDropIt]

Fiesty

[Deadinside10]

The shot yal think protects yal can actually kill you most of them are preserved in mercury if not all nver got the flu never got a flu shot I just eat what is right keep good hygene and work out the most I've ever gotton is sore throats but thats from yelling mostly. also the fact they could put a small microchip in it scares me off or put who knows what and what if it isn't what they say it is. would you really risk you're body because you think you're government is 100% honest?

[DontDropIt]

Exactly!

[Deadinside10]

If my Government was 100% honest and open id say sure but when they keep so many secrets you sure as hell dont know thier are natural cures for cancer aids and many other things but because they make billions off treatments and PX/perscriptions they will kill and eliminate those who would cut that flow of money off. Our Government is worse then what people are ever going to truly know.

[Qwazihomo]

The government isn't putting microchips in vaccines.

[Deadinside10]

could you say you're 100% right? and I didn't say they are im saying they could!

[CuriousEddie]

He's right... how do you know you're 100% right. Could you prove 100% that it isn't really some sort of alien cell that they are putting in vaccines, and could you prove it really isn't aliens that just look like humans who are injecting them into us to make them into their alien labor workforce?

You can't prove it 100%, can you?

[7heDubz]

Or your an idiot that is idiotic.

It takes one hell of a psychopath that could keep that kind of cure a secret. They could make more off the cure then they could from treatments. Imagine how much other countries would pay us to have that?

[Deadinside10]

sure why not send it to other countries bribe them etc while they make millions off us I could see such a possibility as far as @CuriousEddie goes fuck off seriously aliens? speak something intelligent ya MORON! otherwise go bother and insult the conspiracy wackos.

[RasmusAiken]

I'm for it. I've taken it every year for seven years and never had a problem and never had the flu. People around me were dropping like flies - out for 5-7 days sick.

I chose the Quadrivalent vaccine. . . more is better, ya know! The most uncomfortable part of it was pulling off the stupid Band-aid that I really didn't need.

[HeyJustBeingMe]

I've had a few as a kid.. but if it had to be done now i probably wouldn't take one..
in my eyes it weakens my body.
i rather be sick a few days or weeks so my body can recover from it by it self than to have a flu shot.

i also can't remember getting actually sick in the last 9 years..

[Creole_Flavor]

I'm against it. I have not been vaccinated for the flu since I was a child. I have been around people who get the flu all the time and have never caught the flu. Some of them have got the shot and some did not, but still got the flu. I never get the flu and I don't feel that I need to get vaccinated. I think it has a lot to do with your immune system and overall health. I am super healthy I pretty much never get sick.

[abzence]

Eat healthy, exercise and intake lots of vitamin c and you are good to go.
It's interesting that pretty much the rest of the world can manage without those yearly flu shots but some how the people in America can't.

[DontDropIt]

blinded by the lies that's all that is lol

[abzence]

Yupp. And it's especially easy for me to see those lies from my perspective from Sweden. I wouldn't take those flu shots if I was paid $1000 to do it.

[DodgersGM]

I've never gotten the flu shot and I'd like to never have to get one. I'm a healthy young adult and I rarely get sick, and I plan on doing the things that are in my control to keep it that way.

[DontDropIt]

That's good to hear! :)

[DontDropIt]

*read lol

[DodgersGM]

Haha thanks! :-)

[Anonymous]

No I don't bother. The flu shot is no good. They just create their own version of the virus that they think it will look like and then give it to your body so you can fight it off. The flu shot gets many people sick and the flu shot they gave you doesn't help you against the many other variations of flus out there

[DontDropIt]

Agreed.

[Opinion Owner]

It's just a way to make money and get rid of toxic materials in the process. The materials in the flu shot are horrible for a persons body

[Deadinside10]

so few of us know the truth man

[7heDubz]

I have done extensive studying on both side and have concluded that quite a lot of what you hear about them is lies.

[findingdreamland]

Hell no. When I get shot, I become more sick more than regular. Plus, virus changes every year. I don't what is the point.

[BassistForever]

I've gotten the flu before and it was really REALLY bad.
So I'm definitely for the flu shot.
I don't have time for the flu.

[been_waiting]

I'm not against it but I'm tired of getting them. I get one every year because my mother forces me and I've gotten the flu three times regardless. They're not very effective.

[JustinCaseUDontKnow]

I never took the flu vaccination but often wonder about getting it
I'm very scared about the flu but the vaccination scares me to get it

[chocolatedragon]

It's a vaccine that protects us.
Why would be against it?

[DontDropIt]

Are you aware of what's in it?

[chocolatedragon]

Whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger:p

[7heDubz]

@Asker What's in it that is so bad? Tell me so i may disprove you.

[DontDropIt]

You are going mighty hard for this flu shot. Am I missing something? Does the gov't have you on pay roll? What is it? @7heDubz

[7heDubz]

Nope, Just want to learn those that are to ignorant and to wanting to think the gov't is such a bad thing. they have their bad parts but are here to ultimately help you.

[Illusive_Man]

1 little shot a year for a year worth of protection.
It ain't so bad.

[CommieDearest]

I don't get it personally, but I'm not against getting it. I'm just a lazy fuck.

[Roxxy99]

I've gotten the shot every year for the past 6 years and have not gotten sick in that time, so I'm definitely a believer in it.

[JangusRoundstone]

i don't see why its necessary to introduce more virus into your body because you "might" catch the flu.

[7heDubz]

You introduce the protein to help start to build defenses against it. It does not introduce the virus in any harmful way.

[JangusRoundstone]

yeah and vaccinations might or might not cause autism, they're still not sure. i don't really think modern medicine is all that forsure still. plus I'm young still so i can fight off the flu no problem, as i have before.

[aamy811]

Definetly. Modern medicine has helped us a lot and I'm pretty sure it's kept millions from getting illnesses. So yes I've already gotten my flushot

[knotme]

I don't want that shit, but I have to get it, its not an option for me

[DontDropIt]

Yea that sucks! my mother is in the same boat

[sawno]

Every time i had one as a kid i got sick.
So no thanks i rather not unless i could die otherwise.

[Qwazihomo]

Haha its stupid not to get it. Its either getting a shot and possibly getting the flu yet become protected or not and definitely get it.

[DontDropIt]

That's not true if you take care of yourself.

[Qwazihomo]

Yeah but if some dude with the flu hugs you or something. Its just silly not to just get a shot. Unless you're like into natural meds and all that stuff

[DontDropIt]

I'd rather take the natural meds then lol

[7heDubz]

It doesn't matter how "fit" you are. If you body contracts an unkown virus it's going to wreak havoc on your body the first few times.

If you get vaccinated you don't have those first few times and you straight up won't get it as much.

[DontDropIt]

Who said anything about being "fit" though? O_O @7heDubz

[CuriousEddie]

But if you take care of yourself, nothing can happen. Not flu, not food poisoning, not cancer, not card accidents. You just have to be natural.

[7heDubz]

https://puu.sh/bO0xI/93dcc6d8b6.png
Kindly explain what this means then.

[PANDAmonium]

I always get it. This year however it was mandatory for me to get it for my program.

[Anonymous]

Myself and a family member both got took a flu shot several years ago. We took it at different times and all. in about 3 days or less we came down with the worst case of the flu we ever had and neither one of us will touch another flu shot.

[Bop123]

i have been told many times that it gives you the sickness so u can get over it i guess and then you won't get it again

[DontDropIt]

Oh man that's awful.

[Opinion Owner]

Won't get it again. I guess so since it was a very bad case of it. We hacked for weeks and it was no different than catching the flu on our own. So I can't see why we would volunteer it.

[7heDubz]

Proven time and time again, the flu SHOT contains only proteins, NO LIVE VIRUS AT ALL PERIOD EVER. It is however going to take longer then 3 fucking days to go through your system and start strengthening it.

Come on people.

[Opinion Owner]

Proven time and time again, my butt. We are living proof what you said is bologna. Longer than 3 days when your directly injected with the virus? I don't think so!

[Anonymous]

I hate having the flu with a passion, so I'm all for the Flu shot. It barely hurts, so it's not that bad.

[Kris85]

Nope. No flu shot for me.

[DontDropIt]

I'm with you!

[aamy811]

Lol why?

[Kris85]

Why would I take it? I got the shot once in my life about 11 years ago for work and two weeks later I had the flu. I get the flu every couple years and I am still alive. I prefer my body to fight it on it's own. I had H1N1 back in 2009, and I am still here. I don't let the media scare me into getting vaccines I don't need which is the flu shot

[DontDropIt]

Did you work for the government? My mom does and they're required to get it.

[Kris85]

No in healthcare. I am actually back in the healthcare field and they are recommended. I don't plan to get one though

[DontDropIt]

sorry! healthcare is what I meant.

[7heDubz]

https://puu.sh/bO9oS/dd54dc6dcf.png
you guys.. such a misconception that it gives you the flu.. The shot does not give you the flu it's impossible.

It also only strengthens you, doesn't make you superhuman.

[front2back]

I get one every year.

I'm not f**king around with a disease that kills half a million people each year and over 50 million in one go.

[douride2]

I'm neither for or against the flu shot. I have only ever gotten the shot once. I seldom ever come down with it so why get it.

[Anonymous]

I have to get one to work in the ED and with EMS.

I react to it, causes tardive dyskinesia

[SandPlanet]

I'm definitely for it.

[Florida_Gator_Girl]

nope I always got super sick when I got one..

[MaskofInsanity]

For it.

Filler.

[Anonymous]

Third option: Indifferent.

[yaddayaddayadda02]

I get one annually.

[JackSk3llington]

Makes your balls shrink, don't do it fellas.

[DontDropIt]

Hahahahahah

[daisymazy]

Against it
I don't want that harmful crap in me

[daisymazy]

downvote ferrrrwhatttt?

[DontDropIt]

I didn't do it so I don't know

[Maazin]

Whats that? MJ