I'm an omnivore. I like to eat meat (although I don't eat that much meat) and I think it's healthier than being a vegetarian. I get my proteins, B12 and iron.
I think you really have to have a special diet to maintain a vegetarian for a longer time (since malnutrition only has effect when it's going on for a while). I'd rather eat a little bit of meat.
About the morality, you can also think of it in an other way. Do you think it's moral to not give a lot of animals a chance to live at all? They breed animals and maybe they don't always have an enjoyable life, but they got to live and isn't the instinct of the animal to life no matter what?
If a horse will break it's leg, will never be able to walk and will have pain for the rest of it's life, if it was up to the animal it would still life right?
Maybe we think in a too much of a human way of animals. Animals aren't the same as humans.
You're not an omnivore you're a herbivore that eats meat.
You can feed a deer or a human all the steak you want but it's still a herbivore ;)
"then why do we have the teeth of a omnivore?" Simple we don't. Omnivores and carnivores have conical incisors and pronounced canines while herbivores have spade shaped incisors (like ours) and canines that are either absent, blunted (like ours) or pronounced. Omnivores and herbivores both have flattened incisors. Also, not all herbivores can digest cellulose (granivores and frugivores can't).
Humans are a species of animals... We have just developed more complex speech and are brains are different to some others (but very similar to chimps, pigs and dolphins) and in terms of how we look, humans aren't even supposed to walk standing up yet, are spines are made for walking on all fours!
We are pretty much exactly the same as animals. That's why its completely barbaric to slaughter them, taking away their life and putting them through horrific pain just to eat their flesh. Its evil!
Vegetarian of course.
Don't even try to argue with me here if you haven't watched Earthlings. DON'T. It's obvious that being a vegetarian is better from a morality point of view. And it's healthier as well. Meat is not essential in our lives.
But to each their own.
The only reason we can do that now is because of agriculture and supermarkets, both of which are relatively recent for humans. We also now have tons of diseases like heart disease and diabetes that people didn't get before then.
@Anno_Domini Not sure what you're referring to.
Meat not being essential. It WAS essential when we didn't have mass produced agriculture with pesticides and GMOs.
@Anno_Domini Yes, but it's not anymore. The world is evolving, people's empathy for animals should as well.
Pesticides and GMOs are not a positive thing.
@Anno_Domini There's a lot of shit in meat too.
Oh, I know. It's really hard to eat healthy now, and there's really no way to sustain our world population without using pesticides, hormones (for meat), and genetically modified crops. It's sad.
I completely agree, just because we are the more advanced animals doesn't mean we can treat less advanced animals horribly. They have as much of a right to be on the earth as we do so we shouldn't kill them when we don't have to
Amen to that!
Omnivore because that's what we are. Many vegetarians miss out on vital nutrients and end up being advise by doctors to eat a little bit of meat. Animals kill and eat each other all the time, it's nature. You realise cute cats are carnivores too right?
"Omnivore because that's what we are."
Eat meat like a real omnivore and tell me that again :)
it's healthier to be an omnivore. we are designed to be omnivores. if we were meant to be vegetarian/herbivores, we wouldn't have the physical biological makeup to eat meat.
I love the vegans/vegetarian point of view as if killing animals. If anything g, killing plants is worse. For 1, they produce co2, which we need to breathe, automatically more valuable than any animal on earth. Moreover, they feel just as much pain as animals do, including humans. Ever have that fresh cut grass smell? It's plants releasing pheromones as a distress signal and I think a toxin. Plants y'all eat produce it as well
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Plants can't feel pain, they also have no sences where as its the opposite for animals and no no one will eat all the trees so I don't think we'll be running out of oxygen anythime soon😂😂😂
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www.pri.org/.../new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants
www.smithsonianchannel.com/.../12151
but please educate me. i got all day.
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"no one will eat all the trees so I don't think we'll be running out of oxygen [anytime] soon"... no one will eat all animals either so your argument is invalid
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Dude, u da man 8)
@ThisDudeHere no, you're dude :D... i dick around a lot (especially on here, obviously), but when i make a point, people better have their guns out cause i got that shit on lock! :D
We don't have the physiological makeup to eat meat because if we ate it the way a true omnivre did we'd quickly die.
@adquidorator lol, come back to me when you pass 1st grade biology. we still process meat. we, however, have evolved and adapted to process cooked meat better cause, you know, we are not fucking animals who want or will be susceptible to disease. by your logic we aren't able to process vegetables cause we don't eat raw vegetables and fruit out of the ground or trees. you wash them and most vegetables and fruit you eat are sterilized. get outta here with that weak shit fam.
I love the vegans/vegetarian point of view as if killing animals. If anything g, killing plants is worse. For 1, they produce co2, which we need to breathe, automatically more valuable than any animal on earth." OMFG Are you fucking serious right now XD. Plants produce O2 which we breathe and reduced carbon that we eat, break down and release as CO2 and H2O. 2nd: News flash: plants are producers and animals are consumers. You have to feed an animal plants for it to grow meat in the first place (in fact 10x the plant biomass to get the same biomass in meat) so by eating meat, guess what, you're killing EVEN MORE PLANTS. FYI as for the articles you linked labeled as plant "intelligence" it's not analogous to our or any other animals' perception capabilities, it would just be like our body's use of hormones which allows our own tissues to communicate with each other and it won't manifest itself as a sensation until it interacts with the nervous system (which plants don't have)
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Actually I have a Bachelor's Degree in Biology, co-authored two publications, had the highest score in my graduating class, was awarded magna cum laude upon graduation and when taking the GRE subject test scored in the top 9% and am in a Masters program. The plain and simple truth is that you could feed any herbivore cooked meat and it would be as easy for them to process as it would us. But you're little remark about how plants produce co2 that we breathe (google the carbon cycle) really shows how knowledgeable you are about the topic and arguing with someone who clearly has no clue what he's talking about would just be a waste of my time, by now :)
@adquidorator ok, guess what, not killing animals will result in? the killing or more plants. and want to know what happens when you don't kill a chicken to eat? the chicken gets eaten by another animal like a fox. regardless of what stupid and absurd and retarded 3rd grade retard logic you want to use for not eating meat, the animals will still get eaten, regardless. people will still eat meat regardless. i'll still eat regardless. and simply denying whether or not we should or denying that we can eat meat doesn't mean we can't. so by your train of thought, i should just wish for you to stop being retarded and leave, right? i can just wish my college loans to go away... give me a minute to check if it worked
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nope... didn't happen. you're still a jackass who still exists and present in my life for whatever reason and i still get a monthly bill saying i owe the government money.
@adquidorator co-authored two publications... let me see your work. proof or you're bullshitting. even then, it's undergrad work. who cares? grades don't make you smart or qualified. hell, if that was the case, i'd be some business mogul. business was the 3rd major i wanted to pursue and literally never studied and still graduated cum laude. i wouldn't say that i am great at business cause i got decent grades off minimal work. i just know how to learn stuff really well. i know plenty of retards who got good grades and graduated and got into grad school. and if we're talking about smarts, cool i'm a certified genius with a 155 iq. i can throw around cool numbers too to sound impressive.
Katherine L. Harmata, Austin P. Parrin, Patrick R. Morrison, Kristin K. McConnell, Lori S. Bross and Neil W. Blackstone (2014). “Quantitative Measures of Gastrovascular Flow in Octocorals and Hydroids: Toward a Comparative Biology of Transport Systems in Cnidarians.”Invertebrate Biology 132(4): 291-304
Sarah E. Netherton, Daniele M. Scheer, Patrick R. Morrison, Austin P. Parrin, and Neil W. Blackstone (2014). “Physiological Correlates of Symbiont Migration During Bleaching of Two Octocoral Species.” Experimental Biology. 217(19): 1-9
@adquidorator I feel like if I replied to all of that I would be waisting my life because your clearly just to obnoxious and stupid to understand...
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I've been veggie, I now eat meat. Morally, the mass produced meat I eat for the most part isn't very cool. I know I should source my food more ethically but it's tough without spending a fortune.
Yeah, it's hard to eat healthy, too. Organic, grass fed animal meat is expensive :(
Yeah I agree. I don't think I could ever go back now, I've gotten To a point where the sight if it makes me sick
I never found meat disgusting, I've always been aware of the process but I know eating meat is natural for humans. I just didn't like meat do I stopped eating it for about 12 years.
@Anno_Domini yeah, I'm lucky to live in a farming area, but it's still not cheap :(
I think I've over though about it too much because just the sight of it repulsies me.
I know its natural for us to eat it, but (this is going to sound stupid) its not a fare fight. We don't need to eat us much meat as we do, and there's no way for the animal to consent to what happens to the rest of it after. I think its disrespectful that they have no choice just because we're the more advanced species of animal
Animals eat other animals with just as little respect, but I totally understand your view on the consumption level. The mass meat industry isn't good for the planet and it also makes everyone incredibly reliant on meat as a form of protein. Many people have meat with every meal and I find it odd that more vegetarian meals aren't eaten. The world is in a credit crunch still, cheap food should be everywhere.
👏👌 exactly 😊
I guess vegetarians are more moral and healthier people, I hope I'll become vegetarian someday soon... I'm practically a semi-vegetarian already.
Yayy!👏👌
I'd love to be a vegetarian but I can't XD it's too hard for me.
I don't drink cow milk tho, the next step is to stop eating fish.
Become a pescitarian first. Its probably easier.
Pescitarian = non red meat eater (you still eat poultry and fish)
Yeah, I think I'd have to start with that.
'Vegan' should also be an option if morality is one of the things to consider, because of the things that dairy animals go through.
Yeah, its honestly brutal. And incredibly selfish of people to put animals through things like that just because they can't protest against it
I'm a Lacto-Vegetarian, and yes, when it comes to health and morality, I think it's much better to eat just vegetarian food.
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I don't understand vegetarians, if you care about the animals suffering such much you should be a vegan.
Also you can be healthy and have a diet that includes meat. Also not all vegans and vegetarians have healthy diets.
1: vegetation is the first step to becoming vegan
2: you can, but people that are serious about loosing weight tend to just cut all meat out or just red meat
3: the stupid ones don't
1: it doesn't matter as long as they're contributing! As long as they understand eating meat is wrong its a start
2: I think it just depends where your from... Pretty much everyone I know has cut meat out while trying to loose weight
3: then why did you even say it if you even know that its obvious?😂😂😂
1. Depends on your values and beliefs. Some people view it as the "circle of life" or the "food chain". They are technical not wrong. You have to accept the difference of opinions in life. Not everyone will view things in the same. It does not make them wrong nor does it make you wrong. You need to accept that. Animosity will not sway people to your point of view.
2. No it doesn't depend where your from. From a nutritional stand point the most effective way to lose weight is from cuting out processed, high-energy density and high-glycemic-index foods. Veganism is being treated as a "fad diet" like gluten free, paleo, Atkinsons, etc. People who are serious about loosing weight would learn about nutrition rather than just trying the new "fad diet". Turning vegan or vegetarian to loose weight is ridiculous. Turning vegan or vegetarian for moral reasons is not.
3. I pointed this out because people are under the false notion that being a vegetarian or vegan makes one healthy.
you asked an opinion. you have every right to disagree with the opinions given, but you do not have the right to bitch if someone answered in a way you do not like.
I'm not bitching😂 I'm sharing my view. Everyone has a different opinion and I respect that
It's easy to tell by the poll how you're biased against us meat eaters so I see no reason to answer, not like you're going to take anything outside of your preference into consideration.
I was just curious... And you just answers even if you didn't pick a side lol
I know but I was just stating how it's rather unprofessional of you to make the poll the way you did. You should have worded B with "meat". Simple as that.
For virtually all vegans/vegetarians it was never about preference because (and I'm not ashamed to say this) I am, was and always will be a meat lover. Swiss-bacon-cheeseburgers have to be my all time favorite food. I have no control over my desires, but I do have control over my decisions. So it was never a matter of preference it was a matter of giving two shits about how your choices impact others.
@adquidorator your point being?
My point being that people don't choose a vegetarian/vegan diet as a matter of preference
@adquidorator that still doesn't change the fact that she could have worded the poll differently.
We could word a lot of things differently, it doesn't change what it it.
@adquidorator Doesn't change what it is, you meant? In that case what IS IT that it is?
That you're eating the Carcass of a dead animal
@adquidorator And?
And why does it matter how she worded it?
@adquidorator because it is not civil. Meat eater would have been civil. Look, it does not matter how strongly you believe in your point of view being correct, emotions should play no part in wording these kinds of polls. Itherwise you make it seem like you have already decided the result thus negating the need for a poll to begin with.
If you're arguing that the slaughter of billions of animals every single year for no other purpose than culinary satisfaction is somehow justified, you already threw civility out the door.
@adquidorator and you slaughter plants when it has been proven that they actually have a sense of pain as well. At any point, you're the typical uptight vegetarian so there's no point in continuing this.
"Pain" is a neurological response and plants lack any nervous system. Sure, they have hormones that allows their tissues to communicate with each other and relay stress responses. Our tissues can do that to but it won't manifest itself as "pain" or any kind of perceptible sensation unless it interacts with our nervous system (which plants don't have). But at any rate, here's a news flash, you have to feed an animal 10x the biomass in plant material to get the same amount in the form of meat so even if there was any truth to your claim veganism still would be the best option and by the way, no I'm not a vegetarian, (way to be presumptuous). And if you can't understand these basic points then you shouldn't be arguing in the first place because you'll only make your side look foolish.
Do you really care about the poll that much?😂 its not professional because why should it be? Its just for fun... And I'm 15 why should I make everything professional?😂
And plants defionatly have no nerves! Or brains! They don't worry about being slaughted because theyre plants!
Its completely different, anyone with one brain cell can see that...
Omnivore refers a given species' nutritional needs so all humans are omnivores but a lot of people use supplements and what not to avoid eating meat. I however do enjoy ripping the meat off a bone with my teeth from time to time.
Humans have no traits in common with omnivores that omnivores don't already share with herbivores -_-
OK, care to name some traits :)
The simple fact that we can get atherosclerosis from dietary cholesterol while omnivores and carnivores cannot should be proof enough that humans are herbivores
The simple fact that the stomach pH of carnivores and omnivores is 1> with food in it while ours is between 3-5 should be proof enough that we're herbivores
The simple fact that omnivores have livers that can detoxify vitamin A while ours cannot should be proof enough that we're herbivores and the list goes on.
@adquidorator Any bad cholesterol can cause atherosclerosis. It is not exclusive to meat. You cannot compare the human digestive system to that of any other known animal for one simple reason… We have been using fire to cook our food for a good million years and been evolving alongside it.
Vitamin B12 is only naturally found in meat it is mandatory for the production of health erythrocytes. Without it anemia develops and people die if left untreated. True, now we are able to use bacteria to specifically modified to produce B12 for supplements but nowhere on a scale needed supply the 7.2 billion humans on the planet not to mention the fact that it is a relatively new process.
Furthermore your so-called “herbivories” are not above having a nice meaty snack from time to time themselves.
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"Any bad cholesterol can cause atherosclerosis. It is not exclusive to meat." If you look at the nutrition facts for any vegan product you will see it has no cholesterol
"Vitamin B12 is only naturally found in meat"
Actually it's produced by bacteria and can be found in dirt and water (if you ever see herbivores eating dirt, that's why)
I like eating the carcus of a dead animal
Our species was meant to HUNT and gather, not just gather.
I think its completely fine if we were hunting them because we needed food and if it was a fair fight. But it's not, there are healthier alternatives that don't involve rounding up less evolved animals and killing them when we don't have to. It would be different if it was fare but when an animal goes through one of those death factories they literally never see the sun again. Its not natural
Vegetarians and Vegans have to take vitamin supplements, and nothing in the wild is a 'fair fight'. There is no such thing as a 'fair' fight, since fighting is life and death, and we are hunting animals/domesticating animals because we need food.. that's why we even bother to domesticate livestock in the first place. There aren't 'healthier' alternatives, there are either 'just as healthy' alternatives or there are 'less healthy but more cruelty free' alternatives since eating meat isn't unhealthy to begin with.
I'm with you on how CAFOs are cruel and that our livestock need to be treated much better, but realistically everything we do is natural since it's driven by human instinct. We instinctively manipulate our surroundings; Eating meat is summat humans have done since the days of Australopithecus.
Oh god... Some people are just to thick to talk to.
I've been a vegetation almost all my life and I don't take vitamins because I have a healthy diet which also gives me everything I need. I have climbed eight different mountains, some more than once. So I think that's proof you don't need meat in your diet to do anything that a meat eater can do...
Us humans were made to be omnivores. You can't have just one or the other and be healthy. The only reason we evolved to be so intelligent and powerful was because we cooked and ate meat and also got nutrition from vegetables and non-organic materials.
There's healthy alternatives which give you literally the exact same health benefits as meat does
Our ancestors didn't have "alternatives" they survived and thrived. You can't change nature. And those "exact same" health benefits usually always come up short in one way or the other. Whether it's the type of proteins, taste, or other things left out. Weight lifters and those that live naturally don't have time for these "alternatives".
Stop being such a patronising git. I'm studying biologie at university and I've done plenty more research than you since I am a vegetarian. I know my facts well and I also know your talking bull
I like eating the carcass of dead animals
They're dead, so they really don't care lol
But they had to suffer emotional and physical trauma to end up dead
Animals eat each other all the time. I don't see your point.
Yes, but they eat other animals to survive. Humans can survive without taking the life of an animal. Why would we kill animals if we don't have to? It's selfish and immoral.
@loveaddict11 Morality is a purely human creation.
1) so are slaughter houses
2) you sound like a complete phycopath
3) stfu
Well I'm not giving up meat consumption, and you can't convince me otherwise.
Probably a vegitrian so I can take English classes again.
What has being a vegetarian got to do with taking English classes?
Eating meat is good because it provides you with lots of different nutrients, which would be hard/impossible to get from a vegetarian diet.
This couldn't be more false. If a vegetarian eats a balanced diet, they will get all of the nutrients they need to lead a healthy life. Plus, they aren't ingesting all of the fats and unhealthy aspects in meat.
@loveaddict11 It is well known that vegetarians and especially vegans are susceptible to a vitamin B12 deficiency. It's all well and good if you're willing to take supplements for the rest of your life, but I don't believe that this is the best route to take in attaining a well balanced diet.
I don't think I want to take advice from a 31 year old who thinks its hard to get nutrients without eating meat😂😂
You talk of morality, yet you word your questions in a way to same people for their life choices.
Way to go.
Do you really feel ashamed because I stated a fact aww didums. You clearly need to reathink your "life choices" if being litiral really made you feel ashamed
Your just sad cause I'm right😏
People didn't evolve to be intelligent from eating just plants. Fat and protein are important to our bodies.
Nice poll, though. Very fair and balanced.
You get fat from pretty much everything and protine from beans, chick peas, fish, lentils, nuts, eggs. Duuu
If you were more "intelligent" you would of worked out poll B just means meat eater
Option B is a negative connotation, hence what I said.
You DO know that humans didn't have grocery stores back then, right? They lived off of wild game and whatever tubers, berries, and fruits they could scrounge up.
I'm not retarded, of corse I know that😂 it was fine when people needed to eat animals to survive and we were less evolved because it was more of a fare fight.
Now, we can survive with out meat and there is absolutely no chance for the animal when farmers only let them live just to kill them. It must be awful having to constantly live under fear of your baby being taken away for some fatso to eat in five minutes in a pie. Personally I think a life time is more important that five minutes of food
were designed to be omnivores.
you won't look as good or perform as well being a herbivore.
its a well known fact among atheletes
Actually, many athletes are vegan :)
@adquidorator like 99.99 percent of them aren't due to the reason I've listed lol
Well, are you familiar with a condition known as atherosclerosis?
@adquidorator i should. i have high cholesterol. well i had, its being regulated. i know... its the way they raise their animals. for example... natural grass fed cows raised in the field has good amounts of omega 3s and it offsets all these issues... we messed with nature too much...
Yeah, well a funny thing about it is that it's one of the easiest diseases to induce experimentally using a diet high in cholesterol, but the subject animal must be a herbivore, not a carnivore and not even an omnivore. You can feed a dog or a bear all the lard, live, bacon and eggs you like but it won't atherosclerosis as a result. Although to clarify one point: omnivores and carnivores can develop atherosclerosis, but not as a result of cholesterol in their diet.
@adquidorator yes this debate has been a controversial one. some experts blame the lack of antioxidants that leads to these damages that result in scars within the arterial walls which makes the blood fats stick... some say its diet high in fat etc... as conventional beleif...
also, I've found that pomegranates are very effective in reversing these clogged arteries but they are too damn expenisve to eat everyday for a yr
Healthier to be an omnivore. But I feel bad doing it! BUT MEAT IS SOOOO GOOOODDDDD
You shouldn't be using the term omnivore in this context instead you should use the term carnist.
@SmoMan Yeah I addressed those points and when I did you blocked me -_-
What? An omnivore is someone that eats both meat and vegitibles and that's what I meant.
So why should I be using what ever that means?
The term omnivore describes a physiological predisposition to eat both plants and vegetables. You can feed a deer steak or a dog peanut butter but that won't make them omnivores.
1) vegetables are plants
2) but if you constantly gave the deer steak and plants then it would be an omnivore
No, it's still adapted to be a herbivore no matter what.
But I'm not a deer. I eat eggs to get iron instead of eating meat, I also eat fish and I take vitimim pills everyday which you get everything you can get from meat. Without all the cruelty and unhealthyness
Eating eggs and fish both involve cruelty and unsustainable practices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5qAfyUuWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YACTNvuijQY
If you want nutrients without cruelty and wellness, eat farmed bivalves. One cherry-stone clam has 400% daily value of vitamin b12 and 6 oysters have 2 weeks worth of zinc.
I vote omnivore! I enjoy having berry smoothies with a hotdog or some chicken.
Super healthy, full of anti-oxidants or whatever the fuck they're called. Fruits are great!
DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME THAT MY FOOD PREFERENCE IS IMMORAL, NORMIE!
Your full of shit. ..
Carnivore. Most definitely. Vegetables be nasty.
EEEEWWW VEGETABLES!!!
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@Other_Tommy_Wiseau This guy gets it.
Being a vegetarian doesn't mean you only eat vegetables.
@MissNowhere Didn't say they didn't. Didn't say they did. All I said was vegetables be nasty. Stop assuming please.
Well, that's what it sounds like.
@MissNowhere How exactly did you infer that? Please explain your thought process.
Why else would you say "vegetables are nasty"? It's like you're saying you're a meat-eater just cause vegetables are nasty. But whatevz. It's kind of irrelevant otherwise.
@MissNowhere That's exactly what I'm saying. My first word was Carnivore.
BUT VEGETARIANS EAT OTHER STUFF TOO NOT ONLY VEGETABLES 😄😄😄
I understand that. I didn't say they didn't. I said carnivore because I don't like vegetables. You can't be a vegetarian if you don't like vegetables. Sure they eat other things but THEY EAT VEGETABLES. Now if I would've said something along the lines of "I can't be a vegetarian. I can't just eat vegetables." I would've understood where you were coming from. But I didn't say that at all. I didn't say anything about vegetarians. You read between the invisible lines and thought I said vegetarians only eat vegetables. I said Carnivore implying I only eat meat. I didn't say anything about vegetarians eating vegetables. Understand?
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Bruh, this chick missed the mark on this one
Do whatever makes you happy!
I like to eat dead animals, yes I do.
I think omnivore is definitely more healthy.
Where is the steak?
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