What's your opinion on "women's self-defense" courses? (Page 2)

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I think they're bullshit. Anyone can tell you to kick someone in the balls and run away, or buy pepper spray. Why would you pay someone to tell you that?

4465loveyou5577 · Answer

There's more to defense courses than kicking people in the nuts.

Also as a side note, one thing I can't stand is when girls think that they're invincible just because they can kick a guy attacking them in the nuts. It can be blocked like any other kick.

Yawn_Yawn · Answer

If that's all you think you need, then aren't you good to go?

And if we apply your logic, then why do we bother to train soldiers? Just point the gun and shoot the enemy, right?

Hmmmm... I suspect you're oversimplifying something that is very complex and you're forgetting that "practice makes perfect". Likewise, you're likely discounting the debilitating effects that shock has on people when they are in intense situations... training helps overcome that situation.

Giggletr0n · Answer

Dude, knowing someones OTHER vital points is always a good idea; especially if that person is savy to the fact that you will go for the balls first or that you may be carrying spray

Anonymous · Answer

Because kicking a man in the groin is not that easy. Yes, it's very effective, but because it's such a vulnerable spot, men have reflexes to defend it.
And yeah, you can by a spray or a shocker, but you better practice using it. You don't want it to be your first time when it's for real.

Anonymous · Answer

I think the kind of money spent on those courses, you'd be better off getting yourself a good handgun, anything.45 cal and a conceal and carry license instead. And go to a local range to practice. As for places that don't permit private ownership of firearms. I guess the only option is to learn how to use and conceal blades.

Myrdices · Answer

Learning how to fight was something I just had to do living in the hood my whole life iv never put any stock into those self help bs because at the end of the day the only thing getting help is their wallets you wanna get tough then find someone else who does and learn to fight together take turns dodging punches and train your reflexes you don't even have to fight the beat thing you can learn to do is avoid danger and escape when shit gets too dangerous

Dark93 · Answer

I think they're a joke, they simply aren't sophisticated enough. If someone is set on harming or stealing from the woman they will try and most likely persist, some of the "defense" tactics also seem like a good way to piss off the attacker and make him more aggressive.

AxlStahlmann · Answer

Yeahhh, that's bs. Picking up Krav Maga or MMA would be a better choice than that if escape or defense spray is not an option.
(Defense spray vs. Pepper spray: defense spray uses some tear gas. A small group of people are immune to pepper spray. Used to sell it when I worked retail and learned it as a selling tip from a female coworker)

Dude_1820 · Answer

I agree with you to an extent. I do MMA and it only works if you're training constantly. If you take a single class it's useless on the field and is just a money maker and makes women feel like they're capable of defense and the husband's feel like their wife is safer. Neither are the case when you're not drilling it day in and day out

Anonymous · Answer

Self defense classes are about more than pepper spray and kicking someone in the balls. Those things alone are not enough and that's what these classes teach you. How to recognize a potential threat, assess any situation for the best solution. It's not about physical beating but rather about keeping yourself safe.

DamnMan · Answer

Fighting is useless unless you are physically strong, and mentally aggressive.  I know because I've been in some scraps.  My advise for women: carry a small knife and poke that bastard in the face.

TsubasaCorrupted · Answer

My cousin was in the military. They told her to go for vital organs and how to cripple people. Chop to the throat to collapse the windpipe, claw out their eyes, downward kick to the side of the knee to break it, smash the testicles etc.
If you want to teach them defense, teach them something they can actually use on someone who is very, very willing to rape and kill them. They need to be able to kill their attackers if need be.

Collyflower1998 · Answer

See if I was to run a course like this I would actually teach them what I have learnt from MMA, TAEKWONDO, KARATE and BOXING. Most courses are just rip offs. If you wanna learn real self defence, learn a martial art.

MexicanBagpiper96 · Answer

This is where you want to do your homework, on who you're learning from. Typically these courses are best taught by Special Operations Forces/Law Enforcement Veterams who have been in similar situations before, but that is not always the case. Creating muscle memory and mentally preparing for such an incident are vital for results. If you're serious about taking one of these courses you should look for reputable names and do some homework on the background of the individuals teaching the course.

Gypsy_x · Answer

You have never taken a self defence class. Your judgment is formed from the anecdote of one person you know. Rather poor reasoning.

I think its smart to gain skills that make you more confident and capable in dealing with potential attackers.

ShesAmerican · Answer

I don’t think it’s bad. Because there could be some people who know how to dodge pepper spray and other stuff, so it’s useful to know self defenses. Plus some people can’t buy pepper sprays and you can’t really get away from balls kicking

guyasef · Answer

They should be made compulsory with female instructors to avoid shame or harassment and to encourage a greater turnout. These could be community funded so that those financially unstable or unwilling to spend may be encouraged to take them.

RatherNotSay042 · Answer

Not all classes are the some. So actually have useful information and defenses of acts that you might not consider happening. You have to find a legit one, maybe give it a chance

kaskas19 · Answer

Nah. Just don't go to shitty classes. Everyone needs a form of self defense.

VaIiant · Answer

I've never attended a self defense class, but I've done Boxing, MMA, Jiu Jitsu, and now Krav Maga, and I handle myself very well against guys with no training who are larger then me.

DanielOfTheNorth · Answer

Ah, Rex Kwon Do... (For the uninitiated)

Celtero · Answer

"Watch out! I know Karate!!"

Yeah... they're a joke. Unless you've got pepper spray or a gun a thug is gonna win against a woman any day of the week. Maybe they can help against an inebriated homeless man, but other than that, not really.

pasimuscle · Answer

I don't know about other counties but in Germany they're quite good but I'd always recommend something like Krav Maga, which I've been doing for 5 years or a real martial art like jiu jitsu my favorite.

Anonymous · Answer

Well then go to better ones, there must be those that teach you how to kill a man in 360 seconds or less, but yeah if it's only kick to the balls, blow the whistle shit its pretty given you really don't have to pay so much to learn that, and if you Already enrolled in them just kick the live target the hardest may just provide that value for money you are looking for

Anonymous · Answer

Women either need to carry a knife or a pistol on them. You can't defend yourself without hurting bad people. Rapists should be shot first if the victims won't file a damn police report.

The conversation should go more like

"I was raped. . ."

"Why didn't you shoot him before he raped you?"

. . . Because I wasn't actually raped. . ."

HALKYXN · Answer

First of all, please be careful about kicking someone in the balls. You could castrate some bastard over a misunderstanding, so careful with that one. And honestly, if the girls that take them feel more secure then I couldn't care less. Not anything wrong with it in my opinion.

MrKinktastic · Answer

Most martial arts courses are bull-shido. Women's classes particularly so but its true of a lot of open classes too. Its more a problem of unscrupulous advertising and ignorance in my opinion.

zagor · Answer

It is easy to think, yeah, I'd kick them in the junk, or whatever, and run. But in a crisis, all that is generally forgotten. The purpose of these classes is to actually go through the motions in order to condition yourself on how to react.

soyboy999 · Answer

If it's legit, e. g. MMA or whatever (I don't know martial arts), then sure, why not? It's way more effective to be trained in that than to be a clueless n00b.

Gray-Wisp · Answer

Yeah those courses sound awful. If a self defense class doesn't involve the usage of a gun it's not worth much.

Anonymous · Answer

They are a joke.

My favorite video is Bas Rutten telling a female self-defense teacher to show him her skills and he puts his are around her neck and says "what would you do to get out of this?"
and she says "I will reach back and gouge your eyes"
He says "OK, go ahead, try it... and I will break your neck"
and she says in a panic... "WHAT!"
And he says... "I said go on and try it and I will snap your neck like a twig".

It shows just how useless these classes are.

alice55 · Answer

pepper spray are forbidden in my country, they're considered to be a weapon so we can't use it to defend ourself. And I don't think that kicking a guy there always work in all the situation.

Arabian911 · Answer

Yup total bullshit, I’m 6’4 and 214 lbs, without putting my military training in the equation, tell me how exactly a woman self defense program would qualify any woman to take me down.

Decentguy · Answer

its a good thing, Every woman should take those courses

FýrdracaDócincel · Answer

Send 'em to ol' Naked Snake and the Boss. Hell, send EVERYONE to those two. It'll be great. xD

Anonymous · Answer

It’s complete bullshit. As someone who has trained martial arts for 25 years and I can tell you right now those course accomplish nothing.

You are better off learning about concealed weapons (yes guns protect women for the liberal morons out there) and learning JIU JITSU.

cherryphi82 · Answer

I couldn't care less. They are most often useless and complete bullshit. What you really need is a gun

Lance1965 · Answer

Kicking in the balls or pepper spray doesn't always work. If that is your only defense then that isn't much to defend yourself with.

Jamaicanlove · Answer

As a martial artist, I see value in them as while you may not learn specifically how to fight, they give you a creative outlook on and general ideas on methods of defending yourself from a perp

lomimore · Answer

Its bs and it might not really help you, they need to teach rich content such as in karate or other marcial arts

DaisyBSwan · Answer

I took 2 self defense classes in high school and learned a lot. I feel it was worth it and fully intend on having my daughters take classes too.

2tall2handle · Answer

Some women, not all might panic in certain situations unlike yourself. If a real accredited self-defense trainer could teach them techniques to prevent them from getting raped, sexually assaulted, robbed with a weapon, personally I am all for it

Malono · Answer

My hobby is teach self-defense (Spain is one of the safest countries in the world) and believe me if I tell you that self-defense is not just kick balls and use pepper spray. Oh, as a hobby I teach for free. They don't pay any money

janna_jcb · Answer

If they’re good I really like them, because it is, unfortunately, a fact that women tend to be smaller and less strong than men, who often are the attackers. So it is really helpful to learn some moves and tactics specifically for such a situation

pooper89 · Answer

Um cuz they teach you maneuvers. You can’t make a judgement based off one experience with one company

Anonymous · Answer

Going for a kick in the groin is a super risky move.

If the dude catches your leg when you swing it up at his groin; the fight is over and you are now going to die because you're now at a massive disadvantage.

Zorax · Answer

Self defense classes are usually a good idea, but they shouldn't be divided into male and female version.

BrittBratt2416 · Answer

Because there's defense courses who actually teach women to fight and protect themselves.

codycccccc · Answer

My opinion has always been if you want to learn to fight go find a former solders (preferably special forces) to teach you because they used it to survive in a war zone

winterfox10 · Answer

A lot of those classes are about giving women the confidence to feel like they can do something, even if it isn't a super effective defense. But yes, a few of them are ripoffs

eMaNnUeL · Answer

Might as well learn how to actually fight from a trained professional than some dumbass doing it as a hobby. Not every guy is gonna go down with a nutshot

Iloveapplepies34 · Answer

Well if being attacked by some that is on there own , there is small chance the will give you time to defend your self , it will be surprised att, hurt or down or restrained before you even know you are being attacked so its not necessary

admles · Answer

Waste of time and money.

To learn to fight effectively takes time, repetition with resisting partners. You have to be trained to fight under pressure.

This comes from over 20 years of martial arts and boxing.

snowangle · Answer

I took a few self defense classes and learned much more than that.

azzntittiz · Answer

I agree with real self defense classes, not the phony ones. Women should be armed and informed.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Well if someone wants to train to kick someone ass what's wrong with that

Eva323 · Answer

So... You’ve never been to a women’s self defense course have you?

Anonymous · Answer

Depends on the class. Not everyone naturally knows how to use their opponents weight against them or how to get out of certain attacks (grabbed from behind, hair grabbed etc.)

Anonymous · Answer

Women’s self-defense classes typically aren’t worth much, but Firearms training and concealed carry classes sure are. I carry and train at least every other week in practical exercise scenarios.

Logorithim · Answer

No familiarity with them, but I presume they're useful. Would also recommend martial arts training.

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