Should we have free women's self defense classes?

[Wade12345]

We could set up a task force to gather all the best martial arts instructors to teach women street self defense so they'll be better prepared if God forbid they ever face a rape or murder attempt or an angry abusive boyfriend. I could teach both "destructive force" striking and intermediate grappling to women.

Women should practice all 11 basic martial arts kicks. A good front thrust kick hits with 2000 pounds force, while an untrained fighter's right cross punch is only 150 pounds. So if you train your trust kick and back kick you'll be hitting ten to 15 times harder than your (hopefully) unskilled attacker.

Women should also stay in groups of FIVE when in a dark place. It would take at least 3 evil men working together before they could threaten a group of five women, so the women woulud be much safer the larger the group of women.

[Aerissa_Jade]

I took two different self defense classes free, and I'm all for free things like that, but when I say free I don't mean tax payers fund them.

The classes I took were done by volunteers giving their own time. That is how it should be done, or if someone needs to be paid, then people can volunteer to donate money so that women can get it free.

I am extremely anti using tax money to give people free stuff but 100% for fund raisers and volunteering or other non tax money methods.

It is not realistic to say we should stay in groups of 5 each time we go out after dark, I don't have that many friends I hang out with when I go out.

I conceal carry, have a stun gun and other self defense weapons and will not hesitate to shoot any attacker.

[BigWhiteWolf87]

@Wade12345 Thing is, is typical rape or assault situation for a woman is due to her NOT using her brain. Take being somewhere dark... many women think it's intelligent to walk to their car ALONE through a dark late-night parking lot (or cut between buildings/alleyway) after work, shopping or even when they're leaving a bar drunk.

So you could literally employ an international team of self-defense experts & martial arts instructors to teach them... and the average woman would still put themselves in danger through stupidity, ignorance, lack of observation & simple common sense.

[BigWhiteWolf87]

* lack of observation & lack of simple common sense

[Levin]

Okay, this is a bit more complicated.

Firstly, a lot of women choose to be with these abusive men, for whatever reason.

Secondly, a lot of martial arts classes are shit, even practical ones. But a lot of the stuff they teach, particularly if it's specific technique oriented, is garbage.

Thirdly, martial arts lessens the gap, still the strength gap between men and women can be quite monumental. Also, if the woman is scared she's not going put up much of a fight, potentially. It requires a mental training.

Most abuse I gather is men these women know or are in relationships with, therefore, the dark alley stuff is not necessarily relevant.

[Twalli]

If you're in darkness all skills go out the window if you can't see you attacker clearly. Also, while women can learn that so can men and sinve there are a limited number of attacks there are easy ways to learn to avoid and defend against them. Anyone who studies martial arts learns those quickly.
When attacked most people's first reaction is to freeze. Freezing makes it easier to be subdued. Unless the woman is at a black belt level, if the attacker gets a good enough grip she's not getting free.

[SpokenTruth]

The things is there is no amount of training martial arts or otherwise that will fight off any fear that steams from false claims and allegations fabricated and brought forth by women no matter. The only thing to defend them against brainwashing is their eyes and ears. And no I'm not suggesting rape and other things don't happen but if false accusations against men and boys and the incentives to do so were gone.

Women have used false accusations to divorce rape men and the system is set up to help them do it too. Women have created the statistics they fear with their false accusations and then doubled down via the system to further oppress men boys too and no amount of training can fix that.

[UCrayCray]

Yeah, that’s got nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[SpokenTruth]

@UCrayCray Oh yes it does too. You can't argue that woman haven't been driven by their own fears they manufactured though their own statistics they themselves drove way up though their false accusations they made up and used to gain advantages such as in divorce court. And had it not been for their own actions there wouldn't be such a huge requirement to fix what they broke. So yes it has everything to do with this topic.

[UCrayCray]

No, it really doesn’t.
The topic, as described by the words used in the main text, is about women protecting themselves from being victimized.
Women lying about being victimized is a whole other conversation.
Lol@women manufactured fears.
I guess your life experiences as a woman has shown you how manufactured those fears are? I suppose since you have never been followed by some creepy guy who has been staring at you on the bus, it doesn’t actually happen to anybody?
Some women lie. Its true, and they are shitty people for doing so, but that’s not what is being talked about.
Although…I suspect you don’t believe any female rape victim. Do you even believe that women get raped at all?

[SpokenTruth]

@UCrayCray Yes I believe women get raped when it actually happens my own Mom was a ACTUAL victim of attempted rape and my ex girlfriends mom was raped twice by the same black guy that returned years later to do it again. And apart from them the ONLY being true victims I have ever personally known in my entire life time.

And I don't need any experiences from women there are plenty of men that have experienced it on the receiving end and OH YES believe it I have been falsely accused not rape but of things as well which is why outside of online I want nothing to do with women period absolutely nothing.

Men are the victims why do you think MGTOW exist which was how I found the videos that prove the false accusation agenda against men. https://www.bitchute.com/video/M-Dtcvqcjc8/

[UCrayCray]

“And apart from them the ONLY being true victims I have ever personally known in my entire life time.” 🙄 Because you fancy yourself the kind of guy that “ACTUAL” victims would confide in? Give it a rest.
Oh…. I see. You’re one of those guys.
My bad!

[SpokenTruth]

@UCrayCray I presented to you proof just watch the video and if you refuse others that desire the truth can watch it themselves and see for themselves you are without excuse.

[OfMiceandMen]

I have a daughter and I think it would be beneficial to have such programs. I like @Aerissa_Jade idea to find a volunteer instructor.

I would consider making a donation to cover the instructors relocation expenses, so they are not out of pocket. Once that is covered anyone could attend free of charge.

[NewsReader]

That's gender discrimination by law. Even if done in private, it's not right. Why should it be free only for women? Do men not get attacked? I know martial arts and was able to get out of a headlock when I got attacked on a subway train a few months ago.

[Adam1978]

No that is gender discrimination. Besides it's kind of pointless, even a trained woman will not have any chance against majority of men. They should learn to dodge and run, not fight. Because our larger mass and strength will always give us the upper hand in close combat.

[loveslongnails]

Some places already offer such classes for free, and often the instructor (s) offer their time for free and the community space is free too. The best defense, even if you are trained in self-defense, is not to put yourself in harms way to the best of your ability.

[jshm2]

Don't be stupid.

The US army has female soldiers getting raped as well. Self defence doesn't do shit if you have a coordinated attack against you.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Nope. No need to deprive the instructor if their own money or to make them rely upon government or donations.

[Iron_Man]

Sure but how is the instructor going to make a living if all the women are free?

[Wade12345]

Have state or federal vouchers for low income women who can't afford the best instructors. Have middle and upper income people just pay out of pocket, but strongly encourage the women to join.

What I'm thinking of is combining the most relevant aspects of Krav Maga, Ninjitsu, Isshinryu, Kung Fu, and Jiu Jitsu to make one condensed "street self-defense style" for women to learn to defend themselves at least against "unskilled attackers". This way hopefully the rate of kidnapping, rape, and murder of women would go down noticeably.

[Iron_Man]

Also, throw Judo in there

[Wade12345]

Yes, advanced "Combat Judo" to be precise.

[Iron_Man]

Yes..:;

[Wade12345]

Let's talk about threat levels for striking. When it comes to striking, most women cannot punch or kick as hard as a perfectly trained man, so some techniques that work for a man won't work for a woman. For this reason, the women need to be trained in four threat levels of fighting.

1) Stun/Distracting
This is like groin kicks and palm heels. While an expert man can kill another man with a palm heel, most women cannot palm heel hard enough to do more than knock-out damage, and we teach palm heel as a distracting strike to white belts until they master the technique (Purple belt or so).

2) Moderate force. The man is really attacking you, so you better punch like a man and hit him in the face, and learn to keep your guard up.

3) Destructive Force. The man is bigger than you and is a dedicated attacker. He's not backing down even though you've surprised him with a few good licks. Now you must escalate and break some of his bones to stop his attack. Cross heel stomp kick to the top of the feet or side of the knee works, certain pressure points work, palm heel full power to the nose might score a lucky knock-out for you.

Lethal Force.

If nothing else is working because the man is too big and strong, you throat jab him as hard as you can until he stops attacking, or you hammer fist him in the temple as hard as you can until he stops attacking.

[Iron_Man]

You seem to have pretty good knowledge of fighting

[Iron_Man]

For women’s needs

[Anonymous]

Sure, but most women still wouldn't do it because they have no interest.

[noohair]

Try finding someone that works for free and then get back to me.

[purplepoppy]

Why not just teach men not to attack women.

[inhua]

or we can teach people not to attack people regardless of age, race, gender or physicality but that's just a fantasy utopia not based in realism. lawbreakers are going to break the law regardless of what is taught to them. if an attacker wants to attack you, no amount of lecturing is going to stop them. persistent lecturing is what causes a lot of these problems in the first place

[Wade12345]

We already do that, the evil ones attack women anyway, because they're evil.

[inhua]

who's gonna pay taxes for this?

[DaveToo]

Not every woman is built for defensive aggression.

[gorydetails]

Guns work better than karate chops.

[Pete671]

Yes defo, Krav Maga is the best one imho,

[LimitedBenefits101]

Alright go teach them.

[Anonymous]

Okay, this is a bit more complicated.

[ChooChooHaha]

ANd men.