+1 yHaving lost 25 lbs in the past 8 months and 60 over three years, SO MUCH needs to change about our attitudes about food. Food is FUEL for our bodies, not pleasure for our brains. Refined sugar and corn syrup should be TAXED. Fruits and veggies should be SUBSIDIZED! We need a penny per gram of sugar of tax over half the US Heart Association’s guideline of 30 grams of sugar per day (averaging 36 grams for males and 24 grams for females). Coca-Cola has 29 grams of sugar in a 12 oz can, so each can would have an additional 14 cent tax. Same thing with baked goods as well. We tax sugar like we do cigarettes and manufacturers will lower the amount of it in products. 12oz cans of coke in Europe and the Middle East are actually just 8 oz and have 10 grams of sugar. Our brains will actually adjust to the lower sugar levels. Diabetes and obesity will decline. The money should be used to pay for health issues for the obese, and for education and training programs to move people to a healthy weight. It is much harder to lose the weight than to gain it. I am now on a strict regimen of restricted calorie diet avoiding sugar and 6 hours of cardio a week plus 2 weight classes to lose the weight.
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More info. I have to use American Heart Association guidelines because the FDA refuses to put a Recommended Daily Allowance on sugar. The food lobbies have lobbied and bribed Congress to prevent it from occurring. And thus we have over 50% of the country overweight and 30% of the country obese, and exploding medical costs.
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+1 yNow we are asking the important questions.
As someone who used to be chubby before, I understand how insecure I can be and to a certain extent, I’m still insecure because I’m constantly seeking perfection.
Now I’m not saying you have to strive to be some fitness junkie but you should try to improve yourself. If they are happy with your shape then you’re welcome to stay that way.
You can’t be proud to be your shape and bash other body types aka skinny or a bigger girl to give you some sense of superiority because that’s no different then a bully.
So I’m all for people being whoever they want but don’t attack others for being different or you’re opening yourself to a treasure chest of insults42 Reply- +1 y
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The movement where people are good with their healthy body sizes are great, but obesity is not ok.
People should never be positive about something which could kill and cause massive health implications to someone.
If being anorexia is all of a sudden not ok, then why should something just as dangerous as obesity be?
The movement is for loving your HEALTHY self, thick or thin. Anything unhealthy should not be massively appreciated, but it should not be dealt with without sensitivity.
Some people are naturally obese, and if that is their healthy body state (the best their body can be), they should be happy with it.
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Personally I think that is the thing. You don’t need an excuse to be fat. You just are. I think the world would be a better place if people just minded their own business. So what if that woman in the park walking her dog was obese? How does that affect you? In ANY way?
I think it’s good to be comfortable in your body. I have three fat friends, two who are overweight and one who is obese. They’re all comfortable in their bodies. I don’t get why people get offended over that. So what?58 Reply- +1 y
This is to be honest nothing but hatred again fat people because you’re uncomfortable watching them.
I see no one complain about people smoking in public, even though that actually DOES affect you because second hand smoking is a thing. But suddenly when you’re fat, everyone feels the need to say something because it’s unhealthy. Fuck right off with that shit. Stop acting like you’re concerned about someone just so you can try to justify holding a grudge against them. - +1 y
Just for the record, I have absolutely no issue with people being comfortable in their body. This question wasn't supposed to express my view surrounding fat people. I also have fat friends and I don't comment or criticize them for it. People are free to be whatever size they want and do whatever they want to their own bodies.
That being said, I think it is detrimental, from a societal standpoint to encourage people to just accept that they are fat rather than encouraging a healthier solution. To use your smoking example or even take alcohol consumption as well, I have no problem if an individual chooses to smoke or drink. That choice is theirs to make and there's no reason why I should have any say over what someone else does to their body. However, I do take issue with a society encouraging these behaviours, even if they don't push them as being healthy.
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i dont hate fat people just to be clear... i hate fast food shit holes and a lack of dietry education. also to say it doesn't affect others is eroneous because we all pay the huge bill as far as health services go... ok some people are naturally just big and ofcourse that is fine but let me just tell you when i was a kid there was probably three or four overweight kids in my year at school... today obesity is becoming the norm
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@wankiam I so agree. The food lobbies and engineered our expectations toward low value high calorie food. It’s not more expensive, it’s just less profitable. The result is obesity and high medical costs for everyone. Fast food is cheap to produce in high quantities and addictive and so they produce it and market the hell out of it. When we “road trip” to visit relatives in a smaller city, we stop off at a place where there’s a Wendy’s and a Whataburger. Which do you think has the longer line? Which has the healthier choices? There’s always a line at Whataburger, yet Wendy’s clearly has the better choices. Fries are the default side at every fast food place because they are cheaper to buy, store, and make than a salad. They don’t spoil quickly, and can be stored for months. Salad, a few days.
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There have been studies that the poorest parts of most cities literally have NO options for healthy food. No grocery store within 2 miles, yet McDonalds and KFCs are everywhere.
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@bubbatxman yeah thats not the case in the uk but kids are not taught how to cook healthy basic food anymore as their parents werent tught either... im from an age where in our poor social housing situation we learned to grow vegetables to supplement diet but today people think potatoes grow on trees
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@wankiam Not to mention that in typical supermarkets, it's the high in sugar, high in calories, low in nutritional value foods that are cheaper. At least when you take into consideration the time to prepare a meal as well. I mean arguably, someone could make healthy food quite cheap but the preparation time is usually more than a working class parent has to spare throughout the day. I think that ties into what you're saying as well since many of them simply lack the knowledge or desire to prepare meals.
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if they knew how to cook properly its actually quiker to flash fry or steam cook a lot of stuff than it is to wait for frozen crap in the microwave but also on the supermarket point what i find interesting is that when i was in a bulgarian supermarket recently i found that low sugar or no sugar is the norm even in simple quick snax like cheezits and especially more so in soft drinks... very few bulgarians are over weight but then most have plots of land to grow veg and raise animals too
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+1 yIt's an excuse for lack of accountability as is such these days. No one is responsible for their actions. Someone or something else is always to blame, blah, blah.
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+1 yNo, it's not an "excuse" to be fat. No, it's not about motivating people to be healthy---Where are people getting this from? It is about giving obese and overweight individuals that right to choose how they live their lives and to not be attacked for it. This movement did not start as a "motivator" for weight loss. The beauty aspect of it is not trying to convince OTHERS that they're beautiful, but to convince others they are fine with the way they look and find themselves beautiful---which is perfectly okay. I always consider the fact that humans are selfish and only mean to push their own agenda. People do not care about the obese population.
People do not wish see obesity considered beatiful---it won't. People view obesity as a bother---it sometimes is. People view obesity as ugly. People say that don't wish to pay for these people---Let's consider the fact that the obesity rate was lowered to realistic numbers: Do you REALLY think that our taxes would be lowered in any ANY way? The annual welfare/unemployment budget would be lowered... not the amount the citizens pay to the government.
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My way of thinking is overweight people in general tend to not be as healthy and thus are a biggure burden on the healthcare system. Smokers pay insane tax on cigarettes because of what they cost taxpayers down the line so why can't obese people. Why should a man who fits in his seat be forced to stand, be squished or have to catch another simply because the person next to them is to big and cheap.
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I never said they shouldn't pay these things. The reason they don't pay is because the majority of Americans are obese and overweight.
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People seem to ignore that being obese and overweight is the majority.. not the minority.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI think everyone should be treated with respect. But sometimes I think people want others to be attracted to them by changing society, instead of changing themselves. People complain about the unattainable beauty standards projected in the world. If the imagery is Photoshoped you have every right to complain, but not if the images of people are healthy and real. We pay attention to the exceptional, which means for most people, the ultimate beauty goal is hard to attain, but again we want to see something rare. There is a reason there is not such beauty magazine called "Average." And if it is so easy to create such a publication or ad campaign then do it yourself instead of trying to push it upon others.
If you are truly beautiful there are people out there who will appreciate you... don't try to make them... go find them.
We live in a world where no one is supposed to express a preference for a certain body shape... but it is perfectly ok to express disappointment in someone's height.
Anyone who tolerates criticism of people's height should never be allowed to "correct" others for showing a preference for someone's shape.
Speak up for tolerance of both height and shape otherwise be quiet.00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yMy opinion, coming from someone trying to loose weight is that yes in some ways this does give people an excuse to be fat, and unhealthy. In the contrary, I think it does help people who for reasons behind their control may be overweight low metabolism etc. I think it is very sad that some people who are so fat that even the electric scooter wheels can't make it over the small door frame bump on the floor at a store are okay. Im slightly overweight, and I'm trying my hardest to get to where I want to be. I also think that the people at the gym who look amazing have every right to brag even more. I think that people who are content with being overweight maybe they don't have time to exercise or what not I think good for them but why wouldn't you want to be healthier. Sure maybe I don't want to be a stick, but ill admit when I see certain shirts I like Im so jealous of that person like they rock that shirt. But I think it is awesome there are people out there confidently showing off their stuff (big, or small) that they can do that. Because me personally as someone who isn't that overweight I judge myself way to much and I hate shopping for clothes I end up thinking well heck instead of a medium go for that 5x. its just how I feel, but I envy the person who walks into a shop gets a larger size shirt or really small and rocks it and does it confidently I think its awesome.
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+1 yOriginally it was a movement who celebrate all bodies including the petite to plus. But now it’s all about plus sized women.
When I was 275lbs I was part of the whole SJW “All bodies are beautiful, I love my body and I’m happy with it.” I then lost 75 of it and thought “oh my god I look and feel so much better, let’s keep going”. There is no way I’m goong back to where I was before.
I know that the plus sized community can be hypocritical. if you gave a plus sized body positive woman the option of giving them a pill that would give them a Victoria secret body overnight they’d take it.33 Reply- +1 y
@fay23 I didn’t have many SJW plus friends but the ones who were did admit they were jealous. However most of my comments were from all my normal sized and “thinner” friends who would then say “you look amazing, don’t you feel so much better?” And I’d say “yeah I can’t believe I didn’t do this earlier”
+1 yI would take it more seriously if they didn't simultaneously bring down skinny girls while they uplift themselves. Also being fat is absolutely not a good thing. It's okay and even great to say, "yes I'm fat but I am working towards adopting healthier habits." It's not okay to say I'm fat and there's nothing with that or something like that.
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I agree, coming from a healthcare background it’s a fine line to balance on between good mental health and good physical health.
+1 yThere's a saying in my country; "reason why you came here and reason why you were actually brought here aren't exactly the same".
To elaborate; those who follow it with religious fervor do subconsciously see it as an excuse to be fat and/or not to stay at least moderately fit without becoming forever alone as finding one person in a thousand who has a fetish for fatties isn't that easy ("reason why you came here"), yet true goal of it is to lower the lifespan on the population ("reason why you were brought here"), as obviously it puts more pressure on one's heart, increases chances of diabetes etc., which ultimately results in faster death.
Why it's done though? There are many theories.10 Reply- 329 opinions shared on Health & Fitness topic.
+1 yIn my experiences the people who support the body positive movement hate the fat positive movement. They say it does exactly as you are proving, it gets twisted and turned into fat pride.
The body positive movement ( from what I have gathered) are people who embrace the fact that not everyone is the same size and that there is nothing wrong that. As long as you're healthy and taking care of yourself, it shouldn't matter what you look like.
So no, in my experience it does not equate to an excuse for obesity.10 Reply
+1 yI think sometimes the body positivity thing gets a little bit irrational. Yes one should always be comfortable in their own skin but that doesn't mean one should embrace being unhealthy. The standard should not be thin or fat, it should be HEALTHY.
You can't be anorexic or have an eating disorder and say this is who I am and I'm proud of it? You should get it treated and be the healthiest version of yourself.
Nevertheless, there are people who have hormonal problems and are stuck being unhealthy (overweight).. they should not feel that they're unattractive but rather find the inspiration to follow a healthy lifestyle.
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+1 yBody positivity has served a positive role in accepting our natural shapes. Some women have big hip, big tits, some narrow. Some juicy thigh. Some small. We are all beautiful in our own way and the right eyes.
NOW!! Body positivity lost my attention when it told people like Tess Holiday it was okay to wear a bikini.
Skinny, curvy, fit, muscular, chunky? 😎 cool.
MORBID OBESITY? Not cool. Simple.32 Reply- +1 y
I literally just said morbid obesity is not okay.
Chunky people are fine with me. The morbidly obese are not.
It's definitely an excuse, with exceptions (haven't seen any but there are always exceptions I guess). The movement claims it started so everyone could love their bodies but if people really loved their bodies, they'd know that being overweight (overweight people make up the majority of the "supporters") is not good for you neither physically or biologically. And they'd work to change that. Instead, they use genetic disorders (that only less than 10% of the population has), words like "big boned" (non-existent term in anatomy), etc. as an excuse to stay overweight and do nothing about it.
10 Replywe're living in a world where being Victoria secret model skinny is the new standard. not everyone can attain that state, you hear more and more cases of bulimia, anorexia etc everyday. it helps to have people like Ashley Graham to remind you, you don't have to have a thigh gap to fit in, set your own standards. don't get me wrong, i'm totally against being dangerously obese and promoting overly unhealthy eating. some people push themselves to attain these unrealistic body goals and the the sad part is they aren't even doing it for themselves. they're doing it because its what everyone around them is saying. from cereal commercials to shopping malls its all you see until you start to believe you should also be like that
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+1 yI believe deep down it's actually really has a purpose but just like feminism it got well deused (dont even know if that's a real word but I hope you get it)
Fun story I had an argument with my ex coworker she is all for body positivity but me doing fitness for my mental health and body is not part of body positivity but her hating sports of any kind and her body just being the way its is is body positivity
I don't bash her, she looks good but she is hating in my body, for me body positivity is accepting different healthy body types10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yJust because someone is overweight or underweight does not make them less of a person. They're still worthy of love and they still have every right to feel comfortable in what they wear. That's what body positivity is about. Its not ignoring health issues but we shouldn't be shaming them either. Just because I'm not in my current health goal doesn't mean I can't have a wonderful romantic and sexual relationship, it doesn't mean i can't still feel pretty or confident, it doesn't mean I should just wear a brown burlap sack.
Body positivity encourages businesses to be real about who is buying their product. Take aerie for example. They had models of all different sizes, colors, ages and disability. They had a model with something similar to a colostomy bag. So just because she isn't in peak health she shouldn't be represented?41 Reply- +1 y
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+1 yI think it depends from person to person behind the movement. Some thinks the body positivity movement promotes being comfortable in your own body and accept things that you can't control. Some of them thinks it's important taking care of your health; eating healthy and exercise, but also knows that some people would look round regardless of how hard they tries simply because of genetics or diseases. It do exist people who eats healthy, exercise and still looks chubby or round because of genes. Therefor they thinks you should accept the way you're regardless if you're slim or chubby.
Others may use it as an excuse to stay a certain way without putting an effort into it, but they're a minority. Most people are like the first example I shared. People supporting a movement may have different intentions and thoughts behind it.00 Reply
+1 yWell, I think everybody needs to be comfort in their own body. Your body is your temple, the only place you live in.
I think plus size girl also pretty as long as they are confident and know how to dress up and what is good for their body type/ good fashion knowledge. And nowadays easy to copy a fashion influencer/ fashion stylist from IG or vogue. com ;)
But think about the health. Exercise is good for the body. I always trying to encourage my plus size friends to at least do some exercise. Maybe a few steps in a day, it is still count as exercise. At least something.
I always tell them to eat healthy, you are what you eat, I never encourage people to diet and starve their self. Food is always about quality, never about quantity.00 Reply
+1 yBeing positive about your body is one thing. Normalising obesity is another. Obesity is a disease that decreases the life span and leads to a range of other illnesses and problems. Unfortunately this disease has reached epidemic proportions in many countries, and it is decreasing the quality of life of millions of people, shortening lives and creating a burden on our healthcare systems. Sadly there is a dramatic rise of children who are overweight and obese and we are setting these kids up for a future of cancer, depression, diabetes, vascular disease etc.
Trying to normalise overnutrition/obesity is not helping sufferers, children or our society in general. Being proud of your body is good but trying to promote obesity as sexy and sassy is stupid and detrimental.00 Reply
+1 yI feel like it’s meant to & should advocate that everyone accepts their body for what it is. Our bodies will change & take on numerous forms throughout our lives. For the longest time, the media & society has pushed losing weight as a way to become attractive. Instead of encouraging people to exercise to improve their health, we are told that being skinny is of upmost importance. Which I feel body positivity isn’t just for people who are shamed for not being thin. I feel it teaches everyone to ignore the negative messages in our media & instead love themselves more. I’ve struggled with eating disorders & body image issues since my early teen years. The body positivity movement completely transformed my inner thoughts & my body has never looked nor felt better. And I rarely exercise, yet people consistently ask me what I do to look like I do. Happiness! I’m finally happy with myself & that confidence is infectious.
00 ReplyI am not saying being thin or slim always means healthy we all need to spend active lifestyle to be healthy but still it's okay, but fat people stand at the very bottom when it comes to health, A fat body has no benefits at all, A fat body can cause many health problems you should not be positive about negative things, what is the use of keeping yourself blind it does not resolve the problem, people often do that because they are not strong enough to pursue their health goals and finds an easy excuse for their extra flab, a healthy body has many benefits in every aspect of life, so come on get to the gym and stop fooling around, if you don't realize the need you will never do it.
00 Reply930 opinions shared on Health & Fitness topic. meghan trainor used it to sell shit music... it can make people feel better about themselves but she just cashed in big time whilst also sending out the message its ok to give up. the only real answer here is to educate kids about good diet and nutrition rather than greed.
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+1 yWhile it's not necessarily healthy to be overweight, I believe that people shouldn't have to lose weight just because of bullies. If they WANT to lose weight let them do it on their own time!
Simply put I believe people should be proud of who they are and if they feel like they HAVE to lose weight cos of health and not cos of stupid people then let them do it.
Frankly I think it's how an individual looks at the body positivity movement to decide whether it's an excuse or whether it's beneficial.
Some people should just look at the whole picture ya know what I mean?00 ReplyNo its not an excuse to be fat but to show that beauty is more than one perception n kinda hypocritical of celebs to celebrate being curvy when most sleep in the gym. N if u want reality of being curvy and embraced for it come to Africa most of everyone is a replica of a beyonce body shape but more proportioned n a little thicker like 2005 beyonce but since plastic surgery is like almost non existent over here.
But I do think it gives lazy people an excuse to be lazier n not be soo aware or cautious with their bodies health wise.00 Reply- 671 opinions shared on Health & Fitness topic.
+1 yI don't see them using it to promote people with burn scars, lost limbs, or scoliosis. So yeah, it's just to make fat women fell better about themselves and overlook their alarmingly declining health.
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I have scoliosis, as in visibly, and I think that the body positivity movement has done a lot for me. Have you seen the models for aerie? A lot of them have visible medical conditions. So I’m going to have to disagree with you there.
I think there could be a point to be made that some people use it to ignore health risks of certain lifestyles, but I certainly wouldn’t say that’s all it does. I wouldn’t even say that that’s the majority.
+1 yBy body positivity I understand accepting different body types. Some women have a hourglass shape, some rectangle, etc. It can go the otger way aroung withbeing underweight. You can be as skinny as you want, but don't try to make it a norm. I have seen very skinny people calling normal people fat just as some overweight people call normal people too skinny.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI have mixed feelings about the body positivity movement. I think its purpose should be to remind people that the way their body looks does not determine their value as a person. However, I do not agree with the statement that every body is beautiful, especially if that is encouraging someone who is at an unhealthy weight to stay at an unhealthy weight or even make it more extreme (whether that weight is too low or too high). Saying every body type or every person is physically beautiful is just a lie. Yes every person has value and life is beautiful in its complexity but we have evolved to only find certain things attractive and that’s that.
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Opinion Owner+1 ySo on second thought I guess what I’m saying is that a “personal value” movement would be much better. Society places way too much importance on physical appearance, to the point that people forget that there are much more important characteristics for a person to have.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yEveryone who is slightly overweight knows it and gets told it all the time by everyone. It’s like everyone seems to think they’re the only person to have told them... it hurts. Body posistivity is realizing that while you are working on your health aspects, you’re still beautiful. I don’t personally believe I’m beautiful... but I can tell you the shame I’ve had my whole freaking life for being a bit chubby really hurt me... I officially hate myself. Maybe if someone besides my mother had been a bit more positive I wouldn’t hate myself. It’s hard to lose weight for some of us. I hate that I know I’ll never be pretty even if I lose weight. I hate that I still hear taunts from kids and adults in my life for being chubby—not obese, just chubby—ringing in my mind every time I exercise or consider having a piece of Halloween candy like my skinny sisters.
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No it is not about saying it is okay it is about motivating them to loose weight and tell them that they are beautiful. For example I'm underweight and I won't do better if you tell me I'm ugly and I shouldn't be seen in society. But I Think we should have People who are healthy weight that models and all heights. Not underweight or overweight (mostly but sometimes) because it can send the wrong message.
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I was meant to write my own comment lol not to you. Sorry
Opinion Owner+1 y@Spongebob1528 totally understand, lol
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Good!😆😅 And I agree with you too!
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Sponge I don't fully agree. Why would you want those considered less good looking to model? That's like saying you want less skilled hockey players on an NHL team to better represent the average person.
Opinion owner, there is nothing wrong with being a little "chubby." Aslong as you have a good personality you will probably find someone who likes you. The way I see it is those who are super attractive have to deal with lots of garbage people to find the one, but since less may be interested in you, you don't have to sift through them. Those people making fun of you are idiots. Even if you don't find someone attractive it doesn't mean you should make fun of them for it. - +1 y
@nathanp97 i never Said they were less Good looking I Said that it is because they should know they are beautiful no matter what weight or height. Having overweight and underweight models is great when showing that they are beautiful but nobody should strive to become overweight
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And they aren't less Good looking and it's actually discriminating woman to Only show tall skinny underweight girls because a short model could model really good but they won't just let you because it isn't sean as a Good thing in the modeling world. But playing hockey you just have to be Good at it.
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And the best models are the best looking models, who are the tall and skinny ones often with big breasts. Male models are all tall and muscular and you don't see men complain about that. People just need to grow thicker skin. I'm not great look, yet you won't see me complain when I see good looking people on TV.
Also are you aware that some models and women intentionally try to gain lots of weight, and that fat models who start to loose weight are actually shamed? - +1 y
@nathanp97 do you reslize that pretty much all models look the same and has to be tall. I can change my weight but I can't change my height and I as a short person should have the same privlige as a tall woman in the business some people even think shorter is better looking and some don't. But the point is to show that every bodytype and heigjt is beautiful. It is discriminating for short people to not get the same chance by fact. And yes some models are trying to get curvy which is really great but most are still underweight on live catwalk. Like Victorias secret
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I'm referring to obesity not curvey. The problem with your logic is where to draw the line. Is it discrimination to not allow people with unibrows, and other facial deformities to model.
Modeling is a competitive environment and they work really hard to look good. Have you seen some of their diets and workout routines? And people who are average or overweight don't put in the same effort. Not everyone can model, just like not everyone can play professional sports. It doesn't mean your ugly it just means you aren't good looking enough.
Maybe we should be encouraging women to grow thicker skin instead of complaining about models. Men handle it fine and so should women.
You keep saying it is discrimination but it isn't. They aren't hired because they don't look like what most people find appealing. They don't sell as well. If their becomes more of a market for it people will start doing it. Basic economica - +1 y
@nathanp97 that's not true it is discrimaination I'm sorry if you don't unserstand that may be you should read about it. And anyone can chooce to have unibrows or not but you can't chooce your height it is like saying you can't model because you aren't white. Things you can't change are being judge for and it's discriminating.
And there are a lot of short people that are amazing models that don't get the chance to model like the tall ones and it's the same for curvy woman. Almost 1% of catwalk are curvy woman the rest is underweight and like 180 cm tall - +1 y
I feel like this conversation is pointless because we aren't getting anywhere. I don't see it as discrimination because companies are only doing what is selling. If it didn't sell they wouldn't do it so it isn't discrimination. Companonly care about money not the people, so you can't say they are discriminating.
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@nathanp97 and that's why it's discrimaination and they do sell. But I agree lets agree to disagree
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yFat chick here. I would like to say it promotes body positivity however I think it tends to be biased specifically towards fat women. Skinny women get body shamed as much as us fat chicks do but you never here of the movement pandering to skinny girls, or curvy girls, or even girls like me who are fat but nothing near Tess Holliday and her morbidly obese frame. I think that as a fat woman, if you want to feel beautiful get healthy and get in shape. It’s more beneficial in the long run health wise
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+1 yI think for some yeah, but there’s a whole plethora of reasons why people are fat. Some don’t metabolize the same as others so even after eating the right food and exercising, the fluctuation in their weight doesn’t shift. People’s biology is sometimes to blame for why their fat and why despite all their efforts, can’t seem to break out of their overweight spell
30 ReplyIt's all bullshit. Like if you wanna be fat then be fat. If you feel good about yourself then good. But don't expect me to say how great you look when all I'm seeing is 10 lbs of butter in a 5 lbs sack.
Just leave me out of your bullshit and I won't say anything that will offend you. That's the deal 👍10 ReplyI suspect that the movement was seeded by the process food industry through PR firms and hidden cutouts. The intention is to focus the public away from asking “why is our society getting so obese and what is the root cause”, to believing somehow fat is beautiful. It is not normal, beautiful, or healthy and trends exactly along the same lines as the introduction of GMO, HFCS, and other unnatural stuff in our foods.
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+1 yNo. Body positivity isn't just for fat people either. Degrading people for the way their bodies looks literally does nothing towards fixing their mental or physical health. Being against body positivity is just an excuse to talk shit and accomplish nothing. Also, if you can't maintain some sense of positivity towards your body you're left with zero motivation to actually change.
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+1 yyeah just a little bit but it's also for people who aren't fat and still have body image issues. Body positive is also for naturally skinny women/men who get told they look anorexic even though they eat normally like everyone else. Also it's for people who just naturally have low self esteem as well.
10 ReplyPretty much. Body positivity should be for people who have some kind of health condition or disability. Those people really can't help the way they look and because of that they shouldn't be ashamed at all. But those who are overweight as a result of laziness and over-eating shouldn't feel positive about that. I think we just live in a culture that would rather justify and even encourage weak behaviour and a victimhood mentality.
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Its people wanting to accept themselves being very unhealthy and unwilling to chance.
Just like the #metoo movement originally started off to shame local highschool guys who unknowingly got a little handsy with their girlfreinds who could not say no.10 Reply
+1 ySome will make any excuse not to do something that requires effort. If you like the way you look, great. Others should not shame you that's wrong. If you don't like the way you look get off the couch and do something about it. It's a choice. I don't shame big people as long as they don't complain about it while doing nothing to change it.
00 ReplyIt depends on if its being promoted in relation to people who are very overweight and obese. In that case yes its unhealthy but I think body positivity is important if you're talking about people who are a healthy weight but dont have a lot of muscle tone, scars, stretch Marks, cellulite, post-pregnancy bodies etc.
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+1 yI knew there would be at least one fat bitch trying to pull the "Muh juhneticks!" and "Muh cundishuns!"
I didn't even make it past SouthernFatty's response, so if there were more, I don't know.
Muh juhneticks... yah, genetics are the reason for lardasses, not eating twelve Big Macs and six large orders of fries, or sitting on the couch for days on end pouring entire packages of Oreos, bags of Cheetos, and 2 liter bottles of soda down your gullet.
Rrrrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhttttttt...00 ReplyI think some people use that as an excuse but the underlying premise is valid and needed. Many people do suffer from body image issues and they may only be 10 to 20 pounds over weight. There are people like Emily Ratajkowski and Channing Tatum that are very lean and could be seen to be the ideal physical specimen of their gender, but those people are in the top 1% and not everyone can look that way. I believe it's fine to be 'normal' whatever that may be and accept yourself.
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+1 yOh I think the core idea is thoroughly positive but it's increasingly appropriated to glorify obesity instead.
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+1 yNot exactly, what they are trying to do is stop people from shaming other for being fat, and also helping themselves by saying "I'm fat, but I can still feel like a human being." What should be happenning is that they should be getting these overweight models to go to a gym, and show that you can be healthy and fat, if that is the way your body is. It shouldn't be about, fat being a good thing. They should be showing that it's ok to be fat and healthy and active.
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+1 yThere are a lot of people who are unwilling to give up the part of their identity that struggles with their weight. I grew up with two obese parents (all five of us siblings are in exceptional shape) I've heard all the excuses.
No people don't have to be insta fit or models, people don't always have to be slim, it's okay to be overweight. My issue with the body positivity movement is it gives people an out when they're still gonna complain about their weight anyway.00 Reply
+1 yHappiness is all that matters. I will say however, being body positive whilst being overweight won’t prevent a stroke and a heart attack. I’ll repeat that happiness is all that matter and if one of the larger folk are happy, so be it. Just think about how you’re a higher risk to take up medical resources than those who are slimmer. Forget body positive and get away from the repugnant media. Be health positive. The world is mad.
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+1 yIt is an excuse. Because: There is no need to trumpet one's feelings to everyone, unless I have a problem. When I then respond to my problem by saying that there is no problem, it all becomes a comedy. ''Movements'' like this will not bring solutions. It's a situation like ''Trump, or not Trump'' / Guns or no guns / etc.
00 Reply Like almost all matters regarding human beings, it depends on how people use it. Some people are able to manifest some sense of value through the awareness offered by the movement. Others are using it as an excuse to be shiftless, and still demand special treatment for the myriad of health problems and inconveniences that come with being overweight.
00 ReplyYes but I wonder why the body positive movement rarely celebrate people with unique looks or visible disabilities or heck even really skinny people (if they use the excuse health then they need to prove being fat is healthy).
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+1 yAlmost. It's an excuse to force people to think you are attractive, no matter your body type. Total bs. Be how fat you want, I don't give a shit. But come tell me you're attractive when you look like the Stay Pufft Marshmallow Man, and I'm going to disagree.
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+1 yMore of a justification for it. What we need is a fat tax and to force fat people to pay extra for the space they take up in planes, trains, buses, movie theatres, night clubs etc.
10 ReplyI think the fat lazy people that don’t care about their health will for sure use it as an excuse.
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I personally believe it means that everyone is beautiful no matter their size. That doesn't mean that overweight/underweight people should be proud of being unhealthy, it just means that they are still beautiful.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo, it's about demotivating people from restraining themselves, limiting their excess consumption, and keeping in good health- offering them false reassurance that "you're still beautiful no matter how bad, unfit or immobile you are", so that they'll keep stuffing their faces and fueling the consumerist culture of the West.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNo it is not about saying it is okay it is about motivating them to loose weight and tell them that they are beautiful. For example I'm underweight and I won't do better if you tell me I'm ugly and I shouldn't be seen in society. But I Think we should have People who are healthy weight that models and all heights. Not underweight or overweight (mostly but sometimes) because it can send the wrong message.
00 ReplyYes it is. Being happy with your body is one thing but being healthy is another.
Different people have different lines on where the healthy unhealthy line lives.
But the body positivity movement has the line way too far into the overweight section.00 Reply
+1 yObesity is unhealthy, often leading to diabetes and heart disease. We want to encourage people to lead healthy, active lives. Insulting people for being obese might not be the best idea, though (discouraging them from continuing on their current path is justified).
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+1 yIt is in fact an excuse to get fat and remain fat. It's an excuse to sit around and much cookies and pizza drink cokes all day while talking on the phone watching TV or playing video games. This is where women in a lot of Europe really shine compared to here in the states, that and not all tattooed up.
00 ReplyNot necessarrily. I think it's closer to being more comfortable in your own skin. It doesn't mean you should stop caring about how you look or your health. It just means you shouldn't think bad about yourself just because you're not model material.
10 ReplyIt can be both.
Some people are losing weight and are just tired of criticism and just want to follow their diet in peace.
Some like to be fat, they like how their body looks overweight and are aware and capable to handle the consequences.
Some are damaged by it. They don't understand the health problems they have and the movement is preventing them to become healthy.00 Reply
+1 yThe idea behind it is that not everyone has to look model perfect and a little extra weight here or lack of weight there is good. This is a good idea and 100% support it. But now I think it has become a excuse for being overweight by choice
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yYes, but it depends. If someone looks like they have trouble walking or just like a tank because of their obesity and they're trying to promote it, then yes, they're using it as an excuse.
However, if the person promoting it just looks like they got a bigger but or some perfectly fine curves & yet they get bullied for it, then it's about genuinely trying to raise positivity.
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+1 ybeing fat can be okay since you can be healthy and fat but being really underweight or obese can be bad and I think some use it as an excuse so that they don't have to put the effort into exercising or eating healthy
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you can be healthy overweight or underweight it just depends like where you fat is distributed and how much muscle you have and for underweight it depend on underweight you are.
This post shows that girls, not all, will believe the most retarded s**t so long as it evokes a somewhat positive (perceived) emotion.
Not saying men are better of perfect or anything.11 Reply- Show More (100)
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