What do you think about the body positivity or fat positivity movement?

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Personally, I hate it, I think it's dumb. Not that I hate body positivity or fat people, I think body positivity itself is a great thing. But the movement has changed to become a sort of excuse for overweight or obese people when being 300lbs+ isn't healthy. Even when it comes to beauty, I don't think you can be beautiful at every weight, at some point you aren't "curvy" anymore (beauty is subjective tho, for sure there are others who think a heavier weight is more attractive). The fat/body positivity community also has a lot of toxic people in my opinion who throw around the phrase fat phobic and support food addiction. Ofc not everyone is like that, fat/body positivity can be a good thing. It's just like cancel culture with how it's originally a good thing but there are some people who make it bad.

That's my opinion or perspective on the body positivity thing, I think it could be much better. I feel like the current body positivity with how all bodies are beautiful, is currently too focused on heavier people. I think I'd like to see some focus on skin color or disabilities too.

Lol sorry if I came off a bit rude, I don't feel like wording everything "nicely" currently so I'm just being more blunt and straightforward.

CuteNerd9 · Accepted Answer

I think like any movement people can twist it and use it to excuse things that shouldn't be excused. Should obesity and an unhealthy lifestyle be celebrated and encouraged no. But there are overweight people who are so who are overweight due to genetic disorders or things like thyroid disease. And I think there are people who are on the opposing side of this moment that are taking the opposition to an extreme as well. Guiding a disdain for what they consider to be fat people behind a concern for health. Let me make it clear, I do not think you are one of these people, I'm just pointing out that they exist. I think some people who are overweight want to be part of this movement because they have a legitimate issue causing their excess weight and are tired of being lumped in with people who are just unhealthy and do not exercise. One point I would like to make is that none of the people in the picture you used are obese. Which is another issue. People these days throw that word around applying it to anyone with a little extra weight. Body positive should aim to let these women, not the obese and unhealthy, feel good about themselves even though their body doesn't fit the social definition of beauty. I guarantee you that no doctor would say the weight of any of the women in your picture is of any great health concern. The problem is society lumping them in with people who truly have eating and weight issues.

Spiffy_and_Tails · Accepted Answer

Honestly, I think it just needs a counterbalance on encouraging people to be healthy. Not just "healthy weight" but healthy body in general.

It's hard for a lot of people to just lose weight, especially if they don't know how to do it in a healthy manner, or don't want to because that may take longer.

When the goal is "healthy looking" instead of just healthy, I don't think that does near as much good. People shouldn't be shamed into looking healthy. They shouldn't be shamed for looking unhealthy. There should be people / movements out there encouraging real health starting from any point, even if getting healthy doesn't include losing a lot of weight right away.

If people were more conscious of what their body is doing rather than just how it looks, we would be better off. So I think body positivity shouldn't be the main focus when it's all about how you look. I don't think it's generally bad though, at least in principle.

AdithyaR · Accepted Answer

Agreed with you.
Body positivity was technically meant for people will disabilities or people who lost body parts in an accident or someone with a growth deficiency.

Now even for a fat person body positivity means you should love yourself, no one should hate themselves for the way they look.
I have s classmate and very close friend of mine who has a thyroid gland problem which causes her to gain weight. She always eats properly and does a lot of physical activity, she doesn't looks obese cause she's done what she can to maintain her body's proportion. But she can never fit the society's definition of thin but that's okay cause medically she's healthy and she works to keep herself as fit as she can. Body positivity works here cause she loves herself the way she is.
But cases like hers are not very common.
A majority of obese people are due to poor eating and lack of exercise. Now an obese person like this cannot use body positivity as an excuse to stay the same and expect people to consider them attractive. Cause the truth is, an obese person will not be considered attractive.
According to body positivity, even the obese person should love themselves but also take an effort to get healthier.

Jjpayne · Accepted Answer

I think there are good and bad things about it. I agree that it should not be used as an excuse and bring healthy for your body should be encouraged. But you should as a baseline feel good about yourself in general and that's what I feel could be best result from the movement is more self confidence that leads towards better health choices

ADFSDF1996 · Answer

It’s a hypocritical movement, it claims to be against “body shaming” yet the movement still has no problem shaming people who don’t meet their criteria.

Asian men are shamed by the “body positivity” movement
short men are shamed by the “body positivity” movement
petite feminine women are shamed by the “body positivity” movement
chubby men are often shamed by the “body positivity” movement
muscular men are shamed by the body “positivity movement”

That’s quite a lot of body shaming for a movement that claims to be against body shaming.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I agree with everything you said. I got tired of hearing fat people say, "I've got big bones!" or "I have a glandular problem," so now there is a new justification or excuse for being fat. This is just more PC nonsense.

MzAsh · Answer

As long as they don’t hate on skinny people, I don’t care what they do. No one is under any obligation to be thin.

bluetoblack99 · Answer

Not every body is beautiful. Sorry.

It’s like a 65 year old bald man with lots of wrinkles expecting woman to treat him the same as a 23 year athletic young man. Except in the old man’s case he has NO ability to change his age. At least a fat girl can put in the effort to get her fat ass in shape. But 9 out 10 times it really comes down to mental laziness and lack of discipline.

Also you don’t see ugly fat guys pushing this crap. Although women do get judged more form their physiques than men it’s not to say an obese man is at a huge disadvantage compared to a fit man when it comes to dating.

Last but not least being overweight is about health. If you are likely going to die much younger if you don’t do something about it. Telling these women “they beautiful and it’s okay” seems nice on the surface but it’s a huge lie. They need to be motivated to do something about it.

by the way I have never in my entire life teased or bullied a fat girl. I have had fat girls say nasty insults to me. It would of been completely justified to point out the obvious but I didn’t. but at the end of the day I don’t feel sorry for them. Especially the ones that are loud, obnoxious and can be bullies.

GlitterFairy16 · Answer

I think fat positively is extremely dangerous, its no difference to encouraging and praising people with anorexia bouth are equally dangerous life styles and shouldn't be glamorised.

I've seen the dangers of over eating and had family members die from obesity related illnesses and its horrible to see my family members eat themselves to death. Its not healthy and i don't care what anyone says. There not the one's having to pick up the pieces of their poor choices, there not the one driving the ambulance to take them hospital after injuring themselves because they're body can't take the weight, there not the family members caring for them, there not the one paying taxes to the NHS to pay for their health care when it could be going ti a child with cancer.

I've struggled with my weight and body myself and seeing what my family have dealt with im scared of ever getting as fat as them and will quickly try to lose weight. I've been fat shamed and it's horrible but it does work, the guilt and embarrassment makes me never want to experience that again and prove them people wrong.

Now body positively is good in my eyes as long as they are showing healthy bodys and showing people everyone comes in different shapes and sizes and we have to be happy with what life gave us and see it as a gift over a flaw. For to long the media has had damaging beauty standards and told women and men they have to look a certain way to be beautiful when really if everyone looked the same it be boring and ture beauty would mean nothing. Are individualitys is what makes us beautiful.

BeMuse · Answer

It’s just more Feminist/SJW propaganda garbage. People should be encouraged to be within a healthy weight range, stay fit through regular exercise, and to eat in moderation. People will ultimately be attracted to whatever turns them on. So the agenda that they are pushing not only sets those girls up for failure in finding a partner, being attractive and likable at job interviews, or making friends, but it ultimately damages their personal health. All of those failures stacking up will be far worse for someone’s mental health than some product marketing company promoting an image to get fit if you want to wear their clothing line.

laPrincesitaRoxi · Answer

I hear what you’re saying but I think you may be confused what it’s promoting, all the movement is for is for big women to feel like they are still beautiful beyond their weight and so people can still treat them just as anybody else and guys aren’t afraid of openly dating them anymore.
The thing is it really doesn’t have anything to do with their obvious food addiction (although a food addiction isn’t always the reason behind somebody’s weight ) but just rather the ability to be able to still have self love and beyond it beyond themselves too.

KeziL · Answer

Yeah I don’t think you should be proud to be fat and unhealthy. I see those fabletic “woke” body positive ads and they’ve got so many lumps going, like girl I get you wanna feel included but people weren’t joking when they said some people just shouldn’t wear leggings/bikinis.

We should push for healthy. Doesn’t have to mean the stick thin anorexic models, but you know, not obese. 300 lbs ain’t cute. Swap your soda for water and eat some fruit, let’s not celebrate the fact that some people cannot walk from their house to their car without being out of breath and needing to take a break. That’s ridiculous.

Jac2424 · Answer

I think that there is a difference between celebrating different body shapes and normalising unhealthily over weight (or under for that matter) people.
I'm all for people being happy in their own skins and feeling confident however that must not make it seem like it's a great idea to be drasstically over weight.
People get a bit weird when it comes to weight. If your friend was damageing their health by doing drugs heavily, drinking and smoking you'd try to talk to them about it and help them...

cheapshotbob · Answer

i was at 265 , had a stroke due to stress and other factors now im at 235 and i fully recovered from my stroke i can't run though. the whole fat movement was not an issue for me i could care less about it , in fact im still a little chubby at 235 but fat women still see me as unattractive because i dont see a buffet bar as a snack before lunch at a steak house XD.

but no i dont agree with the fat positivity movement thing , and there all gonna end up having stroke if they dont change, im a rare statistic to fully recover from a stroke with no ill effect other than running. and it does make me wonder what makes being so fat you need to grease you hips to fit through a door so appealing it has done nothing for me but give me a stroke.

lilyanony1 · Answer

I'm sick of it. We need to be healthy. We need to look at promoting fitness not just the gym. We need to be encouraging women to talk about any health issues they may have and seek the appropriate help. We also need to get health care professionals off, old methods of just prescribing medication and really educate people on the type of diet they have, the conditions they have too if there are any.

That way people might stop fat shaming because we'd all recognise that we're all getting the right tools to help deal with their health.

They also need to educate people about mid aged bodies.
Slowing metabolism, 3 pregnancy body menopause and such the side effects of the transitional period, what to look for if things get bad, any lifestyle changes.

I'm ranting but we need to be real with each other, women especially spend more for better health than not. Do it morally right! Win win for all.

triff · Answer

An extremely hard question but I think we have to look at this with a very open mind and why does this feel a problem for you 1st of all let's just state for the record There are many reasons for obesity Obesity can be an illness as serious as anorexia We also have over active thyroids and many more conditions with simular outcomes There are of course people who comfort eat or maybe a group of people who do eat unhealthily So I can see a positive for body positively what ever the size We have opposite thoughts where some find the more proptorioned attractive over the athletic size

nelly83 · Answer

Fat people get bullied. Being fat in no way justifies bullying of any sort. This is why I am in favor of body positivity. There is no requirement to look skinNY in order to exist on earth. If fat people wanna be fat, let them be. If they don't want to be fat, they would Lose it themselves

And no bitch, you're not entitled for a gorgeous view every time you open your eyes. Ugly people do not need plastic surgery just to make u happy.

you dont need to be 300 pounds to be bullied for weight either. Some people get bullied for simply being 40 pounds overweight.

FakeName123 · Answer

The fat positivity movement is just one of plenty excesses of low-quality people trying to disrupt any sort of hierarchical thinking. It is a direct attack on merit- and value-systems. Similar to political systems such as socialism that only benefit those at the bottom half and not those that perform and compete.

Just notice how these people advocating for such things are always people that - if you are honest to yourself - you would consider losers. Why would you develop self-discipline to work on yourself and better yourself, if you can just complain and demand that others find you beautiful no matter what. Even if we would argue that physical beauty is irrelevant, these people are not beautiful on the inside, either. They are descipable and disgusting. Parasites who are trying to normalise their parasitism through emotional blackmail. Reality is, these people are not morally superior and thus have no ground to act from a morally superior position.

snowboarder720 · Answer

There’s definitely a line between being body positive and being healthy.
I encourage everyone to feel body positive but that really isn’t an excuse to let your body health go to shit and then be proud of it. At the same time it’s VERY unhealthy to shame others for their body and how we think about their body. It’s something that every person should be self conscious of it.
Overall I encourage body positivity.

Saturnxox · Answer

It makes me feel good. I only follow body positive people on Instagram. The influencers who don't look perfect 24/7 pr photoshop their pictures. They are just truly them selves and I love it.

SomeGuyCalledTom · Answer

If each of us had the independence of mind to determine one's own movement through life, then nobody would need a "movement" to speak for them. If I woke up one day being clinically obese, I wouldn't be spending my time looking for a "movement" to join that makes me feel better about being obese. Instead, I'd throw out all the processed junk from my fridge/freezer, load up on whole unprocessed foods, and chow down on fresh fruits, vegetables, and lean proteins until I reached a healthy BMI again. Self-determination is the only determinant that really counts, once you hit those scales and actually track the numbers. This goes for any area of life, not just weight management.

jshm2 · Answer

You're confused as those are two different movements

#bopo or #bodypositivity is more about bulimia and eating disorders support. The people are usually thin, White and fairly middle class.

Whereas #fatacceptance or "fat feminism" is more general public and about women of colour and their image and acceptance in society.

DiscomfortZone · Answer

Well, your opinion happens to be the objective truth. That's what movements tend to do, destroy everything about their once great ideology and become a shit gathering of oxygen wasting self indulging attention whores. Look at feminazism - a misandrist hate cult with nothing that deals with gender equality. Look at BLM, an anti white racist hate group that does nothing but deal in the "rights" of blacks to vandalism and assault ("I'm allowed because I'm black and slavery sucked, and Rodney King and George Floyd!!1). It's sad and at the same time ridiculous. So fuck these movements and fuck the shit for brains space wasting maggots who support them.

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