
What are your thoughts on the body positivity movement?


I feel people should only exercise for their own energy and stamina and for themselves not for someone else’s approval or to be accepted , When people say they exercise for their health they don’t really know what they are talking about , Exercise has nothing to do with health , everyone has their own body type so it comes down to how they carry themselves , I know people that lived at the gym and watched what they ate and were confident on their looks but still dropped dead at a young age , so people that focus on their looks constantly are more than likely suffering low self esteem about themselves and thinking the only way they can be accepted is by their appearance. Which is a dumb and sad way to live, cuz they are living a false reality, cuz no one really cares , only people that care are the people with low self esteem within themselves , people that criticize on how other’s look or compare themselves to other’s are the biggest pieces of shit on the planet. Starving yourself and watching your calories and taking supplements is just as bad as someone that over eats and doesn’t care what they eat , so if you hate yourself that much then change for yourself but not for other’s approval , I feel bad for most girl’s cuz Girls constantly think they are fat or overweight when really they are beautiful just the way they are , if they carry themselves with a good heart is what matters , so Bottom line looks aren’t everything , what makes someone beautiful is their heart and how they carry themselves , To me it’s a turn off when I meet someone that is overweight and they constantly hate themselves and don’t do anything about and compare themselves to people they wished they looked like having that negative attitude is a turn off , but if they are overweight and happy with themselves then I don’t see anything wrong with that it’s all about how someone carries themselves Cuz it’s also a turn off when I meet someone that is fit and acts like their shit don’t stink as well and takes tons of selfies of themselves and says look at me , Most people I knew that were overweight and dropped all their weight were the ones that ended up cheating on their partners that stood by them when they were overweight , to me they are the biggest piece of shits on the planet , I have witnessed that so many times, and those same people that did that ended up fat and overweight again , that’s why I prefer a girl that is in between and can let loose and just be herself not what other’s want her to be , if you are in a relationship with someone that criticizes you and tells you what you can eat or how you need to dress , you need to dump that person and find someone that loves you for you
I think it is a good movement. I know it is very controversial because of course, we can all agree we all want this movement for the better health of everyone. We do not want people to be getting weight-related diseases because of their unhealthy weight, and we can all cumulatively agree on that. However, I do not think shaming other people for their weight is acceptable at all. There are a couple of reasons for this.
The first reason I want to address is that fat-shaming is absolutely not motivational at all. It, in fact, has been known to be the root of eating disorders, depression, and low self-esteem, and a number of obese people would have already had the habit of binging food to compensate for their low mood. This, in turn, has a greater chance of making those fat even more obese because their binging pattern is a continuous cycle.
To elaborate, self-esteem-related issues are not to be underestimated. Mental health is a serious matter, and ruining that for the benefit of someone's physical health has a high chance of completely backfiring on them. According to a study consisting of 254 adolescent psychiatric inpatients and 288 high school students, "low self-esteem was related to higher levels of depression, hopelessness, suicidal ideation, and an increased likelihood of having previously attempted suicide" (J. C. Overholser, D. M. Adams, K. L. Lehnert, D. C. Brinkman). Underestimating the devastating self-esteem effects leads to suicide rates shooting upwards, especially for adolescents. We know your intentions are for the greater good, their better physical health in the long run, but we should value mental health, the compass of the physical body on whether it decides to remain alive in the first place. We all deserve human respect.
To continue, you do not know someone's progress in their weight-loss journey. They could be in the first ten pounds or the first fifty pounds or could have just started, and to lash hate onto them only worsens and suppresses their progress. Whether someone ultimately decides to lose weight will require inner motivation for change: someone else cannot physically make someone else lose weight, and it is more likely that the hate will overlap your good intentions for them.
Second of all, there are rare conditions that could determine their weight. You do not know what kind of financial situation they are in that they cannot maintain their weight. You do not know how difficult it can be for people in their situation to lose weight, because it is not only about whether you personally could survive in their situation, but whether they mentally could do it in the first place: you do not know. We do not know the root cause of this issue: whether it be the lack of time, an upsetting divorce or breakup, et cetera, and there would have already been a number of ignorant people who have commented to lose weight, but it is not always as easy. And to link back to my first point, you don't know their progress in their weight loss.
Third, we just need to stop the toxic cycle of shame. I do believe obesity is definitely on a rise and it is concerning. But shaming is absolutely not the way to bring any sort of resolution to this problem. The real way to improve this problem is by gentle encouragement onto their goals. If you notice someone who is overweight is in a weight-loss journey, encouraging them is the best way to ultimately motivate them. Other than that, it is absolutely impossible to make someone change their entire lifestyle after someone negatively talks about them.
Anyway, let me know what you think and feel free to reply.
i don't really care. i don't know why what other people eat or don't eat seems to bother so many of us. it's like you are all worried you will get diabetes if a fat person sits next to you. fucking hilarious. just leave these people alone, and don't be rude without being given a reason. i used to be fat. i KNEW it and was working on it, didn't need ugly egotistical rats to compare me to numerous barn animals. most people are extremely mediocre looking (even if they are fit and think that makes them the most beautiful on the planet, they could have an ogre looking face or a blah face that's nothing interesting to look at). i leave people alone and mind my own business. i only judge them by their character and actions, not by how they look.
i only care about how i look, my weight, and my health. the way other people choose to live their lives does not affect me in any way. i don't understand this obsession some people have with fat people. i am also about 5-10 lbs overweight. i am still working on it but don't think i'll ever look like a Victoria's Secret model or have abs, and i frankly don't give a fuck if that horrifies some men who live most of their lives in the gym. as for fat shaming others, don't. it could depress people, make them feel worthless, and may even give them suicidal thoughts. you are not helping anyone when you comment on their weight. overweight people know they are overweight, and are either in the process of losing it at their own pace, or simply don't give a fuck about the opinion of a bunch of "fit people" who have sorry looking faces. i do notice a lot of people have great bodies, but have very sad looking faces. i know you can't do anything about your genetics, but hey, if you yourself aren't flawless perfection and don't want someone to compare your face to a donkey's, don't pick on fat people. rant over. and comment is in general, not directed at the asker.
its bullshit, it only helps fat women, us fat guys can still go fuck ourselves I geuss.
Shit there was even an article headlined something like " plus size girls dont want to settle for overweight men"
So even tho they fat they dont want to date fat men, call us overweight but give themselves cute names like plus size.
It just goes to show that chicks well fat chicks in this example can't handle rejection, oh it sucks to be overlooked emideatly as a possible partner before they even get to know you based on looks alone? Welcome to the club, you've got a tiny taste of what guys put up with trying to date.
The body positivity movement is bullshit, they're mad that after a lifetime of poor diet amd zero exercise that have turned them into a fatty that guys aren't interested yet they will turn down a guy for something as simple as being shorter that 5'10".
The only women who support the "positive" movement are girls who can't handle rejection and refuse to be accountable for there actions, can't face consequences.
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It is a great example of the mindless PC left run amok.
Women are pretty. Skinny women and fat women are pretty.
I have no problem with people feeling more confident about where they're at.
in my opinion, much of the reasons why obesity is becoming more common are due to capitalism making us tired and unhappy and then pushing us to buy unhealthy convenience food. We have *some* control over our weight, but a lot of our ability to be at our target weight comes down to who has money.
If you have a kitchen and free time/energy, you can make food that's healthier than the convenience crap. If you have a kitchen and money and free time, you can make food that's actually healthy for you and you have time to work out. If you have a kitchen and f*ck you money, you can hire someone to feed you only healthy stuff and hire someone to help keep your work out routine in order for you. And you can afford weight loss surgery and liposuction.
Like with everything, being skinny becomes easier the more money you have. in my opinion, fat shaming is classism parading around as "concern for the health of others".
I honestly don’t care what other people do with their bodies. If they want to be unhealthy, fine. But the movement is harmful because not only does it support obesity, it encourages it. The amount of times I’ve seen fat women shame “skinny bitches” for literally existing is too much. And they gate-keep everything. If you’re not fat enough, they shame you in a place you’re supposed to be accepted. Skinny people can have insecurities, but they say that we’re not allowed to talk about them because we “are the beauty standard”. AND body positivity was supposed to be for people with disabilities or ‘imperfections’ like vitiligo or even fat people with conditions that keep them from losing weight.
With that being said, I am all for people feeling great about themselves. You can be beautiful no matter what size. And I don’t support the policing of fat peoples bodies. The body positivity movement has some good ideals, but I feel like those have been warped into toxicity. I cannot stand for a movement that is so hypocritical and insecure.
Funny. 200 years ago most people cared about just getting enough to eat. Now we are all too fat and need body “positivity” movements.
Anyway go ahead and say what you want about “what” is considered attractive vs. what isn’t. However I am going to tell you how it is. This is just a bunch of depressed obese women who aren’t getting attention from men and are jealous of their fitter counterparts. You might be able silence guys from speaking their minds (as if we haven’t been browbeated men enough already) but good luck changing our dating preferences. Attraction isn’t a choice. Most fit/athletic and handsome men are not interested in plus size women nor should they feel compelled.
Also don’t forget to “follow the science” on what is healthy vs. what isn’t. Hate to break it you but it’s more dangerous to be obese vs. a normal weight smoker. 79% of the covid fatalities were obese people. Being overweight is the number one contributing factor to dying from Covid besides. But its funny how that conveniently left out of CDC announcements and the media in general ignores it.
I am not going to tell you that you need to be “positive” about having a shortened life.
Actually the body positivity started out originally for amputees and people with physical deformities
That’s a completely different story and I can supper that. Those people have no control over that. You DO have control over being overweight.
To be fair I realize some people are genetically heavier than others. But there is a huge difference between someone who does their best to eat healthy and exercise consistently vs. someone who just wants to be lazy and stuff their face. I’ve met heavier people who are very active. Even when they aren’t exercising I can see it their posture and movement they are active. But then I’ve met people who don’t want to put in the effort to better themselves and just want sympathy instead. That I don’t respect and neither should you. It’s a harmful lie.
This is coming from someone who was bullied viciously in grade school for being chubby, physically weak by the way. I was the only kid in the class who couldn’t do a pull up. That all changed when I got in junior high and forced myself into tough sports (wrestling, track, etc). I was a fitness model in my 20s.
*I can support that.
I think it started out as a good thing, but it's become incredibly toxic.
I'm against shaming people for things they have no control over, and I think people should be able to be comfortable in their own skin. But obesity IS something you have control over, and it's empowering and healthy to realize you have control over your weight. Making choices that destroy your health and put additional pressure on the healthcare system is not something to be celebrated, it's something that should be appalling. In short, overeating is like smoking, excessive drinking, drug addictions, etc, and it should be treated accordingly.
What body positivity should actually be about is loving yourself despite having things you cannot control, like having something that is disformed, having no limb at all, being born with rare diseases etc. Basically anything you cannot change.
Unfortunately, this has been hijacked by the overweight community to try and cope for their lack of discipline, lack of self-control and crippling self-esteem (due to their weight). This movement has been turned into a pity-fest where screaming to the world "I am happy and love my body" is nothing but a desperate attempt to convince oneself through the means of convincing others. These same people who scream they "love" their body would take a pill that instantly makes them lose the excess weight the next day (in case it existed). So this whole "body positivity" movement is nothing but a facade and at this point pathetic.
I don't like it. I don't like it for the same reasons I dislike many movements. Because they comes off as people attempting to not accept realties of life. Life can extremely unforgiving. It can force you to start over and cost you everything you have. Not everyone is going to like you, agree with you. Not everyone will be nice to you. Much of life is completely out of your control. I think at some level everyone knows the above to be true. People latch on to such moments to ignore the above or not to fully accept it.
Also I think people use a lot of movements to control others. Because the lack of control we have over our life's we have can be over overwhelmingly scary at times. So people will attempt to control others to gain some sense of control. Despite knowing know that taking such a path will cause people to like them less and cause a lot of backlash.
are you under the impression that people should live their lives giving a fuck about others' opinions? because it would be a sad miserable world if that were the case. look, the only opinions i care about are those of my parents, grandparents, a few other members in the family, people i respect and look up to and who respect me in return (such as teachers, mentors, professors), and the man i love. the rest i could care less about their opinions. "life can be extremely unforgiving." AND? life is only extremely unforgiving when you give a fuck about what a bunch of nobodies you will probably never see again in 1-4 years think about you.
@DianaWest I spent nearly 8 months in ICU. Being there did reinforce that life can be unforgiving for people. Also you would be surprised how many people go through their entire ICU stay with out one family member or friend showing up. We would like to think that everyone close to us would be able to put everything aside and be there because they should be. But they didn't. So people end up doing the same thing I did. Bouncing out of a major surgeries and recovering from the list in time for the next. With no friend or family seeing or talking to them once. Hell at this point I count myself lucky for having my mom visiting me several times.
@DianaWest I think he means the exact opposite. People care way too much what others think, so much so that they have to have "movements" to try and force people to say nice things
I think like most things, it was started with good intentions. I don't think there is anything wrong with the premise of feeling good in your own skin or that you don't have to look like a model/actress to be considered attractive. Unfortunately the message has been spun to essentially promote unhealthy lifestyles and even bash on people who have decided to start being healthier and make better decisions and lost weight. That part of it is definitely sad to see and a bit contradicting to the whole movement.
It's bullshit.
Body positivity was meant to help people with permanent body flaws to accept it. Scars, limb missing, birthmarks, handicap of all sorts...
To tell them that despite not being able to change it, they could still accept it and live with it.
But then the fat whales took over, and used it to promote obesity as normal and "beautiful", which IT IS NOT.
And not only they used it to promote being fat, but they also pushed away the people who were concerned first by that movement.
And on top of that, they also excluded fat men, who are still seen, even by the whales, as ugly and disgusting.
And of course they made they own little word to brush off any critic as "hateful": fatphobic.
That movement is now fucked.
In theory good, in practice bad.
You should accept yourself where you are because in the moment you cannot change it. It's not something you can change instantly so accepting where you are now and taking action rather than beating yourself up is good.
Where the movement goes wrong is saying you're perfect and should be praised essentially for being lackluster, unhealthy, and really something that instinctually all humans do not respect.
Getting away from hating on those that don't meet the gold standard I fully support. Going the other direction to praise it I'm against. Especially when people who are in that will basically demonize you if you don't praise someone who is unhealthy or wouldn't date someone like that.
Being physically fit is an indicator of your character and commendable traits related to you accomplishing that goal. Being out of shape does the same.
Just be yourself, live your choice of life, and stop trying to control others decisions.
If you continue to, I honestly do not see how you are healthy yourself if you are extremely obsessed with controling how others live.
This has to be the persons choice and only they can chose to make a change may you think what you think.
The whole movement is not to be seen towards physical health but mental, this includes people who see themselves as healthy. If others chose to use this as a way to glorifying unhealthy patterns then they missed the point of the "self love message" and you can just ignore these people and just respect others so you can learn to respect yourself.
It's fine to a degree. There are different body types. I'll use the example of two of my wife's nieces who are visiting right now. They are both very fit and pretty. But the 33 year old is a flat chested bean pole. The 31 year old is naturally heavier (not fat), with a thicker waist and thighs. She's just built with a lot of meat. Again, they are very active, fit, athletic and pretty. So I think they should celebrate their bodies and not try to compare themselves to others, especially to images in the media.
On the other hand, I refuse to refer to fat pigs as curvy. Rolls of blubber are nothing to be positive about.
@Liam SERIOUSLY!! If you were choosing between two beers, same price, same Lager, and one had commercials with REALLY HOT, CUTE women, in TINY BIKINI TOPS, and dancing around, with those beers.
The other commercial has a bunch of Average-looking, "nice women, with GREAT personalities, just reading books, wearing glasses, just casually laying about, in shorts, and T-shirts, casually sipping that other beer, which beer is the AVERAGE AMEICAN GUY going to buy?
Yeah, it is sexist, yeah it is wrong, BUT SEXY SELLS!! Until you can change that, it is going to be REALITY, no matter how much some HATE IT!!
Sorry to have to state the OBVIOUS!!!
@JackSmy, okay, but I don't know what that has to do with my comment.
I love sexy babes as much as the next guy. But I wouldn't buy a brand of anything based on the sexy babes who are hired to advertise it. I'm actually resistant to manipulation. I find it insulting to my intelligence. I'll still watch the babes, though. :-)
@Lliam But that is the POINT! MOST MEN are much more inclined to buy something, even things they didn't plan on buying, because some attractive woman is showing it off, and smiling at them!
Maybe you are immune, but the MAJORITY of the men, in the US, even married, are still swayed be sexy, attractive women, teasing them, so they buy things!
I don't agree with the objectification of women, to that end, and I too, think I am mostly immune, but the VAST MAJORITY are not!! Hence my post, the comment. . .
Does that make better sense?
@JackSmy. I think one of the problems that people are faced with in today's media saturated society is comparing themselves to the images they see. The beauty industry, for one example, thrives by making women think they aren't beautiful enough. That's why you see so many girls obsessing about whether or not their boobs are too small or their butts are the right size. Guys think that they need to be as buff as movie stars. The fitness and plastic surgery industries are raking in dough from both men and women.
All I said was that girls like my wife's nieces shouldn't compare themselves to anyone. I think it's toxic to do so. Different people have different body shapes. As long as a person stays fit, they should accept themselves.
The only place where I differ from the body positivity movement is in trying to pass off slobs as beautiful. They are not "curvy" they are fat.
I strongly disagree with it in regards to protecting let alone promoting unhealthy lifestyles.
I don't think it's a bad thing at all in regards to coping with and overcoming disabilities. So long as people don't see their own disabilities as their defining trait, being a self-motivated overcomer is a very attractive trait for pretty much anyone to have.
That said, I don't think "the movement" really changes anybody's minds on the subject, and any real benefit is almost exclusively with people who would otherwise be insecure about their own limitations. The more it gets "pushed" on people, the more people will reject it.
Up to a point yes it’s fine.
there is a lot of body shaming going on for both genders, both over and underweight people.
what it is not is an excuse for people to not exercise, pig out and then use the ‘message’ as a shield.
We are individuals and have different body types and shapes, social media try pushing various types, the latest being these rather stupid ‘fat’ arses.
health and body type are closely related and it’s health that’s the most important.
I know big girls that play rugby, kickboxing etc, yes big girls but damn fit.
Yes people should be happy with their bodies and have a positive attitude, however they should not lie to themselves as they have a large rather than small pizza.
as with most things, it’s used by extremists to push why it’s okay for them.
Don’t shame people about their body (both genders), however don’t lie to yourself about why you are as you are.
I think in some terms it's a positive move but negative in others. Being nasty to people just for the way they look is shitty, but justifying someone's unhealthy lifestyle just to appease people is wrong. Obesity is a big problem in western countries and people should have some motivation to change their ways. What I don't like it the media portrayal of what a body should look like. We all come in different shapes and sizes and as long as the person is happy and healthy it really doesn't matter what they look like and more to the point it's nobody else's business.
There's no "positive" side of anorexia, bulimia or obesity.
I don't see the good "shaming" does. It just entrenched the negative behavior that has damaged the body in the first place.
Anorexia/bulimia can cause infertility, kidney failure, liver failure, gastric ulcers, diabetes, osteoporosis, heart failure and death.
Obesity can cause infertility, failure of all major organs, bone disorders and deformities, arterial occlusion, heart disease, diabetes, peripheral neuropathic disease, loss of limbs and premature death.
Being "fat but healthy" doesn't exist. It's a concept dreamed up by some internet "expert" in his basement while jerking off.
It is just another thing sabotaging peoples most important thing -their body&mind-by promoting unhealthy behavior.
An unhealthy BMI stresses your cardiovasculair system, joints, hormones, moods and private life/dating prospects.
Notice how the media in the west always come up with a word to shut down ANY critic without needing any form of scientific evidence -in this case "fatshaming-.
@DianaWest actually I think he has an issue with people pushing the agenda that obese can be heathy. When we all know it’s not, and when you speak up about it you’re called fat phobic.
@Subarugirl why does it bother you though? if obese people want to think they are healthy despite what their doctor tells them, let them think that. i would only be concerned with my weight and the weight of my family because i care about their health. other people can do as they please. i think some people are just rude and don't really care about the health of fat people. they just get a kick out of denigrating and bullying others because it feeds their superiority complex. maybe if these people offered to become the fat person's dietician and personal trainer and offered them positive motivation and told them they are doing it for their own health, safety, and happiness, then i would believe it when people on the internet start raising concerns about fat people's health. and also, when you say that obesity is unhealthy, you really don't think everyone knows that already? it's common sense. what are you adding to the conversation that the fat people themselves don't already know?
@DianaWest Yes I do care, that's why I am in training to be a doctor and am natural bodybuilder/health nut.
I despise the uninformed telling people what is good for them, that is why I bothered replying.
You seem to be another hurdle getting the evidence based message out though, I wonder why...
@darkfoxjj great. i'm glad you care about the health of 7 billion people. many doctors also care about the six figure salary, but if you really care about others, that's wonderful. just most people who comment on others' bodies and health tend to be rude and denigrating because it makes them feel superior making others feel like crap. some people just like being fat and don't particularly care about having a six pack. not everyone lives their life in the gym eating lettuce. i have nothing against people educating others on what's healthy though. i do have a problem when most people have such big egos and put others down. just like people choose to smoke or drink alcohol, fat people choose to be fat. they know it's unhealthy, they don't need randoms on the internet comparing them to various barn animals to understand that. and most people who comment about fat people do it to feed their own egos, not out of any real "concern" for those people's health.
@DianaWest Disagreed, many dont know how to lose weight and are often also depressed.
I think the media and the people that blindly copy their shaming narrative towards anyone who disagrees is far more dangerous.
They never base their views on evidence/science, just on ideology.
by the way I will not earn 6 figures, not based in the U. S.
Retards are making it about supporting obese people instead of helping people who lost their limbs for whatever reason feel better about themselves. I knew people who lost a lot of their skin in either fires or acid attacks, all felt like shit and the 'fat is healthy' nonsense is just moronic and isn't helping anyone.
I'm not fond of jumping on bandwagons or trends
But in the true essence of what people want in terms of acceptance and equality for people of all sizes. I'm here for that.
As long as your healthy and you like the way that you look, then people shouldn't have an opinion or you shouldn't be forced to conform to a specific beauty standard
It went from "promoting mental well-being for those of both sexes with physical blemishes and scars" to an obesity and unhealthy lifestyle lobby group for women.
The former was needed, the latter is causing deaths and disease by idolising negative behaviour.
That's absolutely best answer I've read. Honest and says it all.
It's a backdoor way to promote unhealthy life styles.
Many countries, including France have banned "super skinny" models. Now they just need to ban people who are obese. No good comes from telling kids that it's okay to be too lazy to stay in shape. Making excuses and blaming the 20 diseases you have on genetics is a lie when you only got those 20 diseases after stuffing your face for 10+ years.
I think it's silly. It's not okay to be fat. It's a choice to most fat people, and a slap in the face to those with actual medical conditions that prevent them from losing weight.
I wouldn't be with a fat person simply because they are medically and willfully a risk. I don't want to have to wipe your ass and help someone into their wheelchair, buy a special van, etc.. just because they are too lazy to stay in shape. How is that fair to me?
I frequently say that Life Isn't Fair - and it's true. But taking steps like this at least helps stack the deck in your favor. You can either protect yourself against leechers and gold diggers, or you can come here and complain about how miserable your life is. It's that simple :)
I think it’s good that women aren’t expected to be stick thin anymore because back the although they didn’t all about it much they probably developed a lot of eating disorders because of that and they also didn’t feel beautiful. So I think the body positivity movement is good but it’s only good when it supports being at a healthy weight so I’d say skinny-average if it promotes obesity then that’s bad. Regardless, I think that more women need to see how beautiful they are whether they’re skinny or whatever they are.
Stupid.
As now all fatties 'feel beautiful' and do not care about health issues, that all excess fat is coursing,...
Most annoying to me, that this is pushed same like alphabet people, I do not want to see all that...
Not saying that, they should be shamed for it, but glorifying obesity is not best solution either.
From other side Anorexia is even worse.
Just stop following all what media pushing down your throat, especially women magazines, with their aggressive advertising...
The best body positivity would be to encourage everyone to get into shape. Just remind them of the pros/cons. You can kindly suggest ways for a person to get fit without disrespecting them and calling them rude things. But telling someone they're okay the way they are is not helping anyone physically. Maybe mentally but not physically
It's a sham. Firstly, it's just for women. A fat man is often overlooked by fat women, and fat women expect normal or good-looking men to find them attractive...
Secondly it's promoting unhealthy lifestyles...
Thirdly, it goes against biology that somehow thinks you can rewire a man's brain to not chase and prefer thin and fertile looking women. That's the whole reason makeup is a thing.
Yeah I don’t understand why there no body positivity for men too
I think that you should love the body you have. If your not happy do something to fix it. I wasn't happy and I've been losing weight and feeling much better about myself. I'm not saying that everyone needs to lose weight to feel better. I'm saying so whatever makes you happy regardless of everyone's thoughts
Really , I could copy and paste what Darkfox said below ..
The last thing fatties need is some kind of " Out " , you need to be a healthy weight , you need to monitor this daily , you need some self respect , body positivity movement , just like " Slut walk " will do more harm than ever , and trying to remove personal responsibility is beyond ludicrous.
Yet another piece of PC... BS!
fat people trying to feel better about being fat instead of doing something about it. Unlike a lot of other things, whether you are fat or not is completely within your control. Completely. Its a simple numbers game-the number of calories you eat a day.
Body positivity is a good thing, especially in the face of the deluge of media and fake, edited, beauty, we all live under.
But it also clashes with a lack of fitness. And a sedentary population living off of premade, prepackaged, food, while endlessly scrolling online looking for 'the beautiful people', or while playing video games into the night... is a problem. Not all bodies should be revered. Shaming is over the top, but 100% acceptance of very poor health, is no good either.
There is no such thing you people are delusional. It’s just a platform to make you feel good about yourself. The truth is your fat and need to lose weight or skinny and need to gain weight. The true meaning of body positivity is taking care of yourself. This means eating right, watching portions, having good hygiene, taking care of hair, and etc.
Life will get better because someone told me it would and I need to find peace...
Na you need to fucking go to war with yourself
And after that war then that's when you'll find your fucking peace
Stop tap dancing around the truth. Get uncomfortable with the problem. If you're fat then call yourself fat. If you can't read then say you can't read. Nothing is ever gonna change if you keep tap dancing around the truth. Nothing gets fixed in that world.
I think it's okay for everyone to not be super skinny or to not have a flat stomach or abs. It's okay for people to be stocky or have large frames (but can still be slim) or to even be chubby but being overweight or obese should not be glorified. It's unhealthy and being overweight or obese shows that most of the time those people don't take care of themselves
I'm for it gives me more clothing options having big boobs I need bigger shirts. I'm all for people loving fatties. Makes it easier to find shirts that might fit and look cute! But there's a big difference in what's too fat like being fat and in the 200lb range vs 300lb and up range 300 n up is not good.
I think people have to be in a healthy range weightwise... not skinny and not fat! Anything overweight or underweight is bad for the health and there should be no excuses for laziness or skinny crazes! People who have medical conditions and cannot loose the weight are a whole other story... unfortunately they do not really have that much choice but I'm sure if they could loose the extra punds like a simply chubby person, I am sure they would be much more willing to get healthy!
I'm slightly curvy 5'4 150. I want and will lost 20 lbs for me.
But the positive body movement is honestly gross and I'm no slim mini myself. It's unhealthy and I don't want to see anyone half naked, more so a big fat chick. Society shouldn't fat shame but we also should not encourage such unhealthy lifestyles
Your body image isn't a simple course correction but a huge overhaul on a long term investment. If you can't feel comfortable in your own skin, you can't make that long term investment work for you.
Look at the "biggest losers." Super hard workouts with noticable changes in a short amount of time. A year later it's back at square one for most of them. You have to accept who you are right now and move forward slowly but surely and get to place you want to be.
It's a lie, going around telling unhealthy people that they are okay as they are. Is not solving anything, it just increases the problems caused by the issue. Your not doing anyone a favor. Spend the energy on solving the problem instead like proposing healthy food and shame unhealthy food. But that would basically remove all ad revenue because it's just bad products that needs to be put in peoples face. Good product sells themselves.
I think it's important to not ridicule people for liking body types I personally don't find attractive, which would obviously extend to not ridiculing people who have those body types, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would find those body types attractive and am not willing to pretend otherwise.
It's bullshit. There should be shame attached to being fat. Cause being fat is a choice and for some reason we have no issue with shaming people for unhealthy decisions in every other aspect of life like alcohol, stds, smoking and things like covid...
No matter what you do, what you try, what fake ass legislation gets pushed you cannot force people to accept that which they find unattractive. If it’s done for self or ego it’s understandable, but don’t expect others to watch, encourage or support it. It’s just another loser movement like blm, antifa, lgtbqabcxyz, trying to force your ideas on other people.
Its gone to far, its good telling girls you don't have to look like a photoshop and can have imperfections. But its not good promoting that its fine to be overweight because not only is that unattractive its unhealthy.
Tap dancing around the truth. You're just a little over weight... Na you might be fat. Nothing is ever gonna change until you are uncomfortable with the problem.
It is a crock of crap. If you are fat you are fat and pretending it is OK is not OK. Saying someone is fine the way they are prevents them from trying to better themselves. If they believe they are fine fat then they will believe that guys who do not like fat women are evil or some such BS.
I am revolted by fat women and think they are ugly. I was stuck in a marriage where she gained over 400 pounds and looking at her naked made me want to vomit.
I think as long as the trait isn't unhealthy, people should not be shamed for it. People shouldn't really be shamed for unhealthy traits either, at least not as much as they are, since that can be equally as harmful (and, yes, I'm aware it has caused some people to lose weight, it did that for me). I also think it shouldn't be about appearance, superficiality is one of the worst traits in people. It should be less "you're a disgusting pig and no one should like you" and more "you may want to consider your health and happiness". Not that many people outside of their family or friends really care about their health anyway, it's usually just an excuse to treat them like shit and still make it seem like you're not an asshole.
It's "body positive" not "laziness positive",
So this movement has come out as a result of something.. A lot of people don't know that some obesity is genetic, not all are as we think. No matter what, before we better ourselves, we need to accept ourselves.
And that we can not do given all these standardised idols we have to follow...
People wanna see their uniqueness while being healthy and fit.
That’s what the body positive movement is, trying to force people to accept and interact with people they have no desire to interact with. Just like the transsexual movement, a bunch of faggots wearing dresses demanding that straight men date them, same agenda, same ideals, same concept.
People should love their bodies and take care of it in a healthy way, with moderation, you don't need to feel like shit just because you don't have a TV star body, but at the same time, you shouldn't ignore the health consequences if you become obese, it affects not only your blood circulation, but your mental health. Moderation is key.
I think body positivity can agree with my message.
It's good in the sense we must accept ourselves and if we are to change something about ourselves we do it cause we love ourselves and not because we want to change something we hate. Also it helps in the fact we should still respect obsese people or people with disabilities. Unhealthy or not, they deserve to be treated normally.
No matter what your body looks like, there's always "something" you don't like about it. That's human nature. But if you're really unhappy with your body and choose to rationalize it away by saying "I'm (physically) beautiful like I am and content with it", then you're lying to yourself.
It's gone too far. It's a good thing to be tolerant and accepting of minor "flaws" or accepting that perfection is not to be expected of anyone. But, normalizing unhealthy weight and unhealthy lifestyle choices in the name of body positivity is just dumb.
@OnTheLevel yeah it really is dumb. People can lose weight
Sometimes I skip a meal and everyone around me asks me what's wrong. It surprises them that I didn't eat just because I wasn't hungry. Most people do not have the self restraint to skip one meal and that's why there's the body positivity movement. There are of course those who have health issues but those people are not common.
I can't say I'm overly supportive of it. Everyone should be happy within themselves and have confidence, that should be a basic part of being human, but it does not mean closing yourself off to realities. I mean I am quite overweight myself, and whilst I would hope that nobody would actively discriminate against me due to my weight, I am under no illusions about the consequences and side effects of being my size.
I support opposing body shaming, I even support allowing people to be 'heftier' if they truly want to be (they have that right). What I condemn is the body positivity movements lying about how it affects your health. If people want to be unhealthy, that's their choice. But lying to people about it I'd condemnable.
I wouldn't date fat girls because they are not atractive to me. My preference doesn't represent the preferance of all male-kind.
Many girls are pretty in their 20s and 30s, but by the time they get in their 40s, most mothers are chubby that I have met. When you are raising a child or 2, there is less time for gym I gues.
I think it is just avoiding the problem rather than solving it. It is bad because we all know obesity causes diseases and overall low immunity which can not only affect your health.
but also create the wrong inspiration
You can be as positive as you want, but you can't force that positivity on anyone else. That's the problem. It's gone from "I'm confident in being out of shape" to "you're a shallow pig for not accepting my body as beautiful even though its out of shape".
I accept fat people as worthy of kindness and decency, but I don't want to date them.
I mean, it's okay to learn to love your body, but if you're unhealthy, you should do something about it to change that.
everything in this world these days are extremes, so i dont care either way, however there are also skinny fat people, meaning skinny people who are so outta shape they might as well be fat
@Babebabebabe actually skinny fat is an actual term
thank you
@Babebabebabe i work in healthcare the term exists
This is how I feel! Damn I do believe in taking care of yourself but fuck it you be you! Women sometimes have no control over their bodies you feel! Like some can’t gain weight and some can’t lose weight! Then you have disable women who can’t do shit! If someone has a problem fuck them assholes!
I love it but sometimes I think it’s harmful. There’s a difference between plus size and a danger to your own health. I know I’m not skinny but some people are so big I think it’s more than body positivity. It’s unhealthy
I don't object to anyone feeling good about themselves but the very moment that you try to manipulate others into thinking that you are da bomb, I turn against you.
Everyone deserves to feel good about themselves but everyone also deserves the right to choose when they are attracted to.
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