i think like most movements, it started out with the right idea but it has been corrupted over time. the concept was simple: overweight people deserve as much respect as everyone else. i wholeheartedly agree with this. no one should be disrespected or discriminated against because of who they are or what they look like. but make no mistake, obesity is a medical condition. it is bad for your health and could have devastating consequences later in life if you don't watch your nutrition. i hate how people just lazily point their fingers and blame the media for setting unrealistic beauty standards. although that is not entirely false, no one is demanding you to look like a model but you can make an effort to take care of yourself. you don't have to go to the gym 8 hours a day but at least go out for a walk every now and then and dial down on fried foods and sugars. and you can hate me for this but this is my preference: i do not find obesity attractive and i find it wrong that this whole body-positive movement gets a kick out of shaming others for not wanting to date outside of their preference. i am free to choose who i want to be with and you cannot shame me for that. will i ever disrespect/mock you for being overweight? no. but would i find you attractive and consider dating you? the answer is also no.
u I think it represents an implosion of the left. First, they want to control what we can eat and drink so we can all meet their standards of health and fitness, and it is so important that our individual liberties should be infringed.
Then they tell us that there is nothing wrong with being a fat slob.
The left has never been known for consistency in its positions so this is not a surprise but. . .
LEFTISTS OF THE WORLD: If it is okay to be a fat slob, then please stop trying to interfere with my right to buy a 32 ounce or larger fountain drink.
I believe it's a wonderful movement. There are people who are of all different shapes and sizes and are equally beautiful. One thing to keep in kind is a lot of people who are struggling with their weight to an unhealthy point are allowed to try and love their body. I had a friend who was morbidly obese (300lbs and only 5ft tall) and she struggled with loving herself and turned to food to cope. When other people of different shapes and sizes became more inclusive she was able to learn to love herself even though she was struggling and learn to take care of her body. Now she's not stick thin, but looks more like the beautifully curvy black girl on the left of that photo in terms of body shape. She is also a powerhouse in the gym and is vegan, and has been that body size for awhile now. And look at olympic athletes! There's a buzzfeed video that featured female athletes modelling lingerie and showed that even with working out and being in peak physical condition they aren't "perfect" because they work out for performance and not looks.
I think it's nice that not only a certain type of body is seen as attractive anymore, if it ever has been. But what I can't get with is the praising of unhealthy body flab, especially if it prevents you from walking or functioning or if you have to purchase two seats on an airplane. If you look oversized and jiggly, if you're shapeless, if you can't breathe well if you walk... those are all indicators that something is not right.
Almost all of these models shown here who are deemed "revolutionary" for their size are still conventionally pretty in any other way. They have extremely good proportions, all they are is overweight.
I also can't get with "skinny" bashing, which has taken great upswing since the body acceptance movement has taken momentum. It's always suspicious to me if you have to put down one thing to elevate another.
Body positivity is not only about weight. It's about other things too- the pressure to shave, use girly clothes, to not have cellulite and stretch marks etc. And I think it's great thing.
About body positivity related to weight- a healthy weight is good thing but if someone is not at their healthy weight, teaching them to hate their bodies is not the way to go. They should love their body and should try to improve themselves for a healthier life and not due to pressure to fit in the beauty standards.
It’s trying to sweep the obesity epidemic under the rug like it’s not a problem and like it doesn’t matter if you’re severely overweight so I’m not on board with it.
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I hope all women learn to not give a damn what anyone thinks about their body.
Nods that's nice ALL females do what now? I never got the MEMO ok glad I never do XD looks in the mirror wait I own a mirror big enough? Apparently I do lol oh look my figure thanks as it proves I have a VAGJ I don't care what someone else thinks I care am I hilted right? yep do I get a cycle? yep ok clothes I like to wear they fit? yep I'm not overweight? Nope nor underwieght nope ok this is a body I own it you don't like it "hails... bye" I don't fit in with my crowd of "do I look fat in this?" Why? Men raised me XD
Gigantic bullshit. It's just making people who are fat thinking they're as beautiful as anyone else, thus encouraging them to stay fat and don't try to get better. Which is wrong.
Being fat isn't beautiful. It's unhealthy, it's ugly. Not only it's bad for yourself, but it's bad for the others. It's bad for your family, your friends, who see you getting more and more fat and ugly, and will probably see you die early. It's bad for the society as a whole, since your state will probably cost a lot in healthcare, paid by taxpayers.
Being fat has no good side. There is litteraly no reason to not change it, unless you're a lazy blob. Which is the real base of that "body positivity" crap. People claim that "everyone is beautiful" so they won't have to try to change. Ugly people can't change, disabled people can't change. Fat people can.
I Honestly couldn't care less about that, But if any fat woman comes to me and start bragging that she's worth it and attractive, if i tell her that she's fat and not attractive, Because she asked me, i would still tell her that she's a plain FAT ASS to me. I fucking hate when some women are plain fat, and dont want to loose weight, and when they ask someone that they are attractive or not, and then someone tells them that they are fat and not attractive, they start bragging and try to convince them that they are attractive, NO ! YOU ARE PLAIN LAZY FAT ASS, Either go loose your weight or dont ask anyone about your body, Because im not gonna sugar coat my opinion. Period!!!
omfg. Lets divide this question in two, can we?
There are things u can't change with grit and effort, thats something u need to be able to accelt and be haply with. Any help on that is of good intent, thumbs up.
But things U can change but u dont because ur simply lazy weak etc... then forcing everyone to love U the way u are just because its you also... no, thats just ridiculous..
now imagine a man with 2ms long belly fat, bald, livin with his mom when he's 40, and bein a plumber. With a sign "Take me as I am". I gonna write my script based on that (= the 51th shade of grey) 😆
I agree with the idea that people should be able to love themselves in the body that have. I'll never not agree with something that promotes self love. I could wake up tomorrow in my dream body and I would still 100% be about body positivity.
Fat is not beautiful. I have no problem with promoting self love, that's something just about every one of us could us but when you're telling people being obese is attractive and okay, that's ridiculous. It's not attractive and it is no where okay. It's very unhealthy and you're killing yourself slowly.
If it were really just that--a body positivity movement--I'd be all for it.
However, when it comes to quite literally anything associated with the movement, the message of self-acceptance is never without the subtle undertone that body type standards of any kind in the context of romantic relationships are inherently wrong.
When one sympathizes with such a sentiment, one ultimately suggests that men have no bodily autonomy--that they owe sex and/or romantic committment to whoever desires it.
I think it goes without saying that that line of thinking is quite dangerous.
Women have it so hard in life. Everything is such a struggle for them. If they want to band together and help each other feel better about being fat and sloppy, let them. Women should feel absolutely no pressure to look good (as in, "doesn't look like she'd die from walking up two flights of stairs" good). Every woman should be able to look in the mirror and say "I'm perfect".
Of course, all that isn't gonna help them find a relationship, but whatever makes them feel better AT THE MOMENT is what's important, right? Pressure to be in shape and good looking? That shit's for men.
I think body positivity is great, don't get me wrong. But encouraging overweight people to stay the way they are instead of create a better and healthier life for themselves disgusts me. My job is literally to help people create a better version of themselves, and become healthier, so when there are movements to encourage people to stay or become obese because they're "beautiful just the way they are and fuck anyone who says otherwise", I think that's incredibly wrong.
Idc, I find these campaigns kinda fake
I admire women who are comfortable with their body since I am not really
its okey not to like something in your body because nobody have the perfect body and I can't accept the idea of "perfect"body, because its not perfect and that is okey
All that positivity is too much in my opinion but many some women need it more
There's being secure with yourself then there's loving yourself.
Loving yourself is for narcissists. The point is not to feel good about whatever you see in the mirror, the point is to not need the mirror.
No, not all bodies are beautiful, all bodies are just bodies. Individuals decide what they find beautiful, you don't get to decide for other people what they consider beautiful. It's just a nonsensical endeavor.
When I say you're fat and I don't find you attractive then that belongs to me, that's my thought, my feeling and you can't take that from me no matter how many "I wouldn't want you anyways, I love myself" there are.
I like that being curvy is more accepted than it was in the past. What I don't like, however, is that they give praise to people who are obese. There's a difference between curvy, thick, and obese. And the BPM kind of praises and protects people who are extremely hurting themselves and who don't want to change.
It's cool that people appreciate bodies come in all shapes and sizes. Would love and support a male body positivity movement. In my experience, I haven't seen it encouraging a healthy or obsese lifestyle which is probably why I think this way. Just the fact that some people are plumper or rounder naturally and some like me are skinner - people don't come from one cookie cutter
I think as long as a woman feels healthy and happy they should be confident. No one should feel like they have to look a certain way to be accepted. It will take a long time for the damage done by our society's standards for beauty to stop causing woman to struggle with this though.
I'm all for body positivity and being happy/confident in your body.. but there's a difference between healthy and unhealthy, e. g being hugely over weight or hugely underweight, but I guess if your happy in yourself then there's nothing anyone can do!
I disagree with any form of unearned confidence based on self deception.
You can accept the fact that you're overweight, but don't try and call it anything other than accepting the fact that you're overweight. Don't get me wrong, you should like yourself, but you also shouldn't kid yourself.
I was fat, I lost the fat. I feel better as a result, and have something to show for it.
It depends on what is being celebrated and promoted. If the movement is celebrating normal, healthy bodies (those that everyday girls and women have that aren't air-brushed or photoshopped) then I think that's a good thing. But if they're including morbidly obese people in that movement I think they're misguided. I do think it's a good and healthy thing to celebrate how women really look in real life, with the variety of normal body types and things like breast size, height, and body type.
I dislike it! I think it's unintentionally convincing women that it's okay to be unhealthy, and setting unrealistic expectations that men will find anyone appealing. I think we need to be encouraging healthy lifestyles by changing our cultural approach to daily life.
It's bullshit, if you ask me. Yes, inner beauty matters, but you can't expect me to respect someone who overeats and doesn't exercise.
A little body fat doesn't hurt, frankly speaking, but there's a difference between being normal and being morbidly obese.
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