It should be an automatic 20 year prison sentence for any government to interfer with a parents rights over their children. There may be a few bad parents but natural selection keeps their numbers low. Parents have always have been and alway will be the best protectors of children and far better than any government agency. Governments don't love children but parents do.
@JSG4_ That probably doesn't have any measurable effect on overpopulation. However, if defective parents kill their children, it's a dead end. They don't pass on their defective genes. The ultimate effect of saving children from defective parents, assuming that was possible, it to populate the world with defective genes; i. e., defective parents.
Yes, they should. We live in a nation where you are free to exercise your religious beliefs and that includes medical practices. Besides, all you need is for a hospital to inject infected blood into a Jehovah's Witness and then they'll get the shit sued out of them.
I think it depends. For example, JW's have long refused blood transfusions. That to me is crazy, yet in the early days of AIDS it might have prevented HIV transmissions. There is also the pendulum between governmental protection and governmental totalitarianism. It really boils down to the facts of the specific case.
Religion is a life style... and the belief must be shareable if it threatens a innocent life.
And by saying that... everybody has their place.. so is the child in question... the child must be given the opportunity to choose for themselves... Until they attain that maturity the parents has to make sure that the life they created stay awake.
Should be heavily fined for negligence. Once. Twice, they should be jailed for harming a child under their supervision and have a psychological evaluation
Eventually take away their story books if it comes to that
Some people take religion too literally. If you believe god will provide that's fine, but it's also said that god acts indirectly upon the world. So doctors and modern medicine would be a part of that, so refusing a doctor's help doesn't make any sense to me.
They shouldn’t One thing Happened Here a Sten Tribe was refusing to go to the clinic for her child’s medical. The mother was Giving the child wrong medicine mean while the child was suffering from malaria. The child died in hospital after the condition went worse
A parents authority should always supercede that of the state when it comes to children, and to those who don’t understand this, think long and hard, who cares about the kid more? Doctors aren't always right and vaccines can have negative side effects
it is wrong for parents to not allow their child to get help based on their beliefs for it is not their bodies but the child's ! if the child needs help from a doctor or hospital then they should get it ! thanks
No. I resepct that you believe in something but this is not a matter of religion, it's a matter of science and facts. So hide your crosses, moons, talismans, necklases and magic rings from D&D, this is not your realm (so to say...).
The caretaker's beneficence trumps the parent's paternalism.
General rule: I believe in freedom of religion. However, if that belief infringes on the rights of someone else; i. e. the child's right to life, then that's where their paternalism ends.
No. Seriously no, they ain't gonna know more than a doctor, they likely don't spend recovery day learning and practicing medicine. Maybe get a second or third opinion do that but not do so because of belief.
If it’s something small they should have a say but if it’s something that could be fatal or very damaging to the child then they shouldn’t be allowed to refuse and risk their child’s life for any silly reason
No. I do not. Their children (at least children under the age of 11) are too young to give informed consent to refuse medical treatment. They should be treated against their parents’ wishes (and theirs, if necessary).
And where do the Christian Scientists get off calling themselves “scientists?” They’re about as scientific as drilling a hole in someone’s head to let the demons out.
Nope. Your beliefs should not lead to the endangerment and potential death of a child. I belief a child's right to health and life outweigh a parents religious right by far.
Governments always exploit well meaning laws, so I'm reluctant. I'll qualify "life threatening" medical issues as a threshold. Then NO. That doesn't mean vaccines unless there's a local epidemic
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It should be an automatic 20 year prison sentence for any government to interfer with a parents rights over their children. There may be a few bad parents but natural selection keeps their numbers low. Parents have always have been and alway will be the best protectors of children and far better than any government agency. Governments don't love children but parents do.
altho I do agree that if some sh1t parents k1ll their kids, there will be less overpopulation
@JSG4_ That probably doesn't have any measurable effect on overpopulation. However, if defective parents kill their children, it's a dead end. They don't pass on their defective genes. The ultimate effect of saving children from defective parents, assuming that was possible, it to populate the world with defective genes; i. e., defective parents.
"Parents have always have been and alway will be the best protectors of children " Cough, anti-vaxxers, cough.
Not to mention faith healers...
Yes, they should. We live in a nation where you are free to exercise your religious beliefs and that includes medical practices. Besides, all you need is for a hospital to inject infected blood into a Jehovah's Witness and then they'll get the shit sued out of them.
I think it depends. For example, JW's have long refused blood transfusions. That to me is crazy, yet in the early days of AIDS it might have prevented HIV transmissions. There is also the pendulum between governmental protection and governmental totalitarianism. It really boils down to the facts of the specific case.
Religion is a life style... and the belief must be shareable if it threatens a innocent life.
And by saying that... everybody has their place.. so is the child in question... the child must be given the opportunity to choose for themselves...
Until they attain that maturity the parents has to make sure that the life they created stay awake.
Should be heavily fined for negligence. Once. Twice, they should be jailed for harming a child under their supervision and have a psychological evaluation
Eventually take away their story books if it comes to that
Some people take religion too literally. If you believe god will provide that's fine, but it's also said that god acts indirectly upon the world. So doctors and modern medicine would be a part of that, so refusing a doctor's help doesn't make any sense to me.
They shouldn’t
One thing Happened Here a Sten
Tribe was refusing to go to the clinic for her child’s medical. The mother was Giving the child wrong medicine mean while the child was suffering from malaria. The child died in hospital after the condition went worse
A parents authority should always supercede that of the state when it comes to children, and to those who don’t understand this, think long and hard, who cares about the kid more? Doctors aren't always right and vaccines can have negative side effects
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Honestly they can, cuz the baby is for them so it is their own responsibilities.
It is up to them to decide.
it is wrong for parents to not allow their child to get help based on their beliefs for it is not their bodies but the child's ! if the child needs help from a doctor or hospital then they should get it ! thanks
No. I resepct that you believe in something but this is not a matter of religion, it's a matter of science and facts. So hide your crosses, moons, talismans, necklases and magic rings from D&D, this is not your realm (so to say...).
I think it's negligent. Similar to how people smoke around their kids at home or in cars should be considered child abuse.
Kill yourself, not innocent people.
The caretaker's beneficence trumps the parent's paternalism.
General rule: I believe in freedom of religion. However, if that belief infringes on the rights of someone else; i. e. the child's right to life, then that's where their paternalism ends.
No. Seriously no, they ain't gonna know more than a doctor, they likely don't spend recovery day learning and practicing medicine. Maybe get a second or third opinion do that but not do so because of belief.
Poor child having idiotic parents such as that. It should be considered child abused because that's exactly what it is
If it’s something small they should have a say but if it’s something that could be fatal or very damaging to the child then they shouldn’t be allowed to refuse and risk their child’s life for any silly reason
No. I do not. Their children (at least children under the age of 11) are too young to give informed consent to refuse medical treatment. They should be treated against their parents’ wishes (and theirs, if necessary).
And where do the Christian Scientists get off calling themselves “scientists?” They’re about as scientific as drilling a hole in someone’s head to let the demons out.
Nope. Your beliefs should not lead to the endangerment and potential death of a child. I belief a child's right to health and life outweigh a parents religious right by far.
Governments always exploit well meaning laws, so I'm reluctant. I'll qualify "life threatening" medical issues as a threshold. Then NO. That doesn't mean vaccines unless there's a local epidemic
Nope. They shouldn’t be forcing their beliefs on a kid that doesn’t get to choose potentially being able to live.
You can’t prove it’s “gods plan”