High amounts of muscle mass equate to high levels of testosterone which is the primary male sex hormone. Unless you're homosexual, or have a fetish, women who showcase masculine characteristics are deemed unattractive, and this stems from our biological makeup. The same applies in the reverse. Women aren't too attracted to feminine men.
Generally, when one deviates away from a biological or societal norm, they will be ridiculed and ostracized by the masses.
Granted, this isn't black & white. There is grey area. For instance, let's consider that the average testosterone levels for an adult male ranges from 300ng/dl to 1100 ng/dl. That's a wide range, right? Well for that reason, a man with 300ng/dl might be more attracted to a woman who has higher than average testosterone levels. That's typically how it goes.
Masculine and Feminine energy are the fundamentals of the typical dynamic in a relationship whether you're straight or homosexual. The dominant partner is almost always the one who possesses more testosterone. Feminine energy by nature is more nurturing rather than decisive authority. Women are this way because of their low levels of testosterone and high levels of estrogen.
The endocrine system is extremely interesting if you ever have to time to study up on it. But hopefully this answers your question.
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I see no problems, except if she is overly muscular. I like moderately muscular, athletic girls, who are fit and nicely toned.
Their loss. My goal is to be a fit, muscular woman and I'm proud of that! I lift weights 2-4 times a week. And not just little 3 or 5 pound dumbbells either: REAL, heavy weights. And work all my muscle groups: upper, lower body, and abs.
Everyone assumes if a woman is muscular, she's not "feminine" or looks masculine. There are plenty of women that lift weights and still look beautiful and feminine!!! As a matter of fact, it's been proven that women that lift and have muscle are more toned and have a more defined figure than women that don't lift.
This!!! šš»šš» People always assume that if a woman lifts weights sheās going to look masculine it look like a body builder. They donāt realize that for a woman to actually build that much muscle, supplements and extra hormones need to be thrown into the mix. Itās a myth that women who life weights will bulk. Not true! They will still tone and look beautiful and feminine.
@HayleyMarie Exactly!!! It is impossible for a woman to look like that unless she's taking hormones or supplements. We can build muscle, but if anything it accentuates our figures and makes us look MORE lean and fit.
I don't post pictures online, but I can assure y'all, my body transformed since I started lifting weights šŖ I'm lean, but have an athletic build, and apparently an hourglass figure as well.
Yeah, weights make you look "masculine"... that's hilarious.
Yeah but you're talking about lean muscle and fit women. He's talking about muscular women. Lifting weights is good for women too, but men don't like muscular women as in pictures he's posted.
There is nothing wrong with women being strong or muscular. They should feel proud of what they achieved with their hard work.
But, yes there is a "but", I am not obligated to find them attractive.
A toned girl is the best! A flat stomach is attractive. A six pack, to me, is not.
I am not afraid or intimidated by her I simply don't find her visible muscles appealing. On top of that if I think about touching her I will feel like I am touching a rock and again I don't like that.
I would not mind dating an mma champion. They don't have to be muscular only have to be fit. She would be able to kick my ass and I would date her. Intimidation really isn't the issue here
@Cynicaldreamer i can sense the passion from your tone. As long as you're happy, you'll shine with this goal of your's and you'll give out positve vibes when you're happy and feeling good.
@Cynicaldreamer I love sport, so to have a sporty girlfriend/partner is ideal, so to have a go at a partner for being too athletic/too sporty is counter productive. I want an equal not someone I dictate how they look, what they do!
I agree! I prefer a fit woman but not one who looks like she's on steroids. A lot of the pics seen online are taken while the woman is flexing, showing off her hard work and definition & normally just look physically fit. My only concern is that I'm not a gym rat & most women like that wouldn't e interested in me, but it's not that I feel inadequate because her muscles are bigger than mine. I'm just a realist. I'm not out of shape. I eat well & I'm very active. 6'3 215 lbs. I keep meaning to sign up at a gym but I work a lot right now trying to improve my retirement savings/investments because I didn't create a retirement plan till my late 30s. I refuse to use any kind of supliments besides protein shakes or bars. I have friends who use things that give them energy. Not roids but speed pills, I'm cool.
There's nothing wrong with women having muscles, there is limit though natural hormone level. It's true that natural hormones play a part in womens bodies but females can train moderately heavy/heavy too. The "high reps-light weight" nonsense should be forgotten. Bodybuilding with all the skin-tight muscularity is far from what it used to be back in 80's and 90's the size they're today is all drugs! Natural gym training women do not get that big. If you want to go to the gym and train, do it! One does not turn into a Hulk overnight 😁 it takes time and effort. Take a look at Jessica Biel in Stealth and Blade:Trinity, she did train and looked great;not a ripped fitnesscompetitor but a healthy woman with fatburning muscle, you have to remember that muscle burns fat. And as you get older 50s 60's 70s the more muscle you have, the better you function in later life. Think about that, do you want to be fit and moving in your 70's... take a look around you and how many fit elderly people you see around?
I know guys who love this body type and guys who don't like it. Some like skinny girls, some like thick girls, some love fat girls, some like muscular girls.
Everyone gets hate no matter what body type. Skinny girls get told "eat a burger", thick/fat girls "need to exercise and stop eating", muscular girls "need to be more feminine".
Its a double negative to most men. Not only do they look like men, but they can still be the crazy emotional girl while being strong enough to rip your dick off. No thanks
Lol notice how everyone who disliked your comment are male? Thereās another comment on here from a female stating that some men must be intimidated. ALL the guys jumped in to defend against that theory š
Who knows. Insecurities? Double standards? Afraid of a woman being stronger than them? Itās just a little hypocritical muscular men are looked at as strong and tough, then a muscular woman is too masculine and unattractive. That being said, every man has their own type. Iām sure there are men that like muscular women. If you donāt, thatās cool too. As long the womanās hard work on her body is appreciated just as much as a mans.
@HayleyMaria muscular women don't deserve the hate to be honest. They're normal women at the end of the day behind all that muscle. The beautiful thing is that they are mature enough to not let the negative remarks bother them and are happy doing what they do and that brings out the beauty and positive vibes from them.
@nodnol32 I agree! Like honestly I donāt want to be too muscular myself. Iām working to tone some more, but at the same time men and women have worked so hard to build that muscle that they deserve kudos. Now of course I think there can be such a thing as too much muscle, for both men and women, but hey. To each their own I suppose.
@HayleyMarie I agree that what they have achieved has merit. Of course it does. But muscles on women are like high heels on men. Both can be have them but it only really fits to one gender.
@HayleyMarie good luck in terms of getting toned. I'm looking to achieve that too. They absolutely deserve the kudos. It just annoys me to the core of the negativity they face from third parties. Its not much different from what my girlfriend has gone through, she's a very tall women who is athletic with some muscle tone. Seems like any woman different from what is seen as 'normal' will be subject to negativity from third parties and thats just awful.
@nodnol32 Thanks! Iām a lot more toned than I was 2 years ago, but Iām still working on it. The pandemic has slowed things down a little. I workout from home but I miss having access to a full gym. Yeah I get that. Iām not super tall but I have broad shoulders. I used to feel less feminine than other women I know but Iāve learned to appreciate the shape Iāve got.
@HayleyMarie How is that double standards? If a woman does not like high heels on a man, fine. She has every right to. Just like a man has every right to not like to see muscles on a woman. Right? No matter how you look at it, both are things that just are more suited for the other gender. Sure some women might like men in heels and some men girls with muscles, but they will never be the majority.
@ThisIsMyOpinion ok maybe I shouldnāt say double standard. I should say itās more along the lines of gender roles. They may not be in the majority but to say that one is more suited to the other gender just makes it sound a little closed minded. If a woman wants to be muscular, she should not face judgement. And if a man wants to wear heels, same deal.
@HayleyMarie I agree with half of what you said. No one should face prejudice or be looked at in a bad way for having muscles, in women's case, or wear heels, in men's case. People should be free to do whatever they want with their lives. However I do feel like both things do suit one gender better than the other. Does that makes me an asshole?
@ThisIsMyOpinion I would only call you an asshole if you made a verbal judgement towards either party (like told a muscular woman she was unattractive etc) But for just having the opinion? Of course not. Everyoneās entitled to their opinions.
@HayleyMarie I don't just treat people I am attracted to with respect. Even if I am not attracted to them I would never shame them for having muscles. If anything I would praise them. I know how hard it is to grow muscles and I have testosterone to help me!
A muscular woman isn't a problem. A that is lean to the point where you wouldn't be able to tell she is a woman if she didn't have a vagina, that's a problem.
Celeste Bonin. In tremendous shape, plenty of muscle, more than you would expect to see on most fit women, and she still looks feminine and very attractive.
This is NOt attractive. It's pretty repulsive. As a person, I don't care. If that's what makes you happy go for it but to me, that is not the slightest bit attractive.
It's all about preference. Some idiots here would say "Oh because they are insecure". If that's the case, then I would be a racist because I don't feel attracted to women from a certain type of race. Only the truth is, it has nothing to do with insecurity, but all with preference. Some men like really muscular women, other men (most of them) like more girly feminine women. I like a little bit of muscle on a girl that shows she is in shape, but not the point where she starting to look jacked (like the 1st and 2nd picture).
The real reason in my opinion is the women its the people that make the derogatory remarks. That is society in general. Men are to look like Greek Gods & Roman warriors, while the females are to be helpless with full plump breast & gluteus last but not least soft ivory skin. Every one wants bodies like this but not everyone is will to put the dedication in to achieve that physique. Men in general feel offended but a woman that has a better body then he does. I've dated a few women that had & still have Greek Goddess body to this day. I think women that look like this are GORGEOUS & most dedicated loyal & faithful to their men.
In order to look like one of those "women", you have to use steroids and/or other enhancing substances, and we all know what kind of damage they can cause to a body.
Furthermore, I often read the word "sexy" associated to a body.
Does everything in people's mind have to revolve solely around sex? We live in a sick society with an even sicker mentality.
But finally, those "women" do whatever they want with their bodies as long as I am not subjected to them. It is their prerogative to live a fit, albeit a healrhy life.
Let's see their bodies in 50 years from now, provided they live that long...
Of all those women in those examples only the first one looks somewhat suspicious of juicing. The last two could of gotten that way though hard training and a very strict diet. I was a professional athlete and I know what steroid muscle looks like.
One pound of muscle burns 50 calories and a pound of fat burns 7. Women who lift weights almost always look better than women who just starve themselves or do cardio nonstop. It also given keeps them leaner and attractive as they age. The muscle done boosts their basal metabolism.
The vast majority of women will not explode and bulk up from just lifting weights. It requires a certain level of testosterone to do that. Literally only 1 out off 10000 have naturally high testosterone levels for that to happen.
As for steroids, yes that can be very bad (but it does make women extremely horny... just saying.). But very low doses of it is actually safer than taking an aspirin. But most people donāt know the right way to do that so I agree to stay clear of it.
"Insecure insecure insecure" "He's just intimidated" "He just can't handle a strong woman"
Really? If a guy can't get a date with a woman, is it because they're intimidated by him, and can't handle him? Or is it just because he's not attractive?
When he tells himself that it's because he's too nice, is that true? Or is that more of a cope, a way to avoid admitting that he's just not attractive?
I don't even have a problem with women lifting. I think it's a good thing as long as they aren't taking steroids.
I completely agree. It's as if guys aren't allowed to have preferences about what they find attractive and we have to be shamed into accepting something that we're not attracted to. Then we're the ones who are called insecure. It's ironic and laughable.
Meh, I don't care about what I'm allowed to do. I don't have to do anything. As a wife man named Captain Jack Sparrow once said, there are only two rules that matter: what a man can do, and what he can't. If I can find a woman who fits my preferences, it doesn't matter that other women don't like them, at all.
I donāt think thereās anything wrong with it and these women are taking very good care of their bodies and health.. I think itās just personal preference on who men and women find attractive.. for me I donāt find muscly men attractive but thatās just my opinion..
No problem with it... but the human mind sees a man.. when introduced to muscular builds. DO A SHADOW TEST... when given just a blank black image of a man and woman side by side.. there is no question... do same test with muscular man and woman side by side with same style hair... the mind dode not become attracted to either one when you are told one is a woman... men are hardwired in the brain to like feminen women... That being said... NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A MUSCULAR WOMAN... LONG AS YOU DONT TAKE IT TOO FAR.. otherwise we just see you as a slightly more pretty dude..
Because they can't achiev it them selves 🤣🤣 so they start hating. Haters are best motivation, then comes those who skips leg day in second place. These women are BEASTS ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø💪💪💪
For the same reason why they ridicule women who are overweight, or have a different hair do, etc. People judge relentlessly because they are bullies. That's how it goes. They take out their transgressions on other people because they're too insecure to do anything to make themselves better.
A lot of rotten people in this world. Don't pay them any mind.
I much rather bang a buff chic than a very fat one. With muscle all you have to do is stop lifting to make it go away. Itās also a sign of hard work on her end. Being fat is the opposite.
It is slightly āfreakishā for women to look this way. But still better looking than BBWs. The girl in the second pic is way hot by the way.
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Many people view the look as too masculine. But if that is the case, that would mean men who don't have muscles look too femanine.
I love to see defined muscles on a women or man. I especially love the shape of bodybuilders. Their body looks sculpted. It's the epitome if perfection to me personally
I dont think there is a problem. They probably just face the same struggle as tall women. Where only tall guys are comfortable dating them but there only few guys taller then them. My guess is only guys who are really in shape are comfortable dating them but they are in better shape then most guys limiting there options
@kupkakes if on the other topic you get notifications of me talking to you and then do not see them don't be surprised. The opinion owner keeps deleating my comments. Most of them were me saying I just wanted to talk. Then we are the emotional ones...
I mean she is saying that because you guys are trying so hard to get your point across sheās just messing with you. Donāt let her get into your head just ignore her and move on xD
Thatās not a good trait to be proud of. Itās clearly affecting you what she does and youāre easily just letting you influence your behavior for no reason. Iāve dealt with people like her before and they get a kick out of making people mad.
I am annoying her as much. Even you are annoyed for having so much spam on your notifications. She will let my comment be or block me. This does not end another way.
How do you know? Itās easier to delete a comment than to copy paste a piece of text you have saved somewhere.
I usually just go on my own way and let the person reflect on what theyāve said. They usually do and donāt mean it. Theyāre here to troll and only to troll. Being stubborn will only make you feel worse. Just helping you out.
Iāve been there before so I get how it feels like you want to win at all costs. But sometimes theyāre more stubborn and you realize youāre just wasting your time
Thank you. For real =) But believe it or not I am a troll too and this genuinely is fun for me. xD It takes little to no effort for me to post it. Don't worry.
I know what you think, but it's not the best decision for me. Do you know that guy @akiro_lana or something? I have been arguing with him for months now on a single topic. It's still going! xD I know you find me weird but these kind of things are what keep me interested in this site.
You don't want to know. The conversation is about rape and he said at some point that women who did not get pregnant during a rape aren't really raped.
Yeah sure like badmouthing would help you be more factual. When it's easy for anyone to misconstrue what anyone said. I said "could be not raped" not "aren't raped" if you were listening properly. if she is not an idiot, she should balance and weigh which side is being honest rather than being credulous.
To each his own and beauty is in the eye of the beholder but, a muscular woman is like an effeminate male in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with that but it goes against the norm so you may find less people that find that attractive but that does not mean that it is not (just for a smaller percentage of people).
Nothing is wrong with it. Personally I prefer non comp fat percentage, but I find off season female bodybuilders can be really hot personally. Love naturally muscular backs, thighs and arms on a woman. It can be very feminine. And women can get very strong pound for pound.
Because they're not attractive to 99.99% of men. You keep coming on this page and posting pics of your wife, and mate, I'm not being rude, but a lot of the comments are not nice. Why do you think that is? It doesn't matter what other people think, if you two are happy, then that's all that counts. And there will be other people out there like you, on a FB group or something. You can't change what people find 'attractive' by asking them to like something just because you do.
@Quackthulu i am not a big fan of fake tits either. But the one in the middel was the best of all three.
@ThisIsMyOpinion that is respectable, i have nothing against women with muscles, but there is a point where it becomes to much. Girl 2 and 3 here are fine, number one is a little to much, but then again its up to each girl what they want
There is none in my opinion. I think an intermediate amount of muscle (2-3 years of efficient training unenhanced) looks incredible. But i'm an amateur bodybuilder, and so are the majority of my friends, male and female So my opinion may be unusual.
There is nothing wrong with it, people just have their preferences and opinions. Same happens with curvy or fat women or women that are too skinny. It's just that anything that goes to the extreme can be unhealthy, same applies to too much muscles.
If they look like that, then I don't think many people are ridiculing that.. But I mean a lot of muscular women have unnatural muscles.. And some look pretty weird with it.. I mean the close a woman looks to a man, the more people don't care for the look.. But if they still look feminine while havin a nice natural muscular shape then that's pretty nice..
I love Anllela Sagra, the girl in the 2nd photo. I took some of her training and it helped me a lot. To answer the question, some is good. However, past a certain point a woman starts to look too much like a man. If I wanted to date a man, I'd turn gay. There is nothing wrong with a woman being muscular if that makes her feel good, but it is unattractive to me as a date.
I don't mind a fit or toned woman like the 2nd or 3rd photo.
the 1st photo is in the middle area for me.
I am just not a fan of big bulky muscles on a woman. where it looks like she is on drugs or gym nut. who can lift third times or more her own body weight.
There is absolutely no problem with women being muscular. They have their own charm and can still be beautiful. Behind all that muscle they are normal women. I admire their dedication, patience and hard work when it comes to achieving such a physique. I respect them.
Too muscular for my taste. Men don't have any problem at all with fit women, none. Men don't like women who are too muscular as they look masculine. Second one is still fine but 3rd one is still too much for me, first one no.
Lean muscle is good, makes women look fit and toned. Being muscular is not. And nothing is going to change that.
There isn't a problem with it for me. Some people just think it's wrong and unattractive for a woman to be that muscular. Some of those people are probably just insecure.
If they expect it to attract men, on the other hand, that's an issue. In all fairness, most women who get like that seem to be doing it for other reasons that I don't care enough about to understand. But I swear some of them think guys should be immediately proposing to them for it.
I don't think it's a problem. I agree if you find it wrong that makes you sexist. But if a man says he's not attracted to that, that, doesn't make him sexist no more than a woman saying she's not attracted to blank guys.
Some toning and muscles is fine but historically speaking having very low body fat% was seen as a sign of infertility. The 2 ways a woman could have very low body fat% is by being anorexic or overly muscular.
Because its not natural. Same with overly muscular men.
It's vanity, or low self-esteem that makes them want to look this way. They think this look is "sexier". I don't.
I prefer a woman (or a man for that matter, though I am straight) to look NATURAL. You don't need a 6-pack, huge biceps, and a neck thicker than your head!
Of all the pictures you have posted i find them all very attractive. Though, the question would be that if they dont let their muscles get to their head in thinking that they need to "trade up" or find someone better because of what they have achieved. I think for most men, its wanting to see if these women can see past their mindset. I also undertand that men must have a certain level of fitness and health.
Okay, well. I don't have a problem with women that work out, and have muscle. But there is a point in time that there is such thing as too big of muscles. For me it's not just for women when being so buff to the point that they can fucking throw a mountain that's pretty gross, and disgusting, but it's with guys as well. There is such thing as too much muscle
I donāt think itās intimidation or that they looks manly. Itās more or less emasculating but itās not a guarantee. A man would want to be the breadwinner and the one who does all the heavy lifting and if she can do all of that already then whatās the point?
@thehotshotgirl hi, yes it was for you. Well you asked if they all looked beautiful. Many guys here in the comments said that they did not found muscular girls attractive. Fit girls yes. Muscular girls no.
Because evolutionary speaking, were not biologically hardwired to be attracted to them. I know there are exceptions. If your conclusions is "they're just insecure" then guess what? Don't girls generally don't wanna date feminine guys? I guess they're insecure they're more feminine than them if that's the case.
@kupkakes I'll just write it right here. From that insecure pink annon's comment. Because every time we write something logical, it gets deleted. And now it's a joke because she's offended? Lmao that's like one of the worst excuses ever to be butthurt.
Logical? Ok so you would be okay if I told you personally that women arenāt attracted to you because you seem more boyish than manly? Cuz you do. aiko. Whoops sorry not sorry. It s biologyš„“ right? I guess youāll die alone then?
According to your logic thatās how it works. š„“ what you said sounds logical in ya head but itās not actually logical.
Donāt get me wrong I understand what youāre trying to say. But it is based on a naturalistic fallacy. Look it up if you donāt believe me
@KupKakes You can speak for yourself and I donāt care if youāre not attracted to me. Who are you anyways? I never asked anyone if theyāre attracted to me and Iām not talking about myself here. But what Iām still saying still stands that boys date boys, girls date girls not specially mentioning anyone. So letās pretend no one really likes me because im ugly or whatever. Does that invalidate basic biology and the idea gender is not a social construct? qz.com/.../ And that is not a naturalistic fallacy because Im not saying guy shouldnāt date masculine women while using the scientific study of āgender is not a social constructā which is a naturalistic fallacy. And can you not read I said āI know there are exceptions.ā So read things properly next time.
Im not even saying that feminine guys are the only guys girls donāt wanna guys. There are assholes, scumbags, ugly, fat or etc that doesnāt fit their standards but thatās not what Im talking about.
And you think youāre actually being logical and you think what you said makes it automatically true? You can go on and prove it right now but why are you just saying words?
Also just because we don't wanna date muscular women, that doesn't mean it's a "problem" You have your own dating standards like tall men, must be rich, have abs, full head of hair and never mind the personality. You're entitled to your preferences.
@KupKakes It's no one's fault you bothered to be in this argument only to be "sick and annoyed" Wouldn't that be like what that pink annon said? "Being emotional" you're demonstrating it lol. Annoyed is an emotion
I don't ridicule them, but i also don't find them attractive. For me, they are WAY too masculine looking.
I don't care if other guys like them - that's your business, and I'm fine with it - but I'm under no obligation to find that attractive.
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To those saying men are intimidated by muscular women, that's like saying women who don't like effeminate men must be intimidated. In other words, it's nonsense. Muscularity is a masculine trait and women who are very muscular obviously appear as very masculine. They are just unattractive to men, that's all.
It isn't particularly attractive to me. I like more feminine figures. If a woman is just fit and healthy, that's okay for me. But muscular like a guy isn't appealing to me.
Honestly, nothing. If they are happy and healthy, that's all that matters. Some people find it attractive, others don't. Same goes for guys; some girls are attracted to muscular men, others not.
There is definitely no problem but sometimes the overexercise make there boobs equivalent to their abs and that might look quite strange but that is only one school of thought. So What you gonna do is show middle finger to those who hate any kind of girl whether skinny or muscular!! Hope it helps🙂
1) they no longer look like women. 2) they look more like men then women. If I wanted someone with muscles I would be gay. Women that have muscles are revolting.
Why? Because we already have men and they have a fun penis to play with. So if you are with a muscle-bound broad, you are basically having sex with a muscular man who doesn't have a peen. Just date men if you are into men. It's 2020.
It is unappealing from an aesthetic stand point, but whatever makes her happy I guess. I don't care much for what other people do with their own bodies, so long as they aren't hurting others in the process.
Naturally the human species is programmed to be like this. It was always the man who was to be more fit as they were hunters. If say it's just our feral Instincts. In our current age and time there is to be no problem with a woman's physique whether it is rather plump or shredded.
Nothing, unless it's way too much, like is she looks like a boy. The second and third girl you posted ^ up there are hot as hell. "Why do people keep on ridiculing fit muscular women?" Uhhh... they don't. What are you talking about
Well the top one look like a mix max character. Completely weird. The rest I have no issues with at all. To be honest big extreme muscles look bad on both genders. So this isn't a gender issue for me.
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