Of course people care! I do. I believe men face more challenges to be resilenced, vulnerable, and have their voice be heard because society had taught most men to "man up" and not show when they are "weak" or they are a "pussy" unfortunately. We need to promote more awareness for men mental health and struggles. It is depressing that there is a higher rate of men committing suicide. Even though reports of men getting sexual assault and rape is low, but it could possibly be that they are afraid to speak up and talk to anyone due to society's expectation and pressure. I think it's really disappointing that some people are still not mindful, empathetic, nor educated about the challenges men may face. I am sure there is a lot to it that I am not aware of, and that's why we all need to be well-informed about it. This is a really good question by the way!
Toxic masculinity deals with a lot of pressure men may encounter with the idea that they must be tough, not show emotions, not getting mental health treatment nor help from specialists, be antifeminity, getting harassment for not being "masculine" enough, and more. But all of these ideals are just negative effects that men have suffered to be more isolated, unable to connect, not getting the help they need/want, low self-esteem, not feeling accepted, and aggressive behaviors.
I care about it deeply. Every man I know has some mental health troubles - every man I know older than 45 has deep-seated emotional repression and has struggled with either numbness, addiction, or suicidal ideation.
I'm furious that mental health - and especially men's mental health - is seen as a non-priority. That figure in the graph of professionals to 100,000 men is horrifying.
There's so much that our men need help with, so much they deserve, and so much they can benefit from if only mental health weren't such a taboo for people to talk openly about.
One thing that does give me a lot of hope, though, is that the young men (I'm talking teens) of today have a much healthier grasp on mental health and their own mental and emotional well-being. My students in karate and my friends' kids show such maturity and compassion that it puts me and my generation to shame. And I love that.
I think when we have more young and diverse politicians in the mix, we'll see less money going to multi-billion dollar corps that don't need it and more money going to genuinely helpful causes like healthcare and mental health initiatives.
Not a chance... Told my ex that this year I was having some problems, mental and physical, some from just being isolated and being laid off due to covid, And she told me to be a man and no one cares about your feelings, But I need to bottle that shi* up, So the kids didn't see... But SHE sees a therapist for her mental health issues, so about a week later and tell her that I need to talk about something and that I'd like to "talk" to her for a change (because she never wants to talk), And instead said I don't care what you think grabbed the kids and left me... after 5 years, two kids,...
Go to my parents, son you need to realize that you need to compartmentalize that away... On and on...
So yeah, men's mental health is either marginalized or completely ignored. Whenever you see we're here about anything for mental health it's always focused solely on the female, their issues, their problems, and that the problem stem from males not females therefore males don't need the therapy They need to just accept things as they are...
The biggest challenge for men when it comes to mental health are:
1 a rebranding of natural male response to emotional distress as toxic (toxic masculinity is a shaming technique to try and force men into an unhealthy coping mechanism)
2 lack of mental health services for men.
3 lack of training of mental health professionals in the treating of men and the problems they face.
4 the social stigma that men face when faced with the need for mental health care.
5 the fact that men are often treated as broken women (again the toxic masculinity neritive) this idea that men need to emote in ways that are unnatural for our physiology, and ways that are natural are branded as wrong.
6 the lack of male only therapeutic spaces, men especially young men need other men to crrate natural healthy male bonding. Any attempt to create these spaces are quickly attacked as "sexist" and because they are exclusionary by nature are forced into coed spaces (saw this with the boy scouts, mens sheds, boys clubs, etc)
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I care, but in the end it's our responsibility. I've been going to psychologists & psychiatrists for almost 6 years now and I never felt ashamed about it. Saying you won't seek help because of societies expectations is not an excuse. Not asking for help when you need it is actual weakness. Taking care of yourself is the most basic responsibility of being a grown up, you have to do whatever it takes to do that.
It doesn't matter if you feel uncomfortable or you have some prejudice yourself against people who seek mental health treatment. At the end of the day you're neglecting yourself and your duty, not just to yourself but to us all. Because you're depriving us of the best version of yourself because of your own world view or embarrassment or whatever the reason may be. And this is your choice to do that, no matter how much pressure there is or you feel you still have a choice.
There were people who hid Jews in Nazi Germany even though there was "societal pressure" against that. So don't tell me this is impossible. Personally I've never had a negative reaction when people found out I go to a psychiatrist, at least not to my face :D. And even if I did, I know this is the right thing for me to do, so I couldn't care less.
In many ways our mental health situation is a luxury. Because in the past people were struggling to survive and they could barely cover their basic needs. They never had time to think about what would fulfill me? How is my past affecting my decision making and my relationships? What do I really want in life? These questions are a result of us as a society having become so good at covering our basic needs that now our minds can wander to deeper questions. I personally welcome this and enjoy that I can search for the right path for me in life and then do my best to try and walk it. And if someone can help me along my way why would I not accept it?
Of course not.
We live in a world where society actively tries to break an tear down men, shames us, painting us to be sexists, rapists, essentially the devil. We're told our being masculine, being us is toxic to society and the people around us.
We do the most dangerous and hazards jobs
We account for the highest percentage of workplace deaths
The highest suicide percentages
The highest depression percentages
The highest homeless population
No one says a thing about any of it among a whole host of other issues. We're told to just suck it up and deal with it.
You really think anyone cares about our mental health?
Of course we do. I have a grown son. I want him to be happy, well adjusted, financially sound, able to achieve what he wants to.
But I realize men apply different standards to themselves. Men don't want to appear weak. They don't want other men to know they're seeing a therapist or are having personal problems they can't solve.
If the above stats are true, 40% of them don't reveal they're having trouble to ANYONE and they suffer quietly. The suicide rates among men are astronomical compared to that of women.
I've told my son repeatedly if he EVER feels hopeless or suicidal to call me FIRST. If he can't call me, call a friend. He has good male friends.
He's been very open with me about being hurt by a girlfriend or a friend. We've had good discussions. So, all I can do is work with the young man closest to me and I think I've done OK. Life is worth living.
Nope, nobody cares. They should but they don't.
If they yell they're angry and in need of anger management.
If they don't express they're emotions then they're afraid of it.
The tone policing of men is stupid. So no, nobody gives a shit. Unfortunately.
I personally do care about both men's and women's issues.
Unfortunately from what I see, some people only bring up male issues when a topic of female issues is taking place, simply to shut down the topic. These people disappear when there's an actual discussion of men's issues.
Some of the hard issues men face is probably the pressure to be the provider, pressure to be wealthy. Societal expectations of being an alpha man. Their emotions and mental issues being ridiculed.
Toxic masculinity is just any fixed ideology of masculinity that prevents men from expressing themselves or doing what they want and deviation from this ideology is met with ridicule or hostility. Like a man always having to be physically strong or never being allowed to cry.
Everyone should care about mental health regardless of gender. If someone is searching for help then help them.
And also not trying to say these statistics are wrong but men are more violent/stronger so there suicidal attempts are more likely to be successful. Women actually try to commit suicide like 3 times more then men but are less successful at actually killing themselves. So in my opinion those type of statistics aren't proving anything about men having worse mental health. Mental health is a issue for both genders and everyone that needs help should seek it.
https://www.verywellmind.com/gender-differences-in-suicide-methods-1067508
This is just a article about how suicide is different between genders. It is pretty interesting at all the differences.
We do. I wish men could express how they feel cause a lot of time I see them lash out or break down, things that happen when you’ve been burying your emotions for a while. If we know what’s going on a lot of times we’d be able to actually help. We won’t wonder where it’s coming from because you would’ve communicated it all with us. And we wouldn’t dismiss you cause you’re overwhelming us because again, your glass won’t suddenly get full. Communicate, I promise we don’t see men that talk about how they feel as less masculine. In fact it’s the exact opposite.
If toxic masculinity is a thing then why do we hardly ever hear about toxic femininity? If there's one then the opposite extreme has to exist... right?
Personally, I'm not so concerned about connecting toxicity to masculine or feminine behaviors.
I think guys aren't allowed to show emotions. They're expected to deal with things on their own.
People like to criticize the patient for not getting treatment. At least in the USA, you basically have to be rich to pay for a Therapist, Psychiatrist, medication, etc., Although some support groups are free.
I believe Bill Burr said it best: When something bad happens to a woman, they have support groups, hotline numbers, even little ribbons NFL players wear to show support. People actually give a shit. Whenever something bad happens to a guy, people just laugh at them, think its funny.
So that being said, you wonder why a lot of men have such poor mental health know that this is a good place to start looking.
No its bullshit. The whole stop toxic masculinity and let out your emotions is what is making men have mental issues. It always has been.
For example: how many school shooters were done by alpha football star jock guys with girlfriends? None. How many were loser dork weaklings nobody liked? They didn't like anyone so much they wanted to shoot them all.
So the obvious answer is to make the boys fit into society. Being proud to be a wimp everyone makes fun of is not how to stop this. Why not just teach them how to be men? So obvious. But instead now they say wear a dress if you want, fuck dudes if you want, cry if you want. This is only going to make it harder to fit in not easier.
Everyone here is just writing they do care just to take the moral high ground.
But in reality they most probably don't give a shit about mental health of the men that are close to them
Writing something sweet on the internet and actually caring in real life are two very different things. You actions often betray your words
If men go to see a doctor about a 'mental health' problem are usually told to 'get a grip' or pull yourself together unless they are showing overt symptoms,
Toxic Masculinity is a Myth; the feminists have taken traditional masculinity and declared it toxic masculinity: There is nothing toxic about good manners, working hard, providing for one’s family, winning at sports, or being loyal to friends etc and labelling them as ‘Toxic’. There’s nothing toxic about wanting to be respected. All humans want to feel respected—we all want to know we are valued, recognized, and affirmed.
If you don’t fit in ‘the man box’ that modern society has as formed by feminists, you pay the price. At best, you risk invisibility. At worst, you risk disrespect, bullying, or even violence at the hands of the ‘white knights’.
I do not know about others but I do care about this subject B cos those of us who have - husbands , boyfriends or brothers - need to concern ourselves with - mens mental health - for we have to deal with these men every day and need to know that their mental health is ok ! thanks
Lets talk about mental health in general instead of just for men. Short answer no. I have really bad anxiety. Especially when it comes to presenting in front of class. I can’t do it. And if I did get through it, my OCD would make me think like a perfectionist and I start looking for what I did wrong which eventually leads to dark thoughts. I told my counselor that I have public speech anxiety and she goes oh you’re shy? During COVID is when people started to care about it. So you can say it was kind of a blessing in disguise. Stupid people thanking medical workers. Like why wasn’t this movement happening before. They are always on the frontline. It just took COVID for the common retard to realize it.
Some do some dont. You'll always have people for and agianst.
And sadly, a lot of men dont cafe about male mental health its typically women trying to get them to open up and they dont want to, becauseemen put the stigma that men have to be strong mentally, and all that jazz, due to a long history of men being called to war ag any given notice
No one cares. It's lip service and virtue signaling.
If anyone actually cared, there would be more men's shelters, therapy that actually helps and groups that advocate for men wouldn't have their conferences shut down, or called sexist incel misogynists.
Men are also the majority of violent crime victims, but I have yet to see a poster about it because there's plenty of those when it comes to violence against women.
So no, no one cares. Men are expendable
Try talking about the things that affect your mental health other than crying. You know, actually expressing your feelings about your problems. You’ll see how quickly they tell you to stop whining and mock you.
There’s a reason MRAs aren’t taken seriously. It’s not because they’re all misogynists, many of the issues they care about are things which feminists don’t, but men do. Men’s real issues, the things that cause us mental health problems, are always downplayed. Always.
I don't go around thinking about women's mental health so obviously i don't think men's mental health. If anyone has issues, regardles of the gender, they should seek help or vent it all out to their close ones
Society in general and women in particular do not care.
For men to begin to understand the environment in which they are operating they must recognise that they are despised and seen as disposable utilities, at best.
The levers of power are controlled by Feminists and other Communists, who want us dead.
Go your own way. Let it all burn to the ground. You owe them nothing and they deserve to die in the flames of the fire that they lit.
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