What are your thoughts on combining weight lifting and cardio?

[D_Bone_Steak]

So I already do both. Weight lifting in the morning on a push/pull/legs split... and then basic bitch zone 2 cardio on the treadmill (3.5 MPH with an incline of about 14% for 1 hour).

I'm thinking about just adding the cardio to the end of my weightlifting to get it over with and stop having to take so many showers all day.

I'm starting to think all the online gurus that worry about over-training and loss of gains are just some pussies. At most it's only 2.5 hours of physical movement, and I've done way worse when I was in the military. Is it really a bad idea... or are the online gurus just a bunch of pussies?

[Gym_Bro]

3.5mph cardio isn't bad enough to totally sodomize your gains as long as you keep protein available to the muscle. An hour of 7mph after a weight busting session would definitely though especially if you're not eating in between. But it also matters whether you're on gear or not. You know cortisol is what breaks muscle down, and roids block the glucocorticoid action. When your cortisol rises badly you'll know by reduced bonertime and being angered more easily. Obviously the strictly hormonal issue of excess caedio isn't there with steroids, but you still have the energy balance and lack of amino acids floating around. You'll need a fuck ton more food when doing cardio if you're trying to gain weight, and that's major obstacle for many.

But what some studies also showed, i don't jerk enough around to know whether they had bias or anything, but some concluded that cardio should be done before lifting to maximize gains. Might be hormonal. Definitely remember studies showing that cold water immersion (at least in one study feet and hands) before exercise increases testosterone, but if done after exercise then T decreases. Even if you take exogenous hormones, it's known that the beneficial inflammation after exercise is blunted by cold. You'd want to incorporate cold especially if you're steroid free and trying to burn fat. Since it has to be done before exercise, you may also use the cardio to warm back up before doing the lifts. Cold, then cardio, then lift, especially if you do it in early morning, a thorough warmup is believed to prevent injuries (and more blood flow = more effective exercise?) Otherwise if you choose to cardio after lifts, be sure to eat some shit or drink boob juice after lifting unless your main goal is losing weight (even then you want to avoid protein deficiency), it's going to have an effect on how much muscle you gain.

[D_Bone_Steak]

It's like you were reading my mind. I currently plan on 1 serving of whey, 1 of casein, a handful of mixed berries and bananas, blended up with some lactose-free milk... and this is what I'll sip on as soon as I start the old man power walking uphill. Eating before the workout and after my shower are going to be a thing as well.

I've done this before but it was cardio before weights... it got me pretty damn shredded and muscled out pretty fast. Difference was I was doing cardio before weights. The logic the internet gives is that I'd be too burned out to do weights... but by doing it, it's like it energized me to hit the weights even harder. Could be because 30-minutes of cardio was just a micro dose of cardio compared to all the running my work made me do at the time. I am going to warm-up for 15-minutes on cardio also.

No gear for me though. Not being a wage-slave for 8+ hours a day is probably my secret. This is my job... working out and then getting my dick sucked. It's a pretty sweet job.

[Finchie40]

That sounds fine to me , I usually lift weights and then jump on the treadmill to keep my heart and blood flowing for like 30 to 40 minutes after I lifted , so do what you feel is best for you , You don’t need to workout for 2 hours a day , unless you want to be a huge bodybuilder and dedicate your life to working out and eating clean constantly. Me personally doesn’t have any desire to get that muscular , I just like to stay trim with a little bit of muscle , so I don’t kill myself when I am working out. Every time I pushed myself to extreme I eventually get injured or I throw in the towel and say fuck this. When I learned to pace myself and stuck with a steady routine , without killing myself , I had amazing results , I know most people want to shed weight and build muscle as fast as they can , and sadly that’s the wrong way to exercise because you are more than likely going to fail , if you push yourself that much , slow works the best , because you aren’t really killing yourself , yes the results might take longer and slower to achieve , but at least it’s easier to stick with, I don’t have time or desire to workout for 2 hours a day , I am satisfied with 45 minutes to an hour , our bodies need time to rebuild itself , why rest days are important. People that go full extreme usually end up hurting themselves or eventually end up in the hospital because they think they were kicking ass , they are only kicking themselves in the ass , when they realize they can no longer lift anymore because they are injured. I have witnessed and experienced injuries happening from working out and hopefully you can recover from it , because some people do not recover 100 percent.

[D_Bone_Steak]

The good news in my case, I've been doing weight lifting and cardio at different time periods of the day for years already on most days. Micro-weights has been a game changer with the weights because I no longer have to make a 10lbs jump in the weight with dumbbells and the progressive overload feels like nothing has changed with only 1.5lbs increases per limb... basically no DOMS. Plus the 3-day split, plenty of recovery for 1 muscle despite no real days off.

I'm just getting lazy with the extra showers and keeping certain time periods free for the grind at two different time periods of the day. If I knock it all out in one go, less showers... less timing my eating around it... less bullshit I have to deal with from my wife. Just one and done in the 45-60min. of weights and 1 hour of speed walking.

Basically if I stick to how I laid it out for @gym_bro , I think I can physically handle it with more ease than the average person the internet gurus are talking to. I think I'm going to try it for a few months and I'm either going to find a key to my own personal success or fuck around and find out why the internet gurus are so worried.

[CindyRuns]

I'm a big believer in doing both... I run almost daily and hit the gym to lift 3 or so days a week.

[D_Bone_Steak]

What about doing both at the same time? Lift and then cardio right after...

[CindyRuns]

I generally only have an hour to spend at the gym, including going to/from home. A decent cardio workout takes me 30-45 minutes, so, it's hard to squeeze both in.

That said, nothing wrong with doing both in one visit !!!

[D_Bone_Steak]

I feel your pain. I have a gym at home, so I don't have all that extra stuff to worry about. Treadmill in my bedroom.

[CindyRuns]

In my case, I don't want to be away from my family too much in the evening !!!

[D_Bone_Steak]

Main reason I started building a at home gym. Stay-at-home-dad situation. Because the kids were little... I was basically on call at all times. It started with a bench and a squat/bench rack. Progressed. I probably will not work again in my lifetime, but at least I have pretty much everything the average gym has.

[SotiCoto]

My thoughts? Pointless gymcel nonsense.
There are plenty of more practical ways to get exercise without involving the effort-wasting contraptions of a gym. In fact you could get paid for manual labour instead of spending your money for the supposed privilege of working.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I respect your opinion... Some people shouldn't waste their time and just enjoy life with their own talents. I refute it being gymcel though unless I was trying to sell it to teenagers on how to get laid. I'm def not some Andrew Tate... who I'm pretty sure would lose an arm wrestling match with me.

I like your ideas though, practical usage of such labor instead of just doing it just to do it.

[SotiCoto]

I remember a long time ago I was watching something about old prisons and there was one with this crank. Just a handle and a box. The only thing turning the crank does is make a number go up. The prisoners had to turn the crank a certain number of times every day. That was it. It didn't achieve anything. The punishment was making them do something completely pointless for ages.
And when I saw it my immediate thought was: "That is just a gym. That is what a gym is."

Y'know what... I think there is a real opportunity in just replacing gyms with helping old people. Like just carrying them around, getting their shopping home, etc. Like you'd still be getting all the lifting and other exercise, but serving a productive purpose.

[D_Bone_Steak]

For me personally, because of some neighborhoods I had to live in, it's just a safety issue. The average thug isn't going to target the guy who looks like he'll knock his head off. Not so much of a problem where I just moved to... These people are rich. Military family so sometimes it's in a good place like this one, other times it's not.

Secondarily I'd be a straight-up liar if I didn't admit I've enjoyed the pussy it's gotten me... and that ties in with my general health as well.

[JTinSC1981]

How did you get a real picture of a 4chan jannie?

[D_Bone_Steak]

😂 🤣

[Sonorous]

Intense cardio? It really depends on individual circumstance & goals. Low impact & low stress cardio? Always great to pair with strength training.

[exitseven]

That is pretty much what I do.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Good on you my man. You're doing fine with it?, because I'm about to join you.

[exitseven]

I do a 50 minute HIIT cardio workout and another 45 minutes of of weight training. I do to body parts usually and do supersets.

[jahaims]

Obviously healthy for you