I don't see why men run from this. I would be happy to be a man and have a wife like this.
Why are men so afraid of marriage?
I don't see why men run from this. I would be happy to be a man and have a wife like this.
I already have food and clean clothes. Washing my clothes every week takes me a total of maybe 15 or 20 minutes. Cooking usually takes me anywhere from 5 minutes to 20 minutes per meal. That is not a benefit gained through marriage.
While filing jointly doubles your potential deduction, you also have to take on her income which can push you into a higher tax bracket. You might see slight tax savings if you marry a girl in a dead end job that makes next to nothing, but the burden of taking care of a person like that is far more costly than a small increase in deductions which can easily be achieved in many other ways.
As to kids, they can be great but the pain of children isn't child birth, it's raising them to be good people that can take care of themselves when you are gone. They take a lot of work and no matter how well you do at it, there will be times of disappointment and anguish. They will be trying to grow up to be their own person and will make mistakes. Women don't do most of the child care. Men have a major influence on their children.
Married people do not get sex whenever they want. You're delusional.
There are good reasons to marry the right woman, but nothing on your list comes close to those things.
5 minutes? what are you making boxed dinners? yuck!!! It takes me that much time to chop the fresh vegetables. Maybe my relationship is just different. lol "Men don't do most of the child care"... lol i guess your culture is different because in my culture 75% of women are single moms with dead beat dads. So yes in my community women do most the work.
20 minutes to do laundry? Did you skip the stain prep, sorting, drying, and folding stages? I don't know what kind of laundry you are doing but doing my laundry takes much longer than 20 minutes. Yes i know the reasons to marry... i am just listing some of the benefits of marriage. Sorry your life sucks, but my guy has it made in the shade and he knows it.
i also have to disagree with you on the financial benefits of marriage. Again in my community, people having too many kids out of wedlock is the main reason why so many people are on welfare and struggling. Keeping the family unit intact, improves the economic status of the community. You are more likely to provide a stable nice home for children if both partners are working good jobs and contributing versus one partner struggling on their own. Keeping families together is always better for the economy.
again i am in a interracial relationship so i guess thats why what you are saying seems strange to me. My upbringing is just different.
I guess you're just really slow at preparing vegetables... Again putting clothing in a washing machine is not some arduous task. I even make my own laundry detergent and I don't spend much time on those tasks... The fact that you are stressing all these simple tasks as challenging shows me you are incapable of actually facing any real life challenge.
wow!!! I am not even going to argue because you. It is like talking to a wall. Anybody who does laundry know the process takes longer than 20 minutes. 20 minutes is just to have the washer run. Doing laundry RIGHT takes longer. THe fact that you insult me for stating a fact shows me why you are single. I think it is for the best.
lmao. dude please stay single. Some people are just not meant to be married or with other people. lmao. wow!!!
I don't know where you are from but in the west the average woman does not cook and clean.
In fact the average woman brings very little to the marriage. Then she gets to take all your stuff. Happened to me, She all but ruined my life.
A friend pointed out, that of all the couples in our circle of friends only one are still together. All others broke up within two years of having a child.
In the average marriage I see that the man is expected to do 1/2 of the housework and domestic duties because women want equality. Yet the man is still expected to do the lion's share of the traditionally male jobs: fixing car, yard work, fix it jobs, home improvement, anything heavy, anything laborious. Where is equality in that?
And in many cases prenups are just simply tossed out by judges.
ok fair enough. I didn't know that. I thought ALL women were like my mother. I don't think men and women are equal. I think they are just different and good at different things. Furthermore, My guy already knows that i WILL not sign divorce papers. I don't want to be divorced. LOL "1/2 the housework". I do all the housework, cooking, and fix minor things like the sinks and light fixtures and etc. My guy just sits there while i bring his food to him. Sorry i thought this was normal. My dad had the same arrangement.
I would love to find a woman who actually wants to be equal. I don't see what's wrong with 50/50. I'll vacuum. I'll scrub. But you can help me fix the car and house. I've got no problems shaking off traditional gender rolls but effort must be equal.
And your man shouldn't be sitting on his duff while your working. That's just lazy.
Reading all the men's comments I can see that they are quite justified with the nature of divorce laws in your part of the world!
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Unfortunately. Marriage in the west is russian roulette for a man, if he doesn't get a proper prenup.
On the other hand getting a prenup itself is aweful, because it is made under the assumption that the marriage could fail - which isn't the best start either.
@FakeName123 well that is disappointing!
It is as disappointing for the genuine men as it is for genuine women.
I am more of a traditional mindset myself and it sucks quite a lot.
afraid of commitment, and divorce law at western country i guess
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marriage should be for eternity and this is a somewhat long time
"You get to have kids without any pain" wrong. Ever been kept awake by crying babies? Also additional burdens and money.
"You get sex whenever you want." Not that true per se as from I here from some married men.
"but if you marry the average woman it is great" find one and be sure enough that she is it and not a "nagging, lazy golddigging bitch"
divorce is not very man friendly, you lose very much money. I know a men who got near poverty because of divorce.
"A typical married man get his food home cooked for him each day, clean clothes, a clean house, and basically someone who takes care of him." seems to be a very traditional country and you are talking about very obidient women. Also the man then wants to be sure he is one of the "typical" and not an atypical with a "nagging, lazy golddigging bitch" and it takes some time until you learn people. (Proverb: "Don't judge any man until you have walked two moons in his moccasins.")
I mistakenly married a nagging , lazy bitch , that's for sure... however I got rid of her. The bit about cooking , cleaning , chores & being caring etc does NOT happen anymore , women simply don't " take care " of adult men , those days are long gone , EVERYONE needs to run their own lives , being reliant on others is a big mistake !! Most men , certainly the ones i know , have done their own chores from a young age , nobody , gender regardless , should be a domestic slave , I'm now a single dad & it's actually much easier without a lazy fat slob blocking the way.
" but if you marry the average woman it is great! " Call me a cynic , but most women give the impression that men are neither wanted & certainly not needed in their lives , all the single women I know , want nothing to do with men. Divorce can also ruin a man , if he is not prepared , a man is always , by default , at fault , despite her behaviour.
Because getting married is a shit deal for men because of divorce. Married men are also portrayed as idiots in most forms of media.
Some stats:
-50% chance of divorce.
-70% of divorces initated by women.
-Most common reason for divorce is "dissatisfaction" (what a bullshit reason)
-In a divorce a man looses his: Home, Children, Retirement, most everything else he owns.
-Becomes a slave who must work and give another person, whome he hates now, the fruits of that labor or go to jail.
Would you get married with a 50% chance of failure, when you know 70% of the time it's not even your choice to call it quits, that your spouse will ditch you because they can't be bothered to work on the relationship and when they leave they will take your home, children, retirement and you will be a slave who pays them money every month for the rest of your life?
1. You are tied to a family and a job forever, you cannot go to Fiji or Paris on a whim, you now have responsibilities. You can't even go to the bar, and especially not the strip club.
2. If you grow tired of your wife, too bad. You are stuck with her. If she gets unattractive or stops craving sex, too bad. You will be miserable forever.
3. You have to make an income enough to keep your family in a safe neighborhood. No more bachelor life.
4. And finally: you have no dominance. Demasculation at its finest, that is marriage. No more being popular, no more being a player, no more taming any girl you want. If you look at other girls way way hotter than your wife, too bad. You are unable to flirt with them or prove to yourself you are still a man.
You... are... a.. slave.
Ps: I really want to get married, so I don't agree with these, but from experience with men my age these are common reasons they don't want to get married.
I don't see the point anymore. Personally i find girls today extremely controlling. Plus i feel most girls have lost touch with there feminine sides... if that exists. Honestly while i notice women... i find their personalities to be loud, obnoxious, deceitful, only focused on their careers or down right mean.
I have a good career going for me, i live on my own and get to travel 4 times a year and i enjoy being single. I just don't want a girls near me in a relationship. I'm tired of girls breathing down my throat
because women are all gold diggers looking for an easy come up through child support
example: Amber Rose
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I personally am not afraid of marriage. My concern with marriage is being able to make it last a long time. In other words, hoping my future wife will follow through in her vows - compared to all the divorced people in the world. I myself would follow through, and I would hope my future wife will, too.
The vast majority of divorces in the U. S. - and maybe even the rest of the world - called by women, and not because they're so abused or mistreated either. I think you should ask your own gender that.
Does not happen where I live.
@candyaurora it's the whole world...
@candyaurora It doesn't matter if it happens where you live or not, the point is that it DOES happen and IS happening. Google it for yourself.
@Djaaaaaay no not in Pakistan, the divorce laws are quite different here.
@candyaurora Accually California too. A lot of women pay alimony and child support too.
Men are just saying ( NO ) these days. Divorce takes half of every thing you have plus child support for ever after. So today men say enough of that. Can't say I blame most of them either. I wonder who was responsible for this mess in the first place ?
Men run from that because they are afraid od divorce, not marriage.
If your wife wants to divorce your house of cards collapses and you lose half of your stuff and you may have to pay to support her lifestyle. What man wants this to happen? No man.
sex as much as u want hhgh funny
because women cause. so much drama and wants everything but offer very little
because she can get a divorce and leave u broke
because most of them are gold digging whores
LMAO
A girl can make you like heaven or hell..
Marriage means no more looking at beautiful ass and flirting with random girls Making out with different girls every day,..
Being responsibility free.. And society sees you as couple
You can have all the good things about marriage, except the tax breaks, in a long-term relationship living together.
But as someone already put it: men are afraid of divorce, not marriage.
Probably cause of how controlling most women become afterwards. The "regular women" unfortunelty have become the controlling types and gold diggers at least in America and even in some middle eastern countries.
Because of women divorce you then they can take ALL YOUR STUFF
We can have the exact same things without marriage.
Marriage is of no benefit to us. It allows to legally scam us. It chains our freedom. It's overpriced. It's worthless.
im not afraid of marriage at all. i really do wanna get married, so i can have lots of fun with my wife
In USA, things are a bit different and getting married offers you nothing except that if she gets bored and loses interest, you lose financially. Massively.
Depends on who you marry. If you marry the girl you described then great. But if you don't...
Because 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
And with all due respect to all the good women, such low odds just aren't worth risking.
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