I disagree because I don't think you can generalize it like that.
My best friend (guy) has been working for a long time as a caretaker in retirement homes. He's told me some fascinating stories. Believe it or not, there are actually people in their 80s and 90s who are getting married. They might have had a spouse before who eventually passed away and left them as a widow (aka single). Some of these people can't handle the sadness of losing their lifelong partner and never marry again. Others, however, live for another 20-25 years and they don't yet want to die inside. They want to enjoy their life to the last day. And so a few of them fall in love again and even get married one more time.
Does that mean they are bad marriage material? I certainly wouldn't say so.
Now, you might say that's unfair because you're specifically talking about people who have never been married.
However, even then, I don't think we can just throw everyone into one big bucket. Are there women in their 30s who have been very promiscuous? Sure. But there are also others. My best girl friend for instance is the other extreme. She is now 32 and has never had a boyfriend. Her looks don't help her (she's really short) and she's got selective mutism, which makes getting to know new people a bit difficult for her. But once you actually know her, like I do, you find out she's a really wonderful and intelligent person. I have no doubt she could maintain a serious, loving relationship if she met the right guy.
On the other hand, I also don't think that being promiscuous automatically makes you incapable of maintaining a serious relationship. Maybe some people are like that but others are not. It all depends on WHY you were being promiscuous. Was a girl jumping from guy to guy because she isn't able to create a serious bond or was she simply doing it because serious bonds were not the thing she was looking for at that point in her life? That makes a big difference. Not wanting to commit and not being able to commit are two entirely different pair of shoes.
Likewise, I don't think being a religious prude who gets married right out of high school is necessarily a recipe for success. In some cases, making some sexual experiments before settling down can be helpful because you're not going to regret having missed experiences other people made.
My best guy friend (the caretaker) had sex with a lot of women but now he's in a serious relationship. If he can do it, women can do it too.
Well formed opinion.
@StingRayxoxo
Thank you :-)
Unfortunately i had to marry someone far younger than me.. Because at the time i was ready to actually marry (age 29) most women my age were single mothers, Which i won't go near with a ten foot poll.. Some of this is right.. Some of this is very wrong.
Na man not unfortunately you did the right thing and I totally agree with you single mothers are horrible people I am sorry to say it but they are full of drama and a relationship is doomed because they are all about their kids who are usually disgusting and I don't want anywhere near me.
@CurlyHairGuy lets not forget that Single mother homes produce more criminals, more teen pregnancies, more high school drop outs than a full family where the father is present.
Ssshhh!!! You can't say that no matter if it's true lol
Lets also not forget that single mothers don't shower much or smell very good either ooops I shouldn't have said that
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.
Triggered!!! How dare you say this, men should man up and marry these women you sexist patriarchal misogynist, where do you get off with this?
Lol, but in actuality I agree, single women over thirty were most likely hardcore party girls in their late teens and throughout their twenties. If that’s the case, then they have no sexual morality, or any morality for that matter, are past the age where they had the highest fertility and the highest chance of delivering healthy offspring, may or may not have neglected their education and gotten stuck in a dead-end job, may or may not be riddled with STD’s, may or may have struggled with unplanned pregnancies, and are reaching the point of life where their attractiveness is beginning to steeply decline. Essentially, they have relatively no market value and are, as you put it, very poor marriage material.
Well said.
Ms. Carpetdenim, all my respect. well written.
Such a queen
Thank you!!! ❤️❤️
I have no market value
@disgustingweebtrash you do
I voted other. I think the issue with women in their 30s, especially those with a career, is they´re very picky, and tend to make wish lists with criteria a guy has to live up to, sometimes quite unrealistic.
Also after 40 men's sperm isn't as healthy
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u If you are not wanting a woman to have babies, older women can be excellent partners. However, just as with younger women, it all depends on the effort you expend on finding the right woman.
Women over 30 in western countries who are not married are commonly bratty and moody. They jump from partner to partner really quick which didn't allow them time to change. Because people change their views and approach on relationships after a breakup usually. These people kept rebounding, they never experienced inner growth. So they'd behalf like 18-year-olds sometimes because they're insecure about their age. In fact, they're insecure about almost everything because the more they rebound, the worse they date (their low esteem drops and drops).
I'm speaking on behalf on ONE girl who i am seeing right now. So can't be all true. Plus people are marrying in their 30s now right?
I'd marry them, i love the fucked up chicks lol.
Oh and
Triggered!!! How dare you say this, men should man up and marry these women you sexist patriarchal misogynist, where do you get off with this.
People who use "cock carousel" unironically - urgh.
That said, meh. I think people are a little more diverse than all 30+ women being partygoers and promiscuous. I won't doubt it's true for a good portion though.
I'm also never gonna be one of those women so I don't particularly care. Plenty of rancid men too. We all suck. Humanity doomed.
Depends.
30+ and single mum with kids, or history of multiple partners and/or divorce - avoid her like the plague.
30+ educated, has a job, has worked and travelled a bit, may have had one relationship but never married and no kids and not a party girl - she may be ok, but proceed with caution.
Also consider if you want to have kids or not because once she reaches 35 her fertility starts to decline, then when she's 40 it goes into free fall. So if you're seriously looking to reproduce then try to get a partner who is under 33. Also know that some women who want kids, when they get to around 30 they start to get desperate and have 'baby rabies' this can be off-putting too.
Hey how dare you say that. I mean even dough I am a dude. I don't see nothing wrong with getting married over 30 . My mom got married when she was 37 she had me at age 43 and my dad was 47 . Both of my parents are lawyers they reason people wait is because they want to establish their career first.
Must have been a lot of ivf
The photos here suggests as if every single woman rode the cock carousal until 30
and they are all single because of that. Yes a lot do ride the carousal but there are some good, honests women in their 30s that met assholes in their early and mid twenties. These guys used them for sex and never wanted marriage when the woman wanted it when she was still in her twenties.
So I think it is a very bad idea to look at every single woman over 30 and think "Oh there
is another carousal rider single and lonely.". Not every single woman over 30
is a carousal rider because some of the good women unfortunately wasted time with bad guys and passed the age of 30 still single. But yes after 30 it's tough for both carousal riders as well as for good women to get married.
A bit harsh I think and I am sure many things can be said about some guys over 30. There may be some as described above but I honestly think most of them are normal women over a certain age. I would be no more wary of a single woman of 20 or a single woman of 40 on this narrow criteria (obviously other matters may count in a wider criteria)
Real life is different than r/braincels r/redpill circlejerk
In a general sense I think there’s a strong contingent of women who have this problem and they should be avoided, but women really aren’t as bad as 4chan makes it out to be. The internet paints a bleak picture of what any group is like, what they do, etc. Any statistical indication they can get about a group will be used to smear them regardless of the context of those numbers.
In my opinion, the most desirable women of my experience have been women in their late twenties and thirties.
I'm unmarried and childless at age 31 for other reasons out of my control. Nope, I've never done the ''riding the cock carousel''. My number is at 1.
My love interested isn't even located in my country.
How's that working out for you, fucking around with people of other countries?
@John_Bouff
I've only had one boyfriend in my life. It's been a long time since we've seen each other and he's not from my country. We're still looking forward to finally reunite and get married.
As for what caused this situation, that's something personal I don't care to go into details. Thanks a lot for assuming wrong.
Dont feel bad hey my mom got marry when she was 37 years old so you have a lot of time ahead of you now a days it is normal for people over 40 to have babies. Eva Mendez had her kids over 40 . You are still young no worries.
Ignore the negative comments.
By the way my mom had me at age 43 so you have plenty of time.
You're 35 years old and will likely give birth to some inbred Muslim kid. Good luck with that
I think both men and women who remain unmarried until they are over 30 just get set in their ways and when they do marry, there may be some clashes because of that. BUT, women now outnumber men in going for graduate degrees and to become a fully certified specialist, and then become a sub-specialist, in the medical field, for instance, a person is either approaching 30 or into them. And these 35 year old MDs look pretty damn good. So don't exclude 35 year olds from your black book.
I would take a fun 20 something year old girl who is poor over a rich 35 yr old woman who is made of money just for the simple fact what is the point of marrying someone if you are going to be miserable and bored to death?
Wtf does that mean?
I would take peanut butter and jelly over someone I despise
It depends on whether they're a split-up or just never really connected - the latter would be a red flag in my opinion.
If they're divorced or split then they may be a potential suitor - that's your job in dating is to make that determination. Most will not be anyway.
But no, I don't think age as as much to do with it as attitude and experience. If they're fresh off the cock-carousel and now looking for a mate they may be considered past prime. But ya gotta try 'em on and see.
Sounds about right, except I DO NOT agree that a woman's greatest value is her sexuality. Her personality is way more important.
But I love sluts. They provide people with free sex, and that's great for everyone. But settle down a bit earlier than 30, and bring value to your husbands life beyond sex.
100% false. A 21 year old woman can be as much of a cancer as a wife as a 30 year old woman can.
Age has zero factor into what kind of a person you're dealing with marriage wise.
This is so dumb. Who are these male idiots. Many women in their 30ds have had long term relationships previously or good careers etc.
In fact, most people don’t marry until after 30 now, and that’s rather sensible.
Most women I think marry 27-30 before the clock ticks out.
Most people today think that's sensible, but today people get divorced more than ever before. As for children, after 30 a woman's fertility declines. This is why men see women in their 20s as most attractive and why her careers makes no difference at all to how attractive she is to a man. If you want children then it makes no sense to go after such a woman because yeah, some 30 year old women are fine having children, but plenty of others struggle to concieve or have more problems during pregnancy. I know people who waited too long thinking that they were sensible, focusing on their careers, then they had to spend thousands on IVF treatment and even then some of them couldnt get pregnant. So they focused on saving money, spent a ton of it, and had nothing to show for it. Real sensible.
I’m sorry but every single one of my friends have had children in their 30s. They’re all perfectly healthy. The parents are actually happier than the younger ones. You’re all just making a bloody mountain out of a mile hill, I mean do you even live in the real world? Or are you just overly fearful for some reason?
*mole hill.
I'm interested in having some more kids, and I'd be happy to do that with a woman in her 30s.
My Mom had me when she was 30 year old, dad 35
I mean I turned out fine. Having kids at too young age of 23-24 also can be bad
My mom had me when she was 43 my dad was 47 I turn out just find and healthy. My parents first went to law school they are lawyers first they work on getting a degree finish school establish their career later they had me and my sister. People that get married in 20s attend to have more kids.
@englisc my mom had me when she was 43. You are right it is not impossible.
@Awsomedudever yeah women are having kids into their sixties these days or like my aunt who started trying at 35 and was told she left it too late.
@englisc "more likely that they won't"
I know so many women who had kids at over 30. Without complications. Due to advancement in medical science, it's not that difficult to give birth at bit later stage.
@Schrodingerscat You hear that women? Some 46(!) year old dude is still interested in a 30 year old fuckbuddy. The fucking gall on this guy
@Schrodingerscat i think its still pretty difficult and older mothers and fathers tend to have children with birth defects
@Schrodingerscat sorry are more likely.
@John_Bouff: Nope, don't have fuckbuddies and don't do casual sex.
@John_Bouff quit acting like a moron, trolls and bore off. Unless you have anything intelligent to say, don’t bother trolling.
And @WhitePanther88 just because it’s happened to people you know, doesn’t mean it happens to the majority of everyone else. Not sure where you’re from, but it’s pretty standard here to have healthy children in 30s, more so than just genetically too.
*trolls are boring so bore off
Your risk of pregnancy complications, such as high blood pressure and gestational diabetes, increases after 35 and continues to rise in your 40s. The odds of genetic problems also jump as you get older: At 40, your chance of conceiving a child with Down syndrome is one in 100; at 45 it's one in 30.
That’s easily managed for a start, not exactly a problem, and is only a risk, especially if you’re healthy to begin with by looking after yourself in the first place
I also think there is a lot of scaremongering regarding pregnancies after age 30.
Not really. The difference between male and female gametes is that male gametes are constantly produced and female gametes are all batch-produced at the moment of conception. (In particular ovocytes are all done at the moment the girl child is born). This means that a 42 year-old woman has 42 year old gametes whereas a 42 year-old male has gametes that are a day old.
@John_Bouff male gamites are also more prone to carrying disease and deformities due to the lesser chromosome.
@Logorithim true!
IVF is a business after all. A good professional doctor will tell you thatregular sex can be just as if not more effective at times.
Maybe so but that doesn't mean women should be getting pregnant later cause quality of female gametes deteriorates quickly (like the sexual desirability of women themselves). Men age like wine, women like fish
@John_Bouff plenty of women manage it better now, we look after ourselves better due to advanced knowledge and interventions. We’re not in the 1950s anymore.
"advanced knowledge" ain't gonna cure your kid from being a Mongoloid if you gave birth to him while old
@John_Bouff do some research on how everything affects the body and female pregnancy and then we can have a genuine interesting conversation.
Gametes grow old like fish ain't no Falun Gong gonna change that
it’s not up to me to educate you, if you want the truth you’ll find it. If not, good luck finding someone with the same outlook.
Good luck raising a kid with more heads than digits in his IQ
@John_Bouff and this just proves exactly why your logic is ridiculous lmao
Until your brain has matured enough I’m not interested :p thanks for the entertainment though
It might take until he's in his 30s.
@Logorithim Y'all old people should get a room and make Mongoloid babies
@Logorithim haha at this rate he’ll be lucky with that.
No kidding...
@John_Bouff: I can see why you're single. Someday you may want to date outside of your race, too.
@Logorithim Sure thing Mister Merchant
@John_Bouff: Until then, you're just Comic relief
@Logorithim Well at least I don't have 4 mongoloid kids
@John_Bouff: I don't either. Mine are all perfectly healthy. Do Keep up with the times- it's now called "Down Syndrome".
Um wow definitely not. I confidentially know that I am marriage material and I definitely want to be a mother. I’m 25 going on 26. I ignore anyone who tells me to rush and settle down ASAP. Then they wonder why divorce rate is so high in the US. Everyone is on their own time. And just for the record I don’t have casual sex at all or “ride the cock carousel.” I barely even go out and date and never use apps. I hold myself highly and don’t put out. My last relationship like 2 years ago was the last time I ever had sex. So, please do yourself a favor and knock off all this nonsense about women in their 20s and the wall or whatever else just to make yourself feel bigger.
Simple
The " cock carousel " is a myth , for the vast majority of women , sex is not that important at all , as they do not have male levels of testosterone , which is the primary sex drive driver. Somewhat true , there are plenty of women to avoid like Ebola , but they will always be able to find a sucker man , as available males outnumber available females , in some places by a large margin.
Generally, Not trying to besmirch anyone over 30 that's single. But typically women have settled down to raise kids by 30 if that is what they desire. Why else would you marry someone but to raise a family? So if they haven't married by 30 there's usually a reason why.
I guess so. I have a few single relatives in their 30s and from what I've heard there are reasons they are single.
A lot of women my age don’t want to get married... that includes me
No, there are so many possible reasons for not being married at 30, besides being a shitty person to marry.
Are there women like this? Absolutely. do they represent the majority? Not in my experience, though your mileage may vary.
Not necessarily- there are so many variables that you can't really generalize. I'd give it a shot if she meets my dating criteria.
I will be honest they suck and are so boring and most of them have kids so that is another bunch of BS you have to deal with but there are a few diamonds in the rough worth dating.
Mr. WP is straight to the point. even if thats not comfortable to see this truth, it is as it is generally. I believe there are exceptions -fortunately- but today this disease is very common.
Not in the slightest it is becoming more and more commonplace for men and women alike to hold of on marriage and family in favour of getting education's and settle into a career and then when that is sorted start to look towards those things
Men historically held off marraige until 30, women until 20. Once upon a time if a woman wasn't married by 26 she probably would never marry.
:-) I see what you did here and I feel it funny but I am not sure averyone get it ;-)
I voted D by the way, you triggered me a lot :-D
Girls like described in the question? Heck yes, not good. But just over 30? No way to tell. Could be normal.
If they have been married before, had kids then yes, probably not marriage material but it is hard to generalize. There are always exceptions.
Not really. Some women are working on their education earning advanced degrees in their 20s. Not everyone is chasing marriage and babies at 18.
Nope it is nothing like that
If she was meant to get married she would have , that is it
The age doesn't matter. A woman in the west is poor marriage material regardless of age and beliefs.
I don't know, I'm nowhere near 30, can't really answer.
The cock carousel, that's funny. They would just continue on the merry go round.
Well considering women are most fertile when at 23 years old 30 years old seems almost overdue.
You've a piss poor opinion of women.
I treat them as equal to men.
i think it would just depend on the woman
I mean, there is a lot of truth to this...
No, actually my parents married at 30.
Weren't they dating for like ten years before?
I am the cock carousel. I am the one that knocks.
Depends on the reason she's still single.
I disagree, but not strongly
not at all usually just the opposite
Then look for virgins
Yeah I do, for the most part, not all
It goes both ways 🙄
Not at all.
(Are sure you are not talking about todays generation in the future with hookup culture? Most females I know in their 30s have been in super long term relationships and really good caretakers. 🤔) I could say the same of men really 🤔🤔depends on the person 😂🤣. You can't just generalize all women in the same age category to be the same. I could claim all guys are emotionless creatures. Anyways though... a lot of FACTORS tie into it, those specific females you speak of or generation were most likely raised on a religious principle (unlike most of 2days generation) maybe their s. o has passed away, whatever the reason may be. That being said those females are indoctrinated that sex is to be enjoyed only in the confines of marriage sooo once out of realtionship they could go on wild forbes, Male up for lost time so on, want no strings attached. There is so much psychology behind it. I could write a 5 paragraph essay.
There's a difference when it comes to single men in their 30s and single women in their 30s. Women tend to have certain requirements of a husband that most men can't meet until they are in their late 20s early 30s whereas it's the opposite for women.
The pictures you corralated with the question made it a tad bit confusing I suppose but I see what you are getting at. I do agree with that, that they have those requirements.
But, definitely doesn't make them bad marriage material.
Yeah
well yes,
No, I don't.
Too many variables
i agree 100%
Fantastic take
Accurate af son
I would agree.
Nope
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