I feel like people only get better with age. I've heard people say those things before too.
I knew one guy who said he would never date any women over 25, that women stop being beautiful after that. But you know what, I feel bad for him that he has to be so superficial.
In the twenties, most people are still finding themselves. They are experimenting and learning lots of lessons. In your 30's and beyond most people have already gone through life enough to have some life experience.
This makes them better partners and more resilient.
Sure, some people have baggage and become old fuddy duddys. But most people are more interesting as they age.
Think about it, you have more stories to tell!
It's your ex's loss if he feels that way. But I bet when he is 50 and trying to date the young 20 somethings, he's going to feel like and old man. Either that or bored to tears because the young girls aren't going to be interested in the same things as him!
Plus people tend to laugh at those guys who think they are 20 when they aren't 20 anymore!
I feel like the men who consider women over 30 to be undesirable are not the men you should be spending any time and effort on anyway. They are way too shallow. Looks fade and we all age. I understand believing that someone who looks youthful looks good, but that doesn't automatically mean that anyone above 30 looks bad. There are plenty of 30+ people who still look good. One does not cancel out the other.
Your ex was a douchebag and the epitome of the kind of guy you should not date. There are plenty of guys out there who not only are capable of finding older women hot, but also understand and value a woman's personality and character to the point where looks isn't all they're looking for.
The likelihood of any child which you'd conceive, as a woman over the age of 30, having genetic disabilities or deformities, is heightened to such an extent that it's likelier than it is for a child conceived by a woman in her late teens as the product of incest with her second cousin, or with her first cousin once-removed. Genetically, biologically, it's indisputably undesirable. "The Wall" is real. And neither the increasing feminization of society nor the fetishization of 'mature women' (eg, MILFs) is going to bring that wall crashing down, any more than a push to fully legalize incest and make it socially acceptable would resolve the issue of inbreeding. That's just reality.
u Two months ago, I briefly dated a woman who is 78 years old. She does not look like she is 78. She looks like she is 58 and I DEFINITELY had the hots for her!
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I don't think anyone said that women over 30 were undesirable - merely that women in their 20s - early 20s in particular - are the most PHYSICALLY attractive to adult men of all ages. Attractiveness is not strictly physical, though, and many other things about older women make them attractive for older men.
Also, just because older women aren't usually AS physically attractive as women in their 20 doesn't mean that they aren't physically attractive. It's not a Disney movie where women turn into pumpkins on their 30th birthday.
If raw physical attraction was the ONLY criteria for choosing a relationship partner, then women would have some cause to worry - but that's just not how it works.
When I was 27 I dated a woman that was 34 years old for 2 years. That made her 7 years older than me. By the time the relationship ended I was 29 and she was 36 years old. That was my last ex.
Currently I am 30 years old and dating a woman who is 31 years old. Things are going wonderfully.
I find women who are in their 30s more attractive than the 20 year old because they are sexually more confident and also more experienced in bed. They also are intellectual and more mature people to talk to whom I can relate to.
As far as attraction on a pure sexual level. I am willing to have sex with many different ages of women. If you are sexy you are sexy regardless of age.
Even in my early 20s, I thought women reached their peak in their 30s (I still do). Your ex is very incorrect.
There's no sudden wall in terms of attractiveness.
Generally both men and women are in a downward slide in terms of physical attractiveness, women from their early 20's on, men from probably late 20's on. That may be somewhat offset by other factors both physical (if you personally are in better shape at 35 than 25, you might be better looking, but the average person isn't) and other things that make you more attractive to partners (becoming more outgoing, a better partner, more sexually open, whatever).
So being over 30 doesn't magically mean you've dropped in attractiveness.
Now, there IS a bit of an issue with some guys who are nervous dating women in their early 30s. The reason for that is they -perceive- women in that age range either want to get serious fast, or not at all. And... that's not entirely wrong, and women who want that are not misguided. Guys who are ready to potentially settle down don't mind, but guys who just want something casual may aim younger to get women who aren't on a timetable. If you want something serious, you're not losing out avoiding those guys, but if you want something light, you may need to drop hints you're not in 'husband hunting mode' (and there's nothing wrong with BEING in husband hunting mode either, if you are)
I'd simply be contemplating the meaning of this question and meanings behind it.
Did the ex say that to get you to doubt yourself and settle for him? Basically, "nobody but me will accept you, so just accept me." To that reasoning, you won't have a problem finding dick... you're not a dude and that's a dude problem, especially if they are out of shape. An out of shape woman on the other hand... what can I say, gynocentrism maybe... but she won't have any issues finding dicks to phuck assholes and pussies.
Now with all that said... beggars can't be choosers. Most dudes that don't have resources or looks on their side... beggars. For those that have choices though, yeah, they're not going to settle for some aging woman that probably has a myriad of issues she still isn't going to face until her 60's. They're buff and have their own money... women want to have sex with them just from the looks alone... why would they bother with older women at all unless she was giving him excessive amounts of money?
... and there you have it, men and women aren't all that different after all. Options are given to us based off value. Our physical healthiness for reproduction or resources are the real things of value to another.
Basically settle for something or else the ex is pretty much right. You could workout and offer a free ride and get a man... but let's be real, you're a woman. That is usually a male strategy. You'll probably settle for whatever you can still seduce into a settlement.
Me personally I'm very straightforward, love is a very strong word. Now I always start any relationship off as a friendship because in the end your wife will be your best friend. I've dated many single mothers, the one thing isnn I have though as I'm not a homewrecker. So the woman has to be honest from the start and she's definitely a hundred percent divorced and not just be separated. The other thing is depending on the children I don't mind being the man figure in the house when I come over but I would never want to take the role of ever saying I'm their father. I would just be their mother's friend in the beginning. With hanging out and seeing her children. We can play videos and board games or what have you. There's nothing wrong with single parents over 50% of the population divorce so it's nothing new. Oh yeah and the tough question I've been in love 3 * one relationship over a year another 6 years another 2 years that's why I don't jump into relationships anymore. If it's meant to be it'll just happened overtime. One to three months
Age does not matter. Back in my early 20s I had a relationship with a woman in her early 60s.
To me, a wet behind the ears kid, she seemed incredibly sophisticated. She looked younger, was incredibly funny and the sex was fantastic. (Plus, no danger of pregnancy, so it got really uninhibited.)
It did not last because of the age difference. Ultimately I knew I wanted children - though I had a long (and bumpy) road ahead of me before I got to that - and honestly, she probably was getting bored with me. Still, I look back on it with nothing but good thoughts.
If I had assumed no one over 30, I would have missed that. Yes, she has to be physically attractive - and it so happened that she looked (to me at least) a bit younger than her age - but from a purely crass perspective, an unattractive 20 years old is no different than an unattractive 50 year old.
So, in that sense, age is irrelevant.
here's a cliché that I believe is true... "Age is just a number".
The length of a year is something we humans invented to measure time. Being 30 years old is just label, the same as being labelled as a 21 year old. Age doesn't stand in the way of what people are attracted to. I believe, if it feels right, then what difference does age make? The only issue someone could have is the shortage of singe people at that age.
The more time that passes by, the more people of your generation settle down, resulting in less singles in the same age group... but not to worry "Age is Just a Number"!!
Well yes... women do lose significant dating worth past 30...
I've personally seen women in their 20's go for what they want... it doesn't work out then... then during their 30's I see them significantly drop their standards...
Significantly though lol... some were like I don't want a short man
I see her marrying a short guy now LOL
some say no bald men... yup she's marrying a bald man now hahah
men age like wine, we just tend to get sexier and more attractive to women... women age like milk..
truth hahah
Unfortunately yes. the issue that a lot of guys have with being dating women past 30 is they often are, how do I put this... "tired in personality". Often they are set in their ways, closed minded, etc.
One thing that is really noticable is if you are scrolling through dating profiles women will put random stuff like "I like hiking and jogging" but often 30+ women will not even try to be nice. It's not uncommon to have intro sentences that are something like "If ya don't like kids, I got some so move along!!"
They're wrong. I'm a nearly 26 year old female, so yes under 30. But within the past 4 years, I know of 3 different women over 30 who got married. One was 42, one 35 and the other is somewhere between 35-40. Its not impossible by any means. Shit, my mom had been divorced 3 times, with 4 children, married my stepdad when she was 32 and he was 27. Everyone said she would never find love with that much baggage. She did, they've been together 16 years.
Those men are out there. Especially now days, 20 years ago the normal marriage age was 16-18. It is currently for 2017 26-28.
I think it depends on the person, how they treat themselves & their bodies. Some don't take care of themselves & just let go while others do almost to an insane extent. I do know that for me personally, I follow the plus or minus 5yrs rule & for the most part it works out a lot. There's more than enough experience to go around, learn "new" things while teaching old school tricks. (shrugs) Some people think about things like this too much and forget that sometimes its just easier to go with the flow and not be such a stick in the mud.
You did not put it in context.
No one will like a women who hit the 30 and have sleep around until 30. The reality of things most women are " sluts" and when they were teenagers they though life is just for fun, but after becoming adult, they changed and realised how they are fucked up cuz no one will marry them.
So that is answer based on context.
But if u r ok and respectable, then maybe you are following society rules like guys should be the first one instead of you going for what you want.
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I assume you want American opinions right?
Anyway, do you sincerely think that there are little to no women over 30 finding love and obtaining good relationships?
Not really. At least... not me.
I had several bad experiences with older women... (we'll say more like "older girls in their late thirties and mid forties") who kind of got me swearing off dating women in their late 30's, early 40's. Sort of.
Of course, there have been a lot of desirable women in their 30's and 40's... and some who stayed that way.
I might go younger (20's or early 30's) just as a thing, partly because of where I am in life, estimating where I will be in years, etc.
I suppose it all depends on the person more than the age, though with a lot of guys, age is a huge part of it (perhaps even more than maturity level, which is what I tend to look at among things like personality).
No I generally go for women in their twenties like me but one in their thirties can be sexy as fuck, like, I don't normally find celebrities more attractive than the women I know in real life or follow online but 30 hit Jennifer Anniston like a falling feather. I've dated a woman who was actually more than double my age & had more fun than I did with the 18 year old I was with prior.
Age really, to me, is just a number. It does not arbitrate attractiveness, though it does effect relationship dynamics & dating prospects. Like I remember I had less of a pick of the litter in junior high cause the girls always went for high schoolers.
He lied. You are BETTER THAN THAT!! donāt believe what he told you. He is an ex for a reason and sometimes they will say anything just to hurt you to help their ego, knowing they got some kind of revenge.
You are desirable... if someone does not like you for you... drop them... thatās just my 2 cents.
Your ex is an ass and also wrong. People can find love at any time in their lives and there's no age when you lose the chance to have that.
Your ex is trying to manipulate you to lower your self esteem and I hope that you don't lose hope that you'll find the right person.
Actually, it's after about 28, generally.
But The Wall can have his way with a woman earlier than that. It depends on how much partying she's done. Alcohol, drugs, and a bunch of strange cock will age women badly. I've known a few teens that looked like they were in their late 20's.
A guy may be reluctant if he wants to start a family but if he already has kids or doesn't want any kids, or just wants a non serious relationship then a woman who is in her 30's is just a number. Several years ago I wasn't looking to start a family and ended up in a relationship with a woman who at the time was 38. She was one sexy mama, but now that I'm getting to the point where I want to have kids and start a family then I am starting to look towards woman around my own age. Which is under 30. But a woman who is 30,31,32 isn't too far off so. . . overall, no i don't think men find woman undesirable after 30.
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