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Men, do you sincerely think that women over 30 are "undesirable"? (Page 2)
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Women over 30? I could only imagine how high the body count would be by then...
I'm in my 40's, and I get interest from women aged 19-40+. I'm not looking for a relationship, but most of the 30+ women had a lot of baggage, ex's, and very high body counts. Most girls in their 20's had nothing to say, but I met one that was very mature for her age and we could talk for days... I still prefer to be single though.
I think it's more that a woman of 30 is competing with younger women, and for the most part, it's just not possible to compete.
At the moment a 24 year old cute Asian girl is interested, she's single, has no kids, and no baggage. There is also a 31 year old Asian woman interested but she has 2 kids from an ex, and baggage.
When I was 20, I had less interest overall from all women.
I'm 22 and I already find women over 30 really desirable. Older women have the experience going for them, many have a stable life and some of them a family. It's the number one choice for many younger males who want a peaceful romance. When we grow older many men will start being into younger girls, because we are biologically programmed to find fertility and youth attractive (the "find a mate and reproduce" process that keeps humanity alive), but it's far from a generallity and it doesn't mean no one of your age will want to marry you once you're 30.
Don't believe your ex's trashtalk.
No, women over 30 are not undesirable. They are just less desirable and have significantly less power in the dating game. Men mature more slowly than women, but by the time they reach their 30s they are mature and more established in heir careers. If they are still single at that point they are super desirable to younger women, and those men tend to be attracted to those younger women too.
Basically, in the 20s women have all the power, but those tables totally turn in the 30s. Women are wise to marry in their 20s and men are wise to wait until their 30s.
I'd prefer it, actually. Most women I know in their 30's are very kind, very polite, loyal, hardworking, smart, and honest.
I know far too many women in their 20's who are very selfish, demanding, entitled, arrogant, and lazy.
Men will sleep with a woman after 30, but your chances of finding a single attractive man your age will be hard, and even harder to find a man who wants to be with you. You lose a lot of sexual power as you age, men don't want to work as hard for older women as they do for younger women.
There’s a thing called the wall for women. Unfortunately, as women age, their sexual market value decreases. Two reasons: one you don’t have many eggs left and two your physical appearance fades as well. Meanwhile men become richer and more sophisticated and they can find someone younger and more attractive.
u suck
@boulshyte lol he's the most logical response here and women dislike him. Somebody hitting the wall? Lol... SOMEBODY FUCKED UP EHH?
Bald spots and beer bellies are soooooo sexy <3
@lumos LOOOOL is that what you think i have?
@boulshyte I may suck as a person but that doesn’t change the fact what men and women desire. Additionally, that’s what happens in reality.
@lumos women generally value a man’s ability to produce resources over his physical nature. Money, power, and fame negate a man’s physical issues.
Thankfully women in western countries make their own money now :) and tbh very few men around me would be considered rich or powerful so you’re kinda talking about just the top 10%.
@lumos men still make more money than women and eventually most women want to be taken care of whether it’s by the government or men.
That's some bs
@lumos no it's actually verifiable fact wanna crunch some numbers? Men pay the vast majority of taxes, women consume the vast majority of government goodies, men on average generate wayyyy more wealth than women on average, women on average spend wayyy more of other peoples money than men do. This does not apply to individuals on a case by case basis, this is statistics and generalizations are made
@Greatcat crunch those numbers with some actual sources then, and not just sources from the US because the world doesn't revolve around US statistics.
@lumos im trying to find them but i can't get past all this stupid huffpost trendy article feminist bullshit. I believe I posted a link earlier in this convo or another one on this site that showed that women make up 85% of all consumer purchases, so my question would then be, do women make 85% of all earnings and men 15%? That doesn't sound right... so logically women are spending men's money in great proportions.
@Greatcat sorry, idc unless you have a source
@lumos http://she-conomy.com/facts-on-women
girlpowermarketing.com/.../
www.mediapost.com/.../...-rule-well-85-anyway.html
waste my fkn time do your own research if you wanna learn stuff (you clearly don't I don't know why I bother)
@Greatcat burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not the one questioning it.
Arguably, women reach their peak desirability in their early 30's because that's their fertility peak. At least with women who are already desirable.
That said, unmarried women in their 30's are usually not taken too seriously because if they were desirable or quality women, they'd have long since been married. There are exceptions, but it's generally the case that there's a reason they're not already taken.
Yes that was the conventional logic among men when I was in my late 20's. Some of my friends felt that a guy was better off dating divorcees in their late 20's rather than never married ones, for the reasons you stated. Of course everyone is marrying later now, if at all...
I find women who have had a kid and 30s+ more desirable looking than the 20s look. The way a woman’s body fills out is nice to me. Assuming she takes some care of herself.
The younger look just looks too young to me usually. I also thought this when I was 30s
It seems like your boyfriend made you think your undesirable and your asking this because your 30, and. You want 25 to 29 year olds to answear must mean your ex was younger than you. the term milf doesn't apply to 20 year olds lol a lot of guys like older women. I even would rather date a girl older than me.
Women over 30 can be more desirable than women in their 20 and one of the reasons is that more 30 years old women are less worried if you have 6 fucking bumps in the middle of your body, but also much less of not wanting to do certain things and they are generally more mature, so the relationship can be smoother.
That's not necessarily true but... it is kind of true. Lots of women get married after their 30s but the reality is that they just don't have the same options as a woman in her 20s.
A woman in her 30s just is maybe 40% as physically attractive as a woman in her 20s. Couple that with kids, depression, divorce and most guys are like "nahhh"
Or you could be a woman in your 30's with no kids, no depression, no divorce because you've never been married... I'm 28 and I have no kids , I'm not depressed, and I've never been married. And I plan to be this way until I find the right guy.
@Allie_Oops Great!
A woman in her 30s is as beautiful as a woman in her 20s i always think that women who are in their 30s are in their 20s and then they correct me. A woman in her last 30s or early 40s is less attractive than a women in her 20s not early 30s or mid
@Lea96 Guys are terrible at reading signals, but we are extremely good at picking up on both clinginess and subtle signs of age (we are almost gifted at it =P). I don't know... me personally... 27, 28, 29... is kind of the cutoff for me. At least up until I reach like 37 or something haha
Yeah ofcourse when you are under 30 you would want girls who are your age not older nothing wrong with that but it doesn't make older women less attractive they are still beautiful as well ^-^
@Lea96 Unfortunately, here is some real life OkTrends Data that shows male age preferences (for males of all ages)
jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984
It's a disgusting, and kind of sad, albeit true reality
Perfect example of why I think it's important to look at data and not what men on apps like G@G say.
Maybe because a woman in her 20s is more likely to be single and has no baggage with her or it could be entirely on looks i don't know 🤔
@Lea96 You nailed it. It's both! (which I think I mentioned in my original post)
Oh i didn't read the last part now i feel dumb 😂😂
@Lea96 Haha it's okay
I wouldn't say no one would marry you. There is always someone.
Women go downhill fast over 30. Some Asian women might last until 40.
Available women over 30 tend to be bitchy, overweight, not so attractive, or have a problem.
There are some very sweet, nice looking women over 30, but they are ALWAYS happily married.
And my girlfriend is 21.
Hahaha! Where I live it's the exact opposite. Guys in their 20's and mid 30"s are hot and fun and then they go downhill from there. Big bellies, bald, grouchy, jaded, and boring.
@KingsAndQueens
You must only know poor older men.
Older women will never be able to compete with younger women in the looks department, which is what plays the largest role in female sexual attractiveness.
There's a reason why the female modelling careers starts to deteriorate after hitting 30.
Actually, in the Modeling Industry 25 they start decreasing. Unrealistic business.
@Moonchild714 Oh wow. Yeah, any model would be best using the fame they generate as a model to apply themselves in other areas that will last throughout their life - which most do it seems.
That's what they do, it's why they sell skin creams, have their own clothing lines, etc... They utilize their fame to continue to make money.
Not perse the experience is it.. it is for me the development in behaviour and way of thinking is more mature then younger ladies. Dare is higher and most young ladies dont dare much and gives me a bad feeling bcs it ain't a mutual action.. at least so feels it.
honestly? sure, i like the idea of someone in their 20's more... sure i do... that said anyone who's bullshit is mutually tolerable and genuinely loves me is all i want... 20-40(ish) seems like an okay range right now...
i think that there is merit in the idea that a person has a shelf life for desirability, but it is horeshit to treat people like commodities...
Certainly, a girl is more desirable the younger she is. But that does not mean older girls are not desirable. I have seen 50plus girls that are hott as hell, but they tend to be bitches and selfish, divorced, and independent women.
Not sure why they take this path, but it seems lonely to me. I am sad about that.
Do women who are in their 30's only go after guys who find them undesirable. I don't find any age "better" than any other. I judge a woman by her intelligence. Now I'm not saying I do not require any physical characteristics cuz I do. A mind is just as important...😁😎
20's were satisfying and experimental since they were do curious & try anything once, naturally slim but some not yet body blossomed
but
30-40s brings bedroom wisdom, exotic hedonistic adventures and what it takes to please a man with a body now built for the E-ticket rides
or course, many expect more in the presex dating scene such as dancing, fine dining, et al.
Horse manure. When I was 22, I dated a woman who was 34. I found her attractive. Your ex will say anything to try to cut you down to his size. Don't fall for it.
~JSmith
Absolutely, they are desirable.
I had this precise conversation with a friend of mine on here recently. Fuck knows who thought up this myth.