Do you agree that going for older women is actually a bad idea for men?

[Anonymous]

The guy in the video bring up a lot of good points on the downside of older woman. For one they often get more bitter, jaded and numb to dating the older they get since they've been on so many date with men in the past. You are just another dude she has to go out on a date with until she finds one willing to commit to LTR/husband and babies.

In addition, the expectation and standards for older women don't go down but up. Sure women may be more lax on physicals a little but everything else goes up on what they expect of you due to her thinking she is more valuable now despite losing on a lot of things that men value, such as fertility and youth.

Lastly, older women will hop on different male hating movements and try to encourage other women in hating men and being single because misery likes company.

Yes

No

[HighValue]

If he is the kind of guy that just wants hook ups and to use them that way he would have much better luck with women in their mid 30s or older because they have a very small amount of dating options.

If he wants something serious and long term to start a family and raise kids with then it is a bad idea to go for an older woman.

What could she possibly offer a good guy that wants long term and kids that a younger woman couldn't offer him better? (Serious question if anyone has any realistic ideas)

Seriously, the older woman would likely have much more drama, have many more exes or been sleeping with many more guys, be more likely to have contracted an STD from all of that sexual "experience." Depending on her age (mid 30s and up) she would be significantly less likely to have healthy kids without learning disabilities. The majority of women from my generation and older are not the type to enjoy sporty physical activities, gaming, or any common interests of guys other than drinking.

[TruthBringer]

If men actually think of starting a family, then going for older women is often a bad idea as their fertility is starting to expire. I would never get with an older woman specifically for this reason. As well as I want to be able to enjoy a younger woman's beauty longer without her having to nag me to give her kids because her biological clock is ticking, when I don't feel like I'm at that stage of my life. I'd rather have us take our time to be 100% ready and then grow old together.

Often women who date younger men want to "feel young" as they are shit scared of getting older. They crave that time of getting attention and validation from society when they were at their peek beauty (20s).

[OlderAndWiser]

Have you ever actually dated an older woman? I have and always had good experiences.

Perhaps if you have negative expectations, you find what you are looking for!

[TheSpaceGnome]

That is the wrong perspective, people who stereotype aren't dating material at all, at any age, and many young women act the way you described older ones acting.

People who don't have shared hobbies, lifestyles, and goals, aren't worth dating.

Dominant and submissive are not real relationship roles.

Men are not supposed to pay for everything, nor are women, split 50/50 is the way to go.

People who allow experiences to jade them and make them bitter, are not dating material, thus it isn't an age thing, it's a personality type thing.

Find a woman who's happiness is based on the same things that make you happy.

As far as fertility goes, I don't want kids, so thats moot to me.

When looking at age, only 3 things matter, 1. is she legal? 2. is she close enough to my age that the odds of us relating to eachother is high? 3. is she young enough and old enough that it won't feel like either of us are the other's parent?

As far as looks go, you can retain those in your 60s or lose them in your teens, or you can just never have had them to begin with. But thats all subjective, my idea of a 10 could be your 1, and your idea of a 10 could be my 1.

[Anonymous]

I just don’t know why you would.

I’ve been with older women when I was 19/20, but I think a lot of guys do that because of the whole MILF porn thing. Just the fantasy of having sex with an older woman. Or maybe just growing up as a teen fantasising about adult women, having crushes on hot teachers and stuff, has something to do with it.

A lot of guys say that older women are more mature, others like yourself might say that they can be more jaded and carry more baggage, but in my experience there’s not much of a difference between older and younger women.

Some people never grow up. They continue to act as they did in their late teens forever. Others who have maybe gotten married young for a decade or more and then ended up divorced often go out looking to experience the things they experienced when they were young, or which they felt like they missed out on in their youth.

So either way they’re gonna act the same as younger women. In fact that’s partly why they go for younger men - the types of guy they used to date.

If you want a family, an older woman is a bad bet because the older she is the less fertile she’ll be, the more complications during pregnancy, the less children you can have if any.

If you can date a younger woman over an older woman, when they act just the same, but the younger one closer to your own age is likely to be more attractive as well as having more in common with you, again why would you?

[shaysh87]

I think that there are equally as many bad aspects when it comes to younger women such as immaturity, not taking relationships seriously, playing games with men, attention seeking, not sure what she wants. Its just that men don't complain about these things because they are into better looking women. Men have less tolerance for BS with older women because they're less attractive.

And another thing is: If you're a 45 yr old man, you're unlikely to find romance with someone who is 25 years old. Lets be honest right here. In vast majority of cases, both individuals would have huge differences in sense of humor , maturity, experience, perspective on life. Things you found funny at 25, you may no longer find funny at 45. This is why most people tend to date / befriends those who aren't too far from their own age. Sure exceptions exist, but exceptions aren't the general rule.

[wa1t1ngFuture]

it's true that older women think more mature

[wa1t1ngFuture]

I used to often hear about a quote "love doesn't look at age" I used to be honest I didn't care about these words and still said men should be older than women...

but now I think if men are selfish and reject women because they are older even though she really loves that man, it's like refusing a gold...

I also often see old women who seem not interested in older men and only like young men...

it's true that times have changed...

[Asker]

@wa1t1ngFuture simping and double texting gets you no where.

[shaysh87]

@wa1t1ngFuture

The dating market is in favor of young people. There is a biological reason for it. People find younger folks more attractive because younger people produce healthier offspring. We are designed to find young to be attractive

[shaysh87]

@Asker

Sounds like someone is pissed

[wa1t1ngFuture]

so the conclusion

I think if old women like young men it doesn't matter because like I said women age slower...

[zeitgeist057]

I honestly don't usually go for older women, but that 60 year old lady at 0:38 seems totally fun, spunky, and I think she's beautiful also. I'd date a swamp witch, lol :) <3

I don't think it's as black and white as one is good and the other is bad. I think there are a couple points made in video but they are extreme. I think the woman getting offended and the man acting like she needs his approval and permission to go to the bathroom is somewhat justified, and that hits a spot for her personally; maybe another woman would think he's cute or a gentleman or like him being controlling, it's also fine for her to have a boundary about it. Okay, so maybe she's single because her boundaries are set, but that's fine too. Either she'll find someone who fits or she won't, that's her journey. I'm not all wrapped up in these individual examples.

Young women have their pros and cons, and older women do as well. It's all about finding the right fit for yourself personally.

[Avicenna]

Depends what "older" means. I prefer dating women in their 30s, but the main issue for me in dating women that age or older is that they are more likely to be single moms, which is a dealbreaker. But women past childbearing age who are used to being alone may prefer a friends with benefits arrangement rather than a relationship.

Now, if we're talking about guys in their 20s dating women in their 40s, if he's not serious and is just looking for some fun, I don't see a problem with it as long as both parties understand that. I wouldn't have dated a woman that much older than me when I was in my 20s, but if that's who's available and meets your needs, go for it.

[one1wild00]

I'm writing this in American context as a Microcosm of the world's issues think about these points as they apply to your country. With the Us fertility rate in the negative numbers we need to step up the kid production or those of us that are older won't have anyone to take care of us when we are Immobile and bedridden, nor will there be anyone to work and pay into social security that all but the to 10% of Americans use to get by in their "Golden years". Also add in the pandemic and things get even bleaker for the us losing a more people inside 9 months than were lost during the entire 4 years of American involvement in WWII.

[bamesjond0069]

A man with an older woman always has some deep failing. What say I don't know 30 year old man is going to prefer a 35 year old woman over a 25 year old woman? Something is wrong because no man in his right mind prefers that! Something is making him undateable to the young women so he has to go older.

I've met women who are like 40 bitch and moan the older men blah blah issues but they refuse to date a younger man they are like "no im not that desperate" lol

I agree. Im a man so id only date younger. Im not that desperate to ever date an older women. No thanks.

[Snsl153]

"For one they often get more bitter, jaded and numb to dating the older they get..."
Oh, and men don't? :D
Every single day here I come across comments and questions from bitter, jaded old men who hate women because at some point in the past they were rejected by one, or cheated by one. About half the blue people here are either incels or belong to the MGTOW cult.

[ronaldo75]

You just proved the video true lol. And you're only 25. At 40 you're going to be exactly the trainwreck this guy is talking about. Wow.

[Snsl153]

@ronaldo75 I did nothing of the kind "Ronaldo".

[TruthBringer]

Getting mad at men pracitsing their freedom of having an opinion and preference seems to gets you riled up. Despite you also having preferences that no one is allowed to interfere with, no? And truth be told, older women ARE often bitter when it comes to dating. Especially when they become envious of more desirable younger women.

"About half the blue people here are either incels or belong to the MGTOW cult."
Ah yes, the incel insult. Always used by those who's only unit of value they understand is sex.
And before you even try to call me an incel, jokes on you. I'm in a loving relationship with a girl in her early 20s.

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer What you call "men practicing their freedom", I call being a douchebag. It's all very well to have an opinion, but don't pretend for one moment that your own limited experiences with women make you some kind of "expert".
I use the incel insult because many men here in fact are incels; it's obvious. I mean, we get men who are already over the age of 20 asking questions that they should have known the answer to when they were ten. They come across as being hopelessly naive, and many of them even admit to being virgins!

[TruthBringer]

Sorry love, but it means having a preference. Men who prefer not to date older women is a preference. Just like women who prefer to date taller men is also a preference they are free to practise. Just because you don't like a man's preference, doesn't mean he is being a douchebag.
And if you're so hateful towards incels and think that the majority of men on this website are incels, then get off of G@G and find yourself a woman's-only safespace.

And you don't actuallly know if the majority are indeed incels. I've lost count to how many times I've been slammed with "incel" here simply because some pink user dislikes my views and opinions. Despite being in a relationship for years and have a history of dating and sleeping with women. We call that wishful thinking on your end. Learn to accept that not everyone will share your worldviews and people tend to go for what they think is best for them. And if that's something you cannot handle, then cope harder.

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer "Men who prefer not to date older women..."
There are many men here who I would bet haven't dated ANY women, not just older ones. And as for your own personal situation, well, I just don't care. I didn't attack you personally, I simply disagreed with what Mr. Anonymous was saying about women, that we become "bitter and jaded" as we get older, which isn't true.
The amount of misogynistic rubbish masquerading as "wisdom" on this site is simply astonishing, and I have every right to criticise and make fun of it. If you can't handle that, that's your problem, because I'm not going to stop.

[TruthBringer]

Whether you don’t attack me personally is none of my concern. I’m merely addressing your arguments and ad hominem attacks. Whether men here have experience in dating or not, is not relevant as they are entitled to have their preference. It all depends on whether life grants them their prefered woman or not. That’s their problem. Just because they don’t have any experience (given we take your words correct for a second), doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to have an opinion about it for themselves.
Just because you disagree with what OP said, doesn’t make him or men with similar views incels. Just like women who prefer 6 feet and over means they aren’t necessarily bad people or sluts. I may not agree with their preference, but they are entitled to have it.
“The amount of misogynistic rubbish masquerading as "wisdom" on this site is simply astonishing” THEN LEAVE. You sitting here complaining about a website where MEN and women communicate to one another, then just LEAVE. Go find you a forum that suits you better. You have the right to criticize, yet you’re sitting here complaining about something you yourself choose to stick with. That makes you look weak. And we are also free to criticize you on that.
So when you call men here “incels”, then don’t be surprised if you’re going to be slammed as a slut with loose poompoom energy or whatever insult people have. And in my experience, those who always throw around the term “incel” happen to be bitter women with a promiscuous history. Women I don’t respect.

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer No, I'm not leaving, and my comment about "half the blue people either being incels or belonging to the MGTOW cult" is probably accurate.
"... don’t be surprised if you’re going to be slammed as a slut with loose poompoom energy or whatever insult people have. And in my experience, those who always throw around the term “incel” happen to be bitter women with a promiscuous history" - TB
Oh, look who is now indulging in personal "ad hominem" attacks? As I said before, I'll criticise, make fun of and ridicule that which is ridiculous, and the claim that Mr. Anonymous made here was exactly that - ridiculous.
What about this claim of his? - "Lastly, older women will hop on different male hating movements and try to encourage other women in hating men and being single because misery likes company"
That's not an ad hominem attack? Why shouldn't something like this be challenged?
Then there is this load of nonsense - "You are just another dude she has to go out on a date with until she finds one willing to commit to LTR/husband and babies."
Right, because we ALL just want husbands and babies. What a load of utter rubbish!

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer "In my experience", people like you like to say. Well, your own personal experience counts for nought, because isolated anecdotes are not evidence of anything really. Why do so many like to present such stories as though they actually mean anything at all? They do not.

[TruthBringer]

"Oh, look who is now indulging in personal "ad hominem" attacks?"
Learn to read, love. I said that when you're throwing ad hominems, expect people to throw them back at you. Not that I actually did call you these things *facepalm*

“What about this claim of his? “
So you call people “incel” because in YOUR EXPERIENCE and in your mind they happen to be. Yet you invalidate the experience of others? I also witnessed what OP’s said myself. Hence why I agree with him.
“That's not an ad hominem attack?”
Let’s see what an ad hominem attack is: “Attacking the person making the argument rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making”. – Logicallyfallacious. com
What OP did was point out a behavior. In that claim, he didn’t personally attack another person. You on the other hand throwing “iNcEl” around ARE engaging in ad hominem attacks.

“"In my experience", people like you like to say. Well, your own personal experience counts for nought, because isolated anecdotes are not evidence of anything really.”

Funny you say this after the following line you youself made “half the blue people either being incels or belonging to the MGTOW cult" is probably accurate.”
With emphasis on “probably”. So If my personal experience counts for nought, then your mindset in calling people “incel” whenever it pleases you is literally invalidated by yourself ironically. You’re coming here with assumptions and we are supposed to take them as facts, but when it comes to someone else’s observation it is nought? Way to go with the double standards love. You’re not really making a strong case here for yourself. I wonder what the next contradiction and double standards are going to be. Try again.

[TruthBringer]

Playing YOUR game, we shouldn't listen to MGTOW folks or "incels", but why are we supposed to listen to someone who has no issues flashing her ass in yogapants in her profile pic, which clearly screams "I want attention"? Do you not see that this works both ways? I can bet that triggered you a bit. Yet this is exactly how you deal with people. So if you find reasons to disqualify people, then they are also free to do with you.

And by the way, if that's your ass in your profile pic, why do you expose it to "half of these " these "incels" and "MGTOW" men? It's like you are eager for them to look or perhaps even follow/contact you. And if that's not your picture, then you're using someone else's picture without consent?

What is also funny is that I mentioned in my first reply to you that women who throw "incel" around often do not understand any other unit of value other than sex. And sorry to say, but your profile picture is reinforcing this.

[CasaNorba]

lmao a 25 year old female is already making an example of herself here and the fact that she has a picture of her ass as a profile pic is even more of a bigger red flag

[CasaNorba]

@TruthBringer its reinforcing it at a concrete level alright!

I bet the reason why she is calling all men in this site incels is because none of the male here are simp enough to go after that attention she is clearly thirsty after.

I also wouldn't be surprised if that is not her ass either. cause there are a few pink members in this site who are actually dudes pretending to be chicks and love using pics of there favorite porn actress/webcam models as their profile pics. and one thing I notice they all have in common is that they tend to support man hating organizations like feminism

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer Now you're just trying to change the subject. Whether or not I really am just looking for attention is kind of beside the point, don't you think? My original comment was about how I so often come across messages from clearly unhinged men complaining about women, and how women are apparently "all the same". Negative stereotypes, like the belief that we become bitter and jaded as we get older (really? no exceptions to that rule?).
My profile picture is completely irrelevant to this discussion, even if you really do think that it's a sign of self-centred narcissism, because how a person dresses should have no relevance to how they're treated. I'm sure there are many men in the Islamic world, in places like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, who no doubt think western women are whores because their clothing actually reveals their faces. The old argument that, "If you don't want attention, don't dress like a whore" is meaningless, because fashion constantly changes in response to changing ideas within society of what is considered to be "acceptable". Yoga-pants are acceptable. If the two of you don't like that, then you can always buy a one-way ticket to Iran.
The two of you may or may not be "incels", but it is nevertheless the case that you both have issues with women no longer being under the control of men. I've seen your other comments here, and that much is rather obvious. There are other men just like that here on GAG, and I call them incels precisely because it annoys the hell out of them. Get with the times fellas, we're not living in the 13th century anymore. It's called progress, and it's a good thing :)

[Snsl153]

@CasaNorba "Red flag". You probably also use terms and expressions like "alpha (and beta) males", "Chads", and "hitting the wall". Am I correct? If I am correct then you most certainly are at least an MRA (men's rights activist), if not MGTOW or incel. The terminology came from them, so if you use it then what else am I to think of you?

[CasaNorba]

I'm obviously mgtow, and a quick heads up we, MRAs, and incel are not the same thing. mgtow is a philosophy, MRA are a movement and Incel is safe to be called a cult.

just like democrats and socialists aren't the same despite them having similar political view.

[Snsl153]

@CasaNorba Okay, MGTOW. Yes, incels are different in the sense that they still crave female attention, and men who are MGTOW claim they don't need that kind of attention anymore (or say they just don't want it), but... but... no. You see, I've come across men claiming to have gone their own way online so many times that I've actually lost count, and what the vast majority of them have in common is an obsession with women. That's the number one topic of conversation among them. In other words, they have NOT "gone their own way" at all. They're still hanging on.
Now, I could understand, accept and appreciate someone, whether male or female, truly going their own way with all sincerity, because perhaps their relationships just never worked out for some reason, but to PRETEND to have done so deserves nothing but ridicule.
Those who attend MGTOW forums bitch and moan about how awful women are, and they don't even modify their tone by making exceptions to their rule, or admitting that we're people just like them. We're human too.
One of the very few MGTOW men I actually like is 'Better Bachelor' on YouTube. Do you know him? I've actually watched quite a few of his videos, and apparently he has a few thousand female followers as well. He at least makes sense most of the time.

[CasaNorba]

" I've come across men claiming to have gone their own way online so many times that I've actually lost count, and what the vast majority of them have in common is an obsession with women."

yeah typical believe that women who hate us make in order to help them sleep at night. till then if you are a diabetes specialist than its a must that you will have an obsession with blood sugar and insulin.

"appreciate someone, whether male or female, truly going their own way with all sincerity, because perhaps their relationships just never worked out for some reason, but to PRETEND to have done so deserves nothing but ridicule."

again the internet is not real life buddy, just because you see us talking here does not mean we aren't actually going our way in reality

"Those who attend MGTOW forums bitch and moan about how awful women are, and they don't
even modify their tone by making exceptions to their rule, or admitting that we're people just like them. We're human too."

yeah like feminists and women in the west have not been doing the same for more than half a century

"" Do you know him? I've actually watched quite a few of his videos, and apparently he has a few thousand female followers as well. He at least makes sense most of the time."

no he sounds more like a simp, I can see why you and so many women actually love him

[TruthBringer]

@snsl153

“ Now you're just trying to change the subject. Whether or not I really am just looking for attention is kind of beside the point, don't you think?”
- Not really at this point. I’m using YOUR strategy which is bringing irrelevant things to the discussion which in this case is calling men here incels and mgtowers. Please enlighten us to how THAT is relevant to the question being asked by OP? As I said, you’re only contradicting yourself. Because clearly, when your own fallacious strategies are used against you, then you see the flaw in your arguing style.

“My profile picture is completely irrelevant to this discussion, even if you really do think that it's a sign of self-centred narcissism, because how a person dresses should have no relevance to how they're treated. “
- Once again validating what I’m saying. So how is inceldom and mgtow relevant to the discussion but not you seeking attention by reducing yourself to a sexual object in your profile picture?

“ I'm sure there are many men in the Islamic world, in places like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, who no doubt think western women are whores because their clothing actually reveals their faces”
- I love how you complain about bringing irrelevant things and yet you pulled this MASSIVE red herring out of no where. You sure love to bring red herrings into the mess only to dislike it when others do the same. Hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness at their finest.

[TruthBringer]

@snsl153

“ The old argument that, "If you don't want attention, don't dress like a whore" is meaningless,”
-Missed the point it seems. It means that if you’re so keen on disqualifying opinions from so-called “incels”, then we are also allowed to disqualify women like yourself who sexualize themselves. Also, sure you don’t seek attention love. Women themselves call women like you attention seekers. That alone says a lot. Fashion changing is not an excuse to walk around like a sexual object. The whole point about THIS “fashion” IS to pop out your sexuality to the world. And judging from you ‘liking’ every comment giving you validating of your ass, you’re not really making a powerful stance trying to deny that you are seeking attention. We got a saying in Dutch “Maak de kat maar wijs.”. Meaning, you’re not fooling anybody.

“The two of you may or may not be "incels", but it is nevertheless the case that you both have issues with women no longer being under the control of men.”
- I wonder how deep you had to reach to pull that out of your ass. Wishful thinking at its finest. I have a problem with disingenious women like yourself who throw ad hominems around at their convenience only to be screatching when your own poison is used against you.

“I call them incels precisely because it annoys the hell out of them.”
- The reason why you’re calling them incels is exactly because sex is the only thing in life that you seem to understand and try to weaponize that against men. Like I said, your attention-seeking behavior validates it. It seems like you’re stepped on your toes quite hard.

[TruthBringer]

@snsl153

“Get with the times fellas, we're not living in the 13th century anymore. It's called progress, and it's a good thing “
- Funny, this “progressed” you speak about. Because studies show that more traditional mindsets and dynamics like I have seem to work better in relationships and overall happiness than this entirely new dynamic of relationships. I’ll go tell my girlfriend that from now on, things are going to be the “modern” way and watch her leave my ass the next day.

[TruthBringer]

@CasaNorba The fact she denies trying to seek attention with her booty out is a testament that she is disingenious. If we're supposed to overlook the opinions of incels, then I have no issues overlooking the opinions of sluts.

This picture describes women like her perfectly.

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[CasaNorba]

@TruthBringer indeed! is the only unit of value she knows and she's promoting it herself but is not paying her off yet we are the incels.

I swear to God I no longer know if whether I should feel amused or depressed whenever I see women nowadays and ask myself "are these the creatures we are supposed to be breeding with?"

[TruthBringer]

@CasaNorba We're not supposed to respect incels. But I am also taught not to respect attention whores who advertise themselves sexually on the internet. In real life, I've never met a single respectable woman with a good head on her shoulders post provocative pictures of herself online. And the funny thing is, if it wasn't for her calling people "incel", I wouldn't even be bringing that to the equation. But clearly, she doesn't like it when she gets a taste of her own medicine.

Women like her make me appreciate my girlfriend even more.

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer The two of you seem utterly incapable of even engaging with the very basic points I made in my last two comments here. You're still going on about me being some kind of "attention-seeker".
You say, "... taught not to respect attention whores who advertise themselves sexually on the internet. In real life, I've never met a single respectable woman with a good head on her shoulders post provocative pictures of herself online."
You think my picture is "provocative"? Wow, you've really lived a sheltered existence, haven't you? I see women every day wear what you see me wearing in that photo. If you think it's provocative, then you must be a 17th century Puritan.
In any case, and like I said before, what I'm wearing in my profile picture is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the points I've been making here with the two of you, but for some reason (s) you just can't seem to understand that.
Well, I won't bother anymore, because this discussion is pointless.

[Snsl153]

@TruthBringer "Women like her make me appreciate my girlfriend even more."
Yeah, sure, you have a "girlfriend". An inflatable one. I've seen your other comments here, and there is no way in HELL that any girl with any self-respect or intelligence would go out with someone like you, and yes, this IS an 'ad hominem' attack, but I don't care anymore, because the two of you are among the densest people I have ever met online.

[CasaNorba]

"I see women every day wear what you see me wearing in that photo. If you think it's provocative, then you must be a 17th century Puritan."

dude I think you're the one who's sheltered here. nobody is jabbing what you're wearing, its what you are EXHIBITING. of course anyone can wear whatever they want out in public, however when you post a picture of YOUR ASS covered or not on a social site then you're obviously gonna send the wrong signal.

[TruthBringer]

@snsl153 I love how now you're getting mad at the very same strategy you're using against others. At least we know now that you don't like the taste of your own medicine. And I just love how people like yourself try to cope with the cognitive dissonance by denying that the other person cannot be in a loving relationship with a mindset you don't agree with. Goes to show how shallow and narrow your world views are.

[TruthBringer]

"In any case, and like I said before, what I'm wearing in my profile picture is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the points I've been making here with the two of you, but for some reason (s) you just can't seem to understand that."
- Coming from the person who brings involuntary celebacy to the formula which in itself has no relevancy with the topic the question is based on. And yet we're the "dense" ones. No wonder you resort to ad hominem attacks, because you obviously are intellectually incapable to produce a valid counter argument beyond your black-white world views.

"inflatable girlfriend"
- LMFAO If believing this helps you sleep at night, then I'll be glad to play along in pretending, sweetheart.

[CasaNorba]

@TruthBringer she can't accept the fact you got someone who has way more valuable units than her 😂😂😂

[TruthBringer]

@CasaNorba And neither feels the need to flash her ass win yogapants with her underwear showing on social media trying to gain attention and followers from the very same cmmunity she bashes 😂

[lightbulb27]

great theories... no, didn't watch all. That's bs. sometimes they have things sorted out. you'd be surprised how many women haven't had that much experience, little dating or lost husband/divorce.

often young ones are most difficult if they don't know themselves, haven't worked on themselves, not stable, lack experience in relationship and emotional security.

Geez, give women a break. they're humans.

Anyone can be an emotional project.

[sawno]

Yes because limited fertility is a thing. So the older the quicker you need to rush into having kids if you want them. While with men that is not a concern. Its the main reason i would not have considered a 35 year old for example. Ultimately whenever you meet the one you meet the one and the girl i fell in love with is younger than me. But if i had been dating i'd be dating down so there is no kids rush and we can focus on a stable relationship and living situation first.

[Reaper1985]

females 40+ that let themselves go and/or don't even do the minimum. to maintain their body and/or mind tend to be a lost cause in my book. not saying they need to look like a model though. however the ones who at least try to make an effort tend to be worthwhile. but it really depends on how much baggage she has from how her life went so far.

[Pejtu]

If im 28 now and lets say I've met a good looking 35 y old women who wants to have some fun with a younger dude because she is bored with her sex life with her husband who she is divorcing or she is single at the moment or whatever the reason is

Ye i will be down to fuck a few times or regurally for a year or 2 but nothing more im not gonna go into a relationship with her or think about future with her at all

[ArtemisSilver]

Depends on the woman, but there's usually some baggage going on or behavioural problems.

Sometimes you just find a widow or career woman looking to slow down though. So really you've just got to play it by ear.

What I will say is that a lot of older women are a bit out of touch in terms of relationship expectations, and should be prepaired to bring a bit more to the relationship if they are hoping for a quality man.

[MCheetah]

Not necessarily. That sounds more like a b*tch problem than an age problem.
My counterargument:

Salma Hayek at 56.

[ChiTown33]

And married to a French B-B-B-Billionaire. 😆

[genericname85]

whether something is "good" or "bad" entirely depends on your subjective priorities and goals. you can not rightfully make such a broad objecitve statement as you did in your question.

[Asker]

if we use this logic we can never agree on anything

[genericname85]

well if you don't want to use logic, you can't agree with someone that uses logic. that's true.

[Asker]

I like how your pride and egotism shows in your response.

[genericname85]

so now you're personally attacking me and my character to invalidate my argument that is completely distinct from my character and from my person. that's not how you invalidate arguments. that's how you offend people. not how you have a civil discussion. i will choose to not be offended.

[genericname85]

so what happened in this conversation is that you talked yourself into a corner that's really hard to get out of. there's 2 ways to get out of it. 1: you'll take a step back, take a look at your mode of communication and correct what you did. or 2: you'll try to furtherr attack me personally. i have a guess as to what you're gonna do. let's see if you can surprise me.

[Asker]

Let me break it down for you what actual happens

1. You come in and attempt to give a sort of psuedo intellectual/pc answer of how we should look at this on a case by case scenario.

2. You are told that kind of logic will lead to no conclusion ever being reached in a practical real world setting. Hell even scientist create theories/laws that don't hold up for all scenarios.

3. You become prideful and defensive and claim your way of thinking is logical and my own is not

4. You get called out on this behavior

5. Comes back even more defensive and proceeds to play the victim/moral high ground card by saying I have attacked u without provocation but you will be the bigger man and not attack.

6. Still feeling salty and now closing statement decide, you puff out your chest and act like you've backed me into some kind of corner and I am just lashing back at you. Keep in mind you have no actual argument or stance on the matter.

7. You now will undoubtedly read this response and reply back just so you can have the last words. Further providing my point that it's all pride and ego to you. No one is impressed man.

[genericname85]

yup option 2 then. sorry i'm not interested in some sort of rhetorical dick measuring contest. cya.

[Asker]

bye bye. Thanks for wasting everyone time.

[genericname85]

i was interested in talking about the topic you asked about. not about myself.

[CasaNorba]

yea, lets not forget that a lot of the time older women who go after younger dudes do it because they know that younger dudes are easier to manipulate. this to me is very conniving shit to do if you ask me

[wa1t1ngFuture]

my girlfriend is older than me lol but her mind is still immature.

I used to not like older girls but then I thought that age doesn't matter as long as it's not too far away.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@wa1t1ngfuture
How old is she?

[wa1t1ngFuture]

19 man

[litty]

Sounds like you are ageist. People can date whoever they want to date. It's like telling people they are too old to be watching cartoons. If a 60 year old is looking to have fun with a 20 year old, who are you to stop them?

[zagor]

Spouting some lame cliches doesn't make going for older women a bad idea. The whole idea that "All (available) older women are X" is just stupid. People vary enormously even if the same age, gender, ethnicity, etc.

[AviatorTom]

No, an older woman can teach a younger man several things. And, depending on her age, there may be no risk of pregnancy.

[Whatever2929292]

If you are talking about really old then I can see a problem but not just older

[FilmGuy93]

It's not so much a "bad idea" as it is just unlikely to work. Older women tend not to go for younger men.

[Berethor]

In most cases yea, that's why most men prefer young women.

[Straight2thepoint]

No. It's actually what a guy needs. they aren't going to bs u with emotional stuff. They are straightforward. And as for her. Ur young self is what she needs.

[Kaamraj]

It depends on what the man wants if it's something short term and non-serious than sure.

[Drumlin2001]

I started dating a 40yr old (when I was 36), hasn't been bad for me. We're engaged and have 2 kids

[SynthKobra]

I mean for a serious relationship, yea. But when it's established that it's just casual sex it can be fun.

[Jamie05rhs]

I disagree. I think that mature women are delightful. They are so much better to talk to! They actually have DEPTH!

[LimitedBenefits101]

yep 100% they all part of the " 304 " club

also a lot of women forget their time is over once they hit 30.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@LimitedBenefits101
So you're saying my girfriend who is 13(12 years 8 months 5 days) older than me is a hoe. I completely disagree. We have been together for 8 years 8 months.
What makes you think all women are done when they hit the age of 30?

[Bridgettebaeb01]

Older women with much younger men are just flat out desperate cougars.
Women should go with guys who are older in my opinion but couples that are more than 5 years apart are sus.

[Slim57]

That's stupid, it's just an age, and it really doesn't matter or affect you whatsoever and you shouldn't care if it's 2 adults

[Bridgettebaeb01]

@Slim57 idrc what you think but clearly you care bout my opinion 😂 sorry snowflake

[Bridgettebaeb01]

@Slim57 all I did was answer the question but okay...🥱

[Slim57]

You took the time to reply with not one but 2 comments but okay. I don't really care either honestly, I've dated mostly older women and now I'm dating a younger, there's really no difference, but you haters are all ignorant about it so it's whatever

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@Slim57 maybe Oedipus complex but as far as I know the average man will reject older women

[wa1t1ngFuture]

oedipus complex>>> men who like older womenoedipus complex>>> men who like older women @Slim57

[Slim57]

That's definitely not what it is, I'm not into my parents

[wa1t1ngFuture]

Oedipus complex not only likes their mother but also other older women, you may be surprised president emanuel macron his wife is his own teacher, his wife is 24 years older than macron..

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@Slim57 as men we will usually reject older women

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@wa1t1ngFuture doesn't mean older women like older men. Society is changing. There are more and more women who prefer guys younger than they are.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@wa1t1ngFuture this is me actually speaking from experience. And let me tell you, she did better than most younger ones I had.

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 lol i used to dislike older women lol i would have turned it down lol but now i have a girlfriend who is older than me
😂...

that's the funny thing about life... actually I also agree that people say the reason they choose young men is because they have more attractive physique and strong stamina in sex... and some of the reasons are because they don't want to be widows because on average women live long while men do not.

[shaysh87]

@Slim57

you can't grow old with someone who is already old. If you're 40 and you're married to a 60 yr old senior citizen, you won't be happy. Besides, vast majority of people date and marry others close to their own age because similar ages mean having more things in common.

[shaysh87]

@wa1t1ngFuture

Young guys under 40 will always be more attractive than old guys. But it all depends on whether the woman can "get" someone younger than her. Typically guys prefer younger women.

[Slim57]

@shaysh87 of course you can, women outlive men even if they're a lot older usually, and if not you can always find someone else, and well I don't have much in common with my own generation whatsoever, I actually despise them, I prefer traditional things, music, cars, values, so I find myself getting along with older people much easier than younger, but even so, that doesn't mean I'm opposed to dating younger, my girlfriend is 3 years younger than me now, first girlfriend I've had that was younger than me, you can choose your own way of happiness even if it's different from most other people's way.

[shaysh87]

@Slim57

3 years younger or older will not make a difference. However if your partner is 13-20 years older, then that would be something to be more concerned about. Statistics shows the larger the age gap, the shorter the marriage. And it makes a lot of sense. Imagine you are 40 years old (where you still have a lot of energy) being married to a 60 yr old senior citizen. Your spouse may not sexually fulfill you. You might no longer be attracted to your spouse. When you want to go out to do things, he /she may want to go to bed early or stay home. And its only a matter of time you become a "nurse " to your spouse , at a very young age.

Sure you can stay married to serve your spouse even when the golden days are over, but are you truly happy? i doubt it.

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@shaysh87 To be honest, I wasn't attracted to older women from the start. but my boyfriend is different he has something unique by the way I am 17 he is 19-20. for me the maximum age is 3 years younger or older

[wa1t1ngFuture]

Sory i mean my girlfriend... iam not gay/bisex... typing error

[wa1t1ngFuture]

I'm charging and it's when charging, the keyboard is definitely an error

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@shaysh87 by the way a lot, old women (over 35) nowadays get younger men. Many men today are attracted because they perceive older women as more mature and feel challenged/wanted to feel different than most people.

I think it's also good because women take longer to age and live longer so looking for a younger man is right choice.

[shaysh87]

@wa1t1ngFuture

Actually plenty of older women in their 40s-50s want younger men in their 30s. But reality is its uncommon for guys go for older women. So a lot of older women end up dating old guys they aren't attracted to.

I dont support huge age gap relationships due to the fact that you can't grow old with someone who is already old. Its only a matter of time when the breakup will happen or the younger party end up settling for a subpar marriage for the rest of their lives.

And there are a lot of indecent old guys out there who target dating young girls as young as their daughters because they have nicer bodies and tighter pussies and also more naive so its easier for him to manipulate her.

[shaysh87]

@wa1t1ngFuture

I have literally came across 40 yr old guys who insist on only dating teenage girls. And these teen girls are naive enough to believe that he's actually dating her because he likes her. But when you take a look at his dating history, he's just a fuckboi with a long series of very short term Relationships dating women 18-22 , which last anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months. Its not surprising how none of those relationships last. How much would a 40 yr old have in common with a 20 yr old?

[wa1t1ngFuture]

@shaysh87 if I become a 30 year old man and get a 50 year old woman I may not want to.. but if a 40 year old woman I will.

[Anonymous]

Dating an older woman is like paying full price for a car with over 100k miles on it. You just don't do it.

[Anonymous]

There may be some truth in that but I don't think it's a significant issue because guy generally go for women their age or younger while women usually go for men their age or older.

[Anonymous]

I stopped paying attention once the girl with the nice tits in the black bikini disappeared. What was the main point of the rest of it?

[Anonymous]

Older women are very opinionated, and jaded and have an agenda. Younger women seem happier and aren't jaded but are playing games. If only life life was simpler with women, lol

[Pterodon]

Cougars are fun. I’ve been with a few when I was younger

[Luckycharms12]

No not at all age is number if both click why not go for it.

[dolemite89]

ya women past a certain age are usually bitter and not even fun to be around 😂

[SevilleJuan]

Yes and it is bad for older man to be looking at younger women.

[Anonymous]

I don't like old women.

It's like why would I eat the leftover if I have fresh food.

[MagicCarpet1]

Yes because I am dating your mother right now.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Don't even need to watch it. Darius is a clown.

[RebeccaSJ]

No, I'm 6 years older than hubby.

[Anonymous]

yes we know about the red pill

[Slim57]

No why would it be?