Everybody cries.. Or should... Just because some ignorant people try to make someone feel weak... Again it's usually jealousy.. The can only feel better putting others down mentality 🤷🏼♀️ and no I don't deal with that.. But I've seen a lot of people do that on here... Strength and character is what truly makes a person "real"
What is degrading is making men feel like they can not cry or show their emotions. That is what breeds incels, assholes and those guys who kill themselves. Men are more likely to commit suicide not women.
Lol no there questions and takes about "real" men or " masculine" men or if men should cry blah blah... But have had lots tell me they have and why... That don't make them less... That makes them "more"...
Yeah to me... Cuz a "real" person is themselves not matter what anyone else says... Sometimes the real strength lies in recognizing/admitting your weaknesses...
Strong or weak, right or wrong, totally irrelevant. Is a man still attractive to a woman who has seen him breakdown and cry? No. Ergo men don't cry. Men not showing their emotions is a consequence of women's behaviour not ours.
Oh that's bull... My husband barely cried over 20 years cuz if that bull mentality. But when he was diagnosed and dying, I saw him tear up/cry when our kids were singing in a choir. Was it because they sounded so beautiful? Or perhaps maybe because he was crying for all those moments he knew he'd miss/not be there for in their life. Did I think less of him... Hell NO.. thought even more. And he was definitely one of the strongest men I've ever known, not just physically but by the strength of his character. And there may be women who put men who cry down, but there's many more who don't/wouldn't. And it was men who taught men it's not manly to cry not women... So guess can't pin this one just on women 🤷🏼♀️
Bull Shit. I encourage my man to cry because he needs to. He's been through so much hard shit. When he cries, I cry right there with him while holding his hand. I love him regardless. He is still a man regardless. He's attractive to me regardless. If anything, he's more manly than half the men out there because they refuse to show their crying side which tells me they're mindless drones playing into social norms rather than being true to themselves.
The thing that is far more masculine to me is not being afraid to cry. If a man is afraid to cry because he's afraid of judgement, so much for being a man. He's just a coward who's afraid to stray away from the herd of man sheep who drone on and on about how "hurr real men don't cry that's a bitch thing"
It's sexist, offensive and the most disgusting thing anybody could do to a man. And any woman who imposes that standard isn't a real woman, they are also a brainless drone who adheres to social norms rather than promote a man to be himself.
Well don't preach to me about it, go preach to your sisters that they need to start finding men attractive when they cry. Maybe they'll listen to you without ridiculing you (unlikely as most women who bring this up are dismissed as having internalised misogyny). Being upset about the statistics aren't useful, we have no need for your sympathy we need your solutions.
We need people to be able to have discussions without insulting people... And asshat assumptions... No woman I know feels that way... So where are you getting your "facts" from? A few idiots doesn't the majority make 🤷🏼♀️
Statistics. There are actually some interesting studies on brain responses to others emotions. This isn't about how women feel or will admit they feel or think they feel. It's about the statistically significant outcome to the scenario. Maybe women are lying, maybe it's subconscious, maybe it's pheromonal, maybe there's a magic fairy involved. I don't know but I also don't care, the reason isn't important to me only the result.
I think it's the latter. I don't know a single woman who shames men for crying. Not saying they don't exist. After all there's almost 8 billion people in the world.
@RydiaMagnifique again agree with you.. Just "another" man trying to blame "women" for everything 🤷🏼♀️ wish they'd stop using my posts for that.. I don't believe in blaming a whole gender... Treat each person according to "that individual" not a gender 🤷🏼♀️ but you get it 👍👍♥️🙂
And I've never said they do "shame men for crying"... Shame men for complaining about how women respond to them crying? sure I've mentioned that. But not directly shaming men for the act itself (I'm almost experiencing that right now though I'd say your more gaslighting me by calling my points "Bull" rather than shaming)
They are distinct things. How women respond to men crying was an observation and a cause and effect analysis. How women respond to men highlighting that there is an issue there was a moral judgement. I'm not moving the goalposts, I'm just able to talk about two related but separate topics at the same time.
But you're not making points.. You're making assumptions.. You have not 1, but 2 women on this thread saying they don't believe/feel/treat men that way... Hardly think we're the only two... And gaslighting? Let's not forget who called who a unicorn, which yeah had removed, cuz done being insulted that people that can't converse without throwing shade...
Is unicorn an insult? I'm not American I can't keep up, I was just saying that you being different doesn't change what is normal. 1 anecdote or 2 now ok is statistically irrelevant. It's not like I'm happy about the statistics but our instincts are beyond our control, no matter how much we as individuals want to be moral our species and evolution care about what is successful and nothing else.
You keep quoting "statistics" which 1- ain't seen other than you saying it's so, which don't make it so sand 2- real life trumps "statistics that aren't always accurate... But ok agree to disagree... Again maybe it's all about who you associate with 🤷🏼♀️
That is not true if you cry at the drop of a hat about anything all of the time no one is attracted to that but it relative o also think that a woman feels shut out if her man never expressed an emotion to her like he won't let her in so that is a turn off as well right?
Who told you that? My husband has cried in front of me and I thought it was very brave of him to show me that kind of real emotion. I think higher of men who are genuine.
Maybe the demographic statistics are wrong and you few individuals represent the real secret desire of women... For now though I'll stick with statistically significant datasets as sources of information. Best of luck to you though, shift the trends enough and you might even make relationships a statistically good investment.
I agree. I didn't come up with the rules on divorce, separation and partner dependency rights though. Whether you want it to be or not, it is an investment.
u can't deny a man (above 18) crying doesn't look at least slight gay? men should not cry... maybe if ur under the age of 11... then ok cry ahead... but a full grown man... with beard and testicles... jus looks pathetic and faggy crying... thats jus how it is, end of story
Really? My hubby was a physically built manly man and strong and rarely cried. But when he knew he was dying, the sight of our girls and his nieces and nephew singing in their choir brought him to tears. Did he look gay or weak? No, he looked like a man crying for all the tomorrows he'd never see... That's why you people need to just stop... Have that opinion for YOURSELF... Stop judging others when you don't know their story/their life!
well im not really talking about that, although id never cry at someones death.. its fine for him to cry at someones death, maybe he's jus a lot more emotional and caring than me... but i wasn't really talking about that, im talking about making guys cry as much as girls do... over anything... over a girl not liking you... over getting insulted... getting a buzz on the x factor... i jus mean if guys cried the same way and amount of times little girls cry... thats pretty fucking gay in my opinion... ur husband can cry at that by all means, im not judging
oh yea, i remember u saying he cried at his own dying now, jus forget after i read reading all that, probably cos i didn't care about the who and what so much
Not your place to care... My whole point! Stay out of other people's emotions... Worry bout "your own" ... only man you should worry bout if they a strong or weak man is yourself!
never said i care, i jus think guys that cry a lot are gay n feminine... can't help but make judgements... i never share my thoughts in real life, i keep them in my head, i let feminine guys all they want... but since we're on the internet, why not share my thoughts on cry baby guys? lol
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Very true. Crying is part of our nature. When we hurt, crying should be expressed.
I agree 💯
It should be ok to cry but I don't feel the empathy when I do.
Sorry for that... But I think people these days have less empathy anyways unless it directly affects them
When ever you feel the need to. We are not your emotional judge and jury
I do. But there is people that act like judge and jury if a man should cry. Or he's not macho and all that. Or a wuss...
I know they're called Neanderthals
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It is good to cry, because you express your feelings towards that person. X
To release so many buckled up emotions
Exactly! 🙂
Thank you, this was nice to read :)
Thank you! 🤗🙂
You didn't mention orgasm cry
Well, didn't mention it directly but think that falls under:
"Sometimes we can be so moved by love or a special moment in life "
👍🏻..
When I tell a story , it is so bad , people cry.
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Same here Lol.
I did this for awhile during my depression.
Everybody cries.. Or should... Just because some ignorant people try to make someone feel weak... Again it's usually jealousy.. The can only feel better putting others down mentality 🤷🏼♀️ and no I don't deal with that.. But I've seen a lot of people do that on here... Strength and character is what truly makes a person "real"
What is degrading is making men feel like they can not cry or show their emotions. That is what breeds incels, assholes and those guys who kill themselves. Men are more likely to commit suicide not women.
I agree and I've seen men and women on here do that... That's why did this take
You have seen them cry? 😮
Lol no there questions and takes about "real" men or " masculine" men or if men should cry blah blah... But have had lots tell me they have and why... That don't make them less... That makes them "more"...
Makes them more of a man to cry? 😗
Yeah to me... Cuz a "real" person is themselves not matter what anyone else says... Sometimes the real strength lies in recognizing/admitting your weaknesses...
No wonder you like elephant man. 😮
Wait lmao what that got to do with it 🤔😂😂
You admitted to it. Too late!! 😂
🤣🤣 I did? Lol ok lol
Just teasing lol
I know don't worry don't getting my panties in a bunch... Oh wait... Don't wear any 😱🤣🤣
Nice 😏
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I think it's okay for a man to cry
I agree... I think it's ok for "anyone' to cry!
Cuz it lets the boo hoo's out! 😥
🙂🙂 lol
Seeing someone cry gives me the urge to hug
That's a nice thing to say
Is true
Because the feelings come out by this
Feelings are supposed to come out.. Not be bottled up ♥️🙂
Yeah may be
Take the upsides and downsides.
I guess my life isn't a complete lie
bc it lets out all the pain inside you
And we all need to release it
Strong or weak, right or wrong, totally irrelevant. Is a man still attractive to a woman who has seen him breakdown and cry? No. Ergo men don't cry.
Men not showing their emotions is a consequence of women's behaviour not ours.
Oh that's bull... My husband barely cried over 20 years cuz if that bull mentality. But when he was diagnosed and dying, I saw him tear up/cry when our kids were singing in a choir. Was it because they sounded so beautiful? Or perhaps maybe because he was crying for all those moments he knew he'd miss/not be there for in their life. Did I think less of him... Hell NO.. thought even more. And he was definitely one of the strongest men I've ever known, not just physically but by the strength of his character. And there may be women who put men who cry down, but there's many more who don't/wouldn't. And it was men who taught men it's not manly to cry not women... So guess can't pin this one just on women 🤷🏼♀️
Bull
Shit.
I encourage my man to cry because he needs to. He's been through so much hard shit. When he cries, I cry right there with him while holding his hand. I love him regardless. He is still a man regardless. He's attractive to me regardless. If anything, he's more manly than half the men out there because they refuse to show their crying side which tells me they're mindless drones playing into social norms rather than being true to themselves.
The thing that is far more masculine to me is not being afraid to cry. If a man is afraid to cry because he's afraid of judgement, so much for being a man. He's just a coward who's afraid to stray away from the herd of man sheep who drone on and on about how "hurr real men don't cry that's a bitch thing"
It's sexist, offensive and the most disgusting thing anybody could do to a man. And any woman who imposes that standard isn't a real woman, they are also a brainless drone who adheres to social norms rather than promote a man to be himself.
@RydiaMagnifique♥️♥️ Exactly! Agree 💯×2👍👍🙂🤗
Well don't preach to me about it, go preach to your sisters that they need to start finding men attractive when they cry. Maybe they'll listen to you without ridiculing you (unlikely as most women who bring this up are dismissed as having internalised misogyny). Being upset about the statistics aren't useful, we have no need for your sympathy we need your solutions.
We need people to be able to have discussions without insulting people... And asshat assumptions... No woman I know feels that way... So where are you getting your "facts" from? A few idiots doesn't the majority make 🤷🏼♀️
Statistics. There are actually some interesting studies on brain responses to others emotions.
This isn't about how women feel or will admit they feel or think they feel. It's about the statistically significant outcome to the scenario. Maybe women are lying, maybe it's subconscious, maybe it's pheromonal, maybe there's a magic fairy involved. I don't know but I also don't care, the reason isn't important to me only the result.
Again... Bull... Or maybe you just know the wrong women 🤷🏼♀️
I think it's the latter. I don't know a single woman who shames men for crying. Not saying they don't exist. After all there's almost 8 billion people in the world.
@RydiaMagnifique again agree with you.. Just "another" man trying to blame "women" for everything 🤷🏼♀️ wish they'd stop using my posts for that.. I don't believe in blaming a whole gender... Treat each person according to "that individual" not a gender 🤷🏼♀️ but you get it 👍👍♥️🙂
And I've never said they do "shame men for crying"... Shame men for complaining about how women respond to them crying? sure I've mentioned that. But not directly shaming men for the act itself (I'm almost experiencing that right now though I'd say your more gaslighting me by calling my points "Bull" rather than shaming)
Ugh. Im done. First it was how women treat men for crying. Now the problem is how women respond to men who complain about it.
Moving the goalpost is a great way to win an argument but not how you convince someone you're right. I'm done. 🖖
They are distinct things. How women respond to men crying was an observation and a cause and effect analysis. How women respond to men highlighting that there is an issue there was a moral judgement.
I'm not moving the goalposts, I'm just able to talk about two related but separate topics at the same time.
But you're not making points.. You're making assumptions.. You have not 1, but 2 women on this thread saying they don't believe/feel/treat men that way... Hardly think we're the only two... And gaslighting? Let's not forget who called who a unicorn, which yeah had removed, cuz done being insulted that people that can't converse without throwing shade...
Is unicorn an insult? I'm not American I can't keep up, I was just saying that you being different doesn't change what is normal. 1 anecdote or 2 now ok is statistically irrelevant. It's not like I'm happy about the statistics but our instincts are beyond our control, no matter how much we as individuals want to be moral our species and evolution care about what is successful and nothing else.
Heck you think if we could use morality to reprogram our instincts men would find thin high maintenance need women attractive?
You keep quoting "statistics" which 1- ain't seen other than you saying it's so, which don't make it so sand 2- real life trumps "statistics that aren't always accurate... But ok agree to disagree... Again maybe it's all about who you associate with 🤷🏼♀️
Real life doesn't trump statistics... Otherwise casinos wouldn't make any money.
As for studies, there's usually no point because of pay walls but ok, most of these are studying emotional effects on job prospects for men (if you need studies to show how job prospects effect relationship success I can grab those too, that is way more studied):
www.sciencedirect.com/.../S1048984315000223 www.sciencedirect.com/.../S0749597815302521 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-27429-001 www.sciencedirect.com/.../S1048984315000600
That is not true if you cry at the drop of a hat about anything all of the time no one is attracted to that but it relative o also think that a woman feels shut out if her man never expressed an emotion to her like he won't let her in so that is a turn off as well right?
Who told you that? My husband has cried in front of me and I thought it was very brave of him to show me that kind of real emotion. I think higher of men who are genuine.
@Felicityoyo I agree 💯
Felicityoyo
@Felicityoyo agreed. I love it when my man cries. It makes me happy that he can Express such an intimate emotion in front of me.
Maybe the demographic statistics are wrong and you few individuals represent the real secret desire of women...
For now though I'll stick with statistically significant datasets as sources of information. Best of luck to you though, shift the trends enough and you might even make relationships a statistically good investment.
There's your problem... Relationships shouldn't be an "investment"...
I agree. I didn't come up with the rules on divorce, separation and partner dependency rights though.
Whether you want it to be or not, it is an investment.
So this just came out. https://youtu.be/rtJLYN1fxGw
Nice coincidence to roll a conversation like this up into something short and easy to digest.
well put
Thank you ♥️🙂
With the exception of funerals crying is not ok. Your an adult handle your shit
Oh that's bull..
Bullshit
@Felicityoyo right!!!
maybe for girls its ok to cry, but as a 22yr old man, its definitely fucking not ok for me to cry... i dont wanna look like a sissy
u can't deny a man (above 18) crying doesn't look at least slight gay?
men should not cry... maybe if ur under the age of 11... then ok cry ahead... but a full grown man... with beard and testicles... jus looks pathetic and faggy crying... thats jus how it is, end of story
Really? My hubby was a physically built manly man and strong and rarely cried. But when he knew he was dying, the sight of our girls and his nieces and nephew singing in their choir brought him to tears. Did he look gay or weak? No, he looked like a man crying for all the tomorrows he'd never see... That's why you people need to just stop... Have that opinion for YOURSELF... Stop judging others when you don't know their story/their life!
well im not really talking about that, although id never cry at someones death.. its fine for him to cry at someones death, maybe he's jus a lot more emotional and caring than me... but i wasn't really talking about that,
im talking about making guys cry as much as girls do... over anything... over a girl not liking you... over getting insulted... getting a buzz on the x factor... i jus mean if guys cried the same way and amount of times little girls cry... thats pretty fucking gay in my opinion... ur husband can cry at that by all means, im not judging
over breaking ur long fake nails... guys crying at that... gay
Apparently you don't read... My husband died, so he ain't crying
oh yea, i remember u saying he cried at his own dying now, jus forget after i read reading all that, probably cos i didn't care about the who and what so much
jus forgot*
Not your place to care... My whole point! Stay out of other people's emotions... Worry bout "your own" ... only man you should worry bout if they a strong or weak man is yourself!
never said i care, i jus think guys that cry a lot are gay n feminine... can't help but make judgements...
i never share my thoughts in real life, i keep them in my head, i let feminine guys all they want... but since we're on the internet, why not share my thoughts on cry baby guys? lol
Internet is still real life.. You still dealing with real people duh