Read the history of your movement first then write about it.
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It doesn't matter what the word feminism means in the dictionary when the most vocal people who call themselves feminists conduct themselves differently otherwise.
@maskedSanity Your argument would be valid if the Westboro baptist church was in fact the norm for Christianity, just like extremism is the norm for Feminism. Do you actually know anything about Feminism, their ideological dogma or their most powerful organizations and figures?
Extremism is not the norm for any movement, including feminism. However, I'm not arguing for or against feminism. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in anon's statement.
@MaskedSanity As much as I enjoy a good straw man, do not pretend like the extremists in your movement are powerless on the fringes, the are at the CORE running the movement! And if you are so appalled by them what has the feminist movement done to stop them?
You know actually stop them instead of trying to say "we all aren't like that join us anyway."
@MaskedSanity I won’t even bother addressing those childish analogies unless there is a good reason to.
In the modern day of western societies, the “loudmouths” you speak of are the ones spearheading the so-called third wave, whose actions reflect the likes of oppressive fanatics/crybabies as opposed to a movement advocating equal rights/basic decency (on top of whatever else they claim to stand for). In short, the cause and effect have changed the definition as we (who live comfortably in the western world) see it that it is starting to have a different meaning for different people in the world.
@maskedSanity sure it can be, it just depends on your frame of reference, in this case we are using the position that equal treatment or a lack of discrimination based on gender is the measuring stick. Against that standard Feminism is an extremist movement, you just have to examine their ideologies and practices for that to become abundantly clear.
@spuitkaas If its ok to show emotion why is it when we men do we are attacked called rapists and told that we only want sex from women? You know from FEMINISTS. It is just another example of the hypocrisy of the feminist movement.
@genuinlysensitive You're called being a rapist when you show emotion? That doesn't make sense. Like if a guy cries, he must be a rapist. I think you mean the feminazi, what this take mentioned.
@genuinlysensitive I've read it, but I think there's a miscommunication, because you didn't use punctuation. Try again and I'll try to give an opinion.
I've yet to see any feminists, even good ones discuss men's issues in any serious manner. Where solving the men's issue was actually the goal. It's never gone past, "we expect too much of men. Let's stop, ok? Ok. We've "solved" that problem. Let's go on to the next women's issue." Then they talk about the things they're physically going to do to solve their problems.
I'm not saying they're bad people, but they simply do not take men's issues seriously and they certainly don't fight for them. Otherwise we would hear about it.
me too. the 20th century feminism is being applied in the arabic countries, which is good. but the feminism in the USA is just terrible. AND it is giving a wrong idea about women
Can you please have a word with all of the television producers and personnel. Even the "feminists" on television are typically "feminazi" Its driving me crazy!
That is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my entire life. The fact that they are teaching these girls to be like this is disgraceful and horrible. 1 in 5 girls are raped omg... Its horrible the thought of even teaching my daughter to think like this. I understand the world is fucked up and I will make her aware, but never would I expect anyone to uphold such a filthy attitude. : (
This is just more propaganda for the feminist cause. They never have and never will to anything to stop the radicals they "pretend" to hate because they are the bosses. They run the show. The best they can do is say "not all feminists are like that join us anyway!"
TL;DR.. If u live in the west (/first world country) & you're a feminist. Then that would make you a feminazi.. If you live in a 2nd or 3rd world country & you're a feminist. Then congratulations! You're a true/real feminist! :D!!!
why though? in old movies it was very normal to hit women. now in those movies it is funny to hit guys, but people still fuss about it as if it a bad thing to do and think the old movies were funny
@notgoodwithnames In today's world it is very normal and accepted to hit men... and violently. You see it tv, in movies, in ads, etc. Why is that ok? There is zero push back to stop this, it is accepted, it is "funny", no one makes a fuss about it. What happened in old movies is irrelevant today, and in today's world you will NOT see a male hit a female in media unless it is to push propaganda or the character is a "monster" of a human being.
Where do you see that it is accepted to hit men? Please state this with facts or a scientific article that tells me this has become more accepted, because I haven't heard about this or anyone telling me this except people on this site.
I've never met a feminist or seen a post about feminists even acknowledging male issues. Modern feminism exists to further women. In most legal cases women have more rights then men.
Social connotations of post-modernist feminism versus modernist feminism.
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Exactly!!! Tho also there are a few male femiNazi's who think if women want equality they should all be equal to each other and men by having breast reduction surgery
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Feminism was always a radical movement.
Read the history of your movement first then write about it.
It doesn't matter what the word feminism means in the dictionary when the most vocal people who call themselves feminists conduct themselves differently otherwise.
Cool beans.
Going by that logic, ALL Christians are like Westboro Baptist church, ALL Muslims support ISIS, ALL Indians are rapists and so forth.
Since being a loudmouth constitutes representation, I shall also assume all men are stupid because you just said something retarded. :3
@maskedSanity Your argument would be valid if the Westboro baptist church was in fact the norm for Christianity, just like extremism is the norm for Feminism. Do you actually know anything about Feminism, their ideological dogma or their most powerful organizations and figures?
@Jager66
Extremism is not the norm for any movement, including feminism.
However, I'm not arguing for or against feminism. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in anon's statement.
@MaskedSanity As much as I enjoy a good straw man, do not pretend like the extremists in your movement are powerless on the fringes, the are at the CORE running the movement! And if you are so appalled by them what has the feminist movement done to stop them?
You know actually stop them instead of trying to say "we all aren't like that join us anyway."
@genuinlysensitive
LOL my movement? Which one is that? :D
@MaskedSanity I won’t even bother addressing those childish analogies unless there is a good reason to.
In the modern day of western societies, the “loudmouths” you speak of are the ones spearheading the so-called third wave, whose actions reflect the likes of oppressive fanatics/crybabies as opposed to a movement advocating equal rights/basic decency (on top of whatever else they claim to stand for). In short, the cause and effect have changed the definition as we (who live comfortably in the western world) see it that it is starting to have a different meaning for different people in the world.
@maskedSanity sure it can be, it just depends on your frame of reference, in this case we are using the position that equal treatment or a lack of discrimination based on gender is the measuring stick. Against that standard Feminism is an extremist movement, you just have to examine their ideologies and practices for that to become abundantly clear.
Feminism= fights for equal rights not just rights for women...
Lol no.
I wish it was like that, but feminism doesn't open their mouth when it comes to men's problems.
Ok apparently I don't know much about feminism lol.
Really name one time they have done something to help men, and NOT hurt them.
"So it started by talking about women's issues and trying to cover them all, and it worked"
That's cool. When did they talk about men's issues?
Lots of feminists also talk about men's issues. Like the pressure on men from society to be strong, manly and never show emotions.
They talk about men's issues in the form of "patriarchy" and "rape culture"
@spuitkaas If its ok to show emotion why is it when we men do we are attacked called rapists and told that we only want sex from women? You know from FEMINISTS. It is just another example of the hypocrisy of the feminist movement.
@genuinlysensitive You're called being a rapist when you show emotion? That doesn't make sense. Like if a guy cries, he must be a rapist. I think you mean the feminazi, what this take mentioned.
@spuitkaas Feminists try and actually READ instead of having a knee jerk reaction to what someone says.
@genuinlysensitive I've read it, but I think there's a miscommunication, because you didn't use punctuation. Try again and I'll try to give an opinion.
Feminists one word no punctuation needed.
@spuitkaas
I've yet to see any feminists, even good ones discuss men's issues in any serious manner. Where solving the men's issue was actually the goal. It's never gone past, "we expect too much of men. Let's stop, ok? Ok. We've "solved" that problem. Let's go on to the next women's issue." Then they talk about the things they're physically going to do to solve their problems.
I'm not saying they're bad people, but they simply do not take men's issues seriously and they certainly don't fight for them. Otherwise we would hear about it.
I am the top of person that supports the 20th Century version of Feminism. Not the radical one we have today.
me too. the 20th century feminism is being applied in the arabic countries, which is good. but the feminism in the USA is just terrible. AND it is giving a wrong idea about women
Yeah. :).
Feminazi are bullies and degrades men. Seen a few here doing that. A lack of coherent thought to argue sensibly. :P
Can you please have a word with all of the television producers and personnel.
Even the "feminists" on television are typically "feminazi" Its driving me crazy!
I know what you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHYzYn3WZw
That is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my entire life. The fact that they are teaching these girls to be like this is disgraceful and horrible. 1 in 5 girls are raped omg... Its horrible the thought of even teaching my daughter to think like this. I understand the world is fucked up and I will make her aware, but never would I expect anyone to uphold such a filthy attitude. : (
This is just more propaganda for the feminist cause. They never have and never will to anything to stop the radicals they "pretend" to hate because they are the bosses. They run the show. The best they can do is say "not all feminists are like that join us anyway!"
Wonder if that dislike was from somebody on tv? I really hope so. Then I can say, "yeahhhhh thats right I'm talking to you".
TL;DR.. If u live in the west (/first world country) & you're a feminist. Then that would make you a feminazi.. If you live in a 2nd or 3rd world country & you're a feminist. Then congratulations! You're a true/real feminist! :D!!!
So you can't be a feminist in a first world country in support of those in second/third world countries?
@ImmaMonster
Sure you can, but to use that as justification of some systemic problem in the first world is disingenuous.
Have you heard of the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy?
People resort to calling everything a fallacy, but I seriously think there's a fallacy designed for calling everything a fallacy.
@Mesonfielde Just because an observation is annoying, that doesn't make it a fallacy.
You didn't change my mind about feminism. We don't need it anymore since we have equality.
I think that the words racist and sexist were mixed up in this take
this article really needed to be made. a lot of skewed perceptions of feminism on this website.
this feminism thing is getting on my nerves... something from 80s :)
why though? in old movies it was very normal to hit women. now in those movies it is funny to hit guys, but people still fuss about it as if it a bad thing to do and think the old movies were funny
@notgoodwithnames
In today's world it is very normal and accepted to hit men... and violently. You see it tv, in movies, in ads, etc. Why is that ok? There is zero push back to stop this, it is accepted, it is "funny", no one makes a fuss about it.
What happened in old movies is irrelevant today, and in today's world you will NOT see a male hit a female in media unless it is to push propaganda or the character is a "monster" of a human being.
Where do you see that it is accepted to hit men? Please state this with facts or a scientific article that tells me this has become more accepted, because I haven't heard about this or anyone telling me this except people on this site.
I just looked at the picture and thought "Hey this isn't fucking retarded" I like it.
I shave my legs so that I won't look like a bear lol
try renaming the movement... The label of 'feminist' has been tainted by the aforementioned feminazis.
The name is bad indeed. It should be called equalitism or something, but just equal is a little bit vague ofcourse
It doesn't matter what the name is it will contain the same group of sexist hate mongers, and will spew the same nonsense.
I've never met a feminist or seen a post about feminists even acknowledging male issues. Modern feminism exists to further women. In most legal cases women have more rights then men.
Egalitarians are truly fighting for equality.
There's a lot of sexist men on here...
A few*
I haven't noticed any, though I've noticed a lot of feminazis on here...
I am here:pp
Social connotations of post-modernist feminism versus modernist feminism.
Exactly!!! Tho also there are a few male femiNazi's who think if women want equality they should all be equal to each other and men by having breast reduction surgery