ish, it's sort of more like quantum computing, you can have a value of one or zero, and so many in between those two numbers, and to be honest, if and when we find aliens, it's quite likely they'd have genders we wouldn't even be able to comprehend, after all, it's just a role assigned by nature, why not take it and make it our own?
that's biology, but Gender has become more to do with identity today, so yes you're right to say there are two biological genders, but even that number would change when people start experimenting
@VictoriousSausage liberals are insane, creating or wanting to create new genders. I get wanting freedom and whatever, but they are just completely insane
you want freedom, you want all colours of it then, see, there's nothing wrong with going your own way on this, identity is subjective to you as an individual, you don't have to fit in, you can stand out! sure in the US it's a bit more difficult because people seem more judgmental there, but i dream of a society where everyone is just accepting of everyone, no matter their choice, and actually celebrates the fact that they choose that over sticking with the social order.
if someone wants to claim they're some imaginary gender they have the right to do so because freedom of private lives and freedom of speech but we should have the right to say you're not said gender
@Lumberman53 why does it matter? why do you or i need to tell someone what their gender is? can't we live our lives without caring what someone else considers themselves to be?
I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to claim they're said gender but if someone comes up to you and goes around saying I'm whatever imaginary gender I should have the right to respond to them and say no that's not real I have the right to an opinion if they want to keep insisting they're whatever gender fine but leave me out of it
If someone tells me that I'm a horse they should be allowed to tell me or anyone else that but of they're allowed to voice their opinion to me or anyone else should be allowed to say otherwise. I can understand why you say they should walk away but people should be able to debate each other of course I'm not saying that I'm going to make it my goal to everyone who claims to be transgender that they're such and such gender but if they say something to me then I might respond
@Lumberman53 it's just a non-issue for me. if someone thinks they are something. feels they are something then that's good for them. i don't really see why i need to tell them anything otherwise. my feeling is if it doesn't negatively impact my life or the lives of others then people can call themselves whatever tehy want
True they have the right to call themselves what they want I agree but still freedom of speech goes both ways, if you don't care to say anything you don't have to of course
@Lumberman53 well the freedom of speech thing is tricky. freedom of speech is in effect so long as you don't infringe on another person's life, liberty and pursuit of happines (in the USA). so (similar to hate speech which is illegal) if a government determines that you are infringing on someone's rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness i guess that may be where this legislation is sort of intended
That makes sense I suppose but my simply stating a disagreement is that really infringing on someone's life you're not harassing them or forcing them to stop just politely and respectfully stating a disagreement if disagreeing with them politely is hate speech then everything would be hate speech.
I get it that's there's a difference between sex and gender, but why do all these extra genders even matter? Keep the shit simple and identify as male or female. It sounds like people are pulling these names straight out of their asses.
There's also a bill (don't recall whether already passed or still coming) stating that prison inmates must be housed according to their self-identified gender, and the government must pay for sex changes for them if they want. Thanks a lot Justin.
there's only two genders. There are gay people, trans peope, but it doesn't change your gender. Your either a man ir a woman. There is no cuch thing as intersex or whatever. Dont believe everything liberals say
it's not about gender science.. it's about the human right to free speech. This bill is akin to making it illegal to say the earth is flat, for example.
This is why America in spite of all its flaws is the greatest country on earth because it is the only country where the authorities can't clap you in irons because you have an unpopular opinion.
What do you expect from a place that arrests publishers for reprinting the Danish cartoons depicting Mohammed? Or considers some Japanese Anime and Manga to be child pornography?
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There ARE only 2 genders. I don't know what crazy asses came up with all of the other ones. Gosh, such idiots in this world
ish, it's sort of more like quantum computing, you can have a value of one or zero, and so many in between those two numbers, and to be honest, if and when we find aliens, it's quite likely they'd have genders we wouldn't even be able to comprehend, after all, it's just a role assigned by nature, why not take it and make it our own?
@VictoriousSausage Putting too much thought into this. We either have a penis or a vagina, simple as that
that's biology, but Gender has become more to do with identity today, so yes you're right to say there are two biological genders, but even that number would change when people start experimenting
@VictoriousSausage liberals are insane, creating or wanting to create new genders. I get wanting freedom and whatever, but they are just completely insane
you want freedom, you want all colours of it then, see, there's nothing wrong with going your own way on this, identity is subjective to you as an individual, you don't have to fit in, you can stand out! sure in the US it's a bit more difficult because people seem more judgmental there, but i dream of a society where everyone is just accepting of everyone, no matter their choice, and actually celebrates the fact that they choose that over sticking with the social order.
i personally don't care. if someone wants to determine their own gender that's on them ti really doesn't impact me
if someone wants to claim they're some imaginary gender they have the right to do so because freedom of private lives and freedom of speech but we should have the right to say you're not said gender
@Lumberman53 why does it matter? why do you or i need to tell someone what their gender is? can't we live our lives without caring what someone else considers themselves to be?
I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to claim they're said gender but if someone comes up to you and goes around saying I'm whatever imaginary gender I should have the right to respond to them and say no that's not real I have the right to an opinion if they want to keep insisting they're whatever gender fine but leave me out of it
because if you go around telling me I'm whatever gender I don't have to agree
@Lumberman53 sure you don't have to agree but why do you need to say something in return.
if someone says "i'm a horse" can't you just say, 'uh ok' and walk away
If someone tells me that I'm a horse they should be allowed to tell me or anyone else that but of they're allowed to voice their opinion to me or anyone else should be allowed to say otherwise. I can understand why you say they should walk away but people should be able to debate each other of course I'm not saying that I'm going to make it my goal to everyone who claims to be transgender that they're such and such gender but if they say something to me then I might respond
@Lumberman53 it's just a non-issue for me. if someone thinks they are something. feels they are something then that's good for them. i don't really see why i need to tell them anything otherwise. my feeling is if it doesn't negatively impact my life or the lives of others then people can call themselves whatever tehy want
True they have the right to call themselves what they want I agree but still freedom of speech goes both ways, if you don't care to say anything you don't have to of course
@Lumberman53 well the freedom of speech thing is tricky. freedom of speech is in effect so long as you don't infringe on another person's life, liberty and pursuit of happines (in the USA). so (similar to hate speech which is illegal) if a government determines that you are infringing on someone's rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness i guess that may be where this legislation is sort of intended
That makes sense I suppose but my simply stating a disagreement is that really infringing on someone's life you're not harassing them or forcing them to stop just politely and respectfully stating a disagreement if disagreeing with them politely is hate speech then everything would be hate speech.
@Lumberman53 i understand
I hope Jordan Peterson peaces out and maintains his business from an online basis. Truedeau solidified his place as the King of Cucks.
Some day soon, the pendulum will swing back, and sweep all these tosspots away...
I get it that's there's a difference between sex and gender, but why do all these extra genders even matter? Keep the shit simple and identify as male or female. It sounds like people are pulling these names straight out of their asses.
Thats because they are
There's also a bill (don't recall whether already passed or still coming) stating that prison inmates must be housed according to their self-identified gender, and the government must pay for sex changes for them if they want.
Thanks a lot Justin.
Big fuckin' deal. Educated people already knew that there are more than two rigid genders.
there's only two genders. There are gay people, trans peope, but it doesn't change your gender. Your either a man ir a woman. There is no cuch thing as intersex or whatever.
Dont believe everything liberals say
it's not about gender science.. it's about the human right to free speech. This bill is akin to making it illegal to say the earth is flat, for example.
@Jager66 in this case, more like making it illegal to say that the earth is round
@lord_chilled lol ya
@lord_chilled Are you actually claiming that Intersex people don't exist?
Intersex is a condition. Its not separate gender. Intersex people can think of theselves as male or female, or neither, but its not a "new" gender
that shit actually passed. Canada is bat shit crazy. Glad I live in America where we voted for trump. enough of this horse shit.
Nooo why Justin? Why?
You only got elected because of your pretty face!
Trudeau is a disgrace to the male gender and only won the elections because he's a nice cuck to women.
*BEFORE HEARING THIS*
Canada was a British colony, rule Britannia.
*AFTER HEARING THIS*
yeah, Canada was a french colony
This is why America in spite of all its flaws is the greatest country on earth because it is the only country where the authorities can't clap you in irons because you have an unpopular opinion.
54 / 40 or fight!
No wonder the Penguins beat the Senators 7-0!
What do you expect from a place that arrests publishers for reprinting the Danish cartoons depicting Mohammed? Or considers some Japanese Anime and Manga to be child pornography?
Well if that's actually true then I am glad I don't live in Canada.
So does that mean a dude can just go around saying he is an F-35 ?
I cant' fly fast enough to be an F-35, I had to settle for F-22, but at my age that's still good.
@kickme oh well what can a dude do , we will have to settle for an f-18
You know your country is in deep shit when your government deals with such topics as catering to the delusional needs of mentally ill people.
Unless some alien species of hermaphrodites is upon us there are still only two genders in the human race , male or female.
My response is that there are only two genders. Because fuck Canada.