Settle a bet: Who would most likely win in a fight: A girl who's been doing MMA classes for a year, or a guy who's been doing them for two months?

[MCheetah]

Who do you think would win in a fight?

These two people have a sparring match in kickboxing/MMA. A non-violent fight between two combatants. This was a debate in my kickboxing gym tonight. I didn't participate though, cause I have no idea. If equally matched, the guy would likely win, but they're not equally matched.

A girl (Griselda).
25 years old
5'5" (165 cm)
154 lbs (70 kg)
Has been going to an MMA (mixed martial arts) gym two days a week, Tuesday and Thursday, for an entire year. Has been to roughly 100 classes.

Fit healthy shape, but not athletic (no abs, muscle tone, etc). Like this.

A guy (Mendel).
40 years old
5'9" (175 cm)
220 lbs (100 kg)
Has been going to an MMA gym three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, for seven weeks. Has been to roughly 20 classes.

Average build/dad bod; slightly overweight but not that fat. Like this.

WHO DO YOU THINK HAS THE BEST CHANCE OF WINNING THIS FIGHT?

The girl would win the fight.

The guy would win the fight.

I have no bloody idea.

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As far as the seriousness of the fight, let's assume the winner gets $1,000. They aren't trying to seriously hurt or injure each other, but they both definitely want to win that money.

Some of you have convinced me the guy would most likely win the fight. I also personally think the girl would need more than just a year to outclass the guy. Maybe if she had 5 years experience, she could beat him, but one year really isn't all that much. It's still kind of a beginner.

[Anonymous]

The girl would have great technique but no power in her punches. The guy would be able to land a solid punch and use his weight advantage in the clinch.

I’m a small guy, I can deadlift 450lbs, squat 410lbs, bench 325lbs, and have trained MMA for over a decade. I’ve fought professionally. In a self defence situation I’m still not going to fight fair with a guy who outweighs me by 70+lbs even if he’s never trained, I’m going to have to fight dirty. If I have to do that she sure as fuck isn’y gonna beat that guy in an MMA fight.

[MCheetah]

I thought in MMA, short guys like us (under six feet) were supposedly "the best" because we're (as they say) "the most balanced" and guys over six feet are too slow and have poor center of gravity? So I've been told.

[Opinion Owner]

I wouldn’t say that’s true, unfortunately. A tall guy has a reach advantage on the feet as long as he can maintain the distance between him and the shorter opponent with good footwork. His height isn’t necessarily going to make him slow, especially if he’s lean.

Shorter guys have a bit of an advantage when it comes to grappling because of the lower centre of gravity. It’s easier to take a guy down if your hips are lower than his.

BJJ, which they use on the ground in the cage, was created by 170lb guys to use against taller opponents who hadn’t trained to fight on the ground. In sparring I was able to get the best of 250lb guys when I weighed 140lbs, just because they didn’t know how to fight on the floor. I still wouldn’t try to have a fair fight with a big guy in a self defence situation, if he lands a lucky shot or slams me on the floor I’m done.

In MMA there are weight classes for a reason, as well as different classes for men and women. Size matters, as does the pound for pound strength difference between men and women. A top 135lb female fighter would still get smoked by an average 125lb male fighter.

A lot of people have been raised watching movies where 110lb women beat up multiple men twice their size with ease, or playing video games. Their ideas aren’t based on reality.

[MCheetah]

You should talk to @JosyJosy. Let's see how interesting this debate can get!

[TheorionMage]

Depends upon who MOST correctly does the forms and HOW WELL they apply them with accuracy.
I have found a woman tends to be MORE egotistically motivated to 'prove; themself'.

When I went to the VT Police Academy and we were taught tactical Aikido, those among us who were paired against the females in our 33rd BRC, the males usually came away the worse for wear because these women REALIZED 'precision' and tactics were their ONLY advantage against a usually far more physically-powerful opponent.

[Moimaris]

I think the man will win. But it depends if the girl is naturally strong. I once did Krav Maga and I had to train with the men because the girls were too easy for me and I’m naturally strong. But men are mostly much stronger

[MCheetah]

Yeah, but you're like six feet tall, so have a huge advantage over all of the females. And if the men were smaller than you, you'd probably be able to take them on, as well. The girl in this argument is like half that size.

[karaspara]

Depends on ability of course but on average the guy

[Stoner710]

level of training helps a lot a girl who's been taking marshal art classes for a year will likely beat a man taking it for 2 months. that being said it depends on the size of the guy. lets face it Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (last guy to play the mountain) would destroy someone like becky lynch or Alexa bliss who have had marsh art training and he hasn't had any marshal art training of course the guy is 6,9 and was in the top 3 the world heavyweight weight lifting from 2012-2019

[HighValue]

A guy that sits on the sofa with the listed stats is more likely to win if he actually tried and didn't go easy because it is a "girl".

[hahahmm]

What happens when average skinny dude goes all out on women https://youtu.be/F59U2Rot0b8

[MCheetah]

@hahahmm
I'm sorry, but this is F*CKING HILARIOUS! 🤣 Like, what did they seriously think would happen? I mean, if some of these women were actually trained boxers, that'd be a different story. Then the dude might have lost. But these are just out-of-shape, everyday women. The dude isn't even big, either. He's actually in a lower weight class than half of these women! These women agreed to this too, so what did they think was going to happen? This white knight voiceover dude doesn't believe in women's equality!

[HighValue]

@hahahmm Ha ha! That's so funny. Thanks for the video. And that dude was skinny. I'd gladly do the same thing IRL, but only to delusional feminists. He was no where near the 220 pound man suggested either.

[HighValue]

I'd gladly fight any MMA trained woman (that isn't attractive and is a man hating feminist) for money. I'd give no mercy. Seriously, if it was possible I would fight them to prove a point.

[MCheetah]

@HighValue
MMA is a male dominated sport filled with some of the world's toughest people outside of the military. An "MMA trained feminist" is like an oxymoron that can't exist. Feminists are weak minded and weak spirited. They wouldn't last a week doing hand-to-hand combat sports, let alone anything physical at all. That's why you get women like Gina Carano, who are anti-feminists. Hell, as obnoxious as she is, even Ronda Rousey despised feminists.

[nickstaa]

Tbh it's too hard to tell and there are too many factors E. G. if one of them had previous fight or street fighting experience when younger.

Assuming neither had any I would go with the 'dad' because he will have a major strength advantage, and a lot of the girls moves won't effect him much.

[hahahmm]

Trick question. The guy who thinks like a white knight simp will lose 100% of the time, regardless of training because he's afraid of hurting her.

[look44]

There are too many unknown factors to really tell. If she had 5 years experience of serious training though, then there would be no question that she would win - and easily too. As some mentioned already, skills, technique and experience definitely beat size and strength.

[Anpu23]

Skill and technique will outperform raw strength virtually every time. Not saying he couldn't get lucky but her skill will give her the edge.

[HighValue]

They why when I was a White belt in Kung Fu at age 17 I could easily defeat a black belt instructor that had more than 20 years of experience?
He was a 135 pound man and I was 200 pounds at the time, way stronger than him. When the power gap is too much, technique means very little.

[Anpu23]

@HighValue I wasn't there, nor do I know either of you. I do know that skill and technique far outweigh brute strength. I've seen that quite a few times. Both in snd out of the ring. Also the less rules the more advantage the trained have.

[t-8900]

I'd throw the fight because hitting a woman doesn't sit right with me, sorry. Only time I'd hit a woman is if she was hurting/raping a child, if she was coming at me with a knife/gun, if she was seriously hurting my wife, then all bets are off.

[Tyrael]

How do you have a non violent MMA fight? The guy would take it if they went all out and didn't hold back.

[MCheetah]

By non-violent, I mean, they aren't trying to seriously injure each other and fighting angrily. But they aren't holding much back, either. Let's just say, the winner wins $100.

[Diamold]

Even if the girl struggles a bit because of his strengh, she will eventually win because she as better skills

[worldscolide]

Not a clue, if they had the same level of experience, I guarantee the guy wins. Sorry there is a reason women's and men's sports are segregated.. Even without the same experience my vote does lean more toward the guy, imply because of the strength.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

The girl wins.

Anyone who says even an untrained man could kill a trained woman in hand-to-hand combat is on heroin.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Couple boo hoos from the goo goos

[JosyJosy]

I'd put all on Yolanda

[MCheetah]

Yeah, but Yolanda fights pussy guys who are like 100 pounds! 😜

[JosyJosy]

175-220 actually

[MCheetah]

Anything under 200 is still small/skinny on a grown man. The average American women weighs 170 now. But okay. I'll take your word for it.

[JackHoff77]

Second guy because of his weight advantage, probably.

[iboobs]

Obviously the guy in most cases

[loves2learn]

I vote girl!

[rosegirl08]

I mean, girl obviously

[Miss_Wats0n]

The girl.

[JesseJayNeak]

I have no idea