Why do people think feminism and misandry are the same and why do people think men's rights activists and misogyny are the same?

[Fembot47]

For real, feminism is NOT about hating males, and men's rights activists is NOT about hating females. Misandry and Misogyny is about hate males/females. I bet people don't know the difference between the four.

[JacobJordan]

Very simple. Because feminism and misandry are the same. Feminism today is not about equality it is about superiority. Feminism accomplished equality several decades ago. The proof of that is in the fact modern women are claiming bs like "we aren't paid the same as men" when it has been proven 100 ways from Sunday they not only make the same in many situations they actually make more. So many "feminists" have been very clear about how much they hate men with many going so far as a say that if a woman gets pregnant with a boy baby she should have an abortion because of the whole kill all men. Feminists and modern women weaponized metoo movement and have abused it to such a degree that genuine victims are scarcely believed anymore. Of course not all are like that but given how loudly and proudly many of the toxic women proclaim to having destroyed men's lives being a feminist is not a good thing. As for the men's rights activists only people claiming they are misogynistic are the toxic women. They do so because they can't handle being called out on their bullshit so they are trying to silence the people that call them out and stand up for men. My mom has repeatedly said that if she knew feminism would look like it does today she would have left women in the position they were before the feminist movement.

[strateguy632]

officially separated but feminists are emphasized ideas that hate men so now same.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Both are propaganda, though it would also be a lie to say that every person bearing the label of “feminist” or “men’s rights activist” doesn’t also share sentiments that fall into misandry and misogyny. There are plenty of “feminists” who despise men to the point of refusing anything to do with them and genuinely believe gender segregation is best for a functioning society in full. Two different gendered governments for two different gendered nations. There are also plenty of “men’s rights activists” who despise women and see them as not only burdens to mankind but a disease whose only purpose should be procreation and nothing else. These are obviously extremes that don’t align with the values of the movements you spoke of, but these people do exist and bear those labels and put out those impressions

[Anonymous]

Because a lot of feminists behave very badly.

[Kaneki05]

How can one be a men's right activist if men already have all the rights?

[Fembot47]

It's the opposite of feminism, compared to feminism and mra's, feminism is anti-misogyny, mra is anti-misandry.

[Kaneki05]

There's a difference between been anti-misandry and been activity fighting for rights one don't have so no it's the true that they are so.
Women actually had to fight for voting and equality, men never had to that's the difference.
Honestly it just mocks the idea of feminism all together.
Much like how a white pride is entirely a mockery to people of colour.

[MrOracle]

"men already have all the rights"

Let's see if you still think so when you get drafted, or when you go to divorce court and have your children given to your ex-wife, who will collect her child support at the point of a government rifle, but doesn't need to let you have access to your children. Those are just a few examples.

[Kaneki05]

@MrOracle Fair on drafting in the past but now? That wouldn't stand pretty sure most of us Zoomers would rather go to prison than be forced to war. And we would just look out for each other in prison have a Anti-war gang.
Plus women were still forced to nurses and etc doing war efforts as well. That included everyone forced to do something though it is different to been a solider, but I would imagine today everyone would be drafted since we have many ads for women can be soldiers too.

If you wouldn't willingly pay for your own kids welfare that you decided to have whether you see them or not that makes you a bad parent because what good parent wouldn't. Getting divorced is an excuse to be a lack luster dad who couldn't pay child support don't think so. lol.

[MrOracle]

"That wouldn't stand pretty sure most of us Zoomers would rather go to prison than be forced to war."

That's hilariously naïve and wrong. People in the 60s were far more anti-war and the world was much less able to keep tabs on people, and yet very few actually dodged the draft - the majority went.

"And we would just look out for each other in prison have a Anti-war gang."

Again, you have no clue how prison works. You would have zero power in prison.

And, no, women were NOT forced to be nurses, or work in factories. They were ASKED to, and they volunteered.

Finally, if you were paying child support to an ex-wife, and you could see that this money was NOT going to your children, but rather to her lifestyle, AND you weren't able to see your kids because she was keeping them from you, I'm sure you wouldn't just keep happily writing checks and say "awe, shucks" when she never met you when it was time for you to be with your kids. But the courts don't care. They can send you to prison for not paying child support, even if she keeps your kids in rags and feeds them crap, or keeps you from seeing them entirely. You have basically no rights in family court.

Go spend a day in family court sometime. It doesn't matter where. Just go, and see what men's rights look like.

[Kaneki05]

@MrOracle Yeah cause no one in the 60s refused to go into war and were sent to prison instead never happened, and times haven't progressed to make people fight back even more at all. If you think crime is increasing but somehow think people will be more kind and responsive to be drafted then your the naive one.
The governments had way more control back then compared to now, still plenty of control but we've only become more resistant to fall into norms of old conservative ways. And doing your duty for one's country is a very conservative daft idea we don't buy.

Considering I've been a gang before, and been to court along with spending nights in a cell your lack of knowledge and presumptuous beliefs about me show clearly.
Clearly you don't realise how many young people today are in gangs.

Asked? Lol it's cute you think women were asked and seriously could have the authority to say back to a man nah I am good thanks.

Thing called child services my man, you know that exists right? If them kids are legit in rags like you so claim you could easily take action against them. Ya know why those men don't because the fact is the kids aren't in rags.

[Anonymous]

"Feminism is not bad, therefore bad feminists must not be feminists"

When are we going to move beyond this logical falacy and start judging feminists for their bad behavior?

[Fembot47]

If they hate men, they are feminists, they are misandrists.

[Fembot47]

*not feminists

[Opinion Owner]

Wrong. There are a lot of feminists who hate men, and they are indeed feminists. You can't pretend that no feminists are bad. That's about as ignorant as it gets.

This dihonesty is the biggest reason feminism is in the toilet today. The movement has serious problems it needs to address in its ranks, but the dishonesty of most feminists like yourself insures it won't happen.

[TheSpider]

So you say. Every feminist I ever met hated men. But maybe I am hanging around the wrong ones.

[Fembot47]

Yes. If they hate men, they are not feminist. They are just some dumb misandric person, that calls himself/herself a feminist.

[TheSpider]

This is why I never talk to anyone under 40.

[catsmemoir]

If you were to draw a Venn diagram, you'd see a great deal of overlap for both.