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I think they should. The other day at a 4 way intersection it dawned on me I had no clue if the other driver was motioning me to proceed. I could not see them at all. I do get a lot of information driving, biking and walking by watching other drivers and what they are looking at. Plus law enforcement cannot tell what a driver is doing either. Hell I miss seeing other drivers pick their noses! lol What do you think?
No. If anything the current laws are too strict. It protects from harmful UV rays that damage the interior of your car. It reduces the heat buildup in the vehicle, stops the inside of your car from scalding you when you get into it. It also allows you to conceal valuables in your car easier and makes you less of a target for thieves and carjackers. Additionally if you have light sensitivity issues like I do (Uveitis), it’s the only way I can drive now.
Windshield tinting I believe should only be allowed for the top 6-8” of the windshield and you should be required by law to have your window rolled down if pulled over before the officer approaches your car. That should reduce most of the concerns.
No. This is another case where you want to punish EVERYONE because of a few criminals. News flash: the criminals are STILL going to do it! The rules of the road are written so that you don’t have to have conversations with every other driver on the road before you can accomplish anything. Obey the laws and mind your own business. Stop trying to tell other people how they should live their lives. It’s nothing short of fascism and there’s no such thing as a moderate fascist. Once you give them power, they will take everything from everyone. And it will be entirely the fault of people like you who have no respect for liberty because other people’s choices are inconvenient or uncomfortable for you.
Eh.. come on now. What do you do when someone else's actions infringe on your quiet a peaceful life? Ignore them? I doubt it. You are too vocal here. This is not an insult, I would just want to watch you lay it on them.
Well as a cop, when I pull you over, I obviously have reasonable suspicion that you've broken a law, so why shouldn't I be able to see into your vehicle for my own safety? With tinted windows you run a higher risk because I'm going to have my pistol drawn and pointed at you because I can't see you when I approach the vehicle. That's not fair to granny who has her kids in the back seat and hasn't done anything wrong but swerve left of center. What about her rights not to gave a gun pointed at her and her grandkids when she really hasn't done anything serious? All because you wanna play hide-and-seek in a motor vehicle and try to be "cool".
Had a case not long ago where a black athlete from UNC was pulled over at 2am for a window tint violation. As usual, first thing out of his mouth was "You pulled me over because I'm black". My reply was, "If your windows were blacked out and it's 2am, how could I tell you were black before I pulled you over?"
Your argument fails the logic test because if I can come to your house and look into your windows without a search warrant, I should be able to look into your vehicle without one. Your home should be more of a "private" place than your vehicle.
Here in NC if you "need" tinted windows due to a medical condition, you can get a note from the Dr. and take it to the DMV and they will flag your license tag. That way when I pull you over, I know you have an exemption from the NC tinted window statute.
It isn't fascism, it's officer safety, and it is permissible if you have a valid reason.
@JackBnymble It's fascinating to see the perspective from law enforcement and what you said makes perfect sense. Also learned you can have a tint flag on a plate.
@dustybiker2
North Carolina doesn't allow tinted license plate covers. The issue with those is our license plates had red letters, and when you cover them with dark tint, you can't read the license plate. I've seen some tinted so dark I couldn't read the plate during the day. Part of that problem was our license plates suck. Red is the first color to fade out under UV light, so after about a year, our license plates get hard to read because the letters have faded. Add a tinted cover over faded letters and the thugs love it because no one can get their tag # when they commit a crime and flee. The state went to blue letters years ago but there's still a lot of red letter plates on the road. The state didn't recall them they are still valid until they rust away.
@JackBnymble Good to know. I always thought the tinted plates blocked the traffic cameras, as main reason. It looks sketchy. Same with people who scrape them. Surprised they aren't required to replace them.
in the uk we have a maximum on how tinted front windows can be.
you could also make an argument that tinted windows could reduce crime and car break ins if they are more common since it would make it less easy to see if the car was a of high value to thieves.
Plus, as you yourself stated as well as many driving codes, you should not in theory listen to drivers hand signals, and should be able to read the road and how to drive it yourself.
Tinted windows are almost necessary in dangerous environments. A lot of robberies are in traffic when your car is stopped. Tinted windows mean that robbers are less likely to target you because they don’t know if the car has one little old lady or 5 burly men
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Most states only allow a certain percentage of the window to be tinted so things are still visable. But yes they are dangerous
u Pretty much all countries and US-states have maximum tint regulations for the three front windows and they are enforced (I watch a lot of LEO content). In Germany you are almost always given the option to rip the illegal tinting out yourself, to save money. While driving around tinted during the day might look cool, at night it can be really dangerous, as I have tested myself with an American import car.
Its a massive problem here , because sure in the day you need them , but at night with all the motorbikes and stuff going on its dangerous , but they could never be banned here because they are needed badly in the day. Also your complaint just is not going to be a issue , if some Thai driver signaled me to go , I'm waiting.
Picking the nose? There are far more exciting things going on.
No tinted windows be made illegal - in most jurisdictions the level of tints are limited for instance in the UK front & rear windscreen has to be clear, front driver side and passenger side can only have a 30% tint, the rear driver side and passenger side has no limit. Tinted windows are useful in sunny climates as they reduce UV damage to the cars/trucks interiors.
Hell yes! I think personally that’s how police and highway patrol officers are getting shot. They can’t see inside people fumbling around for the gun. And then they roll down the window and get shot or worse. Also if some idiot who has tinted windows so dark and they bully you on the road if not hitting you, then you can’t identify them because it would take to long to grab your phone to snap a pic of the car or license plate.
When riding my motorcycles if I can't see the driver I will not move. I'll let anything go first for my own safety. I've had people realize the heavy tint and roll their windows down to wave me on.
They’re are legal here. you are allowed to tint your rear windows to an extent of your choosing, but front windows can only be tinted up to 30%, and your windshield shouldn't be tinted at all.
Let people have their tints. The whole philosophy of this country is supposed to be that if you're not willing to maintain and live with the risks of freedom you don't deserve it.
Here it is legal to have tinted windows except for the windscreen. That breaks the law, EXACTLY for the reasons you mentioned.. no wait, not the picking noses lol
in our state after a certain degree of tint aka too dark they are illegal.
Most patrol cars have the meter in them, so they can, and it really depends on your attitude, issue a 5 day, a ticket or tow your car.
Lighting, lack of privacy, sun glare pets harm, UV rays, are a few of the problems that automatic tinting windows can help with. Self-tinting windows.
What are auto tint windows?
Auto tinting windows are also known as “Smart Windows,” “dimmable windows,” “transitions windows.” It allows people to enjoy an unobstructed view of the outside world. For the workplace, smart windows provide complete instant privacy.
-EB GLASS
Not legal here while operated on a street.
No, they shouldn't. My father used to have a tinted window car during some years and it was super cool, it protected us from the sun.
So does sunscreen. WalMart sells it.
In many states in the US, tinted windows that are too dark to see through ARE illegal.
Here it's 12 or 13% I think. Might be 14%. All the cops have a tint meter in the car. If the red light comes on your tint is illegal. If the green light comes on, it's legal
Depending where you live there are laws prohibiting or limiting the tint on car windows.
Nope. Personally I would prefer tint was darker so no one can see anyone more privacy that way.
The flaw in that logic is, you have no expectation of privacy in a public place. There is no right to privacy on a public highway, at least in the U. S.
If I do a traffic stop and I can't see into your vehicle, I'm going to search your vehicle. You have a lot better chance of me not finding the weed/gun/meth/dildo under your seat if you don't have tinted windows, because then all the authority to search I have is a "plain sight" search. If I look into your un-tinted rear window and can't see your weed/gun/meth/dildo under the seat or under your jacket, I can't charge you for possession. Without your consent I normally can't search your vehicle without probable cause. Tinted windows is a foot in the door to probable cause to search.
@JackBnymble there isn't anything to find in my car lol and searching it simply because you can't see into the vehicle is a violation of the 4th amendment. Tint does not give articulable suspicion except to corrupt police. As for their not being a right or expectation that matters very little to me. I am saying more tint is a good thing as it gives more privacy whether it is a right or not has no bearing on the matter.
Not solely because you have tinted windows.
But tinted windows are an equipment violation. Once I pull you over for that, then I can develop RAS then do my search legally. You're "fidgety" and have tinted windows? The courts say I have RAS to search your vehicle. The catch is, "fidgety" is my opinion. You're going to argue you weren't "fidgety". I'm going to say you were and I felt concerned for my safety. Who is the jury going to believe? The guy that got caught with a gun/weed/crack in his car or the cop?
If you hadn't have tinted windows I wouldn't have had PC to pull you over to begin with and I wouldn't have developed RAS to search your vehicle. :)
"there isn't anything to find in my car lol"
You do realize every time I find a gun/dope/etc in someones car they told me that when i asked if I could search their car?
Hint: "there isn't anything to find in my car lol" means I need to find a reason to search your car. LOL
@JackBnymble and you wonder why everyone records interactions with corrupt officers like yourself. See I wouldn't tell you their is nothing I would simply tell you "if you feel comfortable violating my 4th amendment" and then soon as you do drop a massive lawsuit with the stipulation that you are permanently fired and charged with violating civil liberties. Unlike most of your victims I have the money to afford such a lawsuit and such an outcome. Have dealt with police a few times most of them know me because of the work I do in the community. The new guys learn really quick that I know the law. Also the reason I am saying tint should be darker is because if the legal tint was darker it removes a false reason from corrupt cops like yourself
Not me, man. You're throwing a lot of accusations out there. I'm straight as can be.
I worked with a lot of corrupt officers. I'm just saying the way it is. I had one deputy who trained his dog to alert whenever he'd cough. So if he wanted to search your car, RAS or PC didn't matter. He'd walk the dog around your car, cough, and the dog would alert. Never failed to hold up in court because the dog alerting was on dash cam. No one suspected the cough was a signal to the dog. I've worked with officers who would roll the drunks when they left the club and steal their money. Worked with officers who would rob the dope dealers then sell the dope to their competition. Worked with officers who would burglarize apartments when they saw the tenant leave for work. Worked with officer who would slap a suspect around a little more than was needed.
Like you say, most of them retired when cell phones with cameras became commonplace.
""if you feel comfortable violating my 4th amendment"
And yeah, that's giving consent. Your lawsuit just failed.
The correct answer is, "No I don't consent to a search"
@JackBnymble that isn't consent actually lol. Consent is yes or no
Consent is "yes or no" Well hell that simplifies our problem then doesn't it? If you say "no" that's consent to search. Demand a refund on your online law school tuition, you got fucked, my man. The courts have already ruled in several cases that your "if" statement is implied consent. "If I feel comfortable violating your 4th amendment right", then the search is consensual. Then you can't argue the search was illegal because I felt comfortable, thus it was legal. Positive negatives don't work in law, Skippy.
Look dude. No lawyer gives one fuck about your piddly ass window tint 4th amendment shit. If I search your car without RAS all that's going to happen is any evidence subsequent to the search will be ruled inadmissible in court. Cops do illegal searches every day. Usually the prosecutor is aware of it and plays it out and the thug goes to jail. I've been told more times by a prosecutor to lie on the stand than I've had birthdays.
No lawyer that isn't just out of law school is going to give one shit about your 4th amendment case. lawyers who do CR cases want the big dollars George Floyd or Kim Potter or Rodney King or Ahmaud Arbery CR cases, not your piddy shit. And real men don't drop names about who knows them and how much money they have.
You're a punk ass like I deal with every day and I don't give one fuck about how much money you have or who you know. I hear that noise every fuckin day. In 20 years none of you have actually found a lawyer that would take your piddly ass case. Yeah you'll whine to the chief like a bitch, he'll let you fill out a form, tell you he's going to straighten me out, then he and I will laugh about you and go get some coffee.
You just be sure I can see your hands behind that illegal window tint so we don't have us a "misunderstanding" beside the highway at night. The ME gets pissed off when he has to get out of bed at 2am.
@JackBnymble I wish a corrupt pig like you would. 2 to the chest 1 to head removes corrupt so easily
Try you luck, Scooter.
I suggest you get in your car right now and find a cop and shoot him.
@JackBnymble don't have to none of the police where I am are corrupt. We get along fantastically.
OK Scooter.
But thanks for proving my point for me. Outstanding job.
See boys and girls, Jacob here is why tinted windows shouldn't be legal. Jacob is why you shouldn't be concerned or upset when I walk up to your car with my pistol in my hand. Read his comment. He'll throw a temper tantrum and shoot a cop because he can't have tinted windows under my state's law and I search his car to see what he's hiding.
See, I don't know when I pull you over if you are you or if you are Jacob. That's why I have my pistol pointed at you until I see your hands, and if you won't show me your hands, that's called disobeying a lawful order, it's a misdemeanor, then the traffic stop escalates. I call for backup, and we wait for 2 or 3 other officers to arrive.
Jacob here is stupid enough to draw on a gun already pointed at him because he's having an immature temper tantrum over window tint... then I'm going to cancel his birth certificate.
The ME is gonna come out and take some pics of his body, SBI will come investigate, they'll watch the body and dash cam, they'll listen to the recording of the radio conversation with dispatch, then rule the shoot as justified.
Jacob will have a nice funeral, he'll be an FBI police statistic, and I'll have a cool story to tell to my partner while were on a boring stakeout.
Only a fool draws on a gun already pointed at him, Jacob. You won't get your "2 to the chest and one to the head" because my first round will enter your torso before your hand comes up level and your finger can take up the slack on the trigger. You won't live long enough to make it to the ER because my hollowpoint shredded your internals and you bled out within 6 minutes, before the EMT's even arrived, just like Daunte Wright did.
You're why national training standards teach cops to approach every vehicle on a traffic stop with their hand on their gun.
@JackBnymble lol live in delusion pig. Also like most corrupt pigs your understanding of the laws is shit. Oink oink piggy.
With all of the distractions that are out there today. When you can’t see the driver. You don’t know what they are doing nor what to expect them to do.
I think those are all terrible reasons to change a law in fact a better argument could he made that we need tinted windows, to distance ourselves from people like you.
In some places they are illegal. But, why should they all be illegal?
yes, especially for the cops. Sometimes it is hard to see if they are looking at me.
At least driver and passenger front windows, yes.
I think front window tints should be illegal for the reasons you mentioned.
In NYS dark tints are allowed on the rear window only, but very light tints on the front widows so the driver and passenger can be seen easily.
No I don't think so, who wants to drive around in the fish bowl?
At some degree of opacity they are illegal.
They actually are illegal
Well the law is sure not being enforced it would seem.
No kidding. That would be scary.
@Jennz6
I like it more than the guy does whom I have my Glock pointed at his face because I can't see his face/body/hands/interior when I approach his vehicle. :)
@JackBnymble What’s a Glock?
So you definitely are a northern gal, karen.
Nope. That is just stupid.
They are illegal over here in my country!
They are if they are too dark
i like them keeps to sun down
No, buzz off.
Nope
Of course not
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