Why are some people so easily addicted to things like gambling or drugs or social media and others aren't?

[Lynx122]

For me if I feel like something is having a negative effect on me I can generally quit even if I enjoyed it. The only thing I guess that's difficult is being online because I need a lot of rest and time when I'm not being responsible for a bunch of things and being online is the easiest way. But i don't think I'm addicted to it if I had a structure in my life that was built around other things I could quit easily. I have had times when I didn't use the internet like when I was in the military or things like that and it didn't bother me. It's more the time that needs to be filled if I'm resting from responsibilities that I've taken care of and I don't have much else to do except go online then of course I will. But if there's other things I'm doing then I don't need to go online. I just wonder like why it's kind of easy for me to say no to something, even if I've done it a lot already, and for other people it destroys their whole life. I wish I could really understand how other peoples brains and minds work it would be interesting.

[Gym_Bro]

Bro, because they are pussies!

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[Lynx122]

video is not working

[D_Bone_Steak]

Gambling and social media confuse the shit out of me. I consider substance abuse a different animal. Gambling and social media though won't make you start puking if you don't have it... the physical connection is just not there. I'm looking at them first and not all the coffee drinkers out there that don't understand they're addicted to a substance... just like an alcoholic.

Gambling and social media is a pure mental thing and it's along the lines of "what makes an anorexic not want to eat?" It's formed by a certain physical feeling just like with substance use. If done enough and reinforced... it becomes a habit. A habit when it's not healthy is then called an addiction. If it was making money or building muscle, people think about it differently.

[Gym_Bro]

@Lynx122 I'll say it here because I confuse d bone as well. I purposely make the video non functional.

[Gym_Bro]

HOLY SHIT I saw a admin-like fucker user on here mention an upcoming A. I. powered policing of this site.
It's here. My opinion to D bone Steak's last question (minutes ago) was removed with -7 points (admin, not a moderator made decision) instantly, like in 10 seconds after I posted it. Let me repost. ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ ﾠ
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Also, the non functional video is used to trick the site into giving me the MHO, even if my opinion is as short as one word.

[Gym_Bro]

I saw 1 year ago the promise of a. i. powered moderation.

Anyway, censored opinion:

There's no reason 2020 would have more total red votes than 2024. Back then it wasn't widely known what comedy a retarded pedophile in the oval office is capable of making, what the dems are doing to the border, and also back then there must have been a fuss about trump going along with covid mandates, he wasn't promising to open up everything about Epstein, etc. Which he has now, which should make people think that he's for real going to "drain the swamp", his beef with RFK would definitely earn a shit ton of votes in 2024 from people who avoided voting ever in the last. Then in 2024 Elon Musk supposedly grabbed the amish by their dicks to make them vote red when they never voted before, all this shit, and even the 'tarded media like CNN turned their anuses toward the word-salad which should be really scary considering she was in power to do everything she promised to already, and yet total number of red votes did not increase?

Put another way, the dems and repubs are metaphorically both wearing swastika uniforms interrogating us all in a twisted sodomite's version of "good cop bad cop", I've got all the gematria AND numerology to clear any doubts that they're all fucking each other. You remember, so many ex Democrats make up the Republican party today? SAME PEOPLE? Doesn't that smell like they're all members of one inbreeding secret society bloodline, acting for the illusion that you have a choice?

Anyway, I'm a homo bro and I'd love Elon Musk to shove a microchip into my visual cortex to make me see a faggy twink whenever I look at anyone really, kids, grannys, animals, joe Biden.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Gym_Bro Interesting. I wished this site wouldn't take censorship on their laps. Not to overlook everything you've said because I do partly agree as I do see the uni-party at work trying to fuck the changes that need to be made. I sense a sincere sense of sarcasm and I hold it too... and I probably won't change that until I see changes to believe it. The right is getting their chance now and if they fumble again like the left did in the last 4 they stole... I might give the green light to my alien friend to take humans over and put them in their place. ... and he's hot for teen girls, so if you have daughters... lock them up... for their safety. You know how aliens like to abduct people and all that.

Since I have you on the line... crazy how Gagg ('s on cock) went insane after that election. Now we know for sure what party they back. They might calm their tits when they realize that no abortions that aren't already banned are not getting banned.

[Gym_Bro]

@d_bone_steak the uniparty is really something... as retarded as I sound with the numbers, they are all the proof anyone needs. Just like the drag queen of England, dying at 6:30 pm, 69 years 3 months and 6 days after coronation, at 96 years of age and the book they wrote on a special date being 96 pages long, and whose name in the reverse order gematria equals 369, just to name a few off the top of my head, year of birth 1+9+2+6 (=18, 1+8) =9 and year of death is 2+0+2+2 = 6, making another 96, and I forgot a lot about that specific case over 2 years ago but it was so long it couldn't fit into the character limit of one reply in gag.. some of it wasn't about 3,6,9, like dying 201 days after being diagnosed with covid and "event 201" was 2019 coronavirus simulation at John Hopkins, also the minute of death 6:30pm is 1110th minute of the day, I believe elizabeth was born on 111th day of the year and 111 days remain in the year after September 11th, also 911 days went by from the day CDC declared covid pandemic to the day elizabeth died, and 1776 days since first q anon drop (year bavarian illuminati was founded as well as USA a nation...) just too many coincidences not to think it's staged to some extent... the numbers are present in everything in American politics, both parties.

Now, the retarded federal spending on drag queens and shit... is all for show, they only popped up not so long ago, just to pretend; "LOOK trump is draining the swamp!!!" When in reality the real swamp remains. Also promotes elon musk with is "Doge" coin, in reverse "e-god" like we're going to suck the dick of an electronic overlord...

Two sides arguing over nonexistent things is effective in making people not sure if they even want the truth anymore.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Gym_Bro "Two sides arguing over nonexistent things is effective in making people not sure if they even want the truth anymore." Indeed it does. Any 3rd parties that wish to attend this party have no fucking clue what we're talking about. Fucking dolts. That's not our problem... that's a them problem that tends to effect me when it gets out of hand. Almost as if it's my fault they're fucking retards. As if I'm supposed to be their teacher when they can barely teach themselves how to speak. Mandates from God while we make up what God is I suppose. That "God is Dead" guy Netche or however you spell his Germtard name would slap me on the back for that one.

Anyways... trolling on Twitter... I mean X... I'm thinking about making a full switch. This place is dry and I think I basically fucked every pussy there is to be fucked here. I'm sort of practicing my meme games there just to see how it goes... It's just sort of scary with how it was and with such popular and famous people... I gotta call them faggots and retards.

[Gym_Bro]

@d_bone_steak I've heard that twitter (I won't penetrate the loominatzi subject of Elon Musk's Skull&Bones affiliation, symbolism of "X"...) I heard they are about to switch to 100% subscription based shit. They'll need you to pay with your real name attached payment method.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Gym_Bro That will throw me off if it happens. Bodybuilding. com did that and I didn't follow in.

[Gym_Bro]

@d_bone_steak it was announced a long time ago but doesn't appear to have taken off. For sure though they wouldn't want me to run 20 fake billionaire buttfucker accounts. A new member of the BBC club, a german, kissinger, "@Henry_FistingGerm" would join David_RockhardFeeler, Warren_Boofing, Larry_Pegs, Osama_BumLoader, Justin_HugeThroat, and the rest of my previous 20. I wonder what happens if I'd try to set that up. Will I get banned before even posting?

[sage2021]

My own guess would be that it's because the chemicals (neurotransmitters) in a person's brain aren't deficit and aren't if need of replenishinh with outside stimulation.

For instance Dopamine is what gives you pleasure. If you have plenty of dopamine then you probably won't be trying to replenish it because you have enough..

Now if you are deficient in Dopamine then you will be on the hunt for something to fulfill your pleasure part of your brain with the drug (s) of your choice.

It could be food, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, internet stimulation (porn), whatever gives you pleasure.

You Serotonin levels are important because they are in charge of your mood, mental state. That's why people go on antidepressants to up their Serotonin levels.

And if you are feeling down in the dumps because your Serotonin levels are deficient then you might take drugs or drink, smoke some refer, trying to get in a better mood this feeling better.

Neuropenfrin is another neurotransmitter that works in combination with the other ones. But I don't know exactly what symptoms you would have if your transmitters aren't functioning properly.

[Crimsyjo]

Yes I've explored these hormone topics, having suffered depression. I've looked up ways to increase or balance my serotonin in levels naturally. I know running/walking and being out in nature help.

But why some people have more imbalance in the first place I don't know? Depression runs strong in my family so some genetics could be involved.

[sage2021]

@Crimsjo

I do know that people with ADHD are deficient in Dopamine and that's a fact. Their brains have brain damage from being inside the mother of just after birth. But I believe the damage was done when the mother was pregnant with the person.
Resent research has shown that if the mother took Tylenol while pregnant it causes Autism. There are class action lawsuits going on right now about this finding.
If a pregnant woman smoked cigarettes while pregnant that would cause the birth defect giving the child ADHD.
I haven't done any research on serotonin yet.

[Crimsyjo]

Hm. So would that link ADHD to addiction personalities? Or just makes them more likely to seek out highs? But not necessarily be addicted.
My 19 Yr old friend has ADHD and autism and he swings I'm mood a lot from being excessively manic to very anxious. He off loads his manic moments with dance abd he seems very happy doing it.

[sage2021]

@Crimsyjo
I would imagine that if you are constantly seeking pleasure because you are deficient in Dopamine that it very well could lead to an addiction if you choose illicit drugs like meth and smoked it several times a day until in the end it makes you crazy and eventually death is imminan.

[sage2021]

**correction**
imminent

[Makeushiver]

@sage2021 Your body seeks homeostasis. naturally occurring neurotransmitters like endorphins that occupy Mu receptors the same way heroin does. can be fatal with, warnike-korsakoff syndrome. If you factor the health care costs, health effects, social effects and harm done to non-users it is by far the worst drug available.

[Makeushiver]

@sage2021 this is actually part 2. When you start adding exogenous opiates your body sense it and, stops producing any endogenously. That is at least true for opiates. You also have naturally occurring neurotransmitters such as norepinephrine, serotonin and- as Sage pointed out dopamine. Dopamine is the neurotransmitter responsible for initiative, cocaine or Ritalin interfere with the re-uptake of dopamine. This allows it to stay in the synaptic cleft rather than get metabolized which means you will have more available. Amphetamine and methamphetamine seem to work by actually increasing the amount of dopamine in the synaptic cleft as well as interfering with the metabolizing or re-uptake of it which also allows you to have an excess available. Some behaviors such a gambling, sex, etc. also increase the dopamine available. Those drugs are physically addicting meaning your body will suffer withdrawal until it can produce some of its own and psychologically addicting. Because of this, even when withdrawal is over people want the rush they got from exogenous sources. This is tricky because the psychological desire will always be there. The real ugly drugs are alcohol and benzodiazepines ( Ativan, Xanax,) these were invented because barbiturates used to be prescribed for similar symptoms and they were much stronger than benzos. Heavy duty barbs like nembutal, seconal and Tuinal are no longer available. The only barb still made in phenobarbital which is used for alcohol or benzo withdrawal seizures. Seizures are what make alcohol and benzos the most dangerous drugs. They are the only drugs that can actually kill you. Opiates wd, can make you wish you were dead but it's relatively harmless. Opiates themselves are pretty harmless what happens when people. Oral use of hydro or oxycodone is pretty harmless but addicts who IV opiates develop a tolerance that make the level of opiate they take on board close to the level that shuts down body's respiration.

[sage2021]

@Crimsyjo
I had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and fibromyalgia in all 18 pressure points and multiple chemical sensitivity disorder.
I was bed bound (no stores, no restaurants, just hospitals and doctors appointments) for 16 years!!!
I finally went to a university hospital and at the time, I was on:
Morphine Sulfate
Oxycodone
Ativan
Trazadone
2 blood pressure medicines,
cigarettes
coffee
The doctor took me off ALL of these medications but did give me the nicotine patches and weaned me off the Morphine Sulfate for about 3 days then all I got was Tylenol.
I didn't have any withdrawals whatsoever - which is unbelievable to me after being on those meds for so many years.
Then I went to a wellness center for 6 months of grueling physical, occupational and speech therapy! 6 months!
I got totally all better and even my blood pressure was normal.
What still blows my mind to this day is when I first contacted the CFS, fibromyalgia and multiple chemical sensitivity all of a sudden there were clinics opened all over America for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.🤔
Don't you find that quite odd? And they made tons of money because all of a sudden people, mostly women were stricken with it. Something smells fishy in Denmark to me.
I'm not sure if those clinics are still in existence?
Three years later I still wasn't smoking!
But I did start to feel fatigued again.
Then when I got the 2 COVID vaccines, well, down I went!! They finished me off! So sick 🤢 again!! 😮 I still can't believe it and I wish to God I never had those COVID-19 vaccinations!! 😔

I am back on two of the meds you mentioned. My late boyfriend forgot to get one of my pain medications and it was over the 4th of July weekend and so I went into major withdrawals for four days! He said he had never seen anyone have such a horrific withdrawal before. Actually, he should have called 911 on me.

[Crimsyjo]

Oh dear what a horrible rollercoaster!!

I can't claim to understand much about the medications and side effects. I think a lot of doctors don't even know really. Or overlook how medications may mix harmfully. And obviously there is going to be all sorts of imbalances caused in the body!

[sage2021]

**CORRECTION**

WHEN I SAID THEIR BRAINS AREN'T DEFICIENT OF DOPAMINE THE AUTO CORRECT CHANGED IT FROM THEY ARE (WHICH IS WHAT I WROTE) TO AREN'T DEFICIENT 😶

[Crimsyjo]

I don't know. I spent my life never being addicted to smoking or drinking or drugs. My hub was addicted to the first two. And my next boyfriend all three. Oh and my recent ex to gambling.

My mum thinks I drink too much now. But I can easily not have a drink. I just like letting my hair down about twice a week dancing with tunes. Sometimes 3. But like all last week I wasn't in the mood.

Some might say I'm addicted to sex right now.. or taking risks? Maybe.

If you look at the brain well... it gives me an addictive high for sure. The adrenaline and dopamine and serotonin (and probably oxytocin) hits I get from receiving sexual attention, feeling attraction, feeling in love, doing something naughty are rewards that make me want to do it again. Can I stop? I feel like I can but then feel sad and unhappy. So then i dont want to. Absence of the cocktail of reward chemicals?

Do you get any sense of pleasure in doing the things you enjoy? Above average pleasure? And a sense of loss when stopping? Maybe your hormones are different. Either very stable or very low in people who don't get addicted easily?

[Lynx122]

Yes I do get a sense of pleasure but I think I am sensitive to negative feelings as well. Like when I drink or socialize a lot I'm already taking into account how exhausted I will be and maybe hungover and how it's gonna cost me the whole next day just to recover from this. That makes me less likely to engage in behaviors that might give me a big spike but then cost me later. I'm more invested in my overall wellbeing with consistency. Even if my level of pleasure in any moment might be a little lower overall I feel good because I don't have any lows either. When I was a teen I had more energy and could recover faster so I drank more when I was at a party or so, I wasn't worried about it but now I'm a lot more careful.

[Crimsyjo]

I can imagine having the awareness of consequences (exhaustion following too much engagement) can in itself dampen the "highs". Like if I was going to start thinking of pregnancy risk or std risk or that maybe I'll get hurt by a guy I'm sure my "highs" towards my activities would be a lot lower. Maybe that's a natural defense in the brain?
It's certainly a healthier place to be having a level of emotion instead of extremes.
I'm often describing my life like a rollercoaster with the ups and downs. The problem is I like the ups too much even with knowledge of the downs that will follow.
Is this addiction? Or the trap of addiction?

I wonder how you would manage in a relationship with someone less stable emotionally than yourself? Would you be able to bring them down into your calm space?
I feel maybe you avoid people like that though. Too much drama haha.

I know you were just curious but the main thing is you can regulate yourself well. Maybe because you had to from a young age or had people who did for you and so you learned how.

[Lynx122]

Could be I don't know exactly how it happened I think it's just because I don't like feeling shitty and I was willing to sacrifice things to avoid it as much as possible. And I think highs generally get less and less enjoyable over time so once I've experienced a bunch of different pleasures I didn't feel like chasing after that was worth the downside. But I have a friend who's very turned up and I think it's a good thing to experience that sometimes within reason. Because always making the responsible choice is also not amazing. So I think I can balance it by having friends who approach life differently than me :)

[purplepoppy]

Some people just have addictive personalities, it's genetic. However most of these people get hooked on something constructive like going to the gym. Part of rehabilitation is to redirect that addiction gene away from drugs on onto something constructive.

[Lynx122]

Yeah I think I struggle with motivation sometimes because I don't have an addictive personality. But I also wouldn't want the downsides of one I'm happy where I'm at :) But it is amazing what people can acomplish when they try to fill a void but in a constructive way.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Dropping the obvious physiological response to chemicals, we step into the lands of psychology.

To answer your question, it usually means 5 years of study, and after that, the answer will still depend on a patient's life story. And after that, we're not even sure to understand correctly this story.

Good luck finding your answer🍀

[Lynx122]

thank you :)
so I guess I'll just speculate then :)

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

There are a lot of interesting speculations to form yes !

[MemeSupreme]

upbringing, personality, genes, and how they cope with life... stuff like that

feel like it all stems from our parents and childhood in like how we respond to stuff

[Lynx122]

Do you have any experience with a bad childhood leading to addiction issues?

[MemeSupreme]

idkk if i'd call it addiction but definitely dependencies like on weed bc of issues due to my childhood. BUT i can be very self destructive intentionally during rough times and have explosive moments of stupidity to punish myself.

like at 13 i went to a math competition drunk (i smoked cigarettes during this period which was really fucking weird). accepting drugs from a stranger at a party or after my first prom in 10th grade i had a bad acid trip with friends by a train tracks. just stupid moments of where i wanted to escape life and punish myself.

[alice55]

I don't know, i'm not the kind of person that get addicted to things, one day I like something and the other I like another one so