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They are expensive, tacky, and inhumane. Yes, I eat meat, but not on my own guidelines. My dad makes me, plus I would like to become a vegetarian but it might be extremley hard since I was raised eating meat. So I am so used to the taste I probably will never entirely quite. I just don't like the idea of wearing an animal for no purpose other than looking good. Meat gives you protein and keeps you healthy. If you like it go ahead but you may get some dirty glares from me. My friend wore a bunny tail scarf and I cussed her out. I mean what is the point of that?! Yes its warm but there are other coats and scarfs that are just as warm. And if you really like the look of fur get a faux. Simple as that. They are less expensive and no animals were harmed. I feel the same about leather. Faux is the way to go.
They are expensive, tacky, and inhumane. Yes, I eat meat like all of you guys are talking about, but not on my own guidelines. My dad raised me on meat and I still eat it because that is what he cooks for dinner. I do want to be a vegetarian but it might be very hard since I grew up eating meat. Unlike meat fur coats have no purpose. Meat has protein and is good for your metabolism. You wear fur just to look good. Yah, it keeps you warm but so does other coats. Go ahead and wear it if you want but if you run into me expect to get some dirty glares. I mean if you really like the style that much just wear faux. Its less expensive and no cute little animals were harmed in the making. Same with leather, except when it comes to shoes and such. You can't really do anything there.
Fur coats rock!
Thanks!
With modern sensibilities, I would like to see regulation supporting farmed fur animals being kept and euthanized as humanely as possible. Those with this expensive taste should be willing to pay the price for humane conditions. I would also legislate domestic only as a means of avoiding the Chinese and others from circumventing humane regulation. On the other hand, I would want heavy legislation and enforcement against anything endangered.
That said, mink, ermine and chinchilla can be stunning furs.
There is no ethical or functional difference between wearing fur and wearing leather. If you wear leather and condemn fur you are a hypocrite.
very true. up vote for you. even if you are against it at least you use logic instead of emotion
not implying you are for or against fur
I disagree... Beef is one of the most highly consumed meats in America so most of the leather products you see are coming from cows who were already being killed for food anyway. The types of animals that are killed to make fur coat however (mink, fox, etc.) aren't typically used for food so they're being killed ONLY for their fur.
@UberTroll: What you are saying is pointless: Animals being killed for food are still being killed. Killing animals for food is as important as killing them for fur because they are both for survival. We need food to survive. We also need fur and/or leather to keep warm and thus to survive as well.
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I'm against it both because I don't believe in killing an innocent animal for it's fur. I could never hunt, even if it's for the meat. I couldn't bring myself to kill an animal. I'd rather starve in the wild and die than do that. I've seen videos of people clubbing animals, and then skinning them while they're still alive. It's insanely cruel and I don't understand how anyone could have the mental capacity to do something like that to something so innocent.
I also hate the look of fur on clothing. I think it looks tacky and just down right stupid. However, to each their own.
Also, I am kind of a hypocrite. I eat meat, I don't think I could ever give up a good cheeseburger. But I have cut back on my meat consumption. I definitely don't agree with killing an animal for it's fur though. That I am totally against.
I like them, but probably wouldn't actually wear a full fur coat.
Instead, I'd rather buy pelts of humanely treated animals, and embellish certain things with it.
Honestly, though, I don't see a problem with wearing them. The animal is already dead, it's not like you can bring it back by refusing to wear the fur :/
Mind you, I'm not a fan of killing the animal for JUST the fur. That's disgusting and wrong. 'Tis why any fur I do buy, comes from this little Native shop, where the animal was completely used, and respected. Or from thrift shops, where the fur is very old.
I think fur coats are OK, but if one is against fur, then WHY THE H**L wear coats imitating fur? Why go against something, and then wear something that looks like it? It'd be like me supporting Glasgow Celtics, but wear the Glasgow Rangers shirt... makes no sence...
I agree, especially since people that are against fur but wearing fake fur would pretty much be encouraging others to get fur products. Afterall, it's not like people can tell if a fur coat is real or fake, unless they analyse the coat at a very close distance, which obviously is hardly what happens.
I think fur coats are ugly and I don't approve of using real fur unless the entire animal was used or it died of natural causes.
That being said, I also don't approve of animal rights wackos throwing paint on people for wearing fur. That will happen if you live in a city like San Fran or the like.
ARE YOU SERIOUS PEOPLE?
we eat animals so we might as well wear them too, plus people have been wearing animals since freak'n cave men days. there is nothing wrong with wearing fur. if I was rich I would.
sign me up for a chinchilla coat please!
she isn't ugly. but that coat is FABULOUSSSSSS
even if you ignore the ethical side completely...I still think most of the time it looks really tacky and gaudy...,the opposite of real style which is about understated elegance.
It's what people wear when they want to SAY "i'm rich and stylish" not what people wear who actually ARE stylish.
i like fur coats for being comfortable, attractive, and most importantly, warm.
Fur coats have their uses, but there's controversy to it. So many people equate fur with murder.
thats sad that people see animals being as important as people
Regarding fake fur. Probably the same reason people eat soy beef, or tofu turkey. It's getting the thing you want without it weighing on you that something had to die. It's not so much promoting, as it is provision of an alternative.
isnt that still glorifying animal fur? soy/tofu stuff isn't made to look like real meat like faux fur attempts to do.
No, some soy and tofu is still made to look like real meats. I've had some. (though it was usually given to me) As for the fur, it's not still glorifying the fur itself. Just the look of it. Only without the guilt of people associating it (or trying to) with murder.
I love fur.
A lot of people bash fur in their leather boots and coats while sitting on their leather couch. What's the difference?!
Cattle are raised in much healthier conditions than animals that are raised for their coats. That the difference.
Ha! No they're not! Watch Earthlings.
They're all equally bad in different ways!
rational thought is refreshing
F*** yes. Where I live you don't really need them, but some weather gets so cold only real fur can warm you up.
I have like 3 leather jackets if that counts?
yep its just shaved fur lol
So are people who oppose fur, do they also dislike wool, cashmere and alpaca fur?
good question but I think we know that answer already...
My sister sent me a fur lined Bedouin robe from Saudi when I was in Iraq and it was cold. I flippin love that thing. It looks goofy as hell, but talk about warm!
If you're gonna eat meat, there's nothing wrong with using the rest of the critter. I don't know about raising and killing one just for its skin though. Seems like a waste and my ethics say if I'm gonna kill something I should use as much of it as possible.
i agree but that if your gonna use an animal for meat use the rest too. but that's not how they make the fur, when they make fur coats the animal they use is used only for the fur and the rest is wasted or mulched into pet food. and the animals are treated poorly before they are usedwhich is what I have a problem with. the fact that they are tortured before hand. if it was done more humane I wouldn't have a problem with it
Fur is sickening. Just google Chinese fur factories. They take animals in cages and electrocute them, if they are lucky, but more often times they skin the poor animal while alive. I think its heinous that we still wear fur even though our technology has allowed us to wear synthetic materials that are much cheaper and just as nice.
Can I point out, when you say "I didn't know so many people felt that animals were equal to people," I would say that many people who are against fur don't believe animals and people are equal, just that animals have a greater value than clothes.
Although personally, I would rate some animals as equal to humans,
I'm not into fur.
After seeing a writhing pile of skinned animals...no sir not for me.
And I agree with a lot of people on here: fur is usually gaudy and very ugly, it does the opposite of what the wearer desires (at least in the eyes of most of the populations) it makes the person look tacky and dated, like some aging nag trying to remember her glory days.
Everyone will hate you for something anyway! Wear that fur with pride!
trust me the haters here aren't going to deter me from wearing it. I already get hated on for having a nice body so its nothing new :)
wow just wow. looking good & wearing fur are reasons to hate a person... I repeat WOW
yOU KNOW the old me would have said absolutely NO to fur coats because it violates my kitty's rights and I LOVE KITTY'S but the new me has taken a keen liking to dogs because they tair at mens balls sacks if they love me enough and I tell them to so I say YES to fur coats because I really can not live without my dog.. and besides any kitty who does not know to run from a dog is a dumb kitty don't you think?
yes love fur. don't prefer a full fur coat but I like jean coats with fur
see pixiestix below you. how hot is that thing
To quote the wise words of P. Diddy "Pimp so hard, a nigga drag his mink on the floor"
to quote bishop don magic juan "cooold jack"
Yes wear it if it looks good
BUT ONLY IF
> from the old days
> from regulated, protected "farmed" food source animals whose fur would be wasted otherwise
> skins of poachers
> skins/furs from animals terrorizing villages
> "pets" that died from natural causes (odd? common practice if a longhorn, etc.)
I don't care, tbh. They are comfy, but nothing I really care for. And, while I can understand killing animals for food, that's survival and necessity, killing them for style? F***that. That's just shallow. But I'm not gonna go hatin on others who enjoy it. Just as long as they don't go after a species that's nigh extinct.
I think the fur off of live animals looks stupid. Its like tacky richness. I don't like it. Real or fake. I alsooo think it's one thing to hunt, but another to wear a dead animal. It's kind of barbaric and makes a statement like "ooh look at me I'm big Alfa me on top!". I eat meat, I wear leather boots, but I draw the line at fur.
Just get the fake stuff, and not kill the animal. I have people that get mad at me for wearing fake fur 'cause it's still promoting the death of animals' I say, 'how about those leather hiking boots, baby?' where do you think that came from?
Just remember while your sitting there feeling amazing & looking just dapper. That animal was stuck in some trap left to bleed, freeze then suffer to death, usually 2-3 days or longer. It's not like cows who are humanely shot in the temple with a bolt gun & killed instantly. If it's Mink that looks good on you, over 50 of them suffered in a trap just so you can look good.
Maybe that's why they went out of style in the 60s, except for Willie Dynamite the pimp & white haired old ladies.
all of the stuff you are saying is completely false. trapped animals are not left for days. if they were they would chew off their own leg and their fur would be a waste...go hunting/trapping and learn about it before you make false statements.
For every humane trapper there is a In-Humane trapper who only cares about money & if you think otherwise then you live in a cave. YOU go learn before you make statements & stop being so naive. I have seen documentaries & heard from old friends joking who do go coon hunting with barbed wire, & you are right, they do TRY to chew their limbs off but usually die beforehand.
yeah modern hunters & trappers dont. sportsmen don't do that crap either. documentaries are biased and never show the good guys or what happened just before the camera came on. barbed wire is illegal too. if an animal is left in a trap for days it becomes worthless so only trash does that.
I agree 100% with what you are saying. And yes they do also have humane farms but, what I am saying, & do know, there are trappers who are down right cruel, & a lot of them. I don't need someone to tell me to learn, when I know for a fact there are cruel trappers who have nothing on their mind but $$$, & a lot of them. And I still think that 50 animals die just so someone can "Look good" is ucked. Just my opinion.
dapper... lol
Rabbits, sheep, chinchillas and (I think) minks as well, are all farmed for their fur, and the rabbits and sheep are eaten. All are killed quickly and humanely. In fact, I don't think many people use traps any more at all. At least not in the western world. Baby seals of course, get special treatment. ;-)
Whoa, there are over 50 in mink coats? That's so cool! XD
just think 50 animals being glorified for their beauty and amazingness as an animal long past their natural life span
And just remember when you're downing that ribeye or fried chicken leg, that cow was probably beaten and those chickens were probably tortured and stuck in cages that breed disease
mmm extra tender lol
What the f*** people. You would kill innocent creatures just because their fur look or feel good. Faith in humanity is lost.
and you've never worn anything with leather?
Faith in humanity lost? Our earliest ancestors wore fur coats.
@ MakeLoveNotWar: Yes because they NEEDED it! and I'm sure they used the fur of the animals they hunted to eat! (They were smart) Unlike today, where the animals are skinned alive solely for their fur and and necessarily the one's killed for food and certainly not in a humane way.
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True. You got me there lol
Generally I'm against it. It's one thing if the animal(s) whose fur went into the coat was also used for food but I don't think that happens most of the time. I'd rather not see an animal killed simply for decoration.
"can anyone give a good reason why you wear faux fur if you are against actual fur...its still promoting fur."
Actually it's not... it's promoting synthetic fur which doesn't harm animals. You can still have the look and feel of fur without the bloodshed.
I hate that people justify that they like fur coats by saying things like its soft and a fashionable, etc. Its called murder, maybe not in the human-context but essentially its soft because it was taken from an animal in its prime. It is disgusting to see people killing innocent animals for profit and fashion, as if material gain justifies killing an animal. Don't even bother saying things like we kill cows for food and things like that because that is justifiable, it is a necessity and is an Animal Instinct, also a lot of them are not killed in their prime. Fashion is not a necessity or part of our Animal Instincts.
'fashion' is part of animal instinct, have you ever looked at males in almost any species. most birds, deer and all kinds of fish use 'fashion'.
animals are not even close to the level of humans.
oh, please. Fur is murder and you know it. Nothing can justify killing an animal.
fur is murder hahaha makes sense when people are more willing to help a dirty diseased dog than a homeless person.
anthropomorphism...thats cute...almost as cute as a mink :P
Murder is when you kill humans, and if you think that animals that are butchered for food aren't "in their prime" then you don't know the first thing about where your food comes from. Furthermore, meat is NOT a necessity, so you should become a vegan if you feel this strongly about it.
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Enough said. If its synthetic then you're good to go. But don't support the mistreatment of animals ):
wearing fur doesn't support mistreatment of animals. almost all of those animals would be worthless for thier fur and it looks like they are from the same place. so...
No, they're not! Have you ever watched a documentary on fur farms? How is an innocent life worthless unless its being used to clothe you?! People like you make me sick.
those torn up beat up mangled animals that look like they are all from the same 'farm' in eastern Europe russia or china circa 1980 would not be worth anything.
with what the 2 of you have said, I hope you don't eat meat of any kind (including seafood) and I hope you have never killed a fly or spider since every creature is equally important
Why not? I don't use fur as I don't think its' all that nice... but at the same time it's no different than using wool or duck down most of which everyone will use without a 2nd thought.
Just because there is something that equals it doesn't mean they're both good :p
fake ones (the ones you don't need to kill animals to do that)... sure, why not?
They do feel amazing and are super warm but they have to be done well and not in the 80's overkill kind of way. Its funny how people call them outdated and then go out and buy the fake ones (yes even the ones with just the trimmings). If you are gonna get something that looks like fur and functions as fur it may as well be the real thing. The fake ones look super tacky and ghetto... ew.
I like fur coats, the way I see it, our ancestors have been wearing them for years to keep warm. I have a fur coat, I have a bear skin rug (I actually shot the bear myself and ate the meat in a stew) I have rabbit fur slippers I bought that were hand made and beaded, they are breathtakingly beautiful and have lasted me over ten years.
I am against the farming of animals specifically just for their fur. Though.
It depends where you live.
I wear fur, there will always be fur coats. Humans have hunted for thousands of years the same way and it will never change. I personally would not buy an endangered animal fur, but I would wear it If I had it but not in a very populace place and sparingly.
Like the Native Americans - respect what nature gives them.
My family owns 4-5? fur coats. One or two of them are from animals that continue to live.
It really depends on your location, use, your values... the problem with the fur trade is actually a government problem. Governments these days are spineless, and are afraid to make necessary concessions that would anger people. If the government wanted to really monitor the trade they would, but there are all kinds of other problems like where does the $ come from and why is the system so inefficient.
to change the government - a GREAT DEAL would have to happen. Governments would have to revise many systems and grow large backbones to deal with unethical practice like animal abuse around the world by other countries. Its not going to happen for a very very long time. Till then treat nature like the Native Americans do.
Hi there, I voted that I don't approve of real fur.
Faux fur isn't promoting actual fur in my opinion.
Animals have amazing colors and designs, and you can obviously wear a coat that isn't a real animal and I think that's fine, because an animal didn't have to die for that coat. Just like if I bought a wallet with zebra stripes on it or something. No animal died in the making of it...
That's just what I think...
im sure theyre pretty warm but honestly theyre not cool. theyre def out of style and just look cheesy/tacky/lame like some old rich woman who loves her diamonds.
now, fur padded ones are different those are cool, like the abercrombie ones that have thermal protection on the inside those are nice fur ones.
I am 1000% against fur of any sort and no f***ing way would I ever wear fake fur because it is still promoting real fur! And people who wear it make me sick to my goddamn stomach.I am huge animal lover and would never wear fur for any reason! Unless I was living in a really cold place and the animal was killed for meat and nothing was wasted.
I would totally wear a fur coat if it looked nice and was WARM, especially since I hate winter
I like fur as much as I would like to see your dog or cat, if you had one, skinned for a pair of mittens. So fashionable but as long as buster feels great on your skin & it makes you look wealthy, alls good.
Maybe hang their head above the fireplace, how adorable would that be.
animals are animals. fox or schnauzer, bobcat or kittycat theyre the same animals.
I think its a shame to waste vintage fur coats as animal lives were lost for it.
I think breading sepcifically for fur is wrong and disagree with this done in modern times.
Although if fur is a waste product of meat think it is more aceptable.
Just like we don't waste cow skin from gaining meat.
I would wear a fake fur coat. If you wear real fur in public you run the risk of being mobbed!
how can you tell if its fake or real without getting really close or looking at the tag?
Experience I suppose :p
Yeah they're soft, but I think they're really ugly.
I agree with Ace Ventura here:
https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=bWEgibvMxic
Anyone wearing them remind me of Cruella de Vil D:
fur is cool f*** the animal lover theyre so dumb humanity was founded on the consumption of meat and early humans wore fur its like going back to a primeval state and looking fashionable at the same time
I voted "A"...although I'm not a big fan of fur clothing (I would look like a actual pimp lol), if I EVER did find something that I liked, I'd wear it.
then you could change your name to prof don magic juan
How does fake fur promote real fur? Seems like it promotes warm fuzzy soft clothes that aren't fur..
its still promoting the look of that cute fuzzy animal. if it looks like fur which is what people are saying, how do you know if it is real or not?
i can tell because I've actually gone hunting & trapping but most people cant
That makes sense in a way, but I don't think the prevalence of fake fur makes people buy more real fur. Just the price difference is enough to keep most folks from doing it. That said, I have a Soviet Navy fur officers hat that I wear when I'm hunting and whatever critters died to make that thing have my undying gratitude. :-)
They are so unbelievably soft and comfortable
I don't wear them and I'm not too fond of the appearance of fur coats, but I completely understand the appeal of them.
Yay
I'm not that into the way they look, personally. I like more streamlined outerwear. Just a preference.
It looks stupid and way too 1950s hooker-like. Awful.
To fur coats I say a clear yes. They look very chic, are warm and cuddly and I like to wear furs
If I could avoid it I wouldn't want new fur, but a vintage fur coat you can do nothing about. In that time it was more widely acceptable. Fur cats are really nice.
Animals are not equal to people... but they shouldn't be slaughtered just for fashion. I don't mind hide coats in cold climates, but fur just for fur's sake is unnecessary.
i put no cause fur coats never look good. They are out of style.
It's not about the animals for me.
Fur coats are just tacky.
It's not my style, but some people look nice in them.
In Canada you're not allowed to be against fur unless you hate natives.
Natives hunt or use animals that die of natural causes. I'm Metis, and I don't know any of my native relatives of wearing fur from farms.
Most recent data I could find is that 50-60% of all trappers in Canada are native.
No sh*t. I have nothing against trap lines, my great grandfather built and established one of the first Hudson's bay trading posts in the NWT. Many of my relatives trap occasionally. The difference is, the animals aren't raised in tiny cages with no quality of life, then slaughtered for the fur only. They are a source of food, as well as being used for their fur. And if you have other textiles available, and it's not part of your culture, why?!
Don't like the look of it about 99% of the time. Unless it makes me look like the world's most awesome pimp I'm not interested.
Its not so much that I'm against wearing fur. I just think they look weird.
fair enough thanks for not going to childish name calling
why are you so PRO fur?
yes, we eat meat, yes we wear leather, but both those purposes are primarily functional, animals are going to get killed, I am arguing there, but they shouldn't be killed for pointless stupid reasons. ...unless you are an Inuit and or live in the arctic circle you do NEED a fur coat in any capacity, and the ratio of suffering by the animals vastly outweighs the trivial gain to your comfort and fashion needs
*do not need
im PRO individual rights & freedoms. where do you get the balls to tell someone what they do or don't need. why make exceptions for inuits or people in the arctic?
no, believe it or not you don't actually have the individual right to do whatever the f*** you want to everything the planet.
pretty much anything short of harming a person you actually do have that right. would you care to explain how inuits are special? or how you can determine what a person needs?
Inuits are different because they live in a harsher environment and the fur they use is from animals they already killed themselves for food and survival...
the rest of your comments I'm not even going to bother addressing because you are obviously just a spoiled brat.
lol spoiled because I think people should be able to wear fur of any animal that isn't endangered or spoiled because I don't agree with you or am I spoiled because I upset you while calling you out on your hypocrisy? do you think inuits are eating fox?
spoiled because you think the world owes you it's every resource for your personal disposal
and because you can't tell the difference between need and want...that or you're just to stupid to grasp basic ethics.
calling someone stupid & using ethics in the same sentence. pot meet kettle.
i don't think any thing owes me a single thing.
na, so many better coats out there. unless you're very rich, and can pull that off!
-love Sosa
I love fur, sign me up for a fox fur coat:) It is fabulous and femine, a lot better than some cheap synthetic fiber Chinese/sweat shop made coat that will fall apart from a few wears.
Furs are from animals, and this what prompted them to walk the way through extinction.
Before you buy anything FUR consider this!
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and it's so sad they cut their vocal chords to avoid hearing their cries. :[
Wear your OWN skin losers!
do they removal a predatory species's vocal chords to avoid hearing the cries (of pain as you imply) or is it so that they can keep more than 2 animals within eyesight of each other without having to hear constant howling & barking...
have some class and stop spamming everybody that doesn't agree with you
HAHA
View as you'd like, but that is not the purpose.
Just teaching what some have not learned. Once the know it, if they decide to still proceed with this sickening act, then that's their choice. But they have the right to know how it REALLY is.
It's disgusting.
Wear your OWN skin!
What type of fur are we talking about. Some fur is better than others.
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