I'm afraid that's life , both genders have shit to deal with... it's not great being a 20 something guy with a high sex drive & normally for most average guys in this range , little if any outlet for this , as the female counterparts are highly sought after by all age ranges , many younger guys would love a cougar... did have a fling with a 33 yr old when I was 19 , but was posted abroad , serving soldier at the time.
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i think this is a very good thing. all women who think they're hot shit should read this to so they can be brought back down to earth.
if i were a forty year old man, why would i date a forty year old woman if i can have a young twenty-two year old hottie?
it runs in the family. the lady i know as my mother was actually my nanny when i was very young, who my dad cheated on my mom with and then got married to. i've only met my 'real' mother a few times. if my dad could do it, why can't i?
We can't help finding young women more attractive. Just as girls don't choose to be more attracted to older guys. There are evolutionary reasons for why this is one sided. A woman's fertility and viability of her offspring decreases with age, from her early twenties onwards. A guys doesn't really until he gets much older, yet a mature guy will have more resources to support a child, and having survived for decades demonstrates that he possess at least reasonable genes.
It would be great if the ages between lead actors and their female partners were to become more commensurate, provided you want movies to stop selling. Script writers don't create standards; they reflect them. And no one keeps older actresses from watching their diets or hitting the gym. Your efforts to gather statistics are admirable, but I fear misguided.
Jennifer Aniston still makes movies and she is almost 50, it's not about youth it's about beauty. Younger women tend to be more beautiful/sexually appealing.
I think the figures slightly mislead as the Ok Cupid result will not represent the general population. They represent people who have turned to online dating to find romance. The older men are more than likely divorced or have left a long term relationship. In this case they will not be looking for a suitable life partner but a young girl to fuck. I think the figures are skewed and a little misleading.
On the other hand, these young women are dating this older men for their money, so it's disgusting both ways. Men are just visual pigs in this sense and women are greedy about some extra cash. Personally, I like older guys and would never date a guy younger than me but I won't date a guy 30 and over. They have to be in their 20's or my age.
There is a small "biological" factor for women as when it comes to marriage and having children. However I always blame the community AND some women (who not only accept this but also are obsessed by being sexually-objectified), who are mind slaved by looks and perfecting their body.
Men age gracefully, generally speaking. Also many girls love older men so it's not nessecarily our fault.
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i'm not blaming anyone. i just think by doing this Hollywood is exacerbating the problem of the already existent obsession with youth in women. It just reinforces my view that women are valued in society primarily for their appearance. So much for equality.
I agree, it's hard to blame men for liking women who are younger when so many women prefer men who are older. It's literally the same exact form of discrimination, just in reverse. How can you blame either gender for mutual, complimentary preferences? I'm sure 28 year old women don't like that guys prefer 23 year old women, but I don't like that 23 year old women prefer 28 year old men. It is what it is.
No, I mean there are many other issues surrounding this topic such as in other jobs where women are quickly replaced by younger women before they can reach the top of a company. Studies show that a woman's career is effectively 'over' by the time she reaches 45, whereas it is 55 for men.
Not to mention the 'shelf life' of older female music artists. Madonna is in her mid-50s and is often ridiculed about menopause etc. and not taken seriously. On the flip side, older males like Paul McCartney who is in his 70s is still widely respected and applauded.
@takeowner, if it were true that a woman was replaced by a younger woman because she was more attractive, then it is also true that the younger woman got the job unfairly. The younger woman reaped the unfair benefits (which men don't get, keep in mind) at the expense of the older woman. Young women have it better than young men and older women have it worse than older men. If you look at the opinion I posted 3 days ago, I explain that that is exactly what happens, women get unfairly raised up above everyone when they are young and then they have to deal with losing those benefits and then some. As I said, the bigger they are, the harder they fall and this system is unfair to everyone at some point. You can't complain that the older women lost her job to the younger woman without also complaining that the younger woman got the job unfairly over her similarly aged male peers.
at what point did i say she's replaced due to her attractiveness or lack thereof? oh wait, i didn't. What I mean is, age in men is associated with wisdom and experience, age in women is associated with menopause and fatigue. Hence, why I said there is more than just physical attractiveness to this problem @tyber1
@tyber1 fuck that, never have I gotten a job because of the way I look. I have to work just as hard, if not harder, than men to be HEARD in the workplace. I am taken less seriously because I am a young woman. Last time I checked, I live in a meritocracy so I hand in my resume just like everyone else, except when I reach a certain age, that will change and they will replace me with younger women unlike my male counterparts
I have no desire to date someone who is old enough to be my father. That's why I got off online dating - too many dirty old men looking for a mid-life crisis fuck.
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Men like older women as well. You must be very sheltered if you've never heard of milfs or cougars. It's just that women WANT to be with older men. That's your fault not ours that you like older instead of younger. Guys like women of all ages. Women only like guys who are older.
If you look at the poll though, your statement is not supported, granted that it is probably biased. It's not so much older or younger so much as the age gap difference. Sure, men can be attracted to older women and if reciprocated these women are often called cougars or cases of women dating much older men (tends to be for money), so yes there are outliers, but this is not the average. The reason many women prefer (slightly) older men has to do with older men tending to be more (theoretically) developmentally mature (men on average take a little bit longer than women) and likely having more resources to support women and potential family and having higher status. Of course, this is usually subconscious. Attraction on an individual basis can be complicated and influenced by many other factors.
Women start puberty, on average, two years earlier than men. Stupid people took that to mean guys will always be two years less mature than women their same age. If dating older men grants you higher status then I don't see what the issue is since the whole men dating younger women thing is what this take is bitching about...
Again, it's not so much the fact that men dating younger women and women preferring older men is a trend so much as the huge age gap that bothers me from the male perspective of this poll. I would be creeped out that someone as old or older than my parents would find my sexually attractive is all.
I think then it's just a difference between the minds of young men and young women since young men don't really have a problem with older women finding them attractive. Hell it happens and is even encouraged in movies like The Graduate or the deans wife in Animal House where it's specifically been noted that the woman is much older and the guy is hardly even an adult but they screw because of it. In the movies the take has the age difference between actors may be large but it might not even be noticed in the movie as the age difference is not even a subject matter in the movie. Carrie Fisher may have been much younger than Harrison Ford but she didn't look much younger and in the movies they appear to be around the same age.
Thinking back, I guess I can be a bit hypocritical because I find some significant molder men attractive, but usually only celebrities. Even then, I am not sure I could see myself actually in a relationship with a man that much older than me in real life no matter how attractive I perceived him to be. I guess I see your point though.
I think The obsession with older age for men in our society as compared to women is disgusting. Women nowadays are dating and marrying guys 20 years older than them! They hide behind it with a disgusting excuse, "I like older and more mature men".
Even though this is human nature, 30's shouldn't even be that old. At this rate, they'll probably make marriage for 17 and 16 year olds legal then onto the minors.
I think it's gross but tbh it's true. Most guys and girls in their 20s are at their peak. Though dating someone at that age when you're an old fart is disgusting.
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I'm not going to apologize for finding younger, more attractive women to be more youthful and attractive :)
nah i have dated a 30+ year old women now... people should date 5 years younger or older than them
also a woman's weakest virtue is her looks
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If I was a older woman I would be frustrated myself. However this is one of the VERY FEW double standards men get to enjoy in life. Go ahead and challenge me to make list of the double standards women get enjoy in the western world and I'll write on GAG all day long. Considering all the feminist male bashing hate I see out there I'll gladly take this one.
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I'm afraid that's life , both genders have shit to deal with... it's not great being a 20 something guy with a high sex drive & normally for most average guys in this range , little if any outlet for this , as the female counterparts are highly sought after by all age ranges , many younger guys would love a cougar... did have a fling with a 33 yr old when I was 19 , but was posted abroad , serving soldier at the time.
i think this is a very good thing. all women who think they're hot shit should read this to so they can be brought back down to earth.
if i were a forty year old man, why would i date a forty year old woman if i can have a young twenty-two year old hottie?
Who said you can get a 22 year old at 40?
You probably can't get anyone now. 😂
it runs in the family. the lady i know as my mother was actually my nanny when i was very young, who my dad cheated on my mom with and then got married to. i've only met my 'real' mother a few times. if my dad could do it, why can't i?
@been_waiting
The douche apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, huh.
why are you calling my dad a douche?
We can't help finding young women more attractive. Just as girls don't choose to be more attracted to older guys. There are evolutionary reasons for why this is one sided. A woman's fertility and viability of her offspring decreases with age, from her early twenties onwards. A guys doesn't really until he gets much older, yet a mature guy will have more resources to support a child, and having survived for decades demonstrates that he possess at least reasonable genes.
It would be great if the ages between lead actors and their female partners were to become more commensurate, provided you want movies to stop selling. Script writers don't create standards; they reflect them. And no one keeps older actresses from watching their diets or hitting the gym. Your efforts to gather statistics are admirable, but I fear misguided.
Jennifer Aniston still makes movies and she is almost 50, it's not about youth it's about beauty. Younger women tend to be more beautiful/sexually appealing.
they are not misguided they are fucking facts lmao. i get that but hollywood is a pile of wank altogether.
"and for men their age to be interested in them."
Hey everyone, this person says to ignore billions of years of evolutionary progress because her feelings are hurt. Let's get to it!
Women never want to look at themselves for blame.
@CorruptedDocument
I don't think anyone should be "blamed", it's just that evolution has primed us to see young women as more attractive.
@CorruptedDocument blame for what? Getting older like a normal human?
Just one more example of how modern feminism doesn't address the situation of most women in the USA. Most feminists are with men much older, also.
So they are part of the problem of exploitation of women, mainly young women, not a part of any solution.
I think the figures slightly mislead as the Ok Cupid result will not represent the general population. They represent people who have turned to online dating to find romance. The older men are more than likely divorced or have left a long term relationship. In this case they will not be looking for a suitable life partner but a young girl to fuck. I think the figures are skewed and a little misleading.
Still, I do agree with the general points made.
Society is stupid. I summarize it like this:
Do both men and women have ridiculous societal standards?
Absolutely.
Do men and women have the same amount of ridiculous societal standards?
No. Women are clearly sexualized much more often though neither standards are okay to have.
www.pbs.org/.../
On the other hand, these young women are dating this older men for their money, so it's disgusting both ways. Men are just visual pigs in this sense and women are greedy about some extra cash. Personally, I like older guys and would never date a guy younger than me but I won't date a guy 30 and over. They have to be in their 20's or my age.
Nah, it's not about money at all. You may think it is, but that's just your inherent cynicism shining through.
There is a small "biological" factor for women as when it comes to marriage and having children.
However I always blame the community AND some women (who not only accept this but also are obsessed by being sexually-objectified), who are mind slaved by looks and perfecting their body.
Men age gracefully, generally speaking. Also many girls love older men so it's not nessecarily our fault.
i'm not blaming anyone. i just think by doing this Hollywood is exacerbating the problem of the already existent obsession with youth in women. It just reinforces my view that women are valued in society primarily for their appearance. So much for equality.
I agree, it's hard to blame men for liking women who are younger when so many women prefer men who are older. It's literally the same exact form of discrimination, just in reverse. How can you blame either gender for mutual, complimentary preferences? I'm sure 28 year old women don't like that guys prefer 23 year old women, but I don't like that 23 year old women prefer 28 year old men. It is what it is.
unfortunately, the problem is much deeper than physical attraction but i won't bore you with it. have a nice day :)
It's not deep at all. It's just the way things are. Hollywood potrays ideals that are rarely realistic, but it's entertainment for a reason.
Please do bore me 'cause I wouldn't mind hearing the other side.
No, I mean there are many other issues surrounding this topic such as in other jobs where women are quickly replaced by younger women before they can reach the top of a company. Studies show that a woman's career is effectively 'over' by the time she reaches 45, whereas it is 55 for men.
Not to mention the 'shelf life' of older female music artists. Madonna is in her mid-50s and is often ridiculed about menopause etc. and not taken seriously. On the flip side, older males like Paul McCartney who is in his 70s is still widely respected and applauded.
@takeowner, if it were true that a woman was replaced by a younger woman because she was more attractive, then it is also true that the younger woman got the job unfairly. The younger woman reaped the unfair benefits (which men don't get, keep in mind) at the expense of the older woman. Young women have it better than young men and older women have it worse than older men. If you look at the opinion I posted 3 days ago, I explain that that is exactly what happens, women get unfairly raised up above everyone when they are young and then they have to deal with losing those benefits and then some. As I said, the bigger they are, the harder they fall and this system is unfair to everyone at some point. You can't complain that the older women lost her job to the younger woman without also complaining that the younger woman got the job unfairly over her similarly aged male peers.
at what point did i say she's replaced due to her attractiveness or lack thereof? oh wait, i didn't. What I mean is, age in men is associated with wisdom and experience, age in women is associated with menopause and fatigue. Hence, why I said there is more than just physical attractiveness to this problem @tyber1
@tyber1 fuck that, never have I gotten a job because of the way I look. I have to work just as hard, if not harder, than men to be HEARD in the workplace. I am taken less seriously because I am a young woman. Last time I checked, I live in a meritocracy so I hand in my resume just like everyone else, except when I reach a certain age, that will change and they will replace me with younger women unlike my male counterparts
I have no desire to date someone who is old enough to be my father. That's why I got off online dating - too many dirty old men looking for a mid-life crisis fuck.
Men like older women as well. You must be very sheltered if you've never heard of milfs or cougars. It's just that women WANT to be with older men. That's your fault not ours that you like older instead of younger. Guys like women of all ages. Women only like guys who are older.
If you look at the poll though, your statement is not supported, granted that it is probably biased. It's not so much older or younger so much as the age gap difference. Sure, men can be attracted to older women and if reciprocated these women are often called cougars or cases of women dating much older men (tends to be for money), so yes there are outliers, but this is not the average. The reason many women prefer (slightly) older men has to do with older men tending to be more (theoretically) developmentally mature (men on average take a little bit longer than women) and likely having more resources to support women and potential family and having higher status. Of course, this is usually subconscious. Attraction on an individual basis can be complicated and influenced by many other factors.
Women start puberty, on average, two years earlier than men. Stupid people took that to mean guys will always be two years less mature than women their same age. If dating older men grants you higher status then I don't see what the issue is since the whole men dating younger women thing is what this take is bitching about...
Again, it's not so much the fact that men dating younger women and women preferring older men is a trend so much as the huge age gap that bothers me from the male perspective of this poll. I would be creeped out that someone as old or older than my parents would find my sexually attractive is all.
I think then it's just a difference between the minds of young men and young women since young men don't really have a problem with older women finding them attractive. Hell it happens and is even encouraged in movies like The Graduate or the deans wife in Animal House where it's specifically been noted that the woman is much older and the guy is hardly even an adult but they screw because of it. In the movies the take has the age difference between actors may be large but it might not even be noticed in the movie as the age difference is not even a subject matter in the movie. Carrie Fisher may have been much younger than Harrison Ford but she didn't look much younger and in the movies they appear to be around the same age.
Fair points.
Thinking back, I guess I can be a bit hypocritical because I find some significant molder men attractive, but usually only celebrities. Even then, I am not sure I could see myself actually in a relationship with a man that much older than me in real life no matter how attractive I perceived him to be. I guess I see your point though.
*older
"Molder"
Molder...
MOLDER!
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Haha, oh that's nasty! 😝
Yea if I had a nickel for every time an older woman said she wasn't my "mom" I'd be freaking rich!
I think The obsession with older age for men in our society as compared to women is disgusting. Women nowadays are dating and marrying guys 20 years older than them! They hide behind it with a disgusting excuse, "I like older and more mature men".
Did you see her charts? Most women are interested in men who are around their age, not too much older
Even though this is human nature, 30's shouldn't even be that old. At this rate, they'll probably make marriage for 17 and 16 year olds legal then onto the minors.
women tend to lookd like wrinkled grocery bags when they get older. men look like high quality leather sacks when they get older.
hahha love this!
I think it's gross but tbh it's true. Most guys and girls in their 20s are at their peak. Though dating someone at that age when you're an old fart is disgusting.
I'm not going to apologize for finding younger, more attractive women to be more youthful and attractive :)
nah i have dated a 30+ year old women now...
people should date 5 years younger or older than them
also a woman's weakest virtue is her looks
If I was a older woman I would be frustrated myself. However this is one of the VERY FEW double standards men get to enjoy in life. Go ahead and challenge me to make list of the double standards women get enjoy in the western world and I'll write on GAG all day long. Considering all the feminist male bashing hate I see out there I'll gladly take this one.