Great take! I 100% agree with the "cute guys who dont know their cute, makes him cuter". I personally love beautiful girls who dont know their beautiful.
FIRST, don't judge because im only 15. In our discussion, as serp777 said : girls friendzone a man who is gentleman just because he hold respect for them and their rights. A douchebag, and don't try correct me, is ALWAYS an agressive dude. Agressive results to masculity. A masculinity results to attractiveness because it is incorporated as attractive to the woman's (whoever that woman is) DNA. This article also disproves your whole take: content:/.../0605113519.mhtml
Masculinity isn't only about agressiveness. And girls don't friendzone a single and porticular type of guy. They friendzone the guy they aren't into and the guys that they don't like. You can't say guys friendzone gentlemen or nice guys or whatever because we all have our own preferences and there is always people who like nice guys and others who like douchebags. And as I said, ALL girls like gentlemen. And youu can't say I'm wrong since you're not a girl. And every girl here agreed on this.
Oh trust me, I know that. I have been asked out by several guys who I was attracted to but I refused to go out with them cuz when we started talking and having actual convos, they turned out to be either dumb or weird. I still find them attractive but I don't look at them the same way. Now if you would please stop judging females and generalising us, I would appreciate it. Cuz apparently, we're all that dumb now, are we?
Personally I don't like the "real gentlemen wear suits" stereotype because as long as you treat someone nicely, with respect etc (what you listed above" it won't matter if they wear or suit or not. It will also depend on where you are going and how old you are. Clothes you wear should in my opinion just be clothes that you feel comfortable in (which helps confidence) and they look good, regardless of whether you see everyone wearing something similar or not
I know I know.. I didn't say that wearing a suit will make u a gentleman, I said that we like men in suits. And yes, what u wear should not define the person u are. I forgot to mention this in the post
I understand :) I agree with the points you made under "being a gentleman" (even though I thought most of them are regular common courtesy and how everyone should act but owell, I've seen those points a lot so I guess it isn't that common) I just thought I'd mention my point about fashion and whatever as the picture said "class is for men" or whatever :P
I want the guy who's a gentleman, just as a result of having respect for people and not because he's trying.
I agree that confidence tends to be the problems with nice guys. Lads, insecurity isn't attractive.
(Also - generalising women! It's not just the nice guys who do this... but one self-professed "nice guy" actually kept referring to "generic women" and how they just couldn't appreciate him. Not a good sign, I don't think!)
This is actually pretty generalized towards guys too... People have different personalities, and some people are more compatible with each other than others.
Also, at my school, the popular guys were nice, some were funny, they were all athletic, many got good grades, most were good looking, and they all got good looking girls. They fucking had it all. Which kinda messed up my perspective.
Good my take lol I especially hate the nice girls who go for the douche bags and think they can change him that is seriously the most annoying thing ever, but I do disagree when you said for gentleman he should do anything for his girl I disagree with this cause if you keep giving her what she wants she will think she can get anything out of you and she will take advantage of that niceness and treat you like a door mat. I think when she gets out of line you shouldn't be afraid to stand up to her that's one of the biggest problems men have towards women they are afraid to stand up to a hot bitch or just when their women gets out of line in a relationship we all need to draw a red line.
Lol I did not say that the man should do every single thing his girl asks him to. Men have their rights as much as we do. And they need to be respected and treated the want them to treat us. The guy should have masculinity in him, meaning he should stand up for himself when it's the case. If he just sits there and says "yes" to everything the girl tells him them that doesn't make him a man. And it would be boring anyway. So yea, I did not mean that guys have to be robots for girls (god forbid).
36.media.tumblr.com/.../...cr2DAC1qjaqsho1_500.jpg A suit and a fedora SHOULD NOT be worn on an ever day basis, those men in the top photo with "swag" are better dressed for casual settings than the men in the bottom.
I'm not saying that suits should be worn everyday, and that it's important for a guy to be in one. I just said that guys in suits look good. Of course, in the end, the should wear what he's comfortable in.
Those fellas are high tier male models sporting designer brands that are worth more than most people's beater cars. If that is what women want then well... About 90% of men around the world or doomed to die alone. That's an unrealistic expectation to impress upon men! @Hannah591 and @BumbleSuperBee
That was not my point. M not asking you too wear suits and ties everyday. I just said it's nice and attractive to see a guy all dressed up in a classy way (in times). Geez. Just as you guys like it when a girl is in a fancy tight dress and heels, we like it when guys are in suits. I'm not asking anyone to dress like that. Chill. @WordSmithing
@WordSmithing Well I don't know where you live, but I live in a city and a large amount of men dress similar to the men I posted. It's not entirely necessary in dating but it's a huge plus.
awesome post, I hope all the man out there can be crystal clear what kind of guy that we want and looking for for the rest of our life, and stop thinking that all of us is chasing jerks. I totally agree only bitch attracted to jerks, so avoid attracted to bitch. good point!
So there are three types of men. Well, that summed up the mystery right there. Ironically:
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GIRLS YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOUR CHOICE IN GIRLS. THIS IS GETTING REALLY RIDICULOUS HOW PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE ALL FEMALES FIGURED OUT. NO YOU DON'T. A FEW WOMEN DO NOT EQUAL BILLIONS OF OTHER WOMEN."
Wouldn't it be easier just to be yourself and not to care about your surroundings at all. I mean who cares if someone likes you it'll just happen. You'll know when it happens because it's gut instinct. So why try so hard on something so pointless. Just go with the flow and be yourself. . . forget about classification. You are who you are.
That is a terrible mentality to have. Honestly speaking, you have to continually work to improve yourself. Don't follow your feelings because they're rarely right. People don't naturally get educated or earn money, everyone has to put effort into it -the same goes for attaining a good woman/man. You have to work for one; you work on your character and you apply effort to make it happen.
If you are always working on yourself and stuff, then you will never be happy. There will always be something to fix, something to be worked on. That's a pretty cool receipt to contract unhealthy amounts of stress, and potentially illness and depression.
The best mentality I've read so far is to accept how things are right now, and accept that you will do everything you can to fix them, but it's no big deal if you can't fix them or if problems keep recurring. First you accept things as they are, THEN you try to change them. Doing stuff the other way around will always result in a massive disaster.
You make a LOT of assumptions. How do you know that if you always work on self then you'll never be happy? I can't think of a single scenario where this is true. In fact, it's when you stop working that you become the most unhappy. The immediate example that comes to my mind is boxing. When I don't train, I get my butt kicked, when I do train... then at least I can feel like I did something about it lol. Also, if you accept who you are than why would you attempt to change?
Eh, I agree with some points and disagree with others. You make it sound like a girl is only interested in one type of guy. Like if I don't walk around everywhere with a suit then no girl would be interested in me, which is clearly wrong. Attraction isn't a checklist. It's not you have to do this, this, and that. It's far more fluid than that.
Being a gentleman and being classy isn't about the suits. It's about the way you behave. And I think all girls agree on the fact that we wanna be treated right and with respect. Like a true gentleman does.
I don't quite get what you're saying, you have a whole section on how crucial confidence is, and then go on to say that a guy not knowing he is cute/pretty is a good thing. Do you want a guy who's confident in his appearance and ability to get a girl, or a guy who doesn't realise that he's attractive?
What I meant by confidence is being able to approach a girl and keep the conversation going without being awkward or uncertain of himself. A guy who doesn't know he's cute doesn't necessarily have to think he's ugly.
She wants a guy who is unaware of how pretty/cute he is so she can have an upper hand and manipulate him in the relationship by making him think she is the best he can ever get. It's a form of sociopathic manipulation.
I liked your take, because I have recently realized it is true. I used to be the nice guy with envy of douchebags, but now I realized (she made me realize) the difference between nice guys and gentlemans. Keep sharing your takes! PS- I don't think the friendzone really exists... it's just an excuse for nice guys not to go for her.
I know many "nice guys"(the guys she described) who get girls because they're wealthy, privileged, and can shower them with gifts. Women in our age group for the most part are closed-minded and are gold-diggers.
I don't know which women you hang around but the ones I know aren't close-minded or gold-diggers. They do have standards and know what they want in a partner. Also some people rather have a life of "oh wells" instead of "what ifs".
@Touglyforfemales That's pretty pathetic. Just because you believe that you personally are a piece of shit doesn't mean all men are pieces of shit. Girls don't have to call themselves gold diggers to please one guy who has a pessimistic view on the world.
Really proof how wrong I am? You really think the majority of men care about your feelings? LOL Most are thinking about the next girl their gonna sleep with. Sound like your admitting your a gold digger?
the sort of advice in this post is exactly what leads guys into being bitter 'nice guy' virtual misogynists. I will try to remember it to refer to when I point out things 'nice guys' believe and women ask me who could have possibly given guys that advice.
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Great take! I 100% agree with the "cute guys who dont know their cute, makes him cuter". I personally love beautiful girls who dont know their beautiful.
Thank yu :3
FIRST, don't judge because im only 15.
In our discussion, as serp777 said : girls friendzone a man who is gentleman just because he hold respect for them and their rights. A douchebag, and don't try correct me, is ALWAYS an agressive dude. Agressive results to masculity. A masculinity results to attractiveness because it is incorporated as attractive to the woman's (whoever that woman is) DNA. This article also disproves your whole take: content:/.../0605113519.mhtml
Masculinity isn't only about agressiveness.
And girls don't friendzone a single and porticular type of guy. They friendzone the guy they aren't into and the guys that they don't like. You can't say guys friendzone gentlemen or nice guys or whatever because we all have our own preferences and there is always people who like nice guys and others who like douchebags. And as I said, ALL girls like gentlemen. And youu can't say I'm wrong since you're not a girl. And every girl here agreed on this.
*Girls friendzone..
I bet girls friendzone the guys that aren't tall, handsome or none that makes them horny.
But then again.. if he has a crappy personality, it's a turn off
If he has a crappy personality and is really physically attractive? don't try to deny that, there are always some dudes out there like that
Oh trust me, I know that. I have been asked out by several guys who I was attracted to but I refused to go out with them cuz when we started talking and having actual convos, they turned out to be either dumb or weird.
I still find them attractive but I don't look at them the same way.
Now if you would please stop judging females and generalising us, I would appreciate it. Cuz apparently, we're all that dumb now, are we?
I generalize because i see girls (at my suburb at least) having the same personality
Girls this age are full of crap. Especially this whole generation. So yea, you'll come across a lot of bimbos till u get to college at leasst..
"Especially this whole generation". Which generation?
Your generation. My generation. No offence
Generation 1995-1999?
No actually, generation 1998-present
Personally I don't like the "real gentlemen wear suits" stereotype because as long as you treat someone nicely, with respect etc (what you listed above" it won't matter if they wear or suit or not. It will also depend on where you are going and how old you are. Clothes you wear should in my opinion just be clothes that you feel comfortable in (which helps confidence) and they look good, regardless of whether you see everyone wearing something similar or not
I know I know.. I didn't say that wearing a suit will make u a gentleman, I said that we like men in suits. And yes, what u wear should not define the person u are.
I forgot to mention this in the post
I understand :) I agree with the points you made under "being a gentleman" (even though I thought most of them are regular common courtesy and how everyone should act but owell, I've seen those points a lot so I guess it isn't that common) I just thought I'd mention my point about fashion and whatever as the picture said "class is for men" or whatever :P
Well thanks anyway :)
I want the guy who's a gentleman, just as a result of having respect for people and not because he's trying.
I agree that confidence tends to be the problems with nice guys. Lads, insecurity isn't attractive.
(Also - generalising women! It's not just the nice guys who do this... but one self-professed "nice guy" actually kept referring to "generic women" and how they just couldn't appreciate him. Not a good sign, I don't think!)
This is actually pretty generalized towards guys too...
People have different personalities, and some people are more compatible with each other than others.
Also, at my school, the popular guys were nice, some were funny, they were all athletic, many got good grades, most were good looking, and they all got good looking girls. They fucking had it all. Which kinda messed up my perspective.
Good my take lol I especially hate the nice girls who go for the douche bags and think they can change him that is seriously the most annoying thing ever, but I do disagree when you said for gentleman he should do anything for his girl I disagree with this cause if you keep giving her what she wants she will think she can get anything out of you and she will take advantage of that niceness and treat you like a door mat. I think when she gets out of line you shouldn't be afraid to stand up to her that's one of the biggest problems men have towards women they are afraid to stand up to a hot bitch or just when their women gets out of line in a relationship we all need to draw a red line.
Lol I did not say that the man should do every single thing his girl asks him to. Men have their rights as much as we do. And they need to be respected and treated the want them to treat us. The guy should have masculinity in him, meaning he should stand up for himself when it's the case. If he just sits there and says "yes" to everything the girl tells him them that doesn't make him a man. And it would be boring anyway.
So yea, I did not mean that guys have to be robots for girls (god forbid).
*the way we want them to treat us
Oh okay good :)
36.media.tumblr.com/.../...cr2DAC1qjaqsho1_500.jpg A suit and a fedora SHOULD NOT be worn on an ever day basis, those men in the top photo with "swag" are better dressed for casual settings than the men in the bottom.
I'm not saying that suits should be worn everyday, and that it's important for a guy to be in one. I just said that guys in suits look good. Of course, in the end, the should wear what he's comfortable in.
I think she means men like this:
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Smart yet casual/well dressed.
Hell yes. @Hannah591
Those fellas are high tier male models sporting designer brands that are worth more than most people's beater cars. If that is what women want then well... About 90% of men around the world or doomed to die alone. That's an unrealistic expectation to impress upon men! @Hannah591 and @BumbleSuperBee
That was not my point. M not asking you too wear suits and ties everyday. I just said it's nice and attractive to see a guy all dressed up in a classy way (in times). Geez. Just as you guys like it when a girl is in a fancy tight dress and heels, we like it when guys are in suits.
I'm not asking anyone to dress like that. Chill. @WordSmithing
@WordSmithing Well I don't know where you live, but I live in a city and a large amount of men dress similar to the men I posted. It's not entirely necessary in dating but it's a huge plus.
I love how one of the criteria for being a douchebag is spitting on the ground. That's just so random.
awesome post, I hope all the man out there can be crystal clear what kind of guy that we want and looking for for the rest of our life, and stop thinking that all of us is chasing jerks. I totally agree only bitch attracted to jerks, so avoid attracted to bitch. good point!
So there are three types of men. Well, that summed up the mystery right there. Ironically:
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GIRLS YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOUR CHOICE IN GIRLS. THIS IS GETTING REALLY RIDICULOUS HOW PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE ALL FEMALES FIGURED OUT. NO YOU DON'T. A FEW WOMEN DO NOT EQUAL BILLIONS OF OTHER WOMEN."
My life...
Wouldn't it be easier just to be yourself and not to care about your surroundings at all. I mean who cares if someone likes you it'll just happen. You'll know when it happens because it's gut instinct. So why try so hard on something so pointless. Just go with the flow and be yourself. . . forget about classification. You are who you are.
That is a terrible mentality to have. Honestly speaking, you have to continually work to improve yourself. Don't follow your feelings because they're rarely right. People don't naturally get educated or earn money, everyone has to put effort into it -the same goes for attaining a good woman/man. You have to work for one; you work on your character and you apply effort to make it happen.
@Grosayfious255 now that's a terrible mentality to have.
If you are always working on yourself and stuff, then you will never be happy. There will always be something to fix, something to be worked on. That's a pretty cool receipt to contract unhealthy amounts of stress, and potentially illness and depression.
The best mentality I've read so far is to accept how things are right now, and accept that you will do everything you can to fix them, but it's no big deal if you can't fix them or if problems keep recurring.
First you accept things as they are, THEN you try to change them. Doing stuff the other way around will always result in a massive disaster.
You make a LOT of assumptions. How do you know that if you always work on self then you'll never be happy? I can't think of a single scenario where this is true. In fact, it's when you stop working that you become the most unhappy. The immediate example that comes to my mind is boxing. When I don't train, I get my butt kicked, when I do train... then at least I can feel like I did something about it lol.
Also, if you accept who you are than why would you attempt to change?
Eh, I agree with some points and disagree with others. You make it sound like a girl is only interested in one type of guy. Like if I don't walk around everywhere with a suit then no girl would be interested in me, which is clearly wrong. Attraction isn't a checklist. It's not you have to do this, this, and that. It's far more fluid than that.
Being a gentleman and being classy isn't about the suits. It's about the way you behave. And I think all girls agree on the fact that we wanna be treated right and with respect. Like a true gentleman does.
Then if its not about the suits, why mention it?
Because suits are nice. I didn't say it was a must on a guy.
Why not mention it?
Because it's not important.
Yes! The truth has been spoken! Nothing is sexier than a eloquent, sophisticated gentleman with class and wit. They make my panties wet.
Lol true
This take is so amazing! Thank you for your great work of sharing. All this makes so much sense.
Loved this: swag is for boys, classy is for men. hahaha :D XD :D why is this all so true?
No problem! I dunno. It just is :p
No... Just no... www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a8369-what-women-really-want-cutting-trough-the-nice-guy-alpha-male
I don't quite get what you're saying, you have a whole section on how crucial confidence is, and then go on to say that a guy not knowing he is cute/pretty is a good thing. Do you want a guy who's confident in his appearance and ability to get a girl, or a guy who doesn't realise that he's attractive?
What I meant by confidence is being able to approach a girl and keep the conversation going without being awkward or uncertain of himself. A guy who doesn't know he's cute doesn't necessarily have to think he's ugly.
She wants a guy who is unaware of how pretty/cute he is so she can have an upper hand and manipulate him in the relationship by making him think she is the best he can ever get. It's a form of sociopathic manipulation.
@Roostah I can't see how that can tie together with confidence anyway.
Wtf @Roostah
I liked your take, because I have recently realized it is true. I used to be the nice guy with envy of douchebags, but now I realized (she made me realize) the difference between nice guys and gentlemans.
Keep sharing your takes!
PS- I don't think the friendzone really exists... it's just an excuse for nice guys not to go for her.
Thanks! I'm glad u think so :) and yes, you're right about the friendzone.
Or for the "nice guys" who have given up on girls here's a new dating website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T43jQQzm0qoI know many "nice guys"(the guys she described) who get girls because they're wealthy, privileged, and can shower them with gifts. Women in our age group for the most part are closed-minded and are gold-diggers.
I don't know which women you hang around but the ones I know aren't close-minded or gold-diggers. They do have standards and know what they want in a partner. Also some people rather have a life of "oh wells" instead of "what ifs".
I believe deep down all women are gold diggers some just hide it better.
@Touglyforfemales Kind of like me saying deep down all men are pieces of shit.
Big difference us guys aren't afraid to admit that, but you guys are afraid of admitting your gold diggers.
@Touglyforfemales That's pretty pathetic. Just because you believe that you personally are a piece of shit doesn't mean all men are pieces of shit. Girls don't have to call themselves gold diggers to please one guy who has a pessimistic view on the world.
Really proof how wrong I am? You really think the majority of men care about your feelings? LOL Most are thinking about the next girl their gonna sleep with. Sound like your admitting your a gold digger?
"Prove" not "proof"
I won't waste anymore of my time responding to a self proclaimed "piece of shit".
the sort of advice in this post is exactly what leads guys into being bitter 'nice guy' virtual misogynists. I will try to remember it to refer to when I point out things 'nice guys' believe and women ask me who could have possibly given guys that advice.
I'm not a lesbian... but I wanna straight marry the girl who wrote this shit.
I accept.
Yes!