How to avoid the friend zone (Page 2)

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Well all that just makes me lose interest. It's not even a matter of me having the confidence and being direct, it's that it's expected. At no point in her scenario did the girl actually do anything, it seems like she just sat there and waited for everything to happen to her. Annoying.

[LittleSally]

But that's why I wrote - in my opinion it should be from both sides...
Right at the beginning... =)

[circlebill]

In other words, most women can't be depended on to even know their own minds!

[LittleSally]

Exactly.
I thought that was obvious...

[circlebill]

This explains a lot! Men often see obvious selfish, pushy, obnoxious men succeeding with women! It would seem that men who would disrespectfully force themselves on women are actually right for behaving that way! No wonder date rape happens so much! If men have to be so assertive and pushy to get the romance process going, where does being masculine end and rape begin? And worse, does it pay to even care?

You see, If a man treats a woman with utmost kindness and respect -- he's wrong and he gets punished with the friend zone! On the other hand, if a man disrespectfully forces himself on a woman he is often rewarded! I know women will say they want a golden miracle balance. But if the choice is kind respect or uncaring douche bag, the douche bag wins! I actually feel very sorry for women. If hormone clouded "thinking" makes their minds work this way, they cannot help but choose the worst of men! God help us all!

[LittleSally]

Okay, I was with you up until the rape thoughts.
That was just worrisome.

Your 'hormone' thing actually applies to men, not women. Women need something more than just looks and hormones to care for the guy while men are the ones whose hormones seem to be more than enough for them to know who they want to sleep with.

[circlebill]

Yet the fact remains! In many women's eyes, one man's kind respect is to be punished with friend zoning while another man's pushy, disrespectful boorishness is rewarded with love and sex! That's the end result in all this! The hormonal man is deeply affected by an attractive female form! The hormonal woman is deeply affected by pushy, assertive behavior! Physical beauty alone tells nothing about a person But pushy, assertive behavior often comes from a person who doesn't care about others (i. e. jerks, douche bags, etc.)!

[BumbleSuperBee]

Hahahaha that is soo truee!! We're confusing creatures!

[chittyadvice]

the only thing that matters is your looks man. when your good looking you dont get friend zoned. trust me. according to this video, you shouldn't be "nice"? lol well im nice to all girls and never get friend zoned. when your not good looking you have to compensate by showing some attitude/being a douche i guess

[Krillanr]

I just can't be bothered, if a girl wants to play games and such then I'm gonna lose interest quick, but I would also tell her early on that I was attracted to her.

[LittleSally]

Telling them early on is important, but also acting on it is important.
Yes, as I took it, it's not about playing games, it's about the girl figuring out if she's into the guy or not really...

[Krillanr]

It's odd though ain't it, guy and girl meet, if neither are repelled by the other then hang out and enjoy each other for a while, if it progresses then great, if not then so be it. But this sizing someone up like a piece of clothing bugs me.

[LittleSally]

I know... But the thing is - what needs to happen is something someone has to do. Ya know?
=)

[Krillanr]

I reckon I ain't got a problem there, for me it's don't be pervy, don't be too crude. XD

[LittleSally]

Yep, pretty much the point.

[CityBoy773]

First off, paused at 1:23, she makes an hilarious face.

Also, can't see why people bitch so much about being "friend-zoned". If the person you're interested is isn't interested in you, then that's all there is to it. Nothing to cry over.

[ThisAndThat]

There is no way to avoid the friendzone unless that person is interested in you as more than just a friend.

[Luvme66]

Always... use this things to stay away from friend zone...

-make eyecontact
-talk less
-ignore her
-smile at her

If you see no signs of her trying hard... just MOVE ON

[Floyd790]

So true man I've been ignoring this girl that is crushing on me and she's been smiling more and more and talking to me gonna ask her out soon.

[Luvme66]

@floyd790 good luck dude.. . I hope everything works out for you..😊

[GoodManDave]

I suppose she's fairly accurate provided the girl has some genuine interest or curiosity. I'm not so familiar with this part. The rest is a little familiar.

[TheGreenRanger]

The solution is simple: if you're interested in the girl but she's not into you, stop being a bitch and move on.

Shouldn't waste your time on someone who doesn't give a fuck about you.

The video is nonsense from a guy's perspective.

[Secret22]

My guy friend waited a year and we ended up dating for 2 years and 8 months. Not bad for getting out of the friend zone if you ask me XD

[TheGreenRanger]

Lol at the people that dislike this.

The feelings should be mutual; if not, move on people.

Congrats Secrett22. I'm glad it worked out for you.

[LittleSally]

@Secret22 yes, but your story is the exception that confirms the rule...
Better to move on then to keep on pining over someone.

[Secret22]

I don't see how my story confirms that rule at all.

[LittleSally]

The point is - every story has exceptions and your experience is the exception. Almost every other person has never had that experience but the opposite of it. He was and you were one of the lucky ones, I guess. @Secret22

(The 'exception that confirms the rule' is a saying...)

[OlderAndWiser]

She nailed it! Brilliant!

[Nathand]

its simple ignore her, be a badboy, treat her like she's a dog.

real Friends don't ignore, act rude or treat friends like a dog. Therefore she can't call you a friend and you'll be her suit and armor. Maybe even her under Armour.

[Octavius]

How to avoid the friendzone:

Actually ask them out and not just hang out with them hoping it will just turn into a relationship eventually on its own...

[chittyadvice]

that makes no difference. women know right away whether or not they are attracted to you. the are human just like you and me and buying into the notion that they dont make this snap judgement just like men do is nothing more then a perversion of biology. trust me bud, i know firsthand. when a girl likes me there is little i can do to mess things up. all i need to do is talk to them its that simple. i have friends who just aren't facially attractive and put all the blame on themselves thinking its their confidence, demeanor, etc.. its pretty sad. the truth is the average woman in modern society just has an exponentially higher amount of options in the dating marketplace so when they meet a guy who passes the looks test, some want even more like guys with status, good jobs, etc. they have the luxury of being picky.

[Octavius]

@chittyadvice I'm not sure if I should waste time rebutting your argument because your name makes me a little suspicious that you're just trying to screw with me.

[chittyadvice]

looks = attraction. end of story

[Secret22]

This video has just exposed how my mind works XD Advice worded perfectly

[LittleSally]

My thoughts exactly! O. o

[Queen_naki5]

Girls will friendZone guys while they have boyfriends and the moment they break up, they date. It's a vicious cycle. If I'm friendzoned, I'm out.

[justanothergager]

dont make your game a agreeable backbonesless nice guy whod come off like youd do free favours.

to break away, be a jerk, ruin the friendship and come back fit and well dressed with a carefree charismatic attitude

[chittyadvice]

or just be good looking..

[justanothergager]

good looking def helps. insecure girls dont like pretty guys and say its this or that. but pretty girls often have garbage entitled personalities so i get why its a turn off.

rich is more powerful than looks for a man. @chittyadvice

[chittyadvice]

not in terms of attraction is not. i never said anything about "pretty boys" i said be good looking. thor is good looking and not a pretty boy, look like that and you will have you pick of any girl you want. money can BUY you girls but it can't buy attraction

[justanothergager]

get to 25 and plus with women whos done up head to toe. they care more about looks of a man

[WhaChaChaKing]

I don't know I usually know pretty early on if I'm interested in the guy. This has only changed once and it was because he stopped acting gross and actually matured a little. Even then I knew I didn't really want to date him just wanted to have sex.

[Mesonfielde]

I wonder how common that is.

[chittyadvice]

how to avoid the friend zone: be good looking/"hot"

the only thing that matters for attraction is your looks. when your good looking you dont get friend zoned. trust me. according to this video, you shouldn't be "nice"? lol well im nice to all girls and never get friend zoned. when your not good looking you have to compensate by showing some attitude/being a douche i guess

[soberpiper]

If you can't get her in bed within 3 or 4 dates, you're a "friend" and once in that box there's no getting out..

[JustinX9]

there are some cases that the guy/girl is not into you... what you call "friendzone" can't be avoided

[HookingSwan]

This woman is just really adorable :) And so right.

[staypure]

True.. that men come to know but not immediately... takes at least 3 days... for the guyz who dont keep looks on the 1st priority in a girl

[Balcazaurus]

It all makes sense now.

I wish I knew this a year ago. ja ja