The Birth of the Player: It Ain't Pretty (Page 3)

[bananapaj]

The thing that bothers me with this is the mentality that a girl is a bitch just because she doesn't want you.

[itsallover]

Agreed, it's as if he feels he's entitled to a woman.

[ice_cat]

More people do this than you think. Girls especially usually jump to the conclusion that a guy is gay or an idiot if he's not interested to her. I would know because this has actually happened to me.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter whether she is actually a "bitch" or not. Blaming myself for rejection and improving myself is clearly not a strategy that works, so from now on, if a girl rejects me, in my mind she can't see my value and is therefore a metaphorical bitch. Pretty much everyone I know does this to some degree, "Just say that she's a bitch in your mind and move on."

I don't hate all women, relax.

[bananapaj]

I understand where you're coming from and I don't think you should blame yourself either for being rejected, maybe it isn't anyones fault and just the way things are?

[SnatchFinderGeneral]

@itsallover

"Agreed, it's as if he feels he's entitled to a woman."

Just to let you know, I'll be saying this to all the women complaining about men onthis site. Thanks for the material.

AS in:

"It's as if she feels she's entitled to a man."

[itsallover]

@SnatchFinderGeneral Sure, it does go both ways after all.

[SnatchFinderGeneral]

@itsallover then you agree with him being a player.

[Idontknowhyy93]

I understand rejection, it stings. I've been friend zoned before. It feels like you lose your dignity when you accept their "friendship" after they reject you. But this is no reason to give up entirely on the opposite sex. There is nothing wrong with telling a girl to fuck off after she rejects you. They should understand it. This doesn't mean, however, that you should become a player. There is no logic in that.

[joseyyywhales]

I feel like you're still bitter but gdjm you're on the right path

"Any girl that rejects me or flirts with me and then doesn't want to date me, is not a friend of mine. It is an insult."

Words to live by my friend

[SlightlyCrazy]

No thanks I'll take emotions
You know what humans feel

[MusicLover8098]

This is so sad. I would rather die than live without love 💔

[cth96190]

If you are decent and honourable young man, get use to a life without love.
Until they reach the age of about 30, the overwhelming majority of women want players and bad boys. Decent young men need not apply.
The women will talk at length about wanting good men. Ignore everything that they say and watch whose company they choose. In most cases, it will be the player or bad boy, whose head looks as though it should be on a wanted poster.

[Philosopher_Edge]

@cth96190 Yeah, 30 is about the age I noticed, too.

[Relentless_Hippie]

This is just as stupid as the women who say all guys are dogs and jerks.

[ice_cat]

It might be. But honestly, after evidence starts stacking up in a person's life pointing to a certain thing, it becomes sort of illogical to ignore that certain thing...

[Relentless_Hippie]

I've been rejected by guys plenty of times, I've never attributed that to men being of zero value and only being worthy of having me use them up like a napkin.

Men are human beings and nobody is perfect. If someone doesn't want me then they don't want me. Rejection is painful but it makes you value love all the more. If someone starts hating a certain group because of their own personal and minuscule experiences then that person is weak.

This reminded me of my friend who's entire family is racist. One black guy raped his cousin so now his entire family hates every single black person in existence. That makes no damn sense.

[ice_cat]

For me, if I reject a girl, she isn't good enough. There is no other reason. We either didn't get along well enough because she did something annoying or I didn't find her physically attractive (which for me is a very logical choice).

I don't hate women as a group. I didn't even say that. I'm saying that why should I subject myself to relationship rejection, when I can instead opt for sexual rejection (which is actually pretty easy and fun) and forget about the whole thing? My relationship goals aren't getting me anywhere, but my sexual goals seem to be

[Relentless_Hippie]

Well that's your choice, but who is to say those girl who rejected you don't feel the same way? You chose to remain friend with them, then that's on you.

When I was rejected by guy I didn't want to stick around in hope they'd figure out what was missing. That's why I don't believe it's possible to friend zone people. I believe people friend zone themselves. Nobody is obligated to remain friend with someone after rejection, that's just disingenuous. If I want a guy for a relationship and not a friendship and he doesn't want a relationship with me, then I understand a move on. I'm certainly not going to wallow around waiting for him, I've got plenty of friends already.

What you're choosing to do is use people, and that's not okay. Find girls that want to use you just as badly as you want to use them. But don't just go around breaking hearts simply because you've gotten yours broken. That sounds like those girls who spread HIV because one man gave it to them so all guys must get it.

[ice_cat]

As I said to other commenters here, I didn't really "stick around" these girls. We were usually forced to interact for some reason and if I had started ignoring them, it would have been making a very powerful statement.

I don't really want to use people. I want to focus on a goal that is more emotionally healthy (or so it seems). But basically that means becoming the guy that people hate, that guy that doesn't want a relationship. That wasn't me before, but it seems like a much easier way of living.

[Relentless_Hippie]

Well then you're copping out which is for the weak. Life isn't easy and emotional pain is difficult but it's not that serious. People who "change" because of heartbreak aren't really changing at all. It just took the right circumstances to bring out the scum bag that was there all along.

[ice_cat]

Well, I guess I'm releasing my inner scumbag then. Besides it was already there, waiting to escape, best not to delay that process.

[Relentless_Hippie]

By all means, just try not to get any diseases in the process.

[Gommers]

You're not a player; a player never needs to explain his entrance into the game, it's just assumed and accepted that he's aways played.

[ice_cat]

Very meta. :|

[Abe90]

Guys become players because they couldn't handle the rejection that they've experienced. So in response, they act like assholes to cover their insecurities. They don't like feeling vulnerable

[Anonymous]

"Sorry girls, if you reject me, you're a bitch."

Brother, if you think you should be hateful because someone doesn't pick you for everything you're going to have a very bitter and unhappy life.

[ice_cat]

I should have figured that people wouldn't understand what I mean when I said this. I honestly believed what you were saying before, but it causes a lot of self-esteem issues. If the girl is smart and a good person, she must have rejected me for a reason. What that reason is, is total speculation. However, the reality is that I just wasn't good enough for her.

Most people actually think the other way and really what's wrong with that? If you don't see the value of me, then honestly, yeah, you're kind of a bitch.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not even talking about her - I'm talking about what carrying around these feelings does to you. You're expending valuable emotional energy on someone you barely know.

[ice_cat]

Well that's where you're wrong. Most rejections that really hurt me were by girls I knew well and where the rejection just didn't make logical sense at all. I don't care at all about being rejected by someone I don't know. It happens all the time. I get rejected on Tinder like 10 times a day.

[Nik1hil]

Men and emotions don't settle in a box!.. Don't write them in a take

[ice_cat]

You may have to clarify your opinion a little bit... I think I understand what you're saying but barely

[Popo21]

You sound like a little bitch with a pussy. Quit crying and go work on yourself as a person.. love yourself. Find some hobbies. Become successful and the right woman wil come.
Quit whining about how you always get rejected, everyone does. It's life. Boo hoo.
Stop pitying yourself, your attitude seems ugly as hell... and just fucking girls is going to emotionally fuck you over even more.

[ice_cat]

My personality cannot possibly be as ugly and vulgar as your English.

Let me get this perfectly straight... I'm a "little bitch" with a "pussy" ? Don't YOU have one of those? And yet you probably have no problem calling men misogynists while the only one who hates pussies is you.

That, however, is besides the point. You have assumed, without reason, that I have no hobbies and am not successful. Whether you believe me or not, both of those points are not true. Ultimately, your comment does not provide any useful information to this discussion and is even more hateful and unproductive than this take will ever be.

[Popo21]

Lmao just stop feeling sorry for yourself.

[ice_cat]

Firstly, I can feel sorry for myself if I choose to.

Secondly, that statement in and of itself provides very little actually usable information.

Thirdly, I don't feel sorry for myself. I feel some FRUSTRATION with how a great deal of effort goes completely unappreciated, sure. But I think anyone would. I really highly doubt that you could empathize with those feelings, but you don't have to. I don't pity myself, I'm making an informed decision based on patterns I have observed.

[Popo21]

You're picking the wrong girls.

[Jeffrey_archer]

ur actually handsome #nohomo, when i read this mytake i was like, there would be some nerdy looking fag, dunno whats wrong with u

[ice_cat]

That's right Jeffrey, and it makes me feel even worse about myself. Most girls say I'm actually more attractive in person than my pictures (sorry for sounding like an arrogant prick right now) but it hasn't stopped them from rejecting me. Just a little frustrated right now is all, not really sure why I wrote this take to be honest

[Dingsbums]

Well have a nice life but that's the result of always being too nice

[CancerianMan81]

you know it's funny how the hypocrites are always point out other peoples mistakes but they never find faults in their own

[Iamweasel]

Why do women say they hate players yet they date/fuk them all the time.

Lol @ a women's logic. Just lol.

[Anonymous]

A player is a guy who figured out that marriage will always result in the man losing a lot of money. Basically a sensible, mature and logical man.

[DisastrousQu33n]

Congratulations on being the most pathetic guy I've seen on gag all day!

[ice_cat]

Thanks I guess.

[Nik1hil]

😂😂Poor lad got whipped by a sexy!.. Queen

[ice_cat]

@Nik1hil What?

[DisastrousQu33n]

@Nik1hil fucking right 😘

[ice_cat]

Calling someone pathetic is hardly an intellectual feat. I just hope both of you realize that.

[Truthatanycost]

@Nik1hil What are you? her cheerleader?

[Nik1hil]

@Truthatanycost maybe I am!.. Her cheerleader... Why, are you jealous? Maybe you didn't read 'pathetic guy ALL DAY' it's a very small limit of time she is referring too!.. So funny that he could digest her attitude!..
Honestly I don't even know this sexy spicy quesadilla... But she sure as hell does look delicious!.. 😍

[ice_cat]

@Nik1hil I'm not gonna lie, you sound like a monster creep bro. But that's besides the point. You and that "Quesadilla" (WTH?) should realize that you aren't contributing anything useful to the discussion except for a very simplistic personal attack and not much else. Literally ANYONE with a computer and keyboard can type "ur pathetic."

[Nik1hil]

Wow you got really butthurt!.. It's pointless..
Besides I thought she was funny, until now!.. Now I think she was right...

[lazermazer]

I don't know, i am and will be player until n unless i fall for someone. No comments needed.

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry you feel that way.
I know what giving up is like cause I have a problem with no friends other than online

[SuitAndTie1986]

Cool story bro!!!

[ice_cat]

Even if this is sarcastic, thanks!